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[Post Match Thread] Manchester Utd 1 - 1 Arsenal (self.reddevils)

DatGuyRichValencia が 投稿 - announcement

FT: Manchester United 1 - 1 Arsenal

Mata 1-0

Giroud 1-1

cc /u/meho7

BBC Report

Full Match/Highlights

Next Game: At home to Feyenoord on Thursday 8:05PM

Next PL Game: At home to West Ham next Sunday 4:30PM

Rival Watch:

Assuming Liverpool, Chelsea, City and Tottenham win we will fall 10, 9, 8 and 5 pts behind each of them respectively.

Thoughts???

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[–]TheRealPeteWheelerEmbarrassed 594ポイント595ポイント  (136子コメント)

After outplaying them the entire match, overcoming some shocking refereeing decisions, and squandering so many chances to put the game away, to give up a win on their only shot on target in the 89th minute because of an unmarked man on the far post... How utterly, utterly disappointing. What a shame.

[–]TyperSniperKeane 218ポイント219ポイント  (19子コメント)

Watford, Burnley, Stoke and now this, so many dropped points are why we'll be lucky to get top 4 this year, I'm genuinely red in the face with anger.

e: Now that I've calmed down a bit (yet my cheeks are still burning), I will say I'm very very happy with how we're playing under Jose so far this year because the passion shown today was flawless which I don't think Arsenal can say, despite the sickening end result.

[–]Box_Man23Shaw 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think Watford deserve to be in that list, we didn't deserve to get anything from that match, however the other three matches we should have won, having played really well and drew, that's six points thrown away from really strong positions and simply isn't good enough.

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    [–]earlofsandwich 70ポイント71ポイント  (16子コメント)

    Disappointing absolutely, but we definitely appear to invite pressure when we have a lead. I thought we played excellently today for most of the game but I wish we could have maintained the pressure until the end.

    [–]DaveShadow 68ポイント69ポイント  (8子コメント)

    This has been an issue for years now, going right back to Moyes' reign. We score a goal and it's like "Thats grand, 1-0 will be enough". You cannot, cannot switch off against Arsenal, even such a poor version of them.

    [–]QuicktimeSamHerrera 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You can't switch off against any team in this league. We showed them no respect in the last ten minutes and we paid the price.

    [–]the_dworkSchweinsteiger 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It goes back further than Moyes. Fergie's last years were like that sometimes too.

    [–]Flick_My_Bean_Geoff 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I am baffled by this. Arsenal weren't attacking. Then when we scored they throw men forward. Of course we have to defend more.

    Hard to believe some people think that a game stays the same when the situation changes.

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      [–]Vapourtrails89 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

      yeah, don't really think subbing Mata helped in that regard

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        [–]dkkoooGiggs 29ポイント30ポイント  (10子コメント)

        Feel sad man, we needed these three points. Nothing seems to be going our way, we deserved this, Arsenal were shit all game

        [–]summerincassiopeia 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

        If we let in goals like that, then we most certainly didn't deserve it.

        [–]dkkoooGiggs 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

        When we dominate the whole game and all the better chances, we certainly do deserve it

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          [–]PM_ME_UR_HORNY_PICS 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Shouldn't have sat back

          [–]JoblessMuch 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

          How are we getting fucked every game despite playing much better than the other team I do not know.

          [–]ThadderfulRooney 29ポイント30ポイント  (10子コメント)

          overcoming some shocking refereeing decisions

          How bad does it have to be before something happens about this?

          How can human error keep deciding the most valuable footballing league in the world?

          How can two of the biggest institutions in world football keep getting fucked over by the ineptitude of one man with no oversight...

          Its unfathomable that this happens week in week out.

          [–]wakey87433Mata 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

          To me it's not even mistakes but the inconsistency between refs and even the same ref between games (and often in the same game)

          [–]TheRealPeteWheelerEmbarrassed 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Eh. Refereeing in the Prem is a joke, but frankly I'm more worried about the state of our own team.

          [–]benyarRooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

          How bad does it have to be before something happens about this? How can human error keep deciding the most valuable footballing league in the world?

          If the alternative is something like the NFL has, I don't think you want that.

