Why MGTOW is Bullsh**

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I see more and more guys around here saying they are MGTOW. So let's clear up some things.

Men Go Their Own Way

Fuck me, that sounds powerful! And all the guys who are saying that, they say it in a proud way. You'd think this is a strong organisation, you'd think this is some big tough masculine movement.

Sadly, it could not be further from the truth.

Let's break it down:
M - Men

Misleading from the first word. There are no men in this group. Just because somebody is male, doesn't mean he is a man. That's something I hope most people already know. And these guys are not men in any possible way. They are little whiny bitches. Reminded again, of the story of The Fox And The Grapes, this is what they are doing. They are too weak to achieve even some average results, so they give up and go cry. Is that a man? I know society changed a lot, but that will never be a man. Men get shit done.

G - Go


Again - misleading. Go implies some sort of movement. But these guys aren't going anywhere. There is no end goal. There is no purpose. The only difference is that now, instead of bothering other girls who don't want them, they are gonna ignore those same girls.... who still don't want them! How lame is that?

T and O - Their Own

Partially true, partially bullshit. Their Own would imply that it's something they chose. While it's more the only thing they could do. They weren't intelligent, or strong enough, or whatever to achieve what they wanted, so instead of admitting they are the ones who are fucked up, they decided to blame 3500000000 people instead. How retarded is that? You have to be in serious denial to think that. But from another point of view, it is their own, because it's now the common name for whiny little bitches. So we will let this slide, since it's the only thing here somewhat close to the truth.

W - Way

If it wasn't sad, it would be funny. Which way is that? Chronic masturbation? Are you fucking kidding me? It's not like you have much of a choice here, there aren't 50 genders you are compatible with so you can be like "Man, I'm tired of women! ". What is your alternative? There are only 2 genders, and you are already one of them, so it leaves you with only one you are compatible with. So if you give up on that one, you are essentially left with nothing. That's not going another way, that's being a little bitch and staying in your place instead of going forward like everybody else.

So there is absolutely nothing masculine about this. It's not feminine either. It's just retarded. And there is absolutely nothing to be proud of.

Instead of being ashamed, they are proud.

But again, that's how mankind becomes better. Weak, pathetic little bitches like these are not gonna reproduce and they are not gonna spread their weak pathetic genes. So this might be even natural from a certain point of view. But that's another topic.

Yes, girls can be really hard to deal with. Especially nowadays. And for weak pathetic guys like them, it's even harder. I get where they are coming from. But that's a good thing. If girls settled for weak pussies, it would ruin us as species (again on that topic). This way girls want a man. Or at least somebody on their way to becoming one. And they are doing us a favor. Because guys have a challenge to become better, and they work on themselves in order to get a girl. They are helping us. Imagine if every nerd, loser, gamer, or whatever could get laid. Almost no guy would work on himself and we would all become retards.


So be grateful to girls. And rise up to the challenge.

Or, you know, don't. Keep being a little bitch and keep crying about how sad your life is and how girls are all bitches, and the whole world is fucked up, you are the only ones who are right. It's your life, fuck it up in whatever way you want to. But know this:

The world doesn't owe you anything. And unless you fight for what you want, you will always remain a degenerate loser.

I know I'm gonna probably get hate from these retards, and maybe a few more people. Fortunately, I don't give a fuck.

Thank you all for reading!

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What Girls Said 11

  • 6h

    If they want nothing to do with women then I don't see the big deal. Most of us probably don't want them anyways.

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  • 8h

    Great take!

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  • 9h

    I'm appalled at the bitter men, but then again it's only to be expected. You are one smart fella. Good job with this!

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    • 9h

      This take was always going to trigger people lol.

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    • 8h

      Of course :P But i suspect it's a losing battle lol.

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    • 5h

      yea he is so smart t to write bashing and using shaming tactics on a whole group of people when in reality this whole mytake is about himself

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  • 9h

    OMG I LOVE this! Very well written, and very accurate. Basically calling these guys out on their bullshit and putting things in a real perspective. And coming from a real man! You're an inspiration 😜

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  • 10h

    This was great. :D

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  • 10h

    I came for the take and now I'm staying for the bitchy blue anon comments. Like they're so proud and so ready to stand up for what they believe that they posted anonymously.

    I think you nailed this one OP.

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  • 11h

    Good one.

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  • 13h

    I don't know man... did you see all the comments calling you a feminazi? These guy are obviously soooo mature.

