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[–]jchoyt 2375ポイント2376ポイント  (679子コメント)

He did it to the Washington Post during the election. He continues to do exactly what he said and showed he'd do. He continues to be temperamentally and morally unqualified.

[–]KingsleyZissou[S] 1350ポイント1351ポイント  (568子コメント)

I'm honestly not even focused on his temperament at this point. What he is doing is purposeful and SCARY. He is attempting to control the media. That is dictator level shit, and he hasn't even assumed the office yet.

[–]jchoyt 839ポイント840ポイント  (182子コメント)

So's everything he's doing. Thin skinned - no one can say anything bad about him. Enrichment of himself and his family. Valuing loyalty above competence. Expecting things to be true just because he says them. It's all dictator-level shit. I said from the beginning of his run that he's going to try to run the government like it's a corporation that he alone controls and it just won't work that way. He's gonna get royally pissed and start trying to fire people who dare to stand up to him and that won't work either. It's going to be a shit show. Assuming he doesn't do something so blatantly criminal the electors choose to not elect him, this only ends in two ways - impeachment and forcible removal from office, or he's a dictator for life. He's simply not smart enough to have it end any other way.

[–]Dragonsandman 294ポイント295ポイント  (154子コメント)

or he's a dictator for life

I wouldn't be so sure about it. Trump may want that, but I seriously doubt anyone in Washington or the military would stand for that.

[–]GoodTeletubby 378ポイント379ポイント  (93子コメント)

Or rather, if he tried to enforce that, he'd get his wish, but he'd discover that 'for life' is a highly variable term.

[–]W00ster 85ポイント86ポイント  (40子コメント)

Or rather, if he tried to enforce that, he'd get his wish, but he'd discover that 'for life' is a highly variable term.

Many people who end up as dictators often end up being so for the rest of their lives. It is a deadly occupation with a not so nice transition between being dictator and being dead.

[–]redbaron1019 86ポイント87ポイント  (36子コメント)

I would bet my job that if Trump even attempted to retain power if/when he loses next election, he would be forcibly removed and imprisoned, or killed by a government agent or random person.

Say what you will about American's being complacent about certain things, but I don't think we, as a country, would let that shit pass.

Edit: Double negative nonsense

[–]W00ster 44ポイント45ポイント  (11子コメント)

Say what you will about American's being complacent about certain things, but I don't think we, as a country, would let that shit pass.

After electing Trump, I'm really not so sure!

[–]cuttups 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

I hope we don't have to find out if that is true or not.

[–]Seakawn 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wouldn't at all mind finding out if it's true that Trump would get assassinated if he tried to stay in office longer than is legal.

Does that make me a bad person?

[–]kazneus 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

He's modeling his power grab after Putin's power grab in post-solviet democratic Russia. The question is if America will countenance a dictator before he can cement his stranglehold

[–]Zeerover- 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Think you have that a bit wrong. Trump isn't Putin, Trump is Yeltsin.

The Russians believe that Yeltsin was installed by the US and ruined their country. He came along, smashed the legacy of the previous, progressive leader (Gorbachev), broke up a superpower and it's sphere of influence, and mostly didn't want to run the country, but rather socialize and fraternize in his new presidential role. Now they have returned the favor and given the US their own version of that.

Whoever will be the US version of Putin is still undecided, but Pence is someone with a similar role - Putin was Yeltsin's last Prime Minister.

[–]Memetic1 48ポイント49ポイント  (43子コメント)

My parents keep reminding me that part of the secret services job is dealing with this exact scenario. My concern is what happens if he surrounds himself with a private security force. If that happens we will know we are in seriously deep shit.

[–]TheReasonableMensch 65ポイント66ポイント  (14子コメント)

part of the secret services job is dealing with this exact scenario

Uh......really?

[–]AccessTheMainframe 49ポイント50ポイント  (1子コメント)

Prolly just got the Secret Service mixed up with the Praetorian Guard. Easy mistake with all the nepotism and corruption going on in the US government right now.

[–]koolaidface 21ポイント22ポイント  (6子コメント)

I would love a source on this. I can't find anything with a quick google search.

[–]ragingdeltoid 54ポイント55ポイント  (2子コメント)

His parents bro

[–]chicol1090 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

his parents are in the secret service

source: my parents told me

[–]Minotaurzombie 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a random stranger telling you outrageous things. Why don't you believe him?!

[–]ElBomberoLoco 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

My concern is what happens if he surrounds himself with a private security force.

I don't think he's allowed to do that. I know there's things he's allowed to do, but we don't like....but surely there are things he's not allowed to do.

