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AnsweredWhat on earth is pizzagate? (self.OutOfTheLoop)

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Now, I've been seeing references to pizzagate and /r/pizzagate all over reddit, and I'm still not sure what the hell is going on.

From what I can gather it's about some kind of investigation into a pedophile ring surrounding a pizza chain and some Clinton supporters or something?

I'm actually still not sure if it's satire or not...

If not, I'd like a concise explanation which outlines the facts (what people have found, what people are claiming), and please try to stay neutral politically...

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[–]MadMan2012 31ポイント32ポイント  (19子コメント)

I'm fairly uninformed beyond what I have read in other OotL threads, but it seems to be an accusation of child sex slavery attached to Hillary Clinton with no real evidence.

[–]dirtrox44 13ポイント14ポイント  (14子コメント)

Dude... have you seen the extremely creepy pictures of children and pedo symbolism? I clicked the link without doing any background reading and my gut feeling is that something is not quite right...

[–]MadMan2012 20ポイント21ポイント  (12子コメント)

I did and found the evidence just as convincing as the evidence that we've never been to the moon.

[–]dirtrox44 8ポイント9ポイント  (11子コメント)

So you think those pictures were CGI and are not real?

[–]MadMan2012 19ポイント20ポイント  (10子コメント)

no, just taken out of context and having very thin circumstantial evidence applied to them. There are no photo's that show illegal activity, just supposed "codes". Bring forward some actual evidence of a crime and I will reconsider, but at the moment there is no evidence of a crime only speculation of one.

[–]dirtrox44 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

Regardless if the photos provide indisputable evidence of illegal activity, the creepiness they exude is very real. Whatever the details are and how exactly the alleged pedophilia ring operates still needs further investigation.

[–]obihansolo 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

Post-truth

[–]Penisgang 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, the fact of the matter is the whole thing is very disturbing before you even get into accusations.

[–]whitedeer27 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now if only authorities could touch the untouachables.

[–]an0nym00se619 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Creepiness = very real. Right, you have convinced me 100%.

Do yourself a favour apply some logic and reasoning to your comments before posting.

[–]DontYouDareGoHollow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Browse some of the top stories of this week, there are a few good compilations of the hard-facts sub-speculation, as well as some very interesting happenings including the death ("suicide") of Monica Peterson, someone who was well known to be investigating the Clinton's involvement into this issue. I'm a firm believer that something is going on, however, I still laugh at some of the connections that are attempting to be made over in r/pizzagate. There's a lot of caps lock going on, a lot of 4Chan lingo, and a lot of complete bull, but the core of the discussion is undeniably on to something serious.

[–]an0nym00se619 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit, contact the FBI, Dirtrox44 has a "gut feeling".

[–]Claress 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The links to Hillary Clinton are pretty weak, but something definitely smells fucky about this whole thing

[–]nightwilllastforever 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

with no real evidence

rofl

[–]GDeservesABetterTeam 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

no real evidence

obvious shill

[–]Viraus2 28ポイント29ポイント  (11子コメント)

It's definitely not satire, but it is a conspiracy theory. You're likely to get two answers on this, depending on where you look:

a) Pizzagate is really scary when you put together all of these clues that people have found

b) It's tinfoil hat conspiracy nonsense designed to smear Clinton

I don't know which one is more accurate, since I'm just some random redditor who does not know the details of Hillary's personal life.

Honestly, /r/pizzagate is probably the best source of information on it.

[–]alcoholictrashpanda 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

Are these clues in the league of Bella and the Bulldogs cuckoldry conspiracy?

Or in the Alex Jones "THEY'RE TURNING FROGS GAY" league?

[–]Doldenberg 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well here they concluded that Clinton must be a cannibal because reasons. So yes, that kind of league.

[–]Artiemes 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

They called her a necromancer and satanism as well. Straight up dark ages.

[–]JordanSmellfort 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow these guys are retards.

[–]WeaselurDAY LAY MAY MAY -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Judging just by the image it lines up with a lot of things. Whether or not it's true.