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  • 13h

    Perfect mytake

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  • 13h

    Well said. Perfect in fact. Ever since this acronym first emerged, I've recognized its members as persons who have painted themselves into a corner by their own actions or inactions. They've left their only means of saving face to create the badge of honor called mgtow.

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    • 11h

      Yeah but dating is unequal so why participate.

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    • 6h

      @Cosytoasty I have done both dated and did research. Millions of men globally are saying the same thing and mgtow is growing everyday. Soon the west will end up like the herbivore movement in japan where over 70% of men reject women for relationships and marriage. Birth rates are crashing down in japan.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PauK7o0-2Bo

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVbR1oI_200

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    • 5h

      Perhaps, but MrWoo99 gets to keep his home, his future income, his retirement savings and he will not be imprisoned indefinitely for inability to pay court-mandated child support.
      When all the pluses and minuses are put in their respective columns, going MGTOW is the rational course of action.
      The West will soon be similar to Japan, where a reported 60 per cent of men in the 20 to 40 age range have no interest in relationships or even sexual contact with women.
      Women have made themselves too legally dangerous, too bitchy and entitled and generally so toxic that an increasing number of rational men are walking away.
      * www.shavemagazine.com/politics/The-Soushoku-Danshi

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  • 14h

    This has to be the absolute best take I have read in ages.

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What Guys Said 36

  • 13h

    All 'labels are bullshit to be frank

    With them a means to embrace identity in an Age where so many struggle with identity

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  • 2h

    MGTOW:

    Denying women and the state their preferred methods of male disposability and cultural misandry the globe over.

    WOMEN AND THE STATE:

    This is bullsh**! We want our forced wealth and power transfer back!

    MGTOW:

    As Isoroku Yamamoto once proclaimed in dread hindsight, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant..."

    In this case, ladies, that sleeping giant is MGTOW... the powerful wake of which you've undoubtedly been exposed.

    Suck it up, buttercup.

    --MGTOW

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  • 3h

    you're wrong about everything you said basically. And the pathetic women here praising you because your take caters to them are equally misguided and wrong.

    Feminism is laughable, mgtow is not.

    Being a mgtow doesn't mean you aren't sexually active, we just realize that men are superior to women and that modern society is set up in a way as to discriminate against men to bring us down to the level of women, so things look equal on the outside. But women cannot handle living under equal circumstances, as they are weaker both mentally and physically than men, and they are designed to want men better than themselves as a way of sexual selection which is the main reason why men are better than women in first place. You hinted on this when you mentioned men improving themselves to get women because of the hypergamy instinct of women. This is a good thing sure, but without feminism the average guy would already be better than the average woman by default, now some men makes life easier for the average woman so she doesn't need the average man, and instead only wants the top percentage of men, and it is a problem for society because not enough children is being born, marriage is dying and women are becoming more unhappy since they mostly cannot have a succesful career and be a mother at the same time, and they also fail at securing a relationship with an top alpha male since there are so few of them around.

    But being mgtow doesn't mean we stop improving ourselves, we simply will fuck women but not commit to them. Avoiding marriage and relationships because the rules are set up against us. Women are bitter about this because they cannot find a man, the alpha males won't commit to them, and the average guys have stopped giving attention to women. So they feel lonely and their biological clock is ticking.

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  • 3h

    I've said before I think the whole movement is a honeypot invented by old queens to get young men to turn their backs women, and get youthful blow jobs.

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  • 3h

    MGTOW. Basically an ideal that men should not be expected to uphold to their gender roles of providing for women and living your life how you see fit. A movement where you can have sexual relationship/GF but just don't marry her.

    And yet, we have men who are so blue pilled and brain control by society they feel the need to bash it.

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  • 4h

    Just think of them all as Jeremiah Johnsons. They can't escape. Women will find ways to get to them too. They follow men EVERYWHERE.

    Why can't the sluts and a**holes ride off into the sunset and leave the decent folk alone? Stop creating all these feminists and MGTOWs.

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  • 4h

    So true. Great take!

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  • 5h

    Wow, look, a White Knight in its natural habitat.

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  • 5h

    Maybe there's a bunch of 'MGTOW' over here.

    But let's say something clear. Most of the girls over this site are the female version to this MGTOW.
    Girls who just haven't gotten any attention from 'Real' men (I would better say the stupid cool bad boy) in all her lifetime because they are also boring ➕ unattractive. Too bad, and they claim to have an interesting dating life hahaha. They are not approached!!! Come one... But then again, keep taking shots at those 'MGTOW' while the bad arrogant boy ignore you.

