上位 200 件のコメント全て表示する 406

[–]surosregimeFiscal Conservative 392ポイント393ポイント  (94子コメント)

I'm not a fan of the_Donald but man, reddit is terrible at this.

[–]BedWedOrBehead [スコア非表示]  (59子コメント)

That's the thing. If the CEO goes around personally fucking with people, he needs to go. Faith cannot fully be restored, but canning someone with such poor judgment would go an awfully long way.

[–]tjcastle [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

what's up with reddit and appointing shitty CEOs lmao. Pao and then this?

[–]BedWedOrBehead [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I would guess it's because it's a money pit.

[–]inno_func [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I guess it's because ceo positions attract sociopaths.

[–]BedWedOrBehead [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That's not how they found him though. He was a co-founder of the site right out of college. They didn't so much hire him because he was a typical CEO, but because he had deep history here.

[–]inno_func [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm not talking about him specifically, but about the position being a magnet for people who craves power and most of them are sociopaths.

[–]BedWedOrBehead [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh my friend, that's not merely your opinion, that's pretty well supported by countless studies. Here's just one study on it.

[–]skunimatrix [スコア非表示]  (46子コメント)

Anyone whose comments was edit need to be in a Federal courthouse Friday morning with a defamation lawsuit against Reddit and spez personally. He has committed libel.

[–]something45723 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Aren't they committing it against him by calling him a pedo, if what he said is true? I wouldn't like people falsely accusing me of that either.

[–]nGBeast [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

You shouldn't be giving out legal advice, because you're wrong about libel, maybe pay more attention in school instead of on reddit?

[–]skunimatrix [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

lawyer hat on Edit: I hate reddit formatting....

Defamation has to have 5 parts with a 6th criteria for public figures. Those are:

  1. A person has to make a statement -in this case a written post on Reddit
  2. Statement has to be published - It was published on the internet, maybe you can make a case it doesn't count, but one of the posts was published by a news organization.
  3. The statement caused you injury - this might would be the only case where it would be hard to argue, but the fact it was reported you said things that you did not say, but was edited by a Reddit Admin & CEO to say. A lot would depend on Jury pool.
  4. The Statement was False - The statement given to the press was false because the person writing it did not write those words. His statement was edited and altered by spez.
  5. The Statement was not privileged - it was posted on a publicly accessible web forum

Now the special case beyond that is about public figures, but I'm going to assume the person behind the post would be considered a private individual so those rules wouldn't apply.

I did pay attention in law school enough to pass the Bar in Missouri and Illinois...

[–]Reth_R [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Oh come on man. Yes he is a prat and deserves to be removed from his position but libel is a bit far, just take it down a notch.

[–]UnicornOfDesire [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Fuckin reddit lawyers coming out of the woodwork

[–]BedWedOrBehead [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

That's a case that could create serious precedent. I bet they could crowdfund it too.

[–]w0o0t [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Then you should read what they say in their internal chat, which was just leaked:

http://archive.is/ZmULb

Edit: Full version of the log

[–]Zee_WeeWee [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The slant is terrifying...it's literally you get in line with us or you will be dealt with

[–]YorkHenderson [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

The weirdest fucking thing is reading how these people who run the site interact with each other.

Make love to spez, sensually

[–]noeffeks [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You mean they interact largely the same way that most people on reddit interact? Its the internet, and that discussion is a filled with born and raised internet citizens. Nothing weird going on there, really.

[–]Taylor814Jibrish 67ポイント68ポイント  (17子コメント)

Spez edited a the_donald user's post to make it look like they were criticizing me instead of him.

[–]surosregimeFiscal Conservative 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah, I know. Shouldn't be leading this site.

[–]wolfman1911Boehner thinks I'm the Devil[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Weren't people saying this guy was pretty all right when he took over? Or was he only okay compared to Pao?

[–]EuroTrash69 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He is one of the founders of reddit, so there was hope he would be better than pao. Some people have decided he isn't.

[–]TheHaleStorm [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is worse than anything that Chairman Pao ever pulled.

What is to be done?

[–]kainoasmith [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I won't do it again

oh I guess that makes it ok then

[–]inthemiddleofthenite 903ポイント904ポイント  (109子コメント)

It does get old getting called a pedophile constantly.