[–]AnAverageWang 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the president gets to appoint the head of the secret service. If he appointed someone who was "in on it" I guess he'd be able to hand select and control the inner workings of the service. I don't think any of us know enough about the agency to figure out how a president would work around to get his own men appointed to his detail. Whether it's bribing the head of the s.s or installing his own security team I think we'd need a lawyer familiar with those issues to tell us if it would be possible and how.

[–]daggah 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trumplethinskin clearly doesn't give two shits about what he is and isn't allowed to do...

[–]twerkinwithcoffee 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you saying the secret service is charged with assassinating the president if the president tries to become a dictator? I can't find any information backing that up in any sense of the word. They have two jobs, investigate financial crimes associated with the government and protect a host of people including the President and Vice President. Why would anyone give them the authority to literally overthrow the government?

[–]obstruct_GOP 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

Your parents think that part of the SS job is to conduct a coup? That's wildly false.

I mean, who makes that call? And do they have protocols as to how it's done?

None of that is even remotely true.

[–]Counterkulture 91ポイント92ポイント  (50子コメント)

75% of the military voted for him. That number is probably way higher when you go up the ladder in chain-of-command. I think repeating over and over again that the military would NEVER be behind him if he crossed certain 'red lines' in behavior is a little bit of a pipe dream. And I personally don't think it's true.

I think it's good to be pragmatic, and to also recognize that if the shit really goes off the rails, a LOT of people in the military and government would be okay with it (even if support came in the form of just not speaking up or standing on the sidelines sitting on their hands).

[–]RedditConsciousness 72ポイント73ポイント  (7子コメント)

One of the most infuriating things I hear (from right wingers and sometimes just moderates who don't know better) is how the GOP is better for veterans. It is the exact opposite, the right has been cutting veterans benefits for decades.

[–]TurloIsOK 29ポイント30ポイント  (3子コメント)

They really do prefer disposable military personnel. They concentrate on big ticket weapon systems as jobs programs for constituents, while cutting costs on protective gear and restricting veteran care. The military is just a prop for their photo ops.

[–]AliBabasCamel 35ポイント36ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Conservatives want live babies so they can grow up to be dead soldiers"

[–]ManBearScientist 105ポイント106ポイント  (9子コメント)

No, the upper levels of the military trend more toward Gary Johnson and Clinton. The lower levels are predominantly white, uneducated men which is literally the Donald Trump demographic and he'll win virtually any subgroup of that group. Officers and up generally are educated, and while still leaning heavily Republican are more demographically favorable to other parties.

[–]AccessTheMainframe 35ポイント36ポイント  (3子コメント)

They're literally the Old Guard, mostly NeverTrump Republicans.

There's few Democrats in the US officer corp because Democrats tend to leave for other occupations after doing their mandatory service.

[–]Fgame 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually only know 2 people with military ties that made it known they were voting for Trump. One is my ex- father in law who has voted a straight R ticket since he was 18, and the other one didn't pass basic. Every other active military person I'm friends with has at least denounced Trump if not supporting Johnson or Clinton, and that's across the Army, Marines, and Navy. If we were to go by profession, I'd say that police/EMS/firefighters were almost 100% Trump around here.

[–]Dragonsandman 28ポイント29ポイント  (23子コメント)

I still don't think Trump is going to try to become a dictator. Voting for someone doesn't necessarily mean you support every single action someone takes. I think worrying about a Trump dictatorship is completely paranoid.

[–]eksyneet 65ポイント66ポイント  (10子コメント)

i'm Russian, and this is the exact same thing people used to say about Putin. until dictatorship, slowly but surely, crept up on us.

[–]Counterkulture 46ポイント47ポイント  (6子コメント)

Maybe, maybe not. What do you think would happen on the right, and among the base of the GOP, etc.. if another terrorist attack on the level of 9/11 happened, though?

Just take the way we treat muslims in the US, for one narrow example. Do you think the right's reaction would be to remain calm, composed and sober... or would they go batshit and throw all ethics out the window to go after EVERY muslim in this country with reckless abandon?

[–]killer_kiki 46ポイント47ポイント  (5子コメント)

Recent conversation:

When my husband said, "there is no way they would do a straight-up muslim registry. The electorate wouldn't allow it." I said, "think about right after any real or perceived 'terrorist' threat or event in the US. THAT's when it would happen. That's when interment camps happen." He was like, "no.... that wouldn't.... I mean people wouldn't be that..." and I said, " we elected Donald Trump."

[–]samus12345 39ポイント40ポイント  (1子コメント)

And we've done internment camps before.

[–]ruckover 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a Trump team member reminded us the other day, they'd totally "never" do that, but... "there is precedent."

[–]bouncylitics 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know how any one can say the words "there is no way they would" with a straight face anymore. There is no way trump would be elected, and that happened. Nothing is out of bounds anymore.