[–]Viraus2 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

It doesn't really depend on wacky science or anything, but it does depend on a lot of anonymous posts on the internet

[–]Indigoh 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't stand that "It's a conspiracy theory" is often enough of an argument to dismiss them. If you have enough power, that behavior could allow you to do anything you wanted as long as it's strange enough.

[–]archnihilist 6ポイント7ポイント  (89子コメント)

Cult symbology + pedophilia symbology + small pizza stores occurring at a rate the defies explanation that have inexplicable financial ties to the DNC and George Soros.

[–]archnihilist 22ポイント23ポイント  (88子コメント)

Start with John Podesta.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Podesta

John Podesta and brother Tony Podesta own a lobbying firm called the Podesta Group that has been around since 1998.

http://www.podesta.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Podesta

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podesta_Group

They have made $17,970,000 in lobbying fees.

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/firmsum.php?id=D000022193

The Panama Papers were leaked and revealed inner workings of the Podesta Group.

https://panamapapers.icij.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers

It turns out that Sberbank, an arm of the Kremlin, is giving money to the Podesta Group to lobby. Herman Gref became CEO of Sberbank in 2007, also helps manage Yandex, and was part of Vladimir Putin's administration.

https://www.ft.com/content/f26b2d3c-63d3-11e6-8310-ecf0bddad227

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sberbank_of_Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Gref

These people all worked to make the Uranium One deal happen. Rosatom, a Russian company, bought Uranium One, a South African company. Frank Giustra, first, acquired mining operations in Khazakstan, under his company, UrAsia, then bought Uranium One, in South Africa, who, then bought assets in the US, like Energy Metals Corporation. Giustra kept the name Uranium One. Ian Telfer was an executive who helped orchestrate a crash in stock price before selling majority share to Rosatom. Sergey Kiriyenko, former Prime Minister in Russia, became CEO in 2007.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosatom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_One

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Giustra

The Clintons and Giustra founded an entity together in 2007, the Clinton Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative. Elton John, Shakira, Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Robin Williams and Ian Telfer were present for the fundraiser. More than 1,000 donors names were concealed.

http://cgepartnership.com/

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/the-giustra-file-sustainable-growth-huge-profits/

One month ago, John Podesta's emails began leaking from wikileaks.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

Dead to rights, Russian company, Rusnano, is caught investing $35 Million into Megan Rouse's company that John Podesta is on the Board of Directors of, owning 75,000 shares. Megan Rouse is John Podesta's daughter, and he failed to disclose the relationship.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4635

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/20/wikileaks-bombshell-john-podestas-daughter-received-75000-shares-putin-connected-energy-company/

Let's stay with our main character, though, because the spirit cooking email is what caught everyone off guard.

I am so looking forward to the Spirit Cooking dinner at my place. Do you think you will be able to let me know if your brother is joining?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/16498

We learn very quickly that Spirit Cooking has an unexpected meaning where a ritual is performed.

http://theantimedia.org/spirit-cooking-wikileaks-podesta-email/

Marina Abramovic did an AMA on plebbit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1jctbp/i_am_performance_artist_marina_abramovic_ask_me/

Marina admits that it isn't art if it is done at home.

http://magafeed.com/marina-abramovic-even-agrees-spirit-cooking-dinners-are-not-art-if-performed-in-private-home/

Marina has a book that spells out exactly what spirit cooking is.

“Spirit Cooking with Essential Aphrodisiac Recipes” was released by Ms. Abramovic in 1996, but the “ingredients” call for “fresh breast milk with fresh sperm milk” to be consumed “on earthquake nights.” http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/4/wikileaks-john-podesta-invited-to-spirit-dinner-ho/

Tying spirit cooking to other books and other authors may be useful.

Okay, so it's creepy. So what? Taking a look at creepy stuff is what brought everyone to some real eye openers.

