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A final goodbye from What.CD (twitter.com)

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[–]qntoine 120ポイント121ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just want to pay homage to the staff who chose to press the kill switch to keep all user data safe at the price of losing everything they had built over the years. Putting the community's real interest first, no matter what the price is. Whatever you may say, I think they handled the situation perfectly given the options they had in hand. That is some serious dedication and a lesson for us all to remember.

Today I mourn an amazing tracker, run by a fantastic staff, and its incredible community. This was my entry gate to the private tracker world, and I still fondly remember taking the interview. I failed the first time, got in the second one. And I couldn't believe what a world of wonders just opened up in front of my eyes on that day. Filling up requests, I eventually made it to Power user, built a huge buffer with freeleech events. And eventually, that was my gateway to join other great trackers. Back to square point.

Today the King is dead. But I also rejoice in the idea that this will pave the way for a new, safer, and who knows, may better, tracker for all music enthusiasts.

RIP What, and thank you for the dance. The King is dead, long live the King!

[–]xQer 61ポイント62ポイント  (15子コメント)

Anyone still on denial phase refreshing the main site?

[–]Grunef 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've still got Oink in my bookmarks. Still look at it every so often.

[–]iceberg67 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

:) I try thebox.bz occasionally

[–]Lolla-Lee-Lou[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

Pretty much :(

[–]olyu 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

New tab, press w, :(

[–]Misterbreadcrum 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This action has been part of my morning routine for years now. I did it 3 times today and pouted a little each time.

[–]orwiad10 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey, your that forum mod girl!

[–]Lolla-Lee-Lou[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's me :P

[–]orwiad10 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think recognize you user name from twitter or lastfm...

[–]nicbrown 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

The bookmark will never leave my toolbar.

[–]9delta9 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Firefox caches pages when it shuts down or something, I clicked on my whatcd tab and it showed the last loaded content.

I was able to see the beauty one last time.

I was one of the volunteers. I'm sad to see it go. I hope the community picks up elsewhere.

[–]sumoneelse 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

My god. Seeing it again just hits me in the gut.

[–]mr-nix 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

same. i cant bring myself to close the tab :(

[–]i_am_platypud 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I must have refreshed a hundred times yesterday. Today I just cried.

[–]powercorruption 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I clicked the bookmarked favicon this morning out of force of habit.

[–]Marenum 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've had it set as my homepage for years. I honestly have no idea what to make my homepage now.

[–]juicymooCA 62ポイント63ポイント  (3子コメント)

Backup of Gazelle from their (what.cd) github just in case it gets deleted: https://mega.nz/#!VJEyVQaR!HNyYxFDZR8Yfqsdt7wEqF_3lwmdUCaFRxxD-d32wZBU

[–]Dafuq_McKwak 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

https://github.com/WhatCD/Gazelle/blob/master/gazelle.sql

Seems like they keep all info in one database, mixing user info and music library metadata. That means there's a pretty big probability that the music metadata was wiped together with user data.

[–]palmsiberia 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Which is very sad. The library itself, the information, was so incredibly vast. If that data was still intact it alone would be so very useful.

At the moment I just don't know where I can get information about artists, releases and genres that are not mainstream in one organized place.

We were complacent and took all that for granted. And now it's gone.

[–]fel4 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't you know discogs?

[–]theboatleft 35ポイント36ポイント  (5子コメント)

I wonder what would have artists thought of What.CD if they knew about it. If they knew about the super curated discographies, countless preserved versions of an album, perfect vinyl digitization and immense catalog all tributes of what music means to people.

What.CD was something beyond piracy. When you have 12 versions of an AC/DC album, each uploaded from people all around the world trying to preserve the sound they enjoy. The original vinyl release carefully digitized, the 2000s mastered digital version, the 2010s re-mixed version using the original recordings, each preserved for everyone. That's not something the record labels are offering.