[–]not_even_once_okay 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

When Trump won the primary, I told my boyfriend "He won't be elected. I mean, Americans are crazy, but we're not THAT crazy."

I can only believe the worst from now on.

[–]IamaRead 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

impeachment and forcible removal from office

So an extremely right wing evangelical Vice President Pence will reign with the Trifecta of Congress, House and White House for (2-)4 or even 6-8 years.

[–]-4-8-15-16-23-42- 161ポイント162ポイント  (66子コメント)

He can deny interviews, but he can't suppress the NY Times. If anything denying interviews is just going to encourage sources like the NYT to scrutinize him, and calling it "failing" is only going to encourage them and his opponents to read it. Subscriptions are up since the election. He can control who he talks to and who he gives information to, but that's as far as his control will go. Information will still come out and the media can still research, criticize, and publish.

[–]DreadWolfByTheEar 85ポイント86ポイント  (17子コメント)

The issue is a bit bigger though. He's talked openly about hand picking which media outlets will be in his press pool and by making public statements about "biased" mainstream media he is discrediting major news services. If he continues to discredit mainstream news and controls which outlets cover him, he will effectively control what information is widely available and what isn't. Mainstream news sources can continue investigative reporting but they will likely have a reduced audience. This isn't suppression / censorship of the press via legislation but the press can effectively be silenced using these tactics.

[–]TheReasonableMensch 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, they are a little less failing now that they've got my subscription. I hope more people fund the free press.

[–]wonderful_wonton 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

Subscriptions are up since the election.

So true. I'm subscribed to the national dailies Washington Post and NY Times right now, whereas I never was before. (The Wall Street Journal's coverage of politics this year has been derivative and passive, so it's not worth subscribing.) The LA Times has been moving up on my reading list, almost like a national daily, too.

[–]dohaeris 42ポイント43ポイント  (36子コメント)

Yeah basically everything he's said is dictator level shit. Sadly a bunch of people seem to think this is a good thing.

[–]Defences 60ポイント61ポイント  (22子コメント)

"BUT HE TELLS IT HOW IT IS!!! THIS IS WHAT WE NEEDED TO SAVE WESTERN CIVILIZATION!" Its funny because you will genuinely see these comments from his supporters

[–]wonderful_wonton 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Except that backfired when, even from a distance, David Farhenthold ripped him a new one from his Washington Post series. The alternative to covering him in person is digging through his records, and god knows that's a gold mine.

[–]thevaginapirate 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. That's what real journalists do. They dig through it. The mainstream TV media is a bunch of fluff tho.

[–]windowrain 590ポイント591ポイント  (162子コメント)

At this point, there are so many people shitting on legitimate fact oriented newspapers that people are simply not going to care even if he puts those people in jail(he can't, but just imagining if he can). At this point, he's seen as some champion who has broken "the establishment" and nyt, wapo, huffpo are all seen merely as "librul shills". Many who voted against Trump think so. The divide is getting bigger by the day, he's making use of it. My bet is that he won't use @potus account much. He'll keep whining on Twitter to divert attention. Soon he'll increase tax cuts for the rich so much behind the smoke screen that we'll not even know when it happened till it hits our everyday lives hard

[–]rightsidedown 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

huffpo is no where near nyt or wapo. I'm a lefty and even I think huffpo is a librul shill

[–]jchoyt 142ポイント143ポイント  (84子コメント)

there are so many people shitting on legitimate fact oriented newspapers that people are simply not going to care even if he puts those people in jail(he can't, but just imagining if he can)

Really? Who's going to stop him? He controls the military and DHS and is putting puppets in all positions of power. The courts may not let it stand, but he could do it. Many of his followers - 'cause let's call the cult what it is - would celebrate it.

[–]KingsleyZissou[S] 103ポイント104ポイント  (21子コメント)

Absolutely right. Just look at what he has gotten away with already, and his supporters are as fanatical as ever. The truth doesn't matter anymore.

[–]Robot_Warrior 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

well and now that the head of Breitbart is on Trump's team, we are going to get what is essentially state-sponsored "news" site that will be lapped up by the people of Trumpistan

[–]row_guy 61ポイント62ポイント  (43子コメント)

Thats not how the military works. They swear allegiance to the Constitution which protects the press. Not the man or his office.

[–]jchoyt 69ポイント70ポイント  (29子コメント)

I'd love to believe you. "All new generals", remember?

[–]MuffinDiver 67ポイント68ポイント  (15子コメント)

You can't just sprout a general out of the ground. Gen Mattis was in the military for 40 years, he hopefully has allegiance to the US and not the cheeto.

[–]jchoyt 42ポイント43ポイント  (11子コメント)

Actually, you can. There's a shitton of O5s running around right now that would love a promotion.