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            [–]the_lord_of_light 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

            cant add much more this

            we just dont have any luck, everything going against us

            we made arsenal look a mid table club who were defending for their lives and still could not win

            [–]Count__Duckula 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Should have pressed higher up the field. We were constantly winning balls in arsenals half. Why on earth would you then sit back that deep?

            [–]Dincht04 14ポイント15ポイント  (55子コメント)

            Entirely Rashford's fault for the goal. Absolutely pathetic.

            [–]TheChieffMartial 151ポイント152ポイント  (19子コメント)

            To be fair, Rashford is a centre forward playing at left wing, in his 89th minute, against a fresh Oxlade-Chamberlin. I don't think any of our players would've been able to go with him.

            Marking of Giroud however....

            [–]epic_weaselHerrera 20ポイント21ポイント  (6子コメント)

            Rashford got skinned yeah, but Jones getting double teamed at the back post doesn't help. Multiple points of fault, and in this league one defensive fault will fuck you up

            [–]Arth_Passionate Bastard 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

            And why Blind wasn't there to help Rashford?

            [–]eoghan697 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

            He's was too occupied with being an absolute dreamboat

            [–]VazinhoRashford 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

            If you look at the video, Blind was man marking which was the correct call given Arsenal's overload of attacking players in front of goal. If he went zone, his man would've been wide open in a more dangerous area.

            [–]PoppinKREAMRashgod 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Yes he's at fault but who the fuck was marking Giroud? He's a clinical center forward and waltz right in with an easy free header. Once again a defensive lapse costed us 3 points. So fucking infuriating

            [–]KakeruAizawa 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Schneiderlin.

            I tried to defend him as much as I could, but that mistake was the last straw for me. Absolutely unforgivable.

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              [–]WhatTheHellManSir Not Yet Appearing In This Film 49ポイント50ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Imagine if it was Memphis lol the sub would be in a riot

              [–]DelTrottervan Nistelrooy 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

              Meh, he's an attacker, why aren't we doubling on Ox?

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                  [–]wasjig1van Persie 57ポイント58ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  We really need to start finishing our chances

                  [–]ClickHereForYoga 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  This is basically the problem. Stoke, Burnley, Arsenal. Three draws, two goals.

                  Refereeing decisions will even out, our players will make mistakes and we will concede goals just like today. All the top teams today combat this by scoring more than 2 goals in 3 games. It's not like we haven't had the chances.

                  [–]ohahcantona 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  rojo needed to finish that header

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                    [–]HairyArthurManchester United 162ポイント163ポイント  (26子コメント)

                    6 points wasted in our last 3 home games. This is not the form of a team that can challenge in a meaningful way.

                    Another pitiful refereeing performance. He wasn't the reason we didn't win but he made some really poor decisions.

                    [–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 44ポイント45ポイント  (14子コメント)

                    We're all aware at this stage that the title is well beyond our reach, top 4 is unfortunately the goal

                    [–]Blue9Nine 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    I think top 4 is rapidly slipping out of reach...doesnt help when we drop 2pts against one of our main rivals for that target

                    [–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    It is, but its not over yet, we're 6 points off of two known bottlers.

                    [–]Remy_LaCroix_ 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    yeah but we are also bottlers so three bottlers going for that fourth spot.

                    [–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Yeah, but its silly to say 4th is out of the question when there is still 26 matches to play and we're only 6 behind. We never look far off going on a run though, just can't bloody do it.

                    [–]j0rbshRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    it will take some epic bottling from others teams for United to get top 4... unfortunately

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                          [–]availableusername10Beckham 78ポイント79ポイント  (6子コメント)

                          NBC just named Giroud MOTM. What a joke

                          [–]mattmanutdKeane 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Thought the same. Should have been Valencia.

                          [–]BetweenTheCheeksAnderson 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Sky gave it to Valencia. TV company motm is by no means official

                          [–]sgroil 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Sky gave it to Valencia tho

                          [–]StormyJMasterPogba 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          That's infuriating

                          [–]dkkoooGiggs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Hahaha seriously? Wtfff says it all about NBC, embarrassment

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                              [–]QuicktimeSamHerrera 117ポイント118ポイント  (14子コメント)

                              Played well but bottled it, once again.

                              We desperately needed three points from this game.

