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[–]reuterrat 82ポイント83ポイント  (0子コメント)

The sad thing is that this works and shows just how bad Twitter is at managing this shit.

[–]Jimonalimb 403ポイント404ポイント  (60子コメント)

I've been following where some people are creating fake accounts, copying and pasting tweets from BLM supporters and transposing the words "black" and "white." They get immediately reported and banned.

[–]CockDickington 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reading BLM tweets I'm like "man sucks to be the white guy who thinks this is allowed, cause he will be literally hitler."

[–]FresherUnderPressure 193ポイント194ポイント  (37子コメント)

Here are Anglin’s instructions for creating a fake account: “Just go on black Twitter and see what they look like, copy that model. Start filling it with rap videos and booty-shaking or whatever else these blacks post. Read through their posts to get an idea of how they post. You need to be able to post in a manner which is indistinguishable from normal black tweeters.”

They're culturally educating themselves and becoming black. How ironic

[–]Dontdielifting 123ポイント124ポイント  (1子コメント)

I saw a copypasta once in which a guy from /pol/ described talking like a black person as, "a mix between stuff I heard in rap songs and orkish from WH40k"

[–]AmazonFucker 48ポイント49ポイント  (0子コメント)

Paint it red, homeboy.

[–]YopperApe 74ポイント75ポイント  (17子コメント)

Nothing ironic about it. Soviet spies learned to become American, that wasn't ironic it was tactically smart.

[–]Balbanes42 60ポイント61ポイント  (14子コメント)

Soviet spies learned to become American, that wasn't ironic it was tactically smart.

The problem was that many of those spies truly fell in love with American culture and fully assumed their role to the point that they just lived as "Americans" from that point on. The same thing has happened with US federal agents that are planted in foreign nations for years at a time.

What I believe /u/FresherUnderPressure finds ironic is that these individuals pretending to be "black" will inadvertently become more aware of "black culture" and perhaps more accepting of it once they realize how much effort goes into hating people for no legitimate reason.

[–]noconverse 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Spies do that so that they can learn someone's secrets, what secrets are they gonna get by pretending to be black on a public website?

[–]youdoitimbusy 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

The secret password to blackpeoplemeet.com

[–]Baruch_Kleinfeld 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be perfectly honest, Anglin/Weev and a lot of figures on the alt-right are god tier trolls. Fucking god tier. You don't even have to be on the alt-right to appreciate it.

[–]black_flag_4ever 16ポイント17ポイント  (6子コメント)

Maybe they'll learn that they're wrong about being in Storm Front.

[–]ThatOneMartian 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

Twitter has contributed to the downfall of society more than any tool. Let it burn in 140 character hell.

[–]jomiran 76ポイント77ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's a crazy idea. Don't use Twitter.

[–]totalarkwar 161ポイント162ポイント  (94子コメント)

Congratulations Twitter. Who would have thought that banning people based on political affiliation doesn't work? Now instead of being able to ignore these people, we now have to wonder if an account is an alt right sock puppet.

[–]Disgusting_Advice69 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah I mean if they want the Rhineland just give them the Rhineland. I'm sure that will satisfy them completely!

[–]TimeKillerAccount 78ポイント79ポイント  (86子コメント)

Yea, should have just let them harrass people with no reprecussions ever in the first place. That would be way better.

[–]scream2breath 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good old libertarian free speech on the internet argument. Its like we're back in the 90's and no one is on this new medium to police it!

[–]guyonthissite 131ポイント132ポイント  (34子コメント)

Why not? They let left wing assholes harass with impunity.

[–]TimeKillerAccount 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

They ban them all the time when they harrass people.

[–]totalarkwar 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes, before we could ignore these 5 people that Twitter banned. Good luck ignoring or blocking thousands of sock puppet accounts.

[–]TimeKillerAccount 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ban them too. Pretty normal. Not sure why you think it cant be done.

[–]silveake 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Different from before how?