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  • 5h

    I was kind of with you in the beginning until you said imagine if every nerd lose or gamer could get laid. Being a 'nerd' or gamer isn't the same as being 'a loser'.

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  • 5h

    Dude your need to bash our movement says a lot of things about yourself. perhaps maybe this take is not about MGTOW but maybe its about yourself and how much you envy us because we are MAN enough to live life on our own without the need to live up to anybody else (especially women's) expectations.

    hell this quote right here pretty much sums it all up in one sentence...

    http://i.imgur.com/ztjp7uz.jpg

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  • 6h

    True in many cases, though not all.

    I also feel that everything that was said here can be said of the feminist movement.

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  • 6h

    @TheInvislbeMan, you are a blue-pill man.
    Somehow, in the convoluted and inverted place that you call a brain, you think that it is a good idea for men to sign a legal contract (marriage) that carries with it a 50 per cent probability (the current divorce rate) that they will be destroyed on the whim of a woman.
    With your mindset, there is a better-than-average probability that one day you will find yourself homeless, penniless, on a park bench and looking at spending the rest of your life in the modern version of debtors' prison, because you were unable to pay the court-mandated child support.
    It is not a rational act to enter into such a contract.
    Nor is it a rational act to interact with females, because it has become so dangerous that such interaction fails a rational cost/risk/benefit analysis.
    1. Show interest in a female: risk of sexual harassment complaint.
    2. Fail to show interest in a female: risk of false sexual harassment complaint.
    3. Date a female: risk of false rape allegation.
    4. Have consensual sex with a female: risk of false rape allegation.
    5. Refuse to have sex with a female: risk of false rape allegation.
    6. Have consensual sex with a female: risk becoming her slave for life, via count-mandated child-support payments.
    7. Marry a female: there is a 50 per cent probability that she will decide one day that that she is 'not happy', or, driven by hypergamy, she finds a better male and decides to trade up. The court will give her almost everything that you own personally and jointly, then use a child-support order to enslave you for life. In some jurisdictions, add a lifetime of spousal support payments to that happy scenario.
    TheInvisibleMan, you gave the old 'man up' speech.
    Sadly, I think that you really are that blind to the enormous dangers that interaction with women carries these days.
    I hope that you wake up, before you find yourself on that park bench.

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  • 7h

    I agree with you on this.

    Gents, as corny as it sounds... We need women in our lives. The right ones. We're all different and thus they're our complement (complement - means to complete). Instead of just seeing them as enemies, you should strive for unity and mutual assistance.

    It's only the best option. You might think you're better off by yourself, but from my experience, I can conclude that women are crucial (don't mean it in a beta/phaggoty/white knight way).

    You have to ditch that thinking where all girls or people should be sympathetic towards you and give you what you want. No, if you want to be admired by people and get what you want from them, you have to be pro-active about it and take accountability for your own shit. Look to yourself. The solution originates from you. It's not the fault of other people.

    Some of you probably allowed yourself to be exploited by women, some of you maybe met the wrong women for you (and then you conclude that all women are evil because a handful treated you like shit). But if you changed your attitude and your presence to a proper alpha-like 'Manly' state, I GUARENTEE you Brotha, that shit will never happen. If anything, YOU would be the one exploiting them.

    Whatever it is you decide, the thing is... They're always there. Women will never just disappear completely out of your life. You can either choose to treat them as distractions and enemies or to make peace and embrace what they have to offer by changing your attitude and appearance/presence.

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  • 7h

    I strongly disagree with this take.

    This is something you write when you're trying to win female approval not when you actually have an argument. Let's go over it:

    "There are no men in this group. Just because somebody is male, doesn't mean he is a man. That's something I hope most people already know. And these guys are not men in any possible way. They are little whiny bitches."

    But never once do you define what a "man" is. You just state that they are not. If this were about women and you simply said "Real women don't get abortions" that would probably be seen as outright ignorance (hopefully). But it's men so people are all aboard failing to realize the parallel.

    "Men get shit done."

    Again, "what shit?"; you see my concern is not that a person has these thoughts but that they are so poorly thought out. What constitutes any of this? Is it the number of sexual partners that makes a man a man? What "average results" are we talking about? Not meeting an average median of sexual activity, romantic activity or success in dating or what? Arbitrary.

    "Go implies some sort of movement. But these guys aren't going anywhere. There is no end goal. There is no purpose."

    First, it's "going" and second, actually they are going somewhere. The end-goal is really quite simple; to avoid gynocenctric set-ups and lose/lose situations involving the law. MGTOW exists particularly because of the marital system which men almost always lose in, and before anyone says "pre-nup!" they can actually be overturned by the court; they are literally one of the most worthless legal documents in existence.