                              [–]pepmourinhoLingard 40ポイント41ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Ugh that Giroud goal was gutting. More than usual. We needed the three points.

                              [–]mattmanutdKeane 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I knew it was coming when Champion kept spewing those stats about how long it had been since Wenger's team scored vs Mou's team.

                              [–]vincent1989Herrera 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Whoever had that air horn has literally no rhythm.

                              [–]mrjk360 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              This result basically sums up how its been the past 4 years. Have some optimism and think things are finally going to go well, but it just ends up in despair.

                              [–]Savage9645Rashford 72ポイント73ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              Arsenal was pathetic the entire game and we still don't win.

                              [–]pearlz176The Ginger Prince 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              Arsenal were pathetic because we didn't let them play their game.

                              [–]IhatecharacterlimitsValencia 103ポイント104ポイント  (28子コメント)

                              We were keeping them well pegged back when we were playing offensively, why then go defensive and give them the ball? It's clearly going to give them more chances.

                              [–]endsandskinsTHE SELF APPOINTED COMMISSIONER OF FOOTBALL 60ポイント61ポイント  (6子コメント)

                              I swear it's what we do every single game. Score one goal and think that we've won it.

                              [–]Takley 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              People will ignore Mourinhos fault in this, yet it happens every week, because of him.

                              [–]ShomedembeatsMartial 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Don't act like this didn't happen under LVG, Moyes, and even Fergie in his last few seasons.

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                                [–]chutzpahisawordValencia 45ポイント46ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                C'mon now. With 1-0 lead against a good team, 9/10 times the winning team automatically goes defensive mentally and tactically.

                                [–]Flick_My_Bean_Geoff 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                They just came more attacking since they had nothing more to lose.

                                [–]digitagCarrick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Both are true. They were pushing for a goal but we definitely sat off them

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                                  [–]DatGuyRichValencia[S] 221ポイント222ポイント  (54子コメント)

                                  These fucking shit Referees. Every fucking game.

                                  [–]PoppinKREAMRashgod 62ポイント63ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Waiting for Mou to make a conspiracy against United comment. On a serious note fuck that shit cunt of a ref. We dominated, but one defensive lapse and we drop more points. It's so frustrating

                                  [–]Dmcnich15Van Nistelrooy 24ポイント25ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                  We need to be better. 3 absolutely pathetic draws this season. Keep blaming the refs

                                  [–]Mesial 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  FUCK MARRINER

                                  [–]badgarok725SAF 53ポイント54ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                  I can't believe this is at the top. The penalty shout was hardly a clear one and everything else pretty much went 50/50.

                                  Plus there's so much more to talk about than the ref today

                                  [–]detinuHerrera 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  So obstructing the player with your arm is considered fair play? The more you learn

                                  [–]TheMediumPandaSchmeichel 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  50/50?? You gotta be fucking taking the piss here mate. That was a clear cut penalty.

                                  [–]VictoriousPRRonaldo 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  He literally fucking dove at him.

                                  [–]breadfan18Shaw 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  While i disagree that the penalty was not a clear one..throwing your body on a player having no chance to win the ball, only to obstruct...its a nailed on penalty! But i agree with your overall point, we can blame the ref all we want, and he was pretty poor today, but really we need to be looking at ourselves!

                                  [–]boy_wonder199Rooney 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I seriously don't understand how the penalty decision is not a clear one. He put his arms around Valencia. Granted Valencia was kind of off-balance, but he could have regained his balance and stayed up. Even that's irrelevant since putting your arms around someone's legs and bringing them down while you yourself are off-balance is an absolute stonewall penalty.

                                  I don't understand how people can even argue its not clear and this is not because of some united bias.

                                  [–]MetalGearPorkBunBlind 19ポイント20ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                  He gave them so many 50/50s though. Booked our players way quicker than theirs too.

                                  [–]epic_weaselHerrera 51ポイント52ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                  Booked Darmian for no contact, then waited until close to 85min to book that twat Ramsey who was sticking a foot in all game. I just want some damn consistency

                                  [–]pucykoks 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  He booked Mata for celebrating a goal, c'mon.