[–]EvilRethuglican 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

What do you mean it doesn't work? It seems to be working just fine. You think this cringe-as-fuck attempt by the alt right is actually "proving" anything other than how pathetic they are?

[–]DrugzkullMyndsmasha 152ポイント153ポイント  (27子コメント)

Why doesn't Twitter ban leftist accounts who promote racism,bigotry,sexism, and General gate for anyone who disagrees? Why doesn't Twitter ban BLM accounts that spew hate as well? It's funny how free speech is ok as long as you are a "victim"

[–]OccupyGravelpit 48ポイント49ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't Twitter banning for abuse, not speech?

Don't dogpile people and say whatever you want, I guarantee you won't be banned. People say awful shit 24/7. To get banned you have to antagonize other users or brigade in an organized way.

Don't believe these people when they tell you why they were banned. They're committed to lying. Anyone on Reddit playing innocent about that fact is probably guilty of that exact behavior.

[–]NoBreaksTrumpTrain 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

Woo! Twitter spat in The Guardian, super important.

[–]Sandwiches_INC 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

considering half their "news" and other MSM news is "this person said this on twitter and oh boy the reaction". Sick of it, its like high school he said she said crap.

Its so pointless other than click revenue

[–]Chappedtip 38ポイント39ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're pointing out the hypocrisy, double standards, and blatant shilling of twitter.

Over the last year twitter was shamelessly a propaganda arm of the hillary campaign and the DNC. Censorship of anything anti hillary, including the clinton foundation, DNC, and Soros leaks.... especially the leaks. They had that shit on lock down. Mass purges were a regular thing when it came to any negative info coming out.

[–]Krytan 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is why I assume all the worst stuff on Twitter is just a fake troll account pretending to be someone else to get a rise out of people.

[–]DeadHeadFred12 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

The alt-right is just a group of people who the only thing they have in common is they are on the right and they are not traditional republicans, that's it. It's one of those get as many members with slightly similar views so you have mobilization options that have an effect.

Also if someone doesn't explicitly call themselves alt-right they aren't alt-right.

[–]SANDERS4POTUS69 44ポイント45ポイント  (4子コメント)

People who care about Twitter are shameful individuals.

[–]captionquirk 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Lol it's one of the fastest ways to spread and record information to the public and is used by millions of people. Of course people care?

[–]SANDERS4POTUS69 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like caring about youtube comments, pointless.

[–]BoredMehWhatever 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Used by millions to talk shit and spread lies mostly. It's fucking toxic.

[–]Disgusting_Advice69 47ポイント48ポイント  (197子コメント)

Quick, someone explain how they're actually not racist at all!

[–]poundfoolishhh 220ポイント221ポイント  (162子コメント)

The "alt-right" is really a spectrum. On the farthest extreme you have these racist lunatics who believe that Jews control the weather.

On the nearest side, you have people who really don't have a problem with gays, Jews or minorities... they're mainly concerned with Western culture and reject the big government globalism the 'mainstream' right has embraced the last 20 years.

The goal, of course, is to link both types of people as being in the same group and representing the same things so you can write off the whole lot.

[–]jelbert6969 17ポイント18ポイント  (6子コメント)

Since you brought up the weather. I feel like the weather forecasters are in cahoots with the grocery stores. They predict doom so people run out and buy milk and bread and D-cell batteries.

[–]tiamdi 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never understood why people buy milk. If there's a terrible storm and your power is out it's going to go bad

[–]HaveaManhattan 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Think of it this way - If there's a 20% chance of rain that means on 100 days like today, it will rain on 20 of them. If weatherman says it'll be a sunny day but then it rains, he's seen as the one who got it wrong and got everyone wet and they remember his failure. BUT, if he says it'll rain and it's sunny, everyone is pleasantly surprised and dry, and they don't remember that failure, because it worked out well for them. Point is, the weatherman has a vested interest in leaning towards the worst predictions, because it secures his job if he's wrong in the right way. Best way to get accurate weather in online from a radar map that has no concerns over job security.