John Podesta's statue. The Arch of Hysteria

John Podesta also had a basement constructed under his house. This basement purportedly has an art installation involving a number of screens.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2004/apr/20/usa.world

Comet Ping Pong is discovered to have ties to Obama and Podesta in an email's subject line.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/14395

Here seems to be a nice introductory video. Maybe I'll get back to adding the names he mentions.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/dc-art-james-alefantis-184257456.html?ref=gs

This statue appeared again in James Achilles Alefentis Instagram Account

http://imgur.com/Y8FPBm2

Here is another picture of the statue. I think the prominence of a golden idol murder victim of a famous murder is important.

https://i.imgur.com/zkMPNXy.jpg

Then, we see James Alefentis capable of a little construction, himself.

http://imgur.com/6803fLO

Alefentis digging.

https://i.sli.mg/s3px8V.png

A minor googling reveals that James Alefentis and David Brock were lovers. David Brock was blackmailed for $850,000

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/27/media-matters-boss-paid-former-partner-850g-blackmail-settlement.html

David Brock was working for media matters.

Media Matters chief David Brock paid a former domestic partner $850,000 after being threatened with damaging information involving the organization’s donors and the IRS

Media Matters was funded by Center for American Progress which is run by John Podesta.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Podesta

Prostitution seems to happen at this "all ages" "family friendly" establishment.

http://imgur.com/Th0mtsn

Hillary is tied to Comet Ping Pong

http://imgur.com/ctWnCqh

Obama also likes Ping Pong

http://imgur.com/yD7yiU7

I'm not going to bother with the rest of the Ping Pong pictures, for now. My first thought is, okay, so I've heard rumors of pedophiles tied to the Clintons before.

Jeffrey Epstein, who flew elites around on the Lolita Express with Bill Clinton has a private island with a weird temple on it, featuring the owl of Minerva.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-secret-service-on-multiple-lo/

http://imgur.com/4TUbE0L

Who else has a Minerva? There is a giant one at Bohemian Grove where many elites have met. Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Newt Gingrich, George W Bush and many others have been photographed at Bohemian Grove. The Bohemian Club was founded by four journalists.

http://www.lovethetruth.com/jis_images/cremation_of_care.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

Colin Powell sent an email that was leaked, that indicated the attendees of the Bohemian Grove would not be voting for Trump.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/09/14/hacked-colin-powell-email-bohemian-grove-attendees/

Here is a list of known attendees:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bohemian_Club_members

Rent Boy Ranch is supposedly another playground of the Bohemian Club members.

https://pedophilesdownunder.com/2016/02/22/bohemian-grove-pedo-hunting-parties-and-rent-boy-ranch/

At this point, there is an obvious connection. Alex Jones famously recorded a ritual at Bohemian Grove.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtSVBTne-KY

Another pedophile Podesta is tied to is Dennis Hastert, who was also getting blackmailed, who is a 'serial child molester' according to the judge.

http://yournewswire.com/wikileaks-podesta-support-pedophile/

A child trafficker the Clinton Team is tied to is Laura Silsby, who was arrested for child trafficking in the New Life Refuge Case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children%27s_Refuge_case

A lot of people are tied to the Clintons, a lot of people are tied to Comet Ping Pong, a lot of people are tied to pedophilia and a lot of people are tied to cult like rituals. What are we really looking at, here?

George Soros has given money to Comet Ping Pong.

Plebbit discusses

Eventually, we see people involved in agencies that are involved in helping victims of trafficking or even in the prosecution of people who do it.

Arun Rao works with the DoJ.

http://imgur.com/MFzqMVM

Izette Folger works for Innocents at Risk

http://imgur.com/OfJLkZG

Arwen Podesta works for Odyssey House which has locations in New York and... Salt Lake City.

http://imgur.com/z2LR2EW

A suspected Salt Lake City child trafficking ring was a heavily censored discussion across the Internet.

Screencap

I think that is a good starting point for anyone serious about looking into stuff.

[–]Doldenberg 49ポイント50ポイント  (70子コメント)

Sorry, but if that is the kind of proof we're talking about here, I will confidently declare this whole story to be utter bullshit. There's just WAAAY too many red flags here to consider this legitimate. The very structure of this post is one of it. It starts with verifiable information to give itself the appearance of legitimacy, but then immediately devolves into speculation, far-fetched interpretations and questionable sources with an obvious bias.

[–]IwishIwasunique 22ポイント23ポイント  (10子コメント)

I wish I had more upvotes to give. Are people just not being taught critical thinking skills anymore, or is the general populous just more conspiracy minded now days? Or am I just seeing more because I'm on Reddit? What is it? Because it seems like the world is losing their damn minds lately.