Funny, I feel the same about always being called racist or sexist anytime I try to disagree with someone on the left.

[–]EMPEROR_TRUMP_2016 346ポイント347ポイント  (14子コメント)

No see that's different.

Conservatives are supposed to be insulted, because they aren't liberals. But liberals are liberals, so you're not supposed to insult them.

Understand? :^)

[–]Onlyusemifeet 74ポイント75ポイント  (10子コメント)

Painfully yes..... It's a sad world we live in. Hopefully with Trump it will get better for us.

[–]EMPEROR_TRUMP_2016 43ポイント44ポイント  (8子コメント)

I've just learned to live with it. In all honesty, I think the double standard and years of insults has made me a better person. Or at least a stronger one.

I look at the university students- people near my age- that needed play doh and coloring books to deal with Trump's win, I look at their cry ins, their safe spaces, their need for trigger warnings, and I'm glad I wasn't coddled, I'm glad I wasn't given a trophies for losing.

I don't give a shit what anyone calls me or says to me, someone insulting me won't cause me to emotionally break down. People can call me a filthy kike, or make holocaust jokes, they're only words. If Hillary had won I would've have been bummed, but I would've went about November 9th like any other day.

I know there's an ideal middle ground, but if I had to choose between constant verbal abuse and a thick skin, or a life time of coddling and the inability to function in the real world, I'd choose the abuse every single time.

Basically, I guess what I'm trying to say is there is a silver lining. I think there is a benefit that we on the right gain from the pathetic double standard.

[–]Onlyusemifeet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm so glad that I go to college in a kinda red state, that doesn't allow safe spaces on their campus. (At least none that I know of) Also glad that a lot of my colleagues are with my political stances. The double standard is still there for me, with all the hypocrisy the left throws at me. What I wish could happen is for all of the left to do five minutes of research, and they will find out that libertarian views are unrealistic, and won't work. But I also accept that people have different views than me...

[–]Capt_ShitNuts 59ポイント60ポイント  (9子コメント)

don't forget xenophobe, literally hitler, cis,

[–]BreaksFull [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

It'd be nice to see both sides stop writing off the other as racist hicks and hippy welfare queens and try and understand one another perspectives, then work from there.

[–]DangerDamage [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I really don't think it's possible, conservatives and liberals have differing fundamental ideologies.

Conservatives approach an issue like this, at least how I do - I have an issue with something. What can I do to fix that issue? Do I need to work harder, do I need to put more effort in?

Real world example - I'm not fortunate and don't have a lot of money. I would try to find a job, work as best as I could, and go from there, and create opportunities for myself.

Liberals see a problem and go - How can I mitigate the issue and make it easier to deal with? How can I make it more bearable?

Real world example similar to the previous one: Instead of going out and working for yourself, you'd probably head off to a homeless shelter and wait for opportunity to knock at the door. Maybe you'll take up a job at the local mcdonalds, work what you need to, and hope for a promotion.

I'm obviously letting my bias cloud my judgement, but fundamentally I just see too big of a disconnected between solutions and reality for both parties. To conservatives, racism isn't a thing we should worry about. Liberals think institutional racism, sexism, and transphobia are very much alive and thriving. If we were to propose an equal opportunity solution, the conservatives would most likely say, "Look for the person with most experience" and the liberal side would probably say, "Give more weight to minority candidates for a position".

[–]noeffeks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Speaking as a former liberal I think you have it sort of right, but definitely some bias:

Conservatives - How can I make me and my families lives better?

Liberals - How can we make everyone's lives better?

Both are honorable and just endeavors. The problem arises in the fact that; fundamentally, the only thing one can make better is their own and their families life. Personal agency is like that, and it shouldn't be my job to try and make everyone happy and better, that is their own responsibility. And often, when using the government to legislate peoples lives to be better, no matter how altruistic, tramples on the liberty of the individual.

[–]apathetictransience [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

That happens literally every time? Where do you live?

[–]longshot [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Seriously, who has this problem?

[–]VonVoltaire [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Being a millennial with millennial peers in the city. My favorite is when they call me racist and privileged until I tell them that I am mixed and half my family are legal immigrants and they either retract or apologize because identity politics.