[–]vashette 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh damn, is that how it works? It seems like whenever there is a % chance of rain, that % chance is pretty much how much of the day is taken up by rain. If that makes sense. But now I am questioning my recall.

[–]HaveaManhattan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. % chance means that in 100 days with the same atmospheric conditions(pressure, humidity, etc), rain has occurred on X amount of those days in the past, with no specifications for when or how long it will occur. If I see less than a 50% chance, I'm not taking an umbrella anywhere. And I just don't listen to local weathermen anymore, because they have an imparted bias, and frankly are there to entertain more and more often. I use https://www.wunderground.com/.

[–]noconverse 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's funny you should say this, because Subredditoftheday actually did /r/altright a few days ago. This is part of what the moderators said describes alt-right:

Another core principle of the Alt-Right is Identitarianism. Identitarianism is the prioritization of social identity, regardless of political persuasion. Thus, the Alt-Right promotes White Identity and White Nationalism.

[–]rguin 39ポイント40ポイント  (5子コメント)

Too bad it was literally coined as a term by white nationalists/supremacists to make white nationalism/supremacist more palatable.

[–]BluishWaffles 70ポイント71ポイント  (4子コメント)

Which is exactly why the ctrl-left are trying to lump as many moderates under that title as possible.

[–]rguin 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

ctrl-left

That's cute.

[–]scream2breath 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Completely different from the Shft-left movement.

[–]XSplain 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

So what are anarchists? Ctrl-alt-delete?

[–]scream2breath 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey, at least they are better than nihilistic Alt-F4 movement

[–]TimeKillerAccount 63ポイント64ポイント  (108子コメント)

The moderates are not part of the alt right. If you describe yourself as altright then you are already out of touch with reality.

[–]NoBreaksTrumpTrain 12ポイント13ポイント  (13子コメント)

How do you describe people that reject the current conservative establishment?

[–]TimeKillerAccount 6ポイント7ポイント  (11子コメント)

That depends on the context. Are they more moderate then the party, or more extreme? Extreme is usually altright, and less is usually just called moderate conservatives.

[–]Poopsinpantss 24ポイント25ポイント  (9子コメント)

So extreme conservatives, which end up being mostly ex-punk anarchists, are now racists?

This is why I hate this 'alt-right' term. Its just the left trying to label as many people racists as possible.

[–]bansDontWork1 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

the left trying to label as many people racists as possible.

I mean that's their #1 method of "winning" arguments.

If you smear your opponent with one of the -ists or -phobes then you automatically win because they're so morally inferior that they're incapable of making valid points, right? /s

[–]TimeKillerAccount 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

So extreme conservatives, which end up being mostly ex-punk anarchists, are now racists?

Yes, people who call themselves altright are pretty racist in general. This is not news. The leaders of the alt right include white supremists and the KKK for gods sakes. Claiming the alt-right isn't pretty racist is just straight up lying.

[–]Poopsinpantss 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

Well you kind of just proved my point. Anyone who isnt 'left' is racist to you.

Thats not what I am saying. I saying people WHO DONT call themselves alt-right. Are now being labeled racists just because they hold some conservative ideals.

Like myself who grew up listening to CRASS and sees myself as a 'ex anarchist' once I grew up and had to get a job. Am now defending myself to people who want to call me racist just because I dont like government and I have a very extreme punk/anarchist past.

[–]TimeKillerAccount 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well you kind of just proved my point. Anyone who isnt 'left' is racist to you.

I never said that. Way to lie again. I said Alt-right is pretty racist. There is a whole spectrum of people between and around just left and altright. They are not the only two things in the world.

I saying people WHO DONT call themselves alt-right. Are now being labeled racists just because they hold some conservative ideals.

Then you look like a pretty big idiot responding to my comment, which was specifically and clearly only about people who call themselves altright.