[–]ramal_kcirdnek 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's likely a mix of morons who want to believe conspiracies about people whose views they don't share, and fairly well orchestrated trolls who push lies until they gain enough momentum that they can call people shills when they disagree.

[–]___jamil___ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it's on the internet, it must be true!

[–]Slipperysnek22 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

You either haven't seen the Instagram pictures or you have no critical thinking skills. It is not normal to have sexual material on the walls in a family friendly pizza joint. It's not normal to have pedophile artists perform late night shows at a family friendly pizza joint. Stop shilling and start researching.

[–]IwishIwasunique 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

You sound like you really want to have a reasoned, intellectual discussion about this topic. I'm sure you are willing to have your mind changed.

[–]Slipperysnek22 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the reverse. You are ignoring the evidence in front of your eyes. If you had some way of explaining all of the incriminating evidence in a plausible way, I'd be all ears, though I'm sure you don't because that many coincidences don't happen. There should be a police or FBI investigation of this to find real concrete evidence. Everything so far is circumstantial but highly suspicious. You saying "aha! There's no concrete evidence!" is like you're denying evolution. The smoking gun is there, but you'll reserve judgement until a time machine can be built and every generation from amoeba to human is documented.

[–]whitedeer27 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

The only smoking gun here is child porn. We cannot legally touch that even if someone found it. The only "proof" would be illegal to obtain and show. So the authorities have to investigate; there is clearly enough evidence to cause them to look into this situation.

The fact that nothing is being done is what is fueling the continued public outcry. Rightfuly so. You think someone without elite ties could do this and not at least have an investigation into their activity?

[–]IwishIwasunique 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yet again, what evidance do you have of the porn? A pizza place/people interacting with a pizza place talking about cheese pizza? Some coincidental imagery? Stupid instagram pics that are superficial at best? A see a conspiracy fueled witch hunt with no real evidence. People find cp all the time and turn it in without getting in trouble. If you really found anything, someone would turn it in and be a hero, but no one has any real proof, so how can you be so certain? If you are wrong, do you want to know and admit that you were wrong?

[–]whitedeer27 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That was my point; if I got to the point of having evidence I would be committing a crime. All I am capable of doing is pointing out why this topic should be investigated by proper authorities. This should not be controversial. I should not be put in the position of having to do the authorities job for them - especially around possible crimes of this magnitude. Not only the potential (POTENTIAL NOT ASSUMED) harm of children, but also whatever political repercussions would be had from such revelations. Proper authorities should be involved in this investigation, not armchair detectives.

Cheese Pizza has stood for child porn for a very long time, long before this issue with the group surrounding the Podestas. I have no problem admitting I am wrong. However I think you will find this statement is correct.

Why are you projecting that my argument or thoughts are based on "stupid instagram pics?" I have not put forward what you are calling a "conspiracy fueled with hunt." You are using highly charged language to smear anything that disagrees with your narrative. I am not.

This type of sneering language only serves to deflect from content and devalue this discussion, reducing it into petty insult. I can't argue logically against insults like "stupid instagram" because it is emotionally based language.

[–]vtschoir -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm no 'spiracy guy, but at the same time, this is what the Jimmy saville stuff was like prior to his death, and look how that turned out. Scrutiny and examination are worth the time.

[–]archnihilist 0ポイント1ポイント  (58子コメント)

It isn't conclusionary, it specifically states the reason to start looking into stuff.

The Podestas clearly have committed financial crimes and the only reason to do that is to legalize money from real crimes.

Their lobbying generated 18,000,000, which is chump change compared to what they made off the sale of Uranium One. Nevermind the weapons deals in Algeria.

If they are illegally selling Uranium and weapons, maybe we should look into why they are surrounded by child trafficking investigators, prosecutors and charities.

Care to respond? Mainly, I'm curious if you are a shill, so I can tag you.

[–]Doldenberg 15ポイント16ポイント  (57子コメント)

Care to respond? Mainly, I'm curious if you are a shill, so I can tag you.

You can go ahead, if you actually use that word unironically, I see no point in further discussion.