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It is truly sad that it has come to this. The next thing that comes around, hopefully even more secure to avoid things like this happening ever again, I will definitely make sure to contribute in the same manner I did with WCD and help rebuild.

[–]nascentt 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Trent reznor knew. He was a user of it.

[–]playingwithfire 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Others knew too. I distinctly remember The World is...'s lead singer uploading Harmlessness and getting all that sweet sweet ratio. First comment was "wait? Derrick?"

[–]lip_twitch 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reznor?

[–]fabhellier 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trent Reznor knew about it. He sung its praises very publicly.

[–]Hackerpcs 87ポイント88ポイント  (15子コメント)

A truly proper goodbye! I hope WCD serves as a model for whatever comes next as it says!

[–]SDSunDiego 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is something really genuine about the leadership at What.CD. Connecting with what was said about OiNK and how WCD transitioned into their role after OiNK, it was almost as a passing of the guard.

Sadly, I believe that this is the last of the greats from a massive popularity standpoint ('underground' those are quotes). OiNK and WCD have left their mark in history and more importantly, filled a gap that the commercial industry had not addressed. But, the commercial industry has changed (since OiNK and WCD) and continues to change.

We will see hydras from WCD but I don't believe it will be the same (regards to user popularity) and that could truly be a blessing because the hardcore, like some of us, can truly build a archive system that could match or exceed WCD (without the law). The issue is that we need the random public to upload great content that most elite uploaders don't have access too.

OiNK/WCD was great because of those one off album uploads.

[–]frogdoubler 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Technology has changed a lot since 2007. Decentralized services are now more abundant and easier to deploy than ever.

[–]Sparkybear 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is it not possible for all what users to add open bit torrent or similar trackers to their torrent files in an attempt to archive the material? At the very least we don't have to lose an archive of that quality and that size if they are able to do that.

[–]PM_Poutine 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are a few problems with that approach. There would then be torrents that were forced to adhere to strict standards for quality mixed with improperly labelled 128kbps MP3s. Finding what one wants would also be more difficult because the search/browse functions and how the metadata is displayed on common public trackers isn't as effective as how What managed it. Public trackers are also a bit less secure than private ones which some people might not be comfortable with.

The other thing that was lost was the community. The forums were filled with discussions that just wouldn't be the same on a public site.

It would still be better than nothing, of course, but I'm hoping another site dedicated to music, run by people with similar values comes along in the near future.

[–]Sparkybear 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, but it's not really for anything other than archiving purposes at this point. Just to ensure that the data isn't lost. Searching isn't really needed at the moment until another site is created to fill that gap.

I mean,a torrent archiving site, just the torrent file, may actually be very useful for situations like this in the future so that what a site goes down it's not lost forever. The idea needs to be fleshed out, but I see it as mitigating the damages of losing your servers.

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    [–]Arsspeak 50ポイント51ポイント  (11子コメント)

    This has been a bad year

    [–]omnicron1 21ポイント22ポイント  (10子コメント)

    this has been a god damn awful year.

    [–]Arsspeak 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Yea. Many people die. Trump got to be president and now this.

    Wait, Kat also shutdown this year right?

    [–]RealityRush 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Kat also shutdown this year right?

    Yes. Truly, dark days.

    [–]johnnyrd 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

    And blackcats games, and gazelle games :( stay strong pass the popcorn please.

    [–]datdramadoe 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

    TV trackers have mostly been untouched... hoping that stays that way

    [–]architrave 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I will probably cry if BTN goes down

    [–]SuperHornetFA18 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Gazelle GE's Irc is up so hopes are there

    [–]PM_Poutine 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    SciHD is going away soon too. :(

    [–]najodleglejszy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    and torrentz

    [–]BillohRly 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    David Bowie RIP. :(

    [–]ClutchHunter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Also Brexit vote.