[–]The_Town_ 13ポイント14ポイント  (12子コメント)

Based upon the people I know that serve, I'd find it very hard to believe the average soldier is going to be okay with a government takeover of the press.

[–]refracture 133ポイント134ポイント  (12子コメント)

Please don't lump HuffPo in with the NYT and the WaPo. It de-legitimizes your argument. HuffPo *is* a liberal shill website. It's as left leaning as Fox News is right leaning.

The NYT and WaPo are bipartisan.

[–]inkrat 52ポイント53ポイント  (2子コメント)

FYI, HuffPost is a news blog site. ANYONE can write for them. Andrew Breitbart even did for a time.

[–]PlayMp1 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Andrew Breitbart was nothing like what his site became. He was just a typical asshole conservative, the new Breitbart is neo-Nazism for kids.

[–]rndmusr 50ポイント51ポイント  (43子コメント)

National Defense Authorization Act section 1021/1022. He can legally detain and torture anyone...including US citizens.

[–]windowrain 17ポイント18ポイント  (39子コメント)

I..um.. did not know about that.

[–]BobTagab 42ポイント43ポイント  (12子コメント)

He left out the somewhat critical part of how in order for someone to be detained they had to have

been a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.

Also, the act doesn't give any authority at all to torture anybody. Section 1021 essentially says "you can detain anybody waging war against the US". Section 1022 says those persons detained through section 1021 outside the United States, except for US citizens, are to be kept in military custody.

Edit: Also, I should add that section 1033 of the 2013 NDAA specifically states that no US citizen or resident alien can be detained under section 1021 without charge or trial in the United States.

[–]cooldito 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

You do realize there were a lot of innocent people held and tortured at Guantanamo, right?

[–]BrainSturgeon 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

Occupy Wallstreet was considered a terrorist group. Is not inconceivable that a protest group gets categorized as hostile.

This the one of the progressives' biggest criticisms of Obama - signing the NDAA.

[–]SP4CEM4N_SPIFF 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is there an article that defines 'hostilities' and 'United States'?

[–]BobTagab 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hostilities is defined in 10 U.S. Code § 948a - Definitions, and is considered "any conflict subject to the laws of war."

The United States is defined in 18 U.S. Code § 5 - United States defined, and is "all places and waters, continental or insular, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, except the Canal Zone."

[–]rndmusr 49ポイント50ポイント  (12子コメント)

nal Defense Authorization Act section 1021/1022. He can legally detain and torture anyone...including US citizens.

Thanks Obama

[–]SirSoliloquy 39ポイント40ポイント  (7子コメント)

Gotta love that all the extended executive powers the government has been giving itself for the past decades is now passing to Trump.

This is why you don't do that, people.

[–]Counterkulture 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, that's the thinking error a lot of people had when some of this stuff started coming out about Obama... including me. Thinking 'Well, I mean, yeah, it doesn't look good... but Obama is a good person, so why should we worry?'

And then five or six years later someone like Trump gets elected and installs a bunch of backwards nazis in his cabinet, and that thought-process isn't looking so hot, all of a sudden, eh?

[–]ApprovalNet 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

"the establishment" and nyt, wapo, huffpo

Wait, did you just try to sneak HuffPo into the establishment media category?

[–]Bl00perTr00per 325ポイント326ポイント  (39子コメント)

And now if we go over to /r/the_donald we will see them mosh pitting in their swamp of stupidity about how great this is.

[–]jesus_sold_weed 54ポイント55ポイント  (5子コメント)

That is some fantastic imagery. Awesome post

[–]kinggambitben 37ポイント38ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's hilarious they want to be taken seriously but all they do is TYPE IN ALLCAPS and post memes. It's the biggest circlejerk subreddit I've ever seen. I've browsed through it a couple times and it honestly sounds like a bunch of edgy-wannabe middle schoolers and uneducated racists and conspiracy theorists.

I still remember reading about the_donald redditors arguing with each other on how Jews ran the media and that's why media is evil and anti-trump. It's a complete laugh to see how hopeless those the_donald people are.

[–]AThilgers 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

Has the Donald been deleted? Or set to private? Nothing is showing up for me.

[–]CedarCabPark 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah. They're still kicking. Same old gullible folks who care more about memes than any actual discussion. Can't lose a debate if you call them a cuck and throw a meme at them, am I right?

Solid plan that won't look absurdly stupid in hindsight. Not at all.

[–]Merari01 104ポイント105ポイント  (25子コメント)

This is why I say that calling him a fascist is not hyperbole and it's not a slur. He literally ran on a fascist platform and he continues to act in a fascist manner.

Controlling the media and attempting to discredit and/ or outlaw any and all criticism of the regime is a typical fascist trait.

[–]lalilulelo09 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

People think fascism is tight knit, sterile and pragmatic cause of nazi imagery. They forget just how ridiculous Mussolini was.