[–]sammythemc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You can't even write racial abuse in excrement on someone's car without the politically correct brigade breathing down your neck

[–]BobbyMcFrayson [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

Every time you disagree? Or maybe sometimes you say something overtly sexist or racist...?

[–]madisonfootball99 [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

Some girls at my school got arrested for going up to kids with Trump apparel and yelling at them. Called them klan members, racists, mysogonists, etc. just because they supported a candidate.

[–]CaptainJesi [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

because some girls at your school represent the entire left, regardless of who is on whose side, we can't keep pointing fingers at each other like this. The right does it just as much as the left, that has been this entire election. We're all Americans and we really need to start acting like it. Too much extremism from both sides, it's stupid.

[–]hockeyfan1133 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Where are the videos of Trump supporters beating people? Where are the riots caused by Trump supporters?

[–]dmb1993 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Aw poor baby... Like that ever fucking happens to you lmao. Even if it did you can be a big boy, you'll be fine.

Edit: Didn't mean be so aggressive, I just can't imagine being called any of those things and it actually affecting me since I know I'm not racist or sexist. Everyone isn't like me though, sorry for being aggressive (leaving original comment so edit makes sense).

[–]inthemiddleofthenite [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Happens quite a bit in fact. Typically from people just like yourself.

Why are you in this sub again? I'm assuming it has something to do with your imaginary sense of being smarter than everyone else.

[–]Tyler_Vakarian [スコア非表示]  (20子コメント)

Spez is a Trump supporter, so bringing up Liberals when talking about him is weird.

[–]Phalanx341 [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

How do you know. This is the dumbest thing I've heard, he posted he was voting for Trump as a joke in a thread. He also posted that he's voting for Hillary in the same thread.

[–]Tyler_Vakarian [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

He admitted he was a Trump supporter in a private moderator group, and it got leaked.

[–]Baxterftw [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

Ok source?

[–]bubby963 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thats obviously a fucking joke. How can you be so retarded. Have you never said to your mates "Youre gonna be so mad when you find out Im actually XX" when obviously you arent XX, its just a joke. Fucking hell you liberals really lack critical thinking skills.

[–]Tyler_Vakarian [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

K.

[–]WizOfTime [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I think that's a joke. He's joked about supporting Trump and Hillaru before.

[–]ColonelCluster [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Meh, that's weak tea. He's "joked" about supporting both Hillary and Trump in other threads.

[–]Leandover [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

anyone who seriously thinks that is a declaration of support must be an idiot.

it looks more like a sarcastic joke

[–]Baxterftw [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Don't give a pissy little k. You should've sourced from the beginning

[–]Tyler_Vakarian [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

My post will get downvoted into oblivion around here whether I use sources or not. Might as well save myself the effort to be honest.

[–]10gauge[S] 213ポイント214ポイント  (54子コメント)

This is bad, people. Think about what this means and can be done to any of us on Reddit. An administrator can change any comment we make...to make it say anything they want. A huge precedent was just set by the CEO of Reddit.

[–]candid_canidConstitutionalist 110ポイント111ポイント  (25子コメント)

Imagine a presidential AMA.

"Mr. Trump, I've heard that you're going to begin deporting American citizens. Is this true?"

"No, I am absolutely not going to do that."

Obviously a simplified example but the ramifications of this are serious.

Reddit no longer has any official credibility.

[–]whoisthismilfhere [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

When did Reddit ever have official credibility? When people can make posts anonymously it has to be assumed that there is 0 credibility.

[–]hasapoint [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, this all started when Jeff Bezos' blog linked to the very same thread that Spez threw his temper tantrum in. Like it or not, the larger world does occasionally care what happens on this site.

[–]biggestballz [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Trumps smart enough to stay off this site. Im betting no future president will ever be doing an AMA on here again. IF reddit is relevant in 4-8 years.

[–]candid_canidConstitutionalist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

no future president will ever be doing an AMA on here again

Sure as shit not after this debacle.

[–]neckbrecker2000 [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

If you can edit your own comments (ninja edits are an even better demonstration) and mods can remove them what did people think the admins had the power to do? A few bits of text are not hard to overwrite.