                                  [–]MetalGearPorkBunBlind 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                  Martin Tyler: "You could argue that Darmian could've been sent off for a second yellow" Fuck off you wanker

                                  [–]epic_weaselHerrera 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  He could have in the sense that the next foul was bookable and he'd already been booked, just should have never been booked in the first placd

                                  [–]manutd19De Gea 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  But Tyler is a United fan isn't he?? /s

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                                    [–]djokovSolskjær 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Not booking Mustafi for clinging to Pogba's arm when he would have been clean through on goal if Rooney had found him...

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                                      [–]the_dworkSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Hardly a clear one? He literally throw himself in front of Valencia who is clear through on goal and has no reason to go down unless fouled.

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                                        [–]PM_ME_UR_HORNY_PICS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        You can't even cough in the direction of the ref

                                        [–]Benjammin172 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Getting very tired of constant crying about the refereeing. We completely outplayed arsenal regardless of the officiating, and then the defense goes to sleep at the worst possible moment. It's not the first time it's happened this year, and surely won't be the last. Should the officiating be better? Sure. But we won't be a top level club until we can play for a full 90 minutes.

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                                          [–]WaffleMan29Mata 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          That's actually amazing

                                          [–]CveinMemphis & Martial 56ポイント57ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          Fuck the ref

                                          [–]epic_weaselHerrera 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          God fucking dammit.

                                          [–]vincent1989Herrera 56ポイント57ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                          I know they snatched at point, and "thats what champions do". But the fact that Arsenal again this season see themselves as serious title contenders. Then come to Old Trafford with a chance of going top and put in a performance like that. Don't make me fucking laugh!

                                          [–]screaming_underwater 39ポイント40ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          Hang on a second. That's precisely what United did when they went to Anfield. Virtually everyone on here all said United were title contenders towards the start of the season.

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                                            [–]Mos_Eisley_CantonaJose Mourinho 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Irrespective of the result, MFW I watch Antonio Valencia

                                            [–]combatwombat02Scholes 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            That is a brilliant username. Member the Cantona?

                                            [–]Surfacing710Keane 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            We're throwing points away this season, should have at least 6 more after this, Burnley and the Stoke game.

                                            Sickened by that result.

                                            [–]jfkcidnaig 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            That's what happens when you're not a top 4 team. Drop stupid points. Simple as.

                                            [–]ShomedembeatsMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            at least 6 more

                                            At least? That'd be the maximum possible points from those three games.

                                            [–]PerksofthesewallsHerrera 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Fucking pathetic

                                            [–]Ferragutz 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            I'm dead inside

                                            [–]boxedjackScholes 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Fuck that. Arsenal didn't deserve anything.

                                            [–]nujabes02 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Maybe Mata shouldn't have come off

                                            [–]summerincassiopeia 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            It's the hope that gets you.

                                            [–]JamieD86 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Hate it, but what can you say. Wenger put on Oxlade Chamberlain and Giroud to do EXACTLY what they did. Darmian going off left us with Rashford and Blind on the left, and Ox ghosted past Rashford with ease, and Giroud can get his head on anything.

                                            Wenger knew exactly what he was doing and it worked. Well done ya cunt, you snatched a totally undeserved point!

                                            [–]AfreeZSir Alex Ferguson 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            We can't fucking park the bus on a 1-nil lead.

                                            We're not good enough defensively for it.

                                            [–]McGriftyBüttner - 1 Gerrard - 0 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Fuck this ref.

                                            [–]strawzySchweinsteiger's godly calves 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Yeah fuck the ref, fuck this fuck that etc. But none of that excuses the fact that we dominated that second half and didn't fucking convert yet again. Its getting like this every fucking week now.

                                            [–]masticlez 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Sick of feeling shafted

                                            [–]raianf 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                            Bad beat, but utd made us look like a sunday league team and there are plenty of positives for you guys.

                                            [–]TheRedDevil10 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Thank you, sensible fan :)

                                            [–]TheMediumPandaSchmeichel 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Swap? Give us our 2 points back and we retroactively played like shit in the second half.

                                            [–]first_aid 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            United are not good enough to park the bus.

                                            [–]TheMediumPandaSchmeichel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            We didn't park the bus at any time. A team like Arsenal will always have spells with the ball and attempt to go forward. For most of the game we prevented that brilliantly. Rash made a mistake (against a fresh, off-the-bench player) and nobody followed Giroud into the box where Jones already had Kocielny to mark. It wasn't good, no, but still unbelievably unfair they managed to steal a point from that shitty performance.