Am now defending myself to people who want to call me racist just because I dont like government and I have a very extreme punk/anarchist past.

Since you are the only one talking about that, why are you even here?

[–]Poopsinpantss 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

I said.

So extreme conservatives, which end up being mostly ex-punk anarchists, are now racists?

And your said

Yes

[–]poundfoolishhh 66ポイント67ポイント  (56子コメント)

I don't describe myself as anything. I'm saying there is a major difference between Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer and Milo Yiannopoulos, even though they are pushed as being one and the same.

Edit: Taylor

[–]schoofer 18ポイント19ポイント  (7子コメント)

Milo is a member of the alt-right and has written articles about the alt-right, including its origin with Spencer. No one is pushing anything onto him.

[–]ImPinkSnail 28ポイント29ポイント  (6子コメント)

Provide one link to Milo saying he is Alt right

Let me save you the time. You can't because he hasn't. He has even wrote articles about "Destroying the Alt-Righr" for Breitbart. Stop pushing lies, and shit ones at that.

[–]schoofer 30ポイント31ポイント  (5子コメント)

So he joins with them politically, writes for them at Breitbart, retweets/shares articles about himself being an alt-right icon, defends them and tries to help people "understand" them, but he's not one of them?

[–]YopperApe 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm saying there is a major difference between Jared White or Richard Spencer and Milo Yiannopoulos, even though they are pushed as being one and the same.

You're thinking of Jared Taylor. As for Milo, HE IS NOT ALT RIGHT. He does not identify as alt right. He doesn't hold alt right positions. Alt righters don't consider him alt right. He doesn't accept invitations to alt right conventions and podcasts. HE IS NOT ALT RIGHT.

[–]rguin -1ポイント0ポイント  (45子コメント)

Jared White or Richard Spencer and Milo Yiannopoulos

Yeah, Milo's a homophobic gay man, and Spencer and White (presumably) aren't gay.

Milo's still every bit as blatantly and openly racist as the other two.

[–]NoBreaksTrumpTrain 41ポイント42ポイント  (44子コメント)

How in the fuck can you be a homophobic gay man? You just seem to be calling him an "Uncle Tom" which is pretty morally disgusting to be honest.

[–]captionquirk 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

? What do you think of those countless politicians that have condemned homosexuality but have been caught with a dick up their ass?

[–]BlairWaldorfHeadband 31ポイント32ポイント  (27子コメント)

It's very easy to be a homophobic gay man if you're Yiannopoulos. The man doesn't think lesbians exist for Christ's sake.

[–]XSplain 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

doesn't think lesbians exist

But he's not even English royalty.

[–]rguin 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

How in the fuck can you be a homophobic gay man?

Here's how: be this guy.

Because he literally is. He wrote an article asserting that gay people should literally go back to being oppressed, and has repeatedly asserted that lesbians are faking it. He is homophobic.

You just seem to be calling him an "Uncle Tom" which is pretty morally disgusting to be honest.

lol I thought you lot were against morally policing speech.

[–]Gishin 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

How in the fuck can you be a homophobic gay man?

Just as easily as you can be a misogynist woman. It seems crazy and stupid, because it is, but it still happens.

[–]EvilRethuglican 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Milo is the gay equivalent of an Uncle Tom. Was that too un-PC for your sensitive fee fees?

[–]akai_ferret 55ポイント56ポイント  (19子コメント)

Hardly anyone describes themselves as alt-right.
The left uses the term a hundred times more than anyone on the right does.

The issue is the fucking Hillary campaign turned "alt-right" into a blanket derogatory term used to imply bigotry and dismiss anyone who wasn't voting for Hillary.

And the left, who is currently just obsessed with dismissing people based on who they are instead of what they said (one reason so many people were angry enough at the left to vote Trump btw), took that and ran with it.

I've seen more never-Hillary Bernie voters labeled alt-right than I've seen actual racists labeled alt-right.