    [–]LilPossat 68ポイント69ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Man, it feels weird getting so emotional over just a website, but it feels like I'm losing something truly special in my life. Is it raining? I think it's raining

    [–]i_am_platypud 20ポイント21ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I feel the same way. I've been a part of it since it's first few weeks of existence. I just sat in bed last night staring at the ceiling wondering how I am going to find new music. And being that I'm not really any part of any other sites, I don't know how I'd ever get an invite to a new tracker if they ever arise.

    [–]whoami9 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It was more than just a website. It was the largest repository of music in human history. I wonder if history will even bother recording that it existed at all. The world of music got a little darker yesterday. Most people didn't notice, but it did.

    [–]lip_twitch 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You don't truly think this is the end though, right? There is a void to be filled, and someone will fill it. Oink was shut down, and what.cd rose. What.cd was shut down, and I'll put my money that something else is in the works right now.

    [–]I_want_GTA5_on_PC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes, and hopefully something that can't be just destroyed by a government raid but is more secure. Something that can be easily backed up by any member, maybe a torrent backup refreshing every 6 months.

    [–]theincredulousbulk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You aren't alone in feeling that way my friend.

    [–]squarezero 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    In my opinion it was much more than a website. It will always be missed.

    [–]Maezel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I was feeling down all day long... It was more than a website. I discovered so much good music and bands there. I don't know where I will keep discovering stuff now, and even less get perfect rips.

    Anyways... something new will appear eventually.

    [–]SquareBall84 183ポイント184ポイント  (52子コメント)

    I am truly heartbroken. The portion of humanity behind the demise of arguably the greatest music resource of all time really have their priorities so utterly wrong. When did profit become more important than culture and the arts? I can only hope that one day we'll be seen to be on the right side of history.

    [–]hdjunkie 48ポイント49ポイント  (10子コメント)

    I just used it to steal music

    [–]taquitochocolatemilk 31ポイント32ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Yeah but if the music wasn't available to purchase anywhere else is it really stealing?

    If the music has been out of print for decades. Is that stealing?

    [–]taquitochocolatemilk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah but if the music wasn't available to purchase anywhere else is it really stealing?

    If the music has been out of print for decades. Is that stealing?

    [–]bananafreesince93 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Stealing and copying are two completely separate actions.

    I know you're just a troll, but please, lets use proper nomenclature regardless.

    [–]LeviPerson 67ポイント68ポイント  (32子コメント)

    You seem to be suffering from /r/LateStageCapitalism.

    I recommend a daily dose of /r/Socialism.

    [–]SquareBall84 37ポイント38ポイント  (20子コメント)

    Watch out, we got a commie on our hands folks. If we're not careful they'll build an equal society!

    I'm quite on board with you already :)

    [–]LeviPerson 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I might cry. :')

    [–]RGBherb420 0ポイント1ポイント  (18子コメント)

    Too bad commies have literally never built a successful society. I'm sure next time will be peachy though!

    [–]kvaks 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

    WCD was a nice little society.

    [–]RGBherb420 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

    It was a file-sharing site, not a country, get real. And if it were communist it would be ratio-less.

    [–]thejoe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think it would be ratio-less to be honest. "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

    Is free access to music a need? Or is it more of a 'luxury good' that might require some form of social capital or social credit gain access to? A good way of measuring that social credit might be an up/down ratio.

    [–]kvaks -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Sure. I still think it's worth noting that communities can work when cooperation and sharing are the main motivators, not self-interest and profit. And that's a lesson I truly believe can be applied to a much larger degree (but not necessarily fully) at the level of government (country, state, municiality, whatever) than it currently is.

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      [–]Lopps 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      It's hard to not feel bitter when you're a part of something beautiful and it is destroyed by capitalism.

      [–]cryptozoolog1st 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Eventually everything seems to be destroyed by Capitalism. At this point I'm just waiting for the Earth to kill off the human race.

      [–]LeviPerson 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It'll be capitalism that does that too.