                                            [–]NzudememiMartial 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Lol, 3 Draws in a row at home? All 3 games could've been easily won. This honestly feels like a loss the way Arsenal played. They had 1 shot on target the whole game it's so frustrating Ref's a joke.

                                            [–]LakeShow00Tony Martial 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            I wish I was a android from Westworld so I could shut down for the rest of the weekend. This is beyond a joke

                                            [–]freshpots11Dave Saves 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            This shit ruins your weekend. Try and have a good one folks whatever you're up to.

                                            [–]wry_guy 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Positive spin: At some point, greatly outplaying opponents should start bringing in better results.

                                            Pogba - Herrea- Carrick midfield looked really strong.

                                            Until Rashford let Chamberlain in, the defense was organized and powerful, which is impressive considering that, on paper, a Rojo-Jones CB pairing is among the weakest possible pairings I can thing of.

                                            [–]JimmyChappersSchweinsteiger 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            The midfield played really well. Carrick gave the other two so much freedom. And on paper our centre backs should have been minced. In the game? Rojo was one of the best players. Solid tackling, plenty of interceptions and played the ball out quite well

                                            [–]thestrugglingmonk 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Outside of the context of the league standings, i am really happy with this match.

                                            I great effort from all of our players. Effective subs. Great fooball.

                                            I genuinely feel the result was unlucky. The performance bodes well for the future. There is no crisis. Mou is building. This performance was a joy to watch.

                                            Carrick may just be the missing piece. Play him until he breaks!

                                            [–]fishyshivers15Mkhitaryan 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Shame Fellaini was injured today, I reckon if he was on the bench, he would have been straight subbed on to man mark Giroud in the box since none of our fit defenders are remotely good or physical enough to compete with Giroud in the air.

                                            [–]WszystkoZajete20 times, 20 times Man United! 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            is it safe to say we lost 1-1?

                                            [–]dunnymuncher 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Rojo and Jones fought hard. Undeserved.

                                            [–]combatwombat02Scholes 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Rooney with the more unconventional "Bulgaria WC 1994" way of getting shitfaced as a form of training.

                                            [–]roxyard 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            God this is frustrating.

                                            [–]PenPaperShotgunJose Mourinho 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            I miss the days where someone would have died to stop giroud getting to that ball, Morgan came on and did sudoku

                                            [–]Low-Born-Scum 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            19 points after 12 games, what a joke.

                                            [–]ccdewa 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Hey guys i hear Pokemon Sun Moon is good

                                            [–]The_PalumboIbrahimovic 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Finally. someone hear with a level head on their shoulders.

                                            [–]MalforianJose Mourinho 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            who he play for?

                                            [–]yosoycapitan13Manchester United 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Games like these, is where I come to the realization that I invest way too much emotion in the team and sport in general. Have a good weekend.

                                            [–]FootballRobbChicharito 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            FUCK

                                            [–]moonmilkcakes 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Im fucking pissed man fuck fuck fuck

                                            [–]TyperSniperKeane 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            So many dropped points.

                                            [–]MiLSturbieMartial 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Fuck this stupid sport..

                                            [–]Shadowbanned24601Formerly /u/colmshan1990 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            No reason to let them back into the game.

                                            Why the fuck did we stop attacking? Why instead of keeping up the pressure which has worked perfectly all game do we let them pile the pressure onto us?

                                            If Mourinho could resist parking the bus while in front for more than 10 minutes we would have seen that out comfortably.

                                            [–]ballsforbreakfastBlind 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Anyone feel like we can't catch a break this season? I feel disgusted

                                            [–]MR777Van Nistelrooy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            We were the better team and played better than we have in a while. Jones and Rojo wasn't a bad conbination. Gutted to see Arsenal grab an equaliser but had a feeling they would (they've done it before this season). Arsenal will celebrate a 1-1 against us.

                                            [–]alexHunterGod 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            TBH I'm just sad we ended up considering a cheap goal. But I'm happy the way we have performed and can see we are starting to gel as a team

                                            [–]Carparzho 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Why do we always sit back and invite the opponent everytime we score first... ffs

                                            [–]spoofexKing Cantona 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            Easy to say refs are against us at time, but jesus christ, this is starting to get ridiculous now. No 50/50's our way and they should have been down to 10 in the first half at least!