[–]archnihilist 0ポイント1ポイント  (56子コメント)

There are shills around who just interject denials without anything substantive.

There is something going on here that warrants investigation.

You accuse me of being conclusionary, but I wasn't saying lynch everyone, I merely posted my thought process as to why this needs looking into.

Do you have anything to back up why the Podestas shouldn't be investigated? Or, again, are you just going to drive by deny... which is a common tactic of shills.

[–]Doldenberg 10ポイント11ポイント  (55子コメント)

Do you have anything to back up why the Podestas shouldn't be investigated?

Because according to your post there isn't a single reason to do so?! Have we already arrived in times where people need to bring forth reasons why they should NOT be investigated? "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"?

Podesta is involved in lobbying. Fine. Those are legitimate concerns, question is whether they're actually illegal under current laws. Still, fine.

From there on though, you jump onto the conspiracy train. Podesta owns art! Suspicious! There's random photos on Instagram! Suspicious! Something something George Soros! Suspicious! Bohemian Grove! Alex Jones saw it! The walls have eyes!

Give me a break, man. I'm genuinely amazed you managed to produce that whole post without explicitly crying "satanism" once.

[–]archnihilist 3ポイント4ポイント  (54子コメント)

The money, friend. The financial crimes. The treason. The sharing of classified information. Plenty of reason for them to be investigated.

Now, I don't know about you, but I don't have a golden idol of a murder victim in the entrance to my house.

I also don't go to a place and organize fundraisers at a place where, admittedly, prostitution is going on.

Why was David Brock successfully blackmailed for $850,000?

Combine all of that with the Franklin Scandal, the Dutroux Affair, the Hampstead victims, and the report from American Psychiatrists that they believe this child abuse is happening in a massive scale and we have to start looking to the people who can make that happen.

That is these people, who are tied in with charities for victims of child trafficking, investigators and prosecutors.

George Soros is also funneling money through this pizza place.

We also have numerous examples, like Michael Devlin, who was caught, working at a pizza place AND a funeral home, simultaneously. We also know the Franklin power players were funneling money through a funeral home.

We know child abuse rings are happening on a massive scale. Pizza places and funeral homes have already been tied to them. Comet Ping Pong is funneling money and "art" for the DNC power players and prostitution is happening there.

Does it really sound like this is coming out of nowhere?

[–]Doldenberg 12ポイント13ポイント  (48子コメント)

Now, I don't know about you, but I don't have a golden idol of a murder victim in the entrance to my house.

You even cited the name of it himself, how fucking hard would it have been to look it up. The Arch of Hysteria is not just the name of that piece, but of multiple other pieces (for examples, see here). It is a common trope in modern and classical art and has nothing to with the Dahmer-polaroids. If you bothered to actually look, you might even have noticed that the pose depicted there is noticeably different, with arms pointing to the sides and both elbows and knees bent inwards. Compare that to the recurring form of the Arch of Hysteria in the link above, arms and legs stretched out straight as if hung up by the waist.

I also don't go to a place and organize fundraisers at a place where, admittedly, prostitution is going on.

To cite that part from your post:

"Prostitution seems to happen at this "all ages" "family friendly" establishment. "

Followed by this picture.

Either you forgot to tell us something here or I'm supposed to see something that I simply don't.

George Soros is also funneling money through this pizza place.

Okay, first, please stop expecting that just crying "George Soros" all the time makes you appear MORE credible. It doesn't. Second, that whole story boils down to Soros paying into that PAC (already well known) and that PAC then paying that pizza place for catering and facilities because, again, already known, they've held fundraisers there. That is the "link"? That is "George Soros funneling money"?

That is these people, who are tied in with charities for victims of child trafficking, investigators and prosecutors.

I mean, I see the point of "hiding in plain sight and covering it all up" here, but that's an issue of "being involved with those doesn't make them less suspicious". Not "being involved with those makes them more suspicious".

Does it really sound like this is coming out of nowhere?

No, it sounds like it is coming out of the mouths of people who are so far up their own asses that it can't even be called a filter bubble anymore. You even devoted a whole segment of your post to warming up the old Bohemian Grove story, a story about some old men who like pissing and smoking in the woods, which the complete nutjob Alex Jones tried linking to satanism.