[–]VulpineTacoI voted! 342ポイント343ポイント  (48子コメント)

Anyone remember the Nixon Tapes?

I can't wait for the Trump Tapes. They'll be even worse.

[–]cajonero 214ポイント215ポイント  (11子コメント)

The emails, though! They're bigger than Watergate!

[–]thinly_veiled_alt 75ポイント76ポイント  (6子コメント)

#TrumpTapes was the hashtag for the "grab them by the pussy" video. You'll have to come up with a new name.

[–]Gunnulf 35ポイント36ポイント  (3子コメント)

You wanna put a backslash before the # if you want it to show up and not make your text over-sized.

[–]44problemscustom flair 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOUD NOISES

[–]Crazy_Mastermind 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! I've been making this mistake so many times.

#thankyou

[–]robotevil 89ポイント90ポイント  (19子コメント)

He'll just blame the liberal media. He's done much worse already and hillbillies still voted him in.

[–]mclamb 394ポイント395ポイント  (49子コメント)

Being around the press 24/7 is his job, does he really not know this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_press_corps

https://www.youtube.com/user/whitehouse/videos

[–]spottybottycustom flair 198ポイント199ポイント  (22子コメント)

That was the job of the President, yes. Now his job is to get trade deals which benefit his personal businesses, while sometimes hanging out at the White House and inviting world leaders to chat with him and his daughter.

Just like what he did this time last year. Just with a different job title and a bit more influence.

Trump didn't change career - he just got a promotion.

[–]mclamb 34ポイント35ポイント  (13子コメント)

What does the United States and the American citizens get in return?

[–]Nygmus 117ポイント118ポイント  (3子コメント)

What do a lot of people who work with Donald Trump get in return?

Screwed.

[–]spottybottycustom flair 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

A lesson on the meaning of "Caveat Emptor", I think?

(real definition, for those who might wonder, is "let the buyer beware" - they knew what they voted for, they got it.)

[–]Grobulox 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The American public learning a lesson.

Oh man i needed that laugh

[–]tridentgum 29ポイント30ポイント  (7子コメント)

Why is his daughter in all these meetings anyway? What the hell has she actually done?

[–]TheoryOfSomething 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

She's a brand, like her father. She has her own jewelry and fashion lines. And she's some kind of executive real-estate manager in her father's company, but from the outside it's impossible to say exactly what she does.

The somewhat concerning aspect is that she will continue to run aspects of her father's business after being a part of all these meetings. That's a significant conflict of interest, and a play to convert the knowledge, contacts, and/or prestige gained into a business advantage.

[–]wbgraphic 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump's been buying her dinner for years and she still won't put out, so he's had to step up his game.

[–]talones 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I honestly am scared for my friends in WHCA (White House Communications Agency). They are tasked with archiving anything and everything that trump says. Not sure if he will let them stay.

[–]iamsofired 204ポイント205ポイント  (55子コメント)

Even the_donald must be getting embarassed about the countries first safe space president

[–]Dudeofallteenages 257ポイント258ポイント  (33子コメント)

Nah, they drank the kool-aid. Nothing that man could ever do would turn them against him.

[–]KommanderKitten 68ポイント69ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or you just wouldn't know about because A. the mods will delete the post and ban you or B. they won't even post about it at all.

[–]Doonce 98ポイント99ポイント  (19子コメント)

The NYT are probably some based cucks that got BTFO. That ABSOLUTE MADMAN.

[–]obstruct_GOP 9ポイント10ポイント  (11子コメント)

At least one good thing about the orange turd being elected is the coming of the end of times, which means I won't ever have to come across Trump supporters saying things like 'cuck' anymore.

To recap, I'd rather everyone I know and love die than to deal with Trump supporters in any way. That's how terrible they are.

[–]Belostoma 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

He could do an AMA on the_donald and call them all 'cucks' and they would swoon about how right he is.

[–]nomad80 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

[–]ChiefMasterGuru 52ポイント53ポイント  (4子コメント)

'I wonder that because almost all of trump tweets mean something. Yeah, he likes to banter, but tweets like the one about the Hamilton show which were designed to represent a parody of an SJW argument only to allow Pence to come out and explain that he doesn't mind because freedom of speech show that some of his tweets are constructed for different hidden messages.'

lol

[–]brocahantas 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just when you think the mental gymnastics can't get even wilder.

[–]nomad80 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cocaine is a helluva drug

[–]Wingsofabutterfly 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nah, I got banned this morning for asking if they were embarrassed. Apparently he's "slaying" the biased meeting with his "shitposting". It's super cringe worthy over there- they literally just delete every comment and ban you for posting. It's a real safe space.