                                            Hard to swallow that as anything but a loss based on how much we dominated, but if we play like that every game we'll do well.

                                            And Valencia is a god. No other way to describe him.

                                            [–]I_WILL_NEVER_RUSTdoubted Martial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            It happens. Fuck.

                                            [–]CveinMemphis & Martial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Another 2 points we undeservedly didn't gain.

                                            Stoke, Burnley, Arsenal.

                                            Fuck this.

                                            [–]mrmadoffBerbatov 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            surely we've gotten all the bad luck out the way now? smooth sailing from here

                                            [–]BeeftuckJanuzaj 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            At least we are playing better than we were last year. This result really sucks but if you look at the flip side our bad luck cannot go on forever!

                                            We had a makeshift back four and they managed their first shot on target in the 89th minute. De Gea didn't even make a save! Last couple of years we have been relying on De Gea to win games!

                                            [–]wdtpw 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            a) I think there were a lot of things to be happy about that match. Arsenal are genuine title contenders and were cut to one shot in the 86th minute. It might not have born fruit yet, but Mourinho is slowly and steadily improving the team.

                                            b) On the other hand, Rashford seems short of confidence. A few times he held up the ball rather than running at the goal. One really good striker would transform this team. I think Rashford or Martial could be that striker, but not this season.

                                            [–]Mr4do 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            About 30 mins after my frustration i've come here to express my mind.

                                            We dominated, the players obviously care and trust Mourinho who got his tactics almost spot on tonight. We have an overpaid squad that has talent and age, but lacks experience. This is costing us at the moment.

                                            If the board trusts Mourinho and ships out some of our wage carriers, we will soon be back where we belong.

                                            Enjoy the rest of the weekend and be proud.

                                            [–]Rambo247365 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I think Valencia's performance showed how dangerous a fast, attacking fullback is for us. Would be great if we could get that on both flanks. Shaw certainly has the potential, let's hope and pray

                                            [–]elohir 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            People blaming Mourinho are blowing my mind. You can be the best manager in the world but there's not much you can do when your players shit the bed.

                                            7 outfield players in the box. Look at how much space the Arsenal players have. (note Jones already halfway to falling on his arse)

                                            http://i.imgur.com/jWP18Kg.jpg

                                            [–]Manlad 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Don't know what Arsene was doing putting Elneny and Coquelin at cm: those 2 were dominated by Herrara, Pogba and carrick throughout most of the game. The ref wasn't great, we were unlucky, arsenal got lots of luck and in the end it is a hard draw to take. I can't help feeling like we have dropped 2 points here. This win would have set us up very nicely on a run of confidence and thus form. I am furious that Ramsey stayed on the pitch and I don't think a penalty can get much clearer than the foul on Valencia. I feel like I keep on saying this but: the performance was good but the result was disappointing.

                                            [–]colucci 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I'm not too fond of the gap that is forming between us and top 5.

                                            [–]maxzx2 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Why do we always stop after one goal. No point getting angry at the ref.

                                            [–]ajemikRooney 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Arsenal had ONE FUCKING SHOT. ONE. SHOT.

                                            Why the fuck do we have to ALWAYS TURN OFF WHEN WE SCORE? Every fucking time. It's patethic, jesus christ almighty. That's bullshit that suddenly when we score players decide "naa, fuck that, we gon' defend even though we played the game really, really well and we should continue doing that".

                                            Fucking idiotic. I don't fucking care "hey, but at least we didn't lose". We fucking did. It's patethic and there was no will of winning against a side that should trash us, but didn't. So we decided that giving them a present with 5 minutes to play would be such a sweet, sweet thing to do. Arsenal fans will be glad that we have such great hearts.

                                            Fucking hell.

                                            [–]TheTazTurnerRooney 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            I miss Bailly :(

                                            [–]red-17 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Jones and Rojo were superb today. We didn't really miss Bailly or Smalling. The goal is more on the midfield for not putting a body on Giroud.

                                            [–]W0rsleyRafael 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Can't believe that, playing well all game, dominating for a lot of the second half but after we score we just let them attack us, happens too often and we very clearly are not good enough defensively to play that way.