[–]BedWedOrBehead [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It wasn't about whether it was technically possible, but if they'd actually do it. I'm sure they have the ability to do basically anything, but since he's shown such terrible judgment, they need to remove him.

[–]Valkonn [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

CEO's aren't supposed to have database access. The CEO of Paypal can't look up user information on a whim, the architecture is set up to prevent that.

It looks especially bad on /u/spez because his reasons for this breach in security are childish.

[–]Goose306 [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Editing comments =/= database access, at all.

He had an elevated (admin) profile, just like any other admin. It's not terribly far off from a moderator profile found in traditional forum websites.

[–]im_not_a_girl [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

I'm not an expert but I read a comment in the r/technology thread that pretty convincingly explained something like this would require database access, due to the complete lack of any sort of trail

[–]Goose306 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

As a programmer myself, not at all, actually.

It all depends on how the forum (reddit, in this case) is set up. You don't need to track who edits/deletes/etc a comment, in-fact from a programmer perspective that is more work than not doing any of that sort at all. In most cases it's seen as a desirable option for accountability so it's programmed in, but that doesn't mean any sort of database access is necessary.

In fact, in most cases edits to a db have pretty heavy user tracking from the perspective of the app you are using to r/w the db, as dbs are heavily reliant on consistency of data (and as such you want to track any manual changes). In any case you can probably override this tracking, that being said it seems a lot of unnecessary hoops when you can just add a tracker-less mode to the admin forum/reddit profile.

[–]Leandover [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

does reddit allow mods to edit user comments? do said user comments have an edit trail? if no for either question, the chances are he did this via the db.

[–]learner1314 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

For one, the edited comments by Spez didn't have an asterisk, as is the norm.

[–]drtoszi [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

We know a few of those edits were done without any marking though (the * mark).

That means they can make it look like a totally legit post and 'you' can't do anything about it.

[–]slapmytwinkie 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

They could have done this in the past too. This is just the only known time they have. I think this shows the admins are incapable of reasonably handling subs/users/posts/comments with opposing viewpoints.

[–]fuck_sal_hardPool Boy 42ポイント43ポイント  (19子コメント)

yes, but its for the "good of the community" so we should all celebrate this! All hail /u/spez!!

[–]10gauge[S] 48ポイント49ポイント  (18子コメント)

Let's say an administrator doesn't like something you post...then changes it...and puts CP in your history...and then notifies the FBI.

[–]diehardgiraffeMei the Wall be with you 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

But our benevolent overlords would never do something like that! They're the most fair and unbiased people to have ever lived!

[–]TheXarath 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a shame Hillary didn't get elected and lock up those pesky conservatives and ban their bigoted "free speech" All hail /u/spez!

[–]j_aubrey [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Pro tip: put tons of CP in your history to beat them at their own game!!

[–]monster_mi 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

The FBI would not be a real problem. An online post would not hold up in court even without admins. You could always claim your account was compromised.

The bigger danger is ruining your online reputation. Employers and even potential mates will do online searches for you and if they stumble on your Reddit history they will take it at face value and never believe that some admin had it in for you.

[–]Meatpuppy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The problem with that now is what they admitted to doing.

[–]Rommel79Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

In all honesty, how do we know that they didn't do this to /u/violentacrez and force him to take the fall?

[–]PlausibleBadAdvice [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Truthfully? We don't. And nothing the admins can provide will prove otherwise.

[–]whoisthismilfhere [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You know there are a lot of armchair lawyers and programmers and CEO's in this thread spouting a bunch of bullshit... but what you just said is pretty goddamn scary.

[–]JackBond1234 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Honestly this is true of any privately run website. If you're saying this shatters our trust in the leadership of reddit, then you're absolutely right. Though, I think we should never get/have gotten so trusting as to believe this couldn't happen.

[–]chalbersma [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

This is definitely not the only time this has happened.

[–]hasapoint [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's just the first time it was done en masse in a sub with 20k+ users online at the time.

[–]BobbyT486 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I know weed, and weed don't make you do that, wtf is he on.

[–]S0ckHeaven 28ポイント29ポイント  (57子コメント)

What is pizzagate??

[–]Rommel79Conservative 47ポイント48ポイント  (17子コメント)

A potential child porn/sex ring with some very powerful people.