I admire your attempt to make it all appear credible, but when every single source for it looks like this, that's somewhat hard.

[–]___jamil___ 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

you have so much more patience than I could ever possess

[–]archnihilist 1ポイント2ポイント  (46子コメント)

It is a fact, friend that Soros has given money to Comet Ping Pong. Money is evidence. When you have pictures of yourself with large quantities of cash in foreign denominations, you provide law enforcement with probable cause to learn where the money came from.

AS a group of people based on what James Alefentis has posted, there is probable cause of financial crimes.

People have been arrested for doing less and have lost more money to evidence lockup by simply not explaining where the money came from.

That is just one reason for law enforcement to look in James Alefentis.

The Podesta's acquired money and shares of Uranium One and illegally laundered money from Sberbank, an arm of the Kremlin, where the Panama Papers revealed the existence of these shell companies. Later, Wikileaks reveals another, independent confirmation that Rosatom and the Podestas are involved and even specify the number of shares that were given to a shell company, owned by Megan Rouse, Podesta's daughter, where Podesta is a share-holding member on the Board of Directors.

There is no reason to commit financial crimes if you aren't getting money from real crimes.

[–]nimoto 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Now, I don't know about you, but I don't have a golden idol of a murder victim in the entrance to my house.

http://i.imgur.com/dgq5Rt3.png

That is not art of a murder victim... As a person who enjoys art, if I had a huge awesome house and access to that sculpture, I would be really proud to hang it up.

Why was David Brock successfully blackmailed for $850,000?

Sounds like he took around $170k of art and possessions in a messy breakup that he may or may not have had legit claim to. Sounds like a ugly breakup between rich and well connected people, not evidence of a child sex ring. The information used in the "blackmail" could have been literally anything, it's a huge reach to say it's about any one specific thing, and a way bigger reach to say it's related to what you're suggesting.

I also don't go to a place and organize fundraisers at a place where, admittedly, prostitution is going on.

I didn't notice any proof of prostitution at that place in your links? You basing that off something? In the email it sounds like a "group of lawyers" organized the fundraiser.

It seems like the owner of comet pizza supports the democratic party and candidates, and has made clear it's a place they can host fundraising parties... I am sure if you dug deep you'd find all the money / email mentions are related to fundraisers or something. Is there something more concrete?

[–]archnihilist 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Totality of the evidence.

It's a term, in court, that explains why one piece of evidence may not be enough, but the totality, when considered with the rest of the evidence, adds up to intent.

By focusing on the statue, you are ignoring the totality of the evidence. The money laundering. The electioneering. The weapons. The uranium. The spirit cooking. The Bohemian Grove. The Dutroux Affair. The Franklin Scandal. The Hampstead Case. The Panama Papers. The Guccifer Leaks. The DC Leaks. The FBI Releases. The Podesta Emails. The Hillary Emails. The Soros Emails.

"Is there something more concrete?"

Yes. The social media pages of everyone linked to these people have been archived.

Jeffrey Epstein is a known pedophile tied to these people.

Dennis Hastert is a known pedophile tied to these people.

Laura Silsby is a known child trafficker who is tied to these people.

What do we see in the pattern of people in the social media links?

We see people like Kevin Reynolds, who is an "infant massager" with a babysitting website with a cheesepizza.jpg in the file structure tied to nothing.

As all of the social media links have been archived, so have all of these people's websites.

In another website, vacation concierge, Kevin Reynolds has another unassociated picture. Meaning, one that doesn't show up on any of the pages, just like the cheese pizza picture. It is of him and a naked little girl.

What does his Facebook show? Kevin Reynolds, naked, masturbating outdoors at a lake. On his Facebook.

Ok, but that is just one, right?

Not even close. Jeanette Hayes has pictures of herself with Hillary, Marina Abramovic and all of the other people tied in this. Check her instagram out for yourself. Something isn't right.

Even worse, you literally start seeing some of these social connections posting satanic themed art involving real blood. I'm not going to share those links yet, until I have archived them in a few places, but the rabbit hole isn't moving in the direction that these things are all just coincidences.