[–]spaceboy7a 251ポイント252ポイント  (34子コメント)

He's very thin skinned. That combined with his ego and now with presidential power is what scares me to death.

[–]KingsleyZissou[S] 136ポイント137ポイント  (24子コメント)

He's not thin-skinned. He knows what he's doing. It's a power play to control the press. He's trying to discredit any press outlet that criticizes him. That is so far outside the realm of acceptable presidential conduct. This is BAD.

[–]Robot_Warrior 103ポイント104ポイント  (7子コメント)

He's not thin-skinned. He knows what he's doing.

meh, disagree. He sure as hell seems like he's freaking out and over reacting. It's part of his schtick, sure, but I think all evidence points to this being a result of his personality, not any sort of intentional ploy

[–]PopeGregoryIX 28ポイント29ポイント  (4子コメント)

Exactly, you only have to look through his twitter history to see that he's been doing exactly the same thing since long before he started running for president.

[–]heebiejeebies_ferret 41ポイント42ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's not thin-skinned.

I totally disagree. Just yesterday he just complained to NBC News that the picture they're using of him makes him look ugly, and he seems to get upset and offended about any criticism, however valid. Instead of retreating or crying or talking it out or brushing it off, his response of choice when he (rightly or wrongly) feels attacked is to lash out angrily and call people names. Thick-skinned (or normal-skinned) leaders don't do that.

[–]Zelcron 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you guys not remember the debates? He could barely stand being politely reminded not to interrupt.

[–]LiquidSnape 51ポイント52ポイント  (10子コメント)

A lot of the press is complacent in this too, this is going to get really bad

[–]sassafrasAtree 47ポイント48ポイント  (2子コメント)

Had to turn off Morning Joe this morning, which should be renamed to Morning Blowjob. They were carrying water this morning so hard, and saying Obama did the same thing. Trump is going to be an existential threat to out democracy... if we let him (and that is what scares me the most).

[–]Robot_Warrior 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

oh for sure. The media, even mainstream media, are no strangers to combative coverage. If Trump and his minions thought it was bad now, just wait till these media outlets start running hit pieces on him.

[–]tuna_safe_dolphin 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

He is a total dbag. With SNL for example, he could just have a sense of humor about it. The mock every president, that's what they do, they tell jokes.

[–]Scarlet_Isotopes 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is textbook facism. The only way to fight this is for every national paper and media outlet to double-down on criticizing his administration. Smash his agenda with non-stop facts.

[–]SwingingHumanzee 79ポイント80ポイント  (8子コメント)

Canadian here. Our last PM,Mr. Harper did this too - one day just banished the press from parliament, gave them no access. Then he muzzled all scientists working for the government. Then he began destroying information compiled by these scientists. Then he ended the census. A man with no accountability to the people can do dangerous things. Beware.

[–]Another_Alex 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is that why so many Canadians were so ridiculously happy about the census? I remember the news reports about it, it was pretty awesome.

[–]Mixster_M 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because some of them saw it as wasteful government spending and failed to realize its use in appropriating government funds and tracking important trends in the population.

[–]aaraujo1973 303ポイント304ポイント  (28子コメント)

FASCISM has come to the White House

[–]diyorgasms 102ポイント103ポイント  (16子コメント)

BASH

[–]virgil2600 102ポイント103ポイント  (15子コメント)

THE

[–]Mouthtuom 132ポイント133ポイント  (15子コメント)

Lets just call it what it is, he is a spineless coward. The sooner the press realizes this and stops treating him with honor and respect, the sooner they can get to the business of crushing him.

[–]j_la 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

ITT: visitors from r/the_safespace who conveniently forget how much they shat on Clinton for dodging tough questions from the press. When is Trump going to have a press conference, hm?

[–]ffwriter 113ポイント114ポイント  (28子コメント)

Liberals, now is the time to buy a NYT subscription. Washington Post too. Click their ads (don't spam click, but do click when something does seem kinda interesting). Add their homepage to your bookmarks. Share their articles on social media regardless if it gets likes or not.

[–]Belostoma 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

Subscribe, but don't click their ads unless you're actually interested in buying the thing being advertised.

A bunch of sympathy clicks will only reduce the conversion rate of those ads and piss off their advertisers. That's not good for the content provider in the long term.

[–]Humes-Bread 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Already subscribed. Did so during his campaign when he was playing hard ball with the press. Subscribed to the Guardian too.

[–]Demelzoid 35ポイント36ポイント  (8子コメント)

Honestly, it seemed pretty fascist that he was demanding actors to apologize to Mike Pence to begin with, now this. This presidency is just a farce.

[–]ThaRealMe 33ポイント34ポイント  (3子コメント)

The man-child whining continues.

I though baby bush was going to hang onto the title of worst-president-ever, but looks like trump will give an honest effort of taking the title away.