                                            [–]SantagetoutClauseMourinho 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Can't even blame the refs. We're getting nowhere.

                                            [–]ri0t333Januzaj 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Can we not blame the ref.

                                            [–]mattmanutdKeane 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Fuck Mariner

                                            [–]L4rsinhoRashford 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            For fuck's sake

                                            [–]CraftySpastic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Well, that sucks.

                                            [–]nerdie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Fuck

                                            [–]Set-Abominae 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Fuck's sake, that had to be a victory...

                                            [–]Mitchel_C95Blind 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I'm not even surprised.

                                            [–]WaffleMan29Mata 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            They were so fucking bad holy shit

                                            [–]availableusername10Beckham 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            what the fuck

                                            [–]ateroPride of all Europe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            The more I watch our matches the more I sympathize with Jose for feeling persecuted. Fucking everything against us.

                                            [–]_________________-- 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Oh good, another season of mediocrity.

                                            [–]kyro7Scholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I said in the last 10 minutes we can't sit deep, if we play high Giroud becomes useless, so we play deep and let his heading ability come into play, feels like a loss.

                                            [–]11men1cupAnyone But Moyes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Please end my miserable existence.

                                            [–]blaster1988Bailly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Didn't like the Mata substitution. Don't really think Schneiderlin should be in United.

                                            [–]hignz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Absolute wasters.

                                            [–]headkick93 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            The negativity right now is understandable. But there are positives. We outplayed them all game (not just one half like usual..) and shut down their best players. We just needed to create more clear chances... Also ref can fuck off, that was awful.

                                            [–]vishwadeepak123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Let's not get ahead of ourselves a point against arsenal (genuine title contender) is always good. It's matches like Burnley, Watford and stoke that are killing us off.

                                            [–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            We should have had a penalty, but have only themselves to blame. As with Stoke, fell asleep under no real pressure.

                                            [–]CrantsDe Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Frustrating, one we should have won. Arsenal not great for long stretches, but defended willingly, and their attack was good enough for a burst when it counts.

                                            More of the same for us , pressure and dominance but not enough quality end product. It's beginning to feel annoyingly familiar.

                                            Rojo and Jones looked solid at the back. No-nonsense defending from both of them, aided by Arsenal not offering a great deal other than aimless long balls in the last twenty minutes.

                                            Goal was disappointing. Give a target man a decent cross and you're asking for trouble. Probably Rashford should have shut it down before the cross came in, but given that he's a striker doing a job out wide, it'd be harsh to blame him for the goal.

                                            Positives: - midfield looked sharp. Carrick Herrera Pogba is my preference going forward. Balance of control, engine and... Pogba. - Mata is still doing a great job despite nominally being on the right wing. Him cutting in with Tony bombing down the touchline is outstanding. - the back 4, makeshift though they may be, looked solid enough. Good job Jose for bringing Darmian off, he wasn't going to see out the 90.

                                            MOTM: Tough. Tony looked good on his return, and Mata played very well, but Herrera was everywhere tonight, so he's it for me.

                                            [–]MsGroves 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Last 10 minutes were tragic, we invited them to our half. Also, though it was a good performance overall, there's no desire to win games. Take a look at the last 2-3 minutes, players didn't even want to win it. Sad. Can't see us getting CL football next season, we need to produce something special in order to get it.

                                            [–]House_Of_LannisterAnd who are you...? 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Tells me everything that, I left work 30 mins ago or something and we were 1-0 and I just knew with those last 15 minutes left (which is the time it takes to get home), Id be disappointed with the result the minute I walk through the door...

                                            Boom 1 fucking 1...

                                            Happened last season with the final West Ham game as well...

                                            Sorry Lads.

                                            [–]ShacharPollak 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            most frustrating shit ever. This feels worse than our losses.

                                            [–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            We need to stop trying to close out games at 1-0

                                            [–]Giotardward(E+Woo) 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            killing myself

                                            [–]Feeltherealness 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                            This is bullshit. United played so well up to that Giroud goal. Well I guess it gives some hope at least, since United did almost everything right for 88 minutes or so. And Carrick should start pretty much every game.