The totality of the evidence, friend.

[–]Sporz 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I googled "pizzagate" because I was thinking "What is this?" and I was not disappointed. Out of the loop.

Obama also likes Ping Pong

And I play rapier and rapier starts with an R and Russia starts with an R...

[–]freshthrowaway1138 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

but but the Ping Pong pics are what really sealed the deal! After seeing that vile bastard playing ping pong with a child! I knew it was allllllll real.

/s

[–]Dear_Leader_Trump_ 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

so

[–]archnihilist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dutroux Affair Franklin Scandal Pace Memorandum

Easier to call someone crazy when you just don't want to admit you aren't smart enough to understand their point of view.

[–]archnihilist 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dutroux Affair Franklin Scandal Pace Memorandum

Easier to call someone crazy when you just don't want to admit you aren't smart enough to understand their point of view.

[–]Dear_Leader_Trump_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Right, I'm not smart enough to string together a bunch of bullshit.

[–]archnihilist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Among other things, maybe.

But you'll get better, friend.

[–]IwishIwasunique 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

uhhhh, I'm just going to leave this here.

http://www.snopes.com/john-podesta-spirit-cooking/

Also, is the 'Obama loves ping pong' a joke? A lot of those instagram pics seem like a person making a joke, you know, because it's a shitty pizza place located in DC.

[–]archnihilist 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

As if that should absolve him of the money laundering uncovered in the Panama Papers? The weapons scheme to Azerbaijan?

Totality of the evidence is that there are financial crimes occurring to hide the money from real crimes.

[–]PutHisGlassesOn 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've read everything you've posted here with an open mind and I have a sincere question. I'll admit up front though that my question has more to do with the way words shape the way we think and that if you word a theme in a particular way it'll shape how you make your point. Anyway, here it is:

If someone hadn't taught you the phrase "totality of evidence," which allows you to haphazardly throw vaguely related and contentious points together so you can claim a conclusion without relying on any specific thing being true, what do you think you would be parroting instead?

[–]archnihilist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How's this? (Why would you read everything I post?)

https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3765

Cable mentions 10 Americans from Idaho arrested for trafficking children. They claim they are headed to the Dominican Republic to establish an orphanage.

The only orphanage being established at that time was the DREAM Center.

Michel Zaleski gave money to Hillary in a weird way.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/21434

Do you see Michel Zaleski's 20k anywhere? I'm nervous about that one.

Michel Zaleski Founded the DREAM Center Orphanage in Dominican Republic.

Spencer Kimball Foundation also funded the construction.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56e068dc2eeb814053c52d43/t/573bb9cf8259b51109b5744a/1463531983671/donorlist0910.pdf

Spencer Kimball's sister Kathryn Kimball is married to Peter Mattis, who donated to Hillary Clinton.

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mattis

The Pace Memorandum ties the Mormon Church to satanic child ritual sacrifice in 1990 where children were being sacrificed at an altar under the west end of the temple. The sacrifices would have been occurring approximately the same time as Spencer Kimball was president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pace_memorandum

[–]nwostumper 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank You

[–]undercoverhugger 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Saved for later. I want to be vigilant, but the rabbit holes go so deep.

[–]Tort78 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That statue is not at John's place - it's at his brother Tony's. It's also hanging up in the national gallery in Ottawa which is referenced in the comments of the picture.

I do think we have to be careful when going on these types of explorations. BUT there is way too much weird references, pictures and coincidences to dismiss that something might be going on out of hand.

[–]Dear_Leader_Trump_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Panama Papers were leaked and revealed inner workings of the Podesta Group. https://panamapapers.icij.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers

Neither link mentions podesta.

[–]fabulous_frolicker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So what does Obama playing ping pong have to do with this?

[–]Man_Of_Plains 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Pizzagate is VERY deep and long-shooting conspiracy theory that links Comet Pizza, a small pizza shop, and certain high-profile individuals with accusations of pedophilia and human-trafficking. I'm not even going to try to explain the whole theory, but here's some summary material.

Summary Post (Long)

Summary Video (Short)(NSFW)

[–]middlemanmark 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's some of the most stupid shit I've ever read.