[–]bansDontWork1 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

The issue is the fucking Hillary campaign turned "alt-right" into a blanket derogatory term used to imply bigotry and dismiss anyone who wasn't voting for Hillary.

Well we saw how well that worked out for them last Tuesday. At least the Left is showing their complete inability to learn from events and is already well on their way to following the same logic that screwed them last week.

[–]TimeKillerAccount 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Screaming that someone else calls you altright doesnt actually make the large altright suddenly not shitty. Just like complaining that someone called you racist doesnt somehow imply that there is no such thing as racism. Dont get confused by outlier words and try actually staying on topic.

[–]akai_ferret 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

I never claimed anything about the views of the real alt-right.
You're beating up a strawman.

the large altright

Slandering everyone you don't agree with as alt-right doesn't make the alt-right large.

[–]TimeKillerAccount 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I made no strawman at all. Claiming I did is just a common tactic used by those without a valid argument. You claimed that my comment was incorrect because other people call everyone altright. I said that it doesn't matter, because we are talking about people who call themselves altright. And I am not slandering anyone. Slander means it is false. I haven't said anything that was false. Please learn what words mean before you use them.

alt-right large

It was supposed to be the large majority of alt-right, as in most of the alt-right, but I typed since I am on a phone.

[–]rguin 8ポイント9ポイント  (13子コメント)

The issue is the fucking Hillary campaign turned "alt-right" into a blanket derogatory term used to imply bigotry and dismiss anyone who wasn't voting for Hillary.

Holy spun up narratives, Batman!

They brought the alt-right and their internet hate brigade to light. That's it.

[–]akai_ferret 31ポイント32ポイント  (12子コメント)

Once Again:
I've seen more never-Hillary Bernie voters labeled alt-right than I've seen actual racists labeled alt-right.

The only thing the Hillary Campaign brought us was CTR shills and their lies.

Alt-right was a term an extremely tiny community on the right called themselves.
The left that took that term and started spraying it on everyone they didn't like.

And just like when they were calling everyone they didn't like "facists" earlier this year, before they discovered the term "alt-right", just because you called someone a name doesn't make it true.

[–]rguin 17ポイント18ポイント  (9子コメント)

I've seen more actual racists labeled alt-right than BoB idiots. Anecdotes are worthless.

The only things the Trump campaign brought were bigotry and magical thinking.

[–]akai_ferret 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

I've seen more actual racists labeled alt-right than BoB idiots.

More likely you're just one of the increasing number of frightening people on the left who have deluded themselves into truely believing that everyone to the right of them is actually racist.

[–]rguin 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

More likely you're just one of the increasing number of frightening people on the left who have deluded themselves into truely believing that everyone to the right of them is actually racist.

The irony is delicious.

[–]akai_ferret 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

Apparently you didn't pay attention in english class. Reading comprehension is important.

I did not at all imply that everyone on the left is like that, just that there is an increasing number of them.

And the left better do something about it quick, because those yahoos are pushing moderate leftists away in droves.
(like me!)

[–]schoofer 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't reason with these people. Their opinions are not rational to begin with.

[–]sheshesheila 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Trump campaign hired Bannon - the self proclaimed leader of the alt Reich.

[–]akai_ferret 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

the alt Reich.

This is why it's becoming so hard tell a parody leftist from a real one these days.
You're just getting silly.

[–]HaveaManhattan 25ポイント26ポイント  (16子コメント)

If you describe yourself as altright then you are already out of touch with reality.

It looks like they were more in touch than most, tbh. This casually dismissive attitude is exactly why Hillary and Dems failed to win the election. Those "moderates" were people like myself who wanted Bernie and ended up voting Johnson(In my case) or Trump, because he spoke to them. There's nothing wrong with being proud of western culture or euro culture or white culture - call it what you want. The biggest division there, IMO, is that when people say they are proud they are looking at the up side of the culture, and then the people who only look at the downside of the culture come along and say "racist!". ALL cultures have up sides and down sides. You can celebrate one without condoning the other.