                                            [–]TheRedDevil10 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            This game was revenge for that robbery at the Emirates 2 seasons ago

                                            [–]Rambo247365 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            I think Blind could be a good deputy in that position when Carrick needs the inevitable rest. He was RELIABLE as a DM For van gaal

                                            [–]ProgRddts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Can someone tell me why Phil Jones always defend corners with his back towards the man? how is he suppose to win any headers...

                                            [–]_ninjaslayer 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            I feel really down about this. I really do like our team now, hopefully some of our players pick up form (eg: Martial, Mkhi)..would be a good squad for the rest of the season. Dont know if its enough for top 4 given our start though.

                                            [–]tulto580 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            All I can see is the positives, Valencia is a beast, pogba is starting to show up and Herrera is just world class. We played well and we're just unlucky. I'm starting to get the feeling that this line up and team can win a premier league.

                                            [–]redberg12 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Mata truly is a great player, maybe he wont ever be a top-scorer but he will always be a top-player. His link up play together with Zlatan and pogba when they are all on are AMAZING. And he's everywhere and is playing smart.

                                            Together with Zlatan / Pogba, the trio they can do amazing things now when (hopefully) zlatans no-goal curse is broken.

                                            [–]Rambo247365 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            He also plays well with Ander Herrera.

                                            Honestly I think the quartet of Carrick, Ander, Mata And Pogba do well together and control the midfield really well. We need shaw to fulfill his potential and Valencia to play like he did today and we will have a solid core

                                            [–]StarLordOMTHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            how did Jones and Rojo do?

                                            [–]Rambo247365 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Rojo did really well in my opinion. Jones was also decent, made a couple mistakes, one silly run on the ball in the first half and losing possession. Then bring too weak in attacking the ball in the air for the goal we conceded.

                                            [–]StarLordOMTHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Apparently I didn't need to be concerned.

                                            [–]SammyMcIlroy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            There wasn't much for them to do, but the equaliser was a cross into the box and any time your opponent scores with a header in that situation it has to be on the centrebacks

                                            [–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Gotta have one helluva Christmas and second half of the season

                                            [–]daveyp2tm[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            We played pretty well, deserved to win really. Jones needs to stay in his feet. I'd question mourinho's subs. Wengers subs get a goal and an assist, Mou goes the the uninspiring addition of blind and schneiderlin. Where's micky.

                                            [–]Prokletnost 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Damn it, we needed this!

                                            [–]SmashableGamerPOGBA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Positivity time, at least we played well and showed with that lineup we can dominate teams.

                                            [–]kaoticreapzRashgod 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Are Smalling and Shaw back next week?

                                            [–]DatGuyRichValencia[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Shaw yes

                                            Smalling dont think so

                                            [–]Smaggies 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Why take off Mata? Why give them all the territory?

                                            [–]PDubsinTF 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Overall a stellar performance. Got men behind the ball on defense to avoid the counter, players swarming to the ball. I think Miki would have been a great sub to help maintain possession when Mata's legs were done. Several times we have taken a defensive shape in the final 10' to protect the game and given a late goal. When you look at a real, a barca, even city, their late subs will still help them maintain possession and close the game out. Instead we are packing the box and trying to clear balls. Our mentality closing out games should be to dominate possession and control, rather than cross our fingers and hope the crosses are cleared.

                                            [–]caenoviceRashford 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            United boss the game, create chances, good passes throughout. Excellent linkup to score the goal.

                                            On the other hand, Arsenal consider themselves to be title contenders this season, and score from their only shot on goal.

                                            What do I do now? Should I laugh it off? Cry out of frustration? I might need therapy..

                                            [–]TheRedDevil10 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Juan Mata will be our Player of the Season.

                                            [–]goal_matoal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Why invite pressure by sitting deep in the last 10 mins. This isn't a team to win 1-0 yet.

                                            [–]AnthonymarkersHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            I find it kind of funny. Jose is the pragmatist but LVG the idealist. But somehow we got the scrappy 1-0 wins under LVG by playing like shit, and the frustrating draws where we dominate under Jose

                                            [–]princessvaginaalphaPark Ji-Sung 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            look at Giroud, what a great balance shown after his goal... someone umped onto his back from the side, and all he did was side stepping without any lost of balance.. didn't slouch or even dropped the tiniest bit.

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