[–]Hunnyhelp [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Didn't Britain have a thing much like this?

[–]Rommel79Conservative [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

If what the weaponized autists are saying is true, it's all connected.

I really, really hope it isn't true, though.

[–]Hunnyhelp [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

What if "pedophile rings" are all connected, just the investigators don't have the ability to look into the full extent of these people's internet history

[–]_Mellex_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What if "pedophile rings" are all connected, just the investigators don't have the ability to look into the full extent of these people's internet history

Someone notify the Danish.

[–]strike_one [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The logos, combined with the posts made by people connected with the businesses, make a pretty convincing case.

[–]poppymelt [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

There is no question there is one of these in Hollywood. Now the pizza gate is finding proof about one being linked to top government officials in DC, it could possibly be the same one as Hollywood or something entirely different. It might not even be linked to the pizza emails but it without a doubt exists.

[–]redartist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

To people Hollywood ring is tin foil hat, watch this short interview with a guy who was a somewhat famous child actor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roW238dfUUk

[–]MeatPickles [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

How idiotic can you be to believe that shit? You expect me to believe some of the most powerful people in the world are all in on some cp ring and got caught because le reddit detectives matched a triangle in some logos and child porn=cheese pizza. Come the fuck on...

[–]jaysalos [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

No leaked emails, still from an unknown source, show people connected to the campaign talking in a very odd code that involves lots of food. What exactly they are talking about I do not know but it wasn't some 15 year old drawing a triangle on the pyramid on the dollar bill and saying illuminati.

[–]hasapoint [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The pizza place in question had a photo on their public Instagram account of a little girl duct-taped to a table. Arms, legs (spread, of course) and mouth. Fully clothed, thank Christ.

If that's the sort of shit they post in public, I seriously don't want to know what they do in private (but I want the FBI to know).

[–]poppymelt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not just the emails, it's connecting the dots from everything. There have been small amounts of evidence of this existing in DC and we know there is a major ring in Hollywood.

[–]StabbyDMcStabberson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It actually started with the Podesta email leaks.

[–]mrstickball 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

Its a topic that's been banned and nuked from orbit. Originated on 4Chan from people combing the Podesta E-mails that WikiLeaks dropped. The allegation is that there's a very large child sex ring that involves the Clintons and a lot of other people.

Not sure if its substantiated or not, but its very, very scary stuff. Like the Jeremy Saville stuff, but still on-going and involving a lot of people.

[–]Arkansan13 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Even if that aspect of things isn't true Podesta is still a weird motherfucker into some weird stuff.

[–]TheXarath [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

It's technically a conspiracy theory but there was some weird ass emails in the Podesta emails which seemed very odd and almost like coded language, which some believed was language related to pedophilia. While I'm not totally on board with it, it wasn't the weirdest conspiracy theory. Their subreddit was shut down for doxxing, but I don't know who they were actually doxxing, and I doubt it was widespread because nearly everyone involved was a public figure.

[–]atomic1fireReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I find it a bit odd that not even brietbart has covered pizzagate, otherwise I would assume Brietbart/Limbaugh/Levin/Drudge/etc would have jumped on it, so I'm not sure there's as much to the story as people say there is.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if the pizzagate story was an intentional leak to discredit internet activists. I mean the fake news angle coming out right as a group of people on the internet are convinced about a secret pedophile ring. That sounds like a much better false flag to me IMO.

If pizzagate has some truth to it, I imagine we'll hear about it eventually because nobody keeps something horrible that secret for that long.

I think some of the arguments made for pizzagate are a bit of a stretch, for instance the dude claiming the place is a den of rapists sounds more like an angry neighbor grumping that the place wants to serve alcohol and play live music. I'm not saying that there isn't a secret pedophile ring, but that there has to be actual witnesses and police reports before it's considered a tangible crime.

I think the Clinton foundation stuff is and always has been the much better place to implicate Clinton in a crime. Pizzagate seems like a wildgoose chase.

If it turns out everything was factual, then I guess my gut feeling about this was completely off, but I kinda don't see anyone specifically from the conservative media taking pizzagate seriously so I'm inclined to think there's nothing really there. I think the spez editing is certainly a story. The clinton foundation is seedy, but pizzagate just seems like a stretch.