      [–]mr_abomination 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

      At this point /r/FULLCOMMUNISM is needed

      [–]Cuddly_Wumpums 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

      nah those tankies can fuck right off. i'd rather have /r/COMPLETEANARCHY.

      [–]dreamingawake09 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Why can't all us lefties just get along? :(.

      [–]6688 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

      The infighting at least appears to be a bunch of people proving to each other who is more in line with the ideology, "holier than thou" type posturing. Which figurehead of the left "really got it right" and if you're not subscribed to that specific subculture you're just a statist or a wannabe.

      [–]amusha 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      the left obsessed with being right, who would have known?

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        [–]Cuddly_Wumpums 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        i dunno. maybe ask makhno.

        [–]jaybee1414 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Overregulation and corruption (ie crony capitalism) is the problem. Capitalism gives people choice. Company offers good product and service, they succeed. They don't, they fail. Under the current system the government protects large companies from having to actually have a good product or service. That's not capitalism at all.

        [–]zero_hope_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Damnit. Any ideas where to go next? :(

        [–]SquareBall84 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Gonna reply to you for info's sake and just as a sort of reference/guide to myself aswell.

        Waffles is the obvious one if (probably when) it comes back up

        LosslessClub have some stuff, haven't really gone browsing too much

        Libble apparently has some stuff and were sending out PMs inviting people; haven't received one myself so don't know what it's like :(

        Pedro's

        Indietorrents maybe, haven't really tried to get in as of yet though

        Torrentech for house/techno, again haven't really tried to get in

        themixingbowl (for DJ mixes afaik) maybe when they open signups again

        DEEPBASSNiNe for underground DnB/UK garage etc, notoriously difficult to get into

        Lossless Legs is a bootleg tracker, they've an open signup atm

        RuTracker then on the public side of things, which actually has a good amount of stuff from what.cd itself as I understand (editing to add it's in Russian)

        Soulseek is worth figuring out as well imo, I've actually used it in the past to get stuff I couldn't find on what.cd

        Then I suppose it's just the other not-so-shit public ones:

        The Pirate Bay

        ExtraTorrent

        SoundPark

        Here's a link to the last tracker flowchart published on this subreddit for handiness' sake

        [–]wantonballbag 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        When did profit become more important than culture and the arts?

        Decades if not centuries ago. The problem is when did such a small amount of profit become more important than culture and the arts? They will make an extra few million from this maybe. Divided among many atop of hundreds of millions more.

        The sacrifice of course will be the most consummate collection of music the world has ever known.

        [–]Astrognome 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

        They probably lost money from this.

        Most of the music I bought I pirated first. Now they've taken away my primary way to discover music so I don't see myself buying much until I find a new site.

        [–]ItalianKitten 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well said.

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          [–]cynicallist 42ポイント43ポイント  (10子コメント)

          It feels like a friend has died, not that a website is no longer online.

          [–]kyousaya4life 19ポイント20ポイント  (9子コメント)

          Incidentally, I actually have an old friend who I could only communicate with over what.cd PM. Every year or so one of us will message the other and we'll catch up. Guess that's not going to happen anymore.

          [–]cynicallist 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

          That's terrible. You didn't exchange emails or anything like that? :(

          [–]kyousaya4life 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

          We actually had exchanged emails at one point, and they were both Lavabit, which also got abruptly and unjustly killed. I still know her old username so I guess I can look out for it on other sites, but it seems unlikely.

          [–]porksandwich9113 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Oh man that sucks. :/

          You could try finding them on IRC, the #what-refuge channel on p2pnetwork. There's well over a thousand people there right now.

          http://www.p2p-network.net/

          I had a small community of friends in a channel on what-network IRC, several of us found one another and have re-created out channel on p2pnet.

          [–]EverybodyScram 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I've been trying to connect a coupe times over the last couple days. Has the channel been down?

          [–]ColdChemical 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Take heart, I managed to track down someone I only talked to through what, you might too!