    "they are gonna ignore those same girls... who still don't want them! How lame is that?"

    Again, a presumption, but actually many MGTOWs date and are sexually active. This falls under the same trap as the previous proposition where manliness is vague and now we have this vague jab at some unknown person who supposedly constitutes the majority of those who actually sign up under the banner of what is essentially a pseudo-civil rights movement that arose from Men's Rights with the plight of the commoner being the foremost element.

    "They weren't intelligent, or strong enough, or whatever to achieve what they wanted, so instead of admitting they are the ones who are fucked up, they decided to blame 3500000000 people instead."

    No evidence of that at all. Ironically this is on GaG which is the premier place for people who are as you describe to hang out. Continuing...

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    • 7h

      "If it wasn't sad, it would be funny. Which way is that? Chronic masturbation? Are you fucking kidding me?"

      MGTOW doesn't avoid women it avoids social contracts with women. This is the most glaring point that shows that either A) you're trolling or B) painfully ignorant on the movement itself. Even as a non-supporter I know that. No one is actually afraid of the female beast just afraid of the legal system, the female beast's being preferred no matter what and the fact that this problem is accepted as a norm and even embraced.

      "So be grateful to girls. And rise up to the challenge."

      No.

      Why exactly is it a good idea to be grateful for difficult people?

      If this is your logic, your genuine heartfelt feelings on the matter of dealing with other humans, period, your life must be shit. I mean total SHIT. I can't imagine wasting time on people who are just not agreeable regardless of their sex and especially not just FOR sex. It's why I'm fine with not having sex.

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    • 7h

      See, the myth is pretty simple here:

      You having to "rise to the challenge" would mean that you needed to provide a good argument for female approval. You didn't. You didn't at all. So either the women are dumb, the women simply applaud what is in their favor (bias) or the women feel pity on you and are accepting your existence for what it is and mating with you out of the same pity.

      I'm not even being factitious. None of this is actually true. It's a poorly constructed opinion with poorly constructed argumentation and huge glaring fallacies (of the Consequent) and assumptions about a populace that you clearly don't know about and a movement you didn't take two minutes to actually read through.

      You're probably right about at least one person but the odds that most MGTOW are actually unsuccessful basement dwelling losers who can't get sex is just unrealistic. Most humans, regardless of their attractiveness excluding deformity and infirmity, have sex. Period. It's just a fact.

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    • 5h

      Jackpot, you put Einstein to shame on this one brother!

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  • 9h

    I personally have my own opinions about MGTOW movement and the guys who subscribe to it (not a positive one), but when you start an article with You're not a "MAN" if you subscribe to such and such group you give me the impression of a baboon with a keyboard who never got a passing grade in his critical writing classes.

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  • 9h

    LOL... sooo salty. It's funny how upset people get over MGTOW.

    Like some guy gets bullied his whole life, or gets totally destroyed in divorce court so he becomes MGTOW, is that so surprising? Would you rather he kill him self?

    Don;t you get it those guys don't care about being bullied, they have become desensitized to it, when you throw shit at them you only reinforce their world view, stop being so naive and stupid about it.

    So what if some people wan't to opt out and talk shit on the internet... why is this such a big issue for so many people? !

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  • 9h

    I lost all respect for this clown the minute he said there were only 2 genders, obviously he doesn't follow the medical/psychological profession very closely, otherwise he'd know that was wrong.

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  • 9h

    Anything that doesn't make man and woman come together is bullshit

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  • 9h

    If women were as they were even into the 1970s, there would be no MGTOW. Feminism has corrupted two generations of mostly white, "educated", middle class women, making them unsuited to the "slavery" of marriage, family and children. For some men MGTOW is just a retreat and that is their choice. But my MGTOW takes the form of an uncorrupted foreign born woman, who is Christian, loves family and children and is proud of her domestic skills. Men have changed little in 10,000 years other than becoming pussified over the last 40 by having to settle for the wreakage that is modern Western women. Let them die alone cuddling up to their rabbit vibrators. And for G0d's sake, don't let them raise or teach children. Dump the lot of them for authentic women.

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    • 7h

      Problem is not all women are feminist and are agaibst it me for one its for ugly bitchs and hoes

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    • 23min

      The problem with foreign women is that as soon as they are inserted into Western society they begin to morph into the sort of narcissistic, entitled, bitchy, hypergamous women one sought to avoid.

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    • 17min

      @cth96190 your experience? Not mine.

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