[–]Zeabos [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

They were doxxing the pizza place and its employees.

[–]DicklePill [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

How exactly do you dox a public company lol. If it's all available online and public information it's not doxing.

[–]10gauge[S] 39ポイント40ポイント  (14子コメント)

Google it. It's sick. Apparently pedophilia amongst Washington elites and uber wealthy. Most of that information has been scrubbed from reddit by the admins.

[–]diehardgiraffeMei the Wall be with you 28ポイント29ポイント  (12子コメント)

Nah, didn't you hear it was Fake™ News™?

[–]praxulus [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

This is the kind of evidence they're using: https://i.sli.mg/7hr0h9.jpg

This isn't even fake news, this is good old fashioned conspiracy theory bullshit.

[–]testdex [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Conspiracy shit that makes 9-11 truthers look like James Randi.

They're so certain that they're onto something that they think a grandmother who is bringing her grandkids to a picnic is offering them as sex slaves because she said their attendance at the picnic would be some "further entertainment."

edit: I've tried reading a bit to figure out what the hell these people are talking about, and I haven't yet seen anything else (or anyone suggesting the existence of anything else) connecting this woman and her kids with the imaginary pizza-related international child sex ring. She just happens to be in Podesta's leaked emails, so she and her kids have their names circulating with these accusations.

[–]Winter_Aspen [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You're an idiot. Either there's a pedo sex ring, or its a sick inside joke they've been into for years where they pretend there's a pedo sex ring. The number of bizarre things that point to it is in the multiple-dozens; it has long passed the point of coincidence.

[–]_Mellex_ [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I believe the "entertainment" comment had to do with the kids being in the pool.

[–]testdex [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Here's the quoted text:

"We plan to heat the pool, so a swim is a possibility. [Name] will be Uber Service to transport [Name], [Name], and [Name] (11, 9, and almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in that pool for sure."

This is a grandmother writing about her grandkids in an email inviting a list of people to bring their families and enjoy the pool.

edit: I really am at a loss. I can't help but feel that most of the people who've been upvoting/ downvoting on those conspiracy people's behalf don't think it's true, they just want to hurt people they think are corrupt (and their families and children).

[–]Brand0nLee [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

ITS THE DAMN REDDIT CEO ARE U KIDDING ME. I smell a RECKONING

[–]JackBond1234 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I feel for him, I really do. The subs he's been dealing with have a high ratio of vapid little shits who would get any reasonable person seething. Plus this guy is human and makes mistakes.

BUT, this is not acceptable behavior from someone in his position with this kind of authority. Mistake or not, anyone else caught doing the same thing would lose their job, and I think for the sake of relations with the users, he too needs to step down or be removed.

[–]timmyjj2 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yet he allows r/politics and the CtR paid takeover of large swathes of political discourse during the general election.

[–][deleted] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ok what the hell /u/spez !? Up till now I thought all the crap was just more T_D BS. Now you flaunt that it is true in front of the whole world. I even kind of liked you and trusted you. What the shit man. Goodbye reddit! I am leaving now, this is the bale of straw that broke this camel's back.

[–]mrMANNAGER [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And this is on the sub because...

[–]ColonelCluster [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is just despicable and /u/spez is a disgusting human being.

I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and I like to kiss my own butt.

[–]turndriverside [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

What does this have to do with the conservative subreddit?

[–]10gauge[S] [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

This has to do with every sub on Reddit. What spez just did undermines the integrity of reddit and the confidence of every user. What if you posted something that an administrator doesn't like...so they change it...and then they go deep into your history and put CP in your history...and then notify the FBI of your disgusting activities...hypothetical? Yes. Possible? Spez just proved it.

[–]Internetallstar [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

You guys are taking this "they'll frame you and call the feds" stuff a little too far don't you think?

It was an edited Reddit post for crying out loud. You mean to tell me one of your buddies couldn't do the same type of crap if you left your phone laying around? It's a social media post, not a forged confession letter.

Edit: I figured I'd take a look at the TOS

Please note the part about "derivative works". I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure that means they have the right to alter anything you submit to Reddit's servers.

your content

You retain the rights to your copyrighted content or information that you submit to reddit ("user content") except as described below.