          [–]Misterbreadcrum 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Same. One day I believe we'll all come together again. I look forward to that day.

          [–]Hiccup 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Yes. Same here. Several actually.

          [–]LeviPerson 64ポイント65ポイント  (11子コメント)

          Fuck the police.

          [–]dogwood81 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Sting wasn't THAT bad.

          [–]kyousaya4life 20ポイント21ポイント  (8子コメント)

          An album I never would have heard if not for what.cd

          [–]Kassmir 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

          Really? NWA was pretty well known.

          [–]solarspeed 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Not everyone lives in USA. Americans vastly overestimate the influence and widespread of their older music outside of their continent.

          [–]Kassmir 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I'm not American either, but I am stuck in that phase of life where 1988 wasn't very long ago, so I've never really considered it older music.

          In hindsight, Wright has been dead for 21 years, but it still seems more recent than that.

          [–]kyousaya4life 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I was born after their dissolution though.

          [–]Kassmir 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Ah, that will account for it. Understandable.

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            [–]fora-mejora 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            ACAB

            [–]Stoogles 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

            God, I still can't believe it. I was listening to my campus' radio station today and heard a track I really dug. Waited for the DJ to say who it was and everything. Then it actually hit, the gettin' place, the one and only for me as far as music goes, is no more. Rest in peace, what. I know many people feel the same as I do. I miss you already. It was an absolute honor to be a part of the site. As many of you have said (very accurately, in my opinion), it was so much more than a tracker. The what community was a family to me, a community I was incredibly privileged to be part of.

            Alas, que finito. RIPPY in peace, my friend. ❤️

            [–]Misterbreadcrum 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Yes this is what happened to me today. Techs radio station started playing some cool jazz, and for the first time in several years, I realized I probably wouldn't be able to get ahold of it without a significant amount of effort, and I certainly wouldn't be able to find its contemporaries, or see what else on the label was good. Gah.

            [–]Supersnazz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            soulseek and wikipedia will probably help you out.

            [–]TheLastFreeMan 28ポイント29ポイント  (6子コメント)

            It's time to rebuild

            [–]Hiccup 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

            I remember when the pink palace went down we instantly went into rebuild mode and it started first with some on tpb before what/food site came around. This time it seems like a lot of what (some of the files) is on rutracker, just search with that in your engine of choice /on the site . Thank goodness some people put that in the description, so you can basically guarantee the quality (not saying that there are transcodes or anything, but it gives a little peace of mind and helps to find the files /build the library faster ). Thank goodness rutracker is around right now as a moderate back up.

            [–]commitme 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Let this be a reminder to folks that rutracker is there and decent and worth using.

            Let it also be a reminder that rutracker will not always be there. Nothing lasts forever.

            [–]harbinger_one 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            That's what I've been using this whole time since I can't be bothered with private trackers. If that goes It'll hit me as hard as what.cd did for most of you guys. Fuuuuuck. franticly downloads everything

            [–]mr-nix 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

            but i cant read russian

            [–]withmorten 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            You really don't need to for most. Just search, click the filesize to DL the torrent, and use google translate for everything you can't read.

            [–]mr-nix 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            gladly rebuild

            [–]HioZukitori 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Farewell my friends.

            What.CD was the single greatest thing on the net.

            To everyone who made it possible, thank you for the ride. It will forever be cherished.

            [–]Cannon_Drill 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            As sad as I am over this, I will be way more devastated when it finally happens to PTP and/or BTN. That said, What.CD was a fucking gem. It is so sad that there isn't even an effort being made to make an all-inclusive library of music available commercially. People want one place to download/stream all music, discover new artists, get/give recommendations, etc., and they will pay a fair price for it. Instead, we get fragmented bullshit, low quality, missing albums, and corporate greed. I found stuff on What.CD that I literally could not find ANYWHERE else, physical or digital.

            [–]Astrognome 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I don't think BTN is at much risk.