[–]mirkwood11 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

But guys, it's the NYT that is "salty"

[–]nomad80 38ポイント39ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's hilarious how t_d is calling him god emperor for actually committing the very act cowardice they accused Hillary of

[–]MeatofaLegJoint 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's important to remember t_d dumbasses don't operate on any kind of rational basis, nor do they have any inherent moral or ethical code.

Most of us look at our politicians and see them as people who are somewhere near what we value. Liberals got pissed at Obama and conservatives at Bush in those old halcyon days because they would go against the tenets that earned them support in the first place. Even Bernie and Ron Paul supporters became less enthusiastic when their guys went against what they championed earlier.

Not so with the God Emperor.

In TrumpLand, The Don is the flawless leader of the people. If he attacks someone, by the very act of him attacking them it tells his sycophants that the someone in question is in the wrong. If someone attacks him, they must be destroyed. If he tells them something is good, they know it means it's the best there is. There is no code, no anchor points, no solidified codex of what their politics are. It's, quite literally, the worst possible cult of personality.

See, when the media attacks someone else, it's calling them out for their crimes. When the media attacks Trump, it's because they're corrupt. If someone else asks for a safe space, it's because they're weak. If he asks for a safe space, it's because he's fending off shameless attackers (see above). There is literally nothing this man could do to lose their support because he's made it so they believe any decision he makes is the right one.

I'd put down money the man could suddenly 180 on every single policy, give amnesty to aliens and put Clinton on the SCOTUS, and a significant chunk of them would actually start smugly gloating to all the liberals that they were right and Trump was willing to reach across the aisle and do the things the left wanted to see happen. It wouldn't matter that it ran 100% counter to everything he promised he'd do and that it violated his own dubious platforms from the campaign season.

In TrumpLand, Trump is all that matters.

[–]JanetYellensFuckboyI voted! 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think that's hilarious at all. That's pretty God damn far from hilarious.

[–]Spiderkite 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a weak, pathetic man.

[–]the_xboxkiller 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is who was chosen for your president? God fucking dammit, he's such a fucking baby!!

[–]encdr11 36ポイント37ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is when you're a 70-year-old man-child. Pay attention! This control of the press will be the default operative strategy for the next four years.

[–]Saltysweetcake 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Trying to steal attention away from the recent Trump U/IRS scandal...

[–]sewsnap 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

The irony of this man is astonishing. It's like he doesn't realize he's going to be treated like he treated Obama.

[–]zeldaisaprude 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a whiny little bitch.

Looks like I Triggered the trumptards. Way to hide behind downvotes. Hahaha fucking pussies.

[–]Fist2nuts 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thin skinned trump

[–]Duke28 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Donald "The Spineless Bitch" Trump.

[–]Lethophobia 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

He is meeting with The Times in an hour. Hope they tell him to take a hike. Free press is extremely important to a free society. We have a president-elect who admits he doesn't read. God help us all.

[–]geak78 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

Does anyone have a compilation of anti Obama newspapers or other headlines?

[–]Robot_Warrior 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

sure Breitbart.com , just scroll back a few pages

[–]MeatofaLegJoint 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anti-Obama articles and headlines? JFC man, they were everywhere over the years. Even left-leaning sites bitched about him over tons of issues. If we tried to compile them all we'd have to do is look up Obamacare (right hated it because socialist, left hated it because it's a gimme to insurance companies), or the whole drone thing in Pakistan.

[–]ShitFacedSteve 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's ok, Trump needs a safe space to function. Give him space, guys.

[–]thatpj 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

So Kellyanne didn't change his diaper this morning?

[–]NotBrendan 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Donald "Pussy" Trump

[–]Carlgt816 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a piece of shit. Crybaby

[–]Thangleby_Slapdiback 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL. Who is going to stop him? He can do what he wants at this point. He is the brick that was thrown through the establishment window and any screaming there is about him is music to the ears of his supporters.

He doesn't have to face any consequences for another two years - and even then, given the electoral map, the consequences are not great.

Best thing to do at this point is abuse him at every opportunity. Don't become indignant. Laugh at him. To his face. Make up fake Trump sites. Make him the butt of a million jokes. He will go off of the rails.

Combine that with a "filibuster everything" mindset in the Senate and we have a great shot at 2020.

Get mad and he wins.

[–]tomgabriele 65ポイント66ポイント  (19子コメント)

if they criticize him, they can't interview him

I don't think that's what he is saying. The exaggeration and outrage over things like this dilutes the actual concerns - so when you bring up actual big issues, people think you are continuing to spin and exaggerate.

[–]TheoryOfSomething 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's going to be a very difficult few years as critics, because we have to be EXTREMELY precise so that we don't lose credibility. It's already happened too many times.