By submitting user content to reddit, you grant us a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, unrestricted, worldwide license to reproduce, prepare derivative works, distribute copies, perform, or publicly display your user content in any medium and for any purpose, including commercial purposes, and to authorize others to do so.

You agree that you have the right to submit anything you post, and that your user content does not violate the copyright, trademark, trade secret or any other personal or proprietary right of any other party.

Please take a look at reddit’s privacy policy for an explanation of how we may use or share information submitted by you or collected from you.

[–]bubby963 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Reddit posts have been used in court cases. A bit ago a man in the UK got fined for a racist reddit post. The whole fiasco with /u/stonetear involves reddit posts used as court evidence. Fuck, I got in trouble back at university because some dickhead stored all my controversial reddit posts and sent them to the uni (got nothing but a slap on the wrist and he was royally pissed though).

The thing is reddit posts have been used aa court evidence before, and now there is an actual ppausible deniability over you being the poster.

[–]el-y0y0s [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The value and credibility of such reddit evidence has now just taken a serious nosedive.

[–]Internetallstar [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

There was deniability beforehand too.

"Your honor, I was hacked by Russians"

"Your honor, I left my phone at the bus stop"

I'm not trying to bust balls here but seriously, the TOS are pretty clear that Reddit owns the content you generate and they can manipulate it anyway they see fit once you post it. I think spez did a dumb thing but if you had any expectation of privacy or ownership of your words once they're posted then you have been making some bad assumptions on how this site operates.

[–]kainoasmith [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

This is the first time in reddit's 11 year history that an admin edited someone's post to show something different than what they said. This is the first time we have ever had to seriously consider what it means for someone else to control not whether we can say something but exactly what we say. They can do anything they want to any of us and frame any user on reddit.

[–]hasapoint [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What about the part in the TOS where it says impersonating someone is a bannable offense? Spez did a whole lot of that today.

[–]Winter_Aspen [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Potentially awful secret pedo lives of politicians and the CEO of reddit taking retaliatory actions against the users investigating it?

You are aware this is the conservative politics board on reddit, yes?

[–]benisuber [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

The reaction to this seems like a huge overreaction and a bunch of fear mongering - not unlike revent media coverage of Trump.

[–]CATHOLIC_EXTREMIST [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

I didn't know the admins could do this. Has anyone ever been convicted based on evidence found on Reddit?

[–]praxulus [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I mean, it's their website. It's impossible to operate a website that you yourself can't freely edit. We just have to trust that the admins won't do so surreptitiously.

They lost a lot of people's trust by doing this, but given the triviality of the actual changes he made and that he owned up to it, I can't say I'm all that concerned.

[–]CATHOLIC_EXTREMIST [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

But like if I said if they're willing to edit comments over something so trivial then what will happen when there's something more serious?

[–]praxulus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I don't know what it's like inside /u/spez's head, so I can only speculate here. Editing a comment to say something the user didn't say is bad, but there's a huge difference between doing it as a prank and doing it to influence real-world events or the opinions of many. To me at least, the fact that he's willing to play a prank doesn't necessarily indicate that he's willing to use his power in more impactful ways.

[–]MEOWmix_SWAG [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

/u/stonetear. He was Hillary's IT guy who asked people for advice on how to delete some emails. He's on trial now IIRC.

[–]JackBond1234 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yes. It's perfectly fine if the CEO of a large company feels comfortable with falsifying records just because he felt vindictive at the time.

[–]The_Chroniclers [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Falsifying records?... what an over characterization.

While there can be some serious discussion on this site, Reddit is a glorified Internet forum. This site is predominantly full of cute animal photos and funny videos.

[–]threemileallan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The Donald needs to go. What a cesspool. Honestly reddit should ban that sub. It's a dark place that grows hate

[–]KattheImpaler8 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Christ you guys its a fucking meme website and you're crying about muh free speech, calm down, this isn't real life, its the fucking internet, christ

[–]bitterjealousangry [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Doesn't the_donald ban anyone who disagrees with their point of view. Maybe Reddit should have just instantly banned anyone who said fuck u/spez and called him a pedophile.
Only when we are equal can we truly understand each other.