            There isn't nearly as much legal protection surrounding TV as there is music. Plus it's a good bit more exclusive than wcd ever was.

            [–]Socuta 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

            Good bye, my friends. I'll drink a parting glass tonight.

            See you all down the road.

            [–]RealityRush 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

            My god that song is tearing my heart to pieces right now.

            ...I'm crying over a website. Years of work, of dedication, gone in an instant. The blood, sweat, and tears of millions of users. Love of culture, love of music, love of history, all in one place. All because of what? Record companies that needed that extra 0.1% on their bottom line? We lost one of the single largest cultural repositories in history, over money.

            I discovered so many artists through WhatCD. I went to their concerts, I bought their merch, I shared them with friends, and now what? Now the dream is lost with the simple press of a button; we're all lesser for it.

            I'm not a religious person, but I still pray that we can recover from this and build another great community. I've kept my hundreds of torrents seeded since I joined What years ago, and I keep them up still, even with that sad red mark telling me they can find their homes no longer. I pray that one day, I may be able to share them again with others.

            If any of you WhatCD mods/admins/contributors are reading this, I salute you. You were a wonderful piece of light in this oft dark world, and we will carry your flame forward if you can no longer stand to hold it yourselves. You will all be deeply missed, as will your legendary work. You should be proud of your contribution to society, no matter what your detractors say. I wish you all the best, and thank you from the very bottom of my heart for years of joy and discovery.

            [–]Socuta 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            There's a lot that I could say, but I think the most important thing is to stay in the fight. What.cd showed that the internet can take us farther in our creative endeavours than we've ever been able to go, and as long as the passion to collaborate and create these works still exists, we'll get there again.

            Think big and remember that the internet is humanity's greatest invention. Its potential to develop our culture is still not entirely known. Defy anyone who seeks to put limits on it, and remember the possibilities.

            [–]LilPossat 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Beautiful song. Thank you for sharing!

            [–]nascentt 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Beautiful song. Let me go download it from what... Oh wait

            [–]JonasBrosSuck 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

            little off topic but is that written in latex? looks so good

            [–]ThisIs_MyName 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Looks like it. LaTeX is really good at deciding where to break lines.

            [–]JonasBrosSuck 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            and very clean edges too! it looked so good that it made it sadder to read :'(

            [–]ItalianKitten 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

            This is so sad.

            [–]TheSeedKing 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

            WHAT. WHY?

            [–]Bur_Sangjun 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

            French copyright and music police raided them

            [–]JonasBrosSuck 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            the tweet before the final tweet said that servers being seized were not true, is it possible to raid without seizing anything?

            [–]tmstms 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Well, for example, they could be servers that what was renting or renting a part of and be a link in a chain that led to actually relevant info.

            It's widely supposed that when the alarm was triggered, so to speak, what pulled the plug, broke the links, however you choose to metaphor it.

            So things were clearly seized, just not what the authorities are saying was seized.

            [–]dessalines_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Capitalism.jpg

            [–]robotboy199 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I actually remember seeing WCD a few years ago and considering taking the interview.

            Regretting the shit out of not doing that now.

            [–]Rick_Proza 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

            took the interview just 3 weeks ago aand now it's gone. But I saw the amount of data there and now looking forward to see a successor and become a part of the new community

            [–]ThisIs_MyName 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I wonder what the successor will be.

            There aren't many trackers dedicated to music.

            [–]I_JUST_LOVE_UR_BRAIN 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Was it illegal? Sure. Was it a marvel of man? Yep. It really should have been a catalyst for change in the music industry. Sure, Spotify and Pandora have sparked change, but they didn't do what What.CD was able to.

            We, the people, want what we want, in the format we want, when we want it. Pity that has never been understood. Tremendous loss.

            I pray for another innovative idea to come along that can capture and empower a community of diverse people like What.CD did.

            [–]fuckinlovecats 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            We wonder, and some Hunter may express

            Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness

            Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,

            He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess

            What powerful but unrecorded race

            Once dwelt in that annihilated place.