For example, Steve Bannon has absolutely enabled white nationalist and misogynist circles as editor of Breitbart. He allowed a lot of stories to be published that fed the flames of hate, including contributing to the 'birther' movement, despite the site's official stance that the President was born in Hawaii. That doesn't mean Bannon himself is necessarily a white supremacist or that Breitbart officially supported 'birtherism.' They're engaged in a kind of disingenuous two-step where to critics they can always point to how they hedged or 'just reported' on something without saying it was true, while at the same time co-opting this hate to draw in support and revenue with their headlines and insinuations. And that's bad enough; there's no need to exaggerate.

[–]nostempore 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

threatening access to get more favorable treatment. these are the actions of a petty third world dictator, not the president of the united states.

[–]sonofturbo 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I came to this sub to make a post about this. Looks like im too late.

[–]fletchindr 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

it would have been ok for a celebrity, he just has no idea how to be a politician at all

[–]YourFairyGodmother 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” - Teddy Fucking Roosevelt

[–]asilvermtzion 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Smoke and mirrors, people. Keep your eye on the ball. He's dumb, but not that dumb...

He throws out ridiculous shit like this to keep us distracted, keep our minds off other things, to make it seem he's dumber than he actually is while his real focus is on more nefarious pursuits. Oh, I'm sure he wouldn't mind NYT and SNL and the rest of the media to only say nice things about him, but he also understands that they're presenting him with a method of distraction for those who can only consume so much Trump BS in any given time period.

Problem is, he just got himself elected to one of the most scrutinized positions there is, and only has a couple of tricks like this up his sleeves... So it's all gonna come falling down sooner or later.

[–]Smurf_reddit 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. This is NOT ok.

It's definitely NOT OK. There are things that are okay. And this is not one of those things.

This is NOT OK.

[–]toadtruck 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is going to start shutting down subreddits before his time is up.

[–]cantdothatrly 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone who is not banned from The_donald please post this under some of their retarded title : "MAGA CUCK CUK NYT IS BULLYING ME CUCK CUCK"

[–]Vepanion 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's done it before. When an investigative journalist revealed that Trumps Casinos were about to go tits up (he was completely correct by the way), Trump sent the newspaper a letter, demanding the journalist be fired or else he'd sue them and use his publicity to tear them down. They did fire the journalist, so Donald knows this kind of thing works for him.

[–]03fusc8 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

All presidents have done this to one or more news outlets at some point. Nothing new or even newsworthy here.

[–]JohnBagley33 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a whiny little bitch.

[–]jokersleuth 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Donald "The Dictator" J. Trump.

Way to go.

[–]1337m00nm4n 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never gonna get over that one tweet that was like "Sorry I can't see all the trump tweets you guys are talking about, because I'm blocked by the fucking president of the united states."

[–]GiddyUp18 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

Just playing devil's advocate here, but where was the outrage when the Obama administration essentially shut out Fox News in 2009, pretty much the same thing that's going on with Trump and the NYT now?

On 9/20/09, Obama appeared on every major news program to talk about the ACA, except Fox News, as a snub for their perceived unfair coverage of the president's proposed healthcare law.

In late September of the same year, White House officials referred to Fox News as ,"Not a news network," in an effort to undermine their credibility. Within a few days of that incident, Fox News was excluded from an interview with Ken Feinberg.

It was reported by the LA Times in November 2009 that the White House was reaching out to Democratic consultants, telling them not to appear on Fox News.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think Trump fighting with the NY Times is any better than what Obama did. I think Obama was wrong then and Trump is wrong now. But there was no outrage from anyone when Obama did it, which clearly shows a double standard at play. Anybody trying to justify Obama's actions with, "Well, it was okay when he did it because...," or "This is much worse because...," is clearly being hypocritical.

Also, try to keep in mind that the world didn't end and we didn't lose our first amendment rights when Obama snubbed Fox News, and the same is going to be true this time with Trump and the NYT. Feel free to continue your overreaction though.

[–]fru87 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here in Argentina, our last president Cristina Kirchner, didn't give any interviews during her 2 presidential mandates. Never a good sign.

[–]guiltyas-sin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good fucking Christ. This is the new leader of our country? It's like having your 5 year old take the wheel. Fuck me.

[–]Rab_Legend 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a fucking child of a person.

[–]PM_ME_YOURE_LASAGNA 22ポイント23ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't get it, he shouldn't be able to refuse an interview? That seems ridiculous to me

[–]Moneysubs 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

This whole post is ridiculous. OP is getting in a tizzy because the President elect WAS going to give an interview to a paper that openly criticises him but didn't because of their actions.

Apparently if a newspaper outlet invites you to interview and you refuse THAT IS NOT OK.

[–]cparen 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Media is biased", biases media more.