            R.I.P. What.CD

            [–]Plasma_000 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

            Does anyone know how many music files/songs What.CD ended up tracking?

            [–]Ninja_Fox_ 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

            2.7 Million torrents

            [–]crotchrotcadaver 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            At one point they posted reaching over 1,000,000 unique music releases.

            [–]dhusu 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

            millions

            [–]Plasma_000 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Any more specific numbers?

            [–]dhusu 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Nope, someone out there might have a screenshot of the stats though

            [–]wtfiswrongwithit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What.CD has some stats from a few hours before going down

            [–]iwearhotpants 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I remember when oink left us. I was 16 and cried in anger that people in power cared more about bullshit than the preservation of all that categorised and meticulously maintained music.

            i was lucky enough to get into what during the first month. it grew so much over the years. it surpassed oink and became truly the greatest archive of music of all time. and now, just like oink before it, it too has left us.

            whatever comes next will build on the grand tradition these places left behind. I look forward to that future and will always remember its past.

            it all sounds a bit dramatic, to legitimately mourn the end of a website, but to everyone who was there and shared the music and community knows what I mean.

            thank you, what.cd for everything you did for music and art and community and preservation! no other source that the powers that be have come close to even touching what you achieved.

            thank you. thank you!

            [–]MeowHD34 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

            With all the tracker closings lately, I agree with John Oliver: FUCK YOU 2016!

            [–]B3Lz3bUb 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            First of all this event must remind everybody again about how much fluid environment the piracy community lives in. Regardless of shared desire to continue this extraordinary project in some form, here's an clearly unexceptionable and discouraging fact that despite how much talented, smart and skilled the site leaders were, it still wasn't enough to ensure the tens or hundreds thousands humanohours of hard work won't suddenly vanish in seconds due unpredictable outside factors. There's no survival plan except build everything from scratch on the same fluid grounds.

            [–]DahhBruins 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Seriously public interviews did us in. Invites should have been closed YEARS ago:

            [–]Klappis82 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I knew it many years ago that they back then was already too big for their own good.

            [–]relbatnrut 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            But that's part of what was great about what.cd. It was accessible to anyone who cared enough about music to find it. It would have been a less beautiful project if it was completely private.

            [–]BeerxBitches 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Tears.exe ran out of space :(

            [–]ViceroysNorth[🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            I was a member on What for just over 6 years. It was my first foray into private trackers, and served as my launching point onto several others. While I still use some others, no other trackers went beyond being just that: a tracker. On the other hand, What became much more for me. It was a community that I participated in, and an endless way to discover new music. By the end, I had achieved the rank of Torrent Master, and took pride in trying to actively search for new music to share with the wonderful community.

            It is a truly sad day for me. But it was one hell of a ride while it lasted.

            [–]lip_twitch 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            What.cd wasn't just a torrent site, it was an incredibly deep catalog - it was the Library of Alexandria of music.

            If the people behind what.cd come out with a new tracker, it should be called alexandria.

            [–]Deathcrow 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            I'm still devastated. Can't believe something so beautiful was destroyed just because of greed

            [–]Supersnazz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Those who destroyed it argued that greed created it.

            [–]Sakako 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I'm not entirely sure what happened to WCD but I really can't stress how glad I was to be part of a community that just wanted to share the rarest music in the best quality. Life isn't going to be the same without you guys.

            [–]Sulako 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I love you What, and I love all the people who put countless hours into making it the best music tracker on the planet. I cried a little.

            [–]viperware 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            On a positive note, I no longer have a sub 0.5 ratio.

            [–]gprime 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

            In this history of piracy, this is the second greatest loss behind the closure of Library.nu in 2014.

            [–]realslimshamus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WiT-c3NA0M

            [–]mr_marble_man 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Fucking beautiful. I felt feels, i felt the feels..

            [–]Otadiz 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

            So what happened?

            [–]Infinity_Wasted 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            you probably read it elsehwere but heres the dig: french police seized their frontends and with those servers the police could find where the data was staying maybe even in hours. nsteada risking us users they hit the killswitch. sall gone but were safe. time to rebuild.

            [–]iwishiwassleeping 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            This is what did it for me... absolutely fucking tear-jerking. I just don't want to believe it's gone. What a ride. Thanks for everything <3

            [–]FKAjojooo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Classy post. Thank you What.CD for everything.

            [–]Arquee 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I don't want to believe that all the data was deleted irretrievably. I hope what.cd's admins know how to avoid keep all eggs in one basket. I hope all the data was saved on admin's personal hard-drives and using these data what.cd will be reanimated sooner or later. I don't want to say goodbye. It's too sad for thousands people to be true.

            [–]flac934kbps 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Just had to mention how horrible this is, but sadly, I'm enough of a cynic to know it was just a matter of time until this happened (again). I remember joining oink about 6 months before this happened there, and after 8 years at What, here we are, once again. I remember thinking nothing could replace oink. and now I think nothing will ever replace what. Hope I'm wrong, again. It was a wonderful place and I'm so happy I was a part of it. Thank you What.cd for everything. I'm going to miss you

            [–]subrosianity 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Why are people content to just say goodbye? How could the moderators be so irresponsible to to not at least secure the metadata somewhere? Not even a warning. I'm sorry but it feels like more could have been done.

            [–]funkymoves91 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            At one point, they probably had to make a very quick decision between keeping the data and putting themselves and the users at risk, or just deleting everything...

            [–]JerichoMaxim 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            It's not like there's anything anyone can do about it at this point, so why be anything other than thankful?

            [–]Infinity_Wasted 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            the owners had to make a choice: user safety, or the data. it was only a matter of time, hours maybe, before the location of the data server would found. if they hadnt deleated the data then all of the power users, blokes who were uploading hundreds of albums and there were thousands of peeps like that on the site, and all the other core users would be put at risk of prisontime or hundreds of thousands of doles in fines per person. im angry and upset too but tey did the right thing by us.

            [–]ThisIs_MyName 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I'm sure they had a backup of the music/torrent metadata.

            [–]B0FF1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Stay under the radar and avoid mentions anything in various unlinked forums and social media this is what happens when new generation of complacent kids come through, twitter facebook and shitty public forums. RIP What, from the DPS.

            [–]mypasswordisdumb[🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Damn, and I had 12 FL tokens to use.

            [–]mujiq 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Who the fuck cares about lost tokens?

            [–]mypasswordisdumb[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Obviously it pales in comparison to the real loss.

            [–]AllThatIsSolidMelts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            too much to handle in a week, too much

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            [–]Monsieur_Krabs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            F

            [–]knice111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            sheds many tears

            i remember what.cd...

            [–]Jmandem 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Devastating :(

            [–]paladin10025 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Holy wow. :(

            [–]IshaanG12 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            It's a terrible day for rain.

            [–]ext23 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I was never a member. I feel like I missed out on something awesome. Hopefully whatever comes next is just as good... But it's a long way back to rebuild something so huge.

            [–]priamos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            and now the website is completely gone... :(

            [–]hautdoge 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            This has been the saddest week in a while for me. Im gonna miss what.cd.

            [–]kalamoony 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            who can believe that one if the greateset site is died !!!! ... oh how we will miss u WCD :'( Farewell

            [–]Nullianak 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I'm not crying, you're crying. It's raining. It's snowing, it's anything, but I'm not crying.

            [–]flamingjoints 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            The Phish and Dead shows, I feel sick just thinking about it

            [–]brokendrecord 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Fuck!

            [–]kingkolton9 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            A lot of onions in my room, and I haven't even been on What for more than a year. Just the fact that such a massive archive was killed because of some fuck wanting to make a quick buck disgusts me.

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