[–]TimeKillerAccount 5ポイント6ポイント  (15子コメント)

That would be great if it wasn't a complete sack of bullshit. I know a great many altrighters. They are all pretty racist. Their leaders are white supremists and the KKK. That is racist no matter how much you claim it isn't. Having pride in your heritage is fine. Saying your skin color makes you better is not. And since the Altright doesn't just celebrate their culture (despite the fact that "white" is not a culture) then that is just an excuse when they get caught dressing up like Nazis or claiming that all Muslims should be banned from the country.

Don't want to be called racist? Don't support racists and give them power. Simple. All the republicans whining like little bitches for getting called racist just cause they voted for a racist and support his racist policies is getting really annoying.

[–]HaveaManhattan 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

That would be great if it wasn't a complete sack of bullshit...That is racist no matter how much you claim it isn't. Having pride in your heritage is fine. Saying your skin color makes you better is not.

This right here - My point about a "casually dismissive attitude" went right over your head as you barrel forward with your talking points like you can force people to agree with you if you repeat it enough. I did NOT claim nobody was racist, yet you say I did. It's things like that. 99% of Trump supporters don't go around saying their "skin color makes them better", and even African-Americans have a segment that thinks being black makes them better. And more importantly, if you keep blindly accusing whole swaths of people of acting a certain way, without proof(stereotyping), they tend to get defensive about it and become less receptive to your message(just look at GOP outreach attempts with minorities if you need an example, history makes it hard for them to even get a listen). And that was Hillary's game plan apparently, to accuse, and it backfired. She was never a positive person, nor was her campaign. It all appeared to be fake positivity covering accusations, while to voters, Trump appeared to be fake accusations covering real positivity.

despite the fact that "white" is not a culture

Is "black" a culture? "Muslim"? "Hispanic"? Cause I'll tell you, my Cuban culture is way different than Brazilian culture or Mexican culture. Blacks in NYC aren't the same as in the South. Iranian Persians might take offense to their culture being seen as the same as Saudi culture. So on it's face, you are right, there is no 'white" culture, there's European cultures from many nations, all of which have contributed to American culture. But that's not what you meant, was it? Just because you don't see something doesn't mean it's not there. Next St. Paddy's day parade, go find the Africans and Asians celebrating(seen it myself in NYC) and tell them to stop appropriating someone else's culture. Next time you see one sitting down with a sausage or hamburger, ask them why they feel the need to appropriate German culture. That's what culture does, it intermingles. My Cuban culture's Cuban Sandwich is the product of immigration from various Euro nations.

Don't want to be called racist? Don't support racists and give them power. Simple.

Lol, dude, if you think anything, let alone that subject, can be reduced to a solution that simple, you need to stop trying to swim in the deep end before you drown in your own hubris and ignorance. Really, you need to get a grip on the fact that "racism" is not the number 1 issue for a giant majority of people not just in America, but on Earth. Just the fact that it can be talked about openly here is a huge sign of the privilege Western democratic culture grants us.

[–]Kinnasty 19ポイント20ポイント  (5子コメント)

Surprised People are still using racism accusations as an "instantly win the argument" card.

[–]TimeKillerAccount 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

I am not. The alt right is racist. Tht is just a fact. There is no argument, it is simple fact. If you belong to the KKK or a white supremacy group, you are racist. That is simply the definition of racism. Its people like you who keep saying that calling racist things racist is wrong.

[–]Kinnasty 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm sure some of these alt right people are racist, most aren't. Just like some black people are criminals, most aren't.
You scream racism over and over to try to invalidate the opinions of an entire group, that's unfair and causes more harm than good

[–]TimeKillerAccount 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm sure some of these alt right people are racist, most aren't.

Yea, I am sure most of those people enrolled in white supremacy organizations aren't racist at all.

Just like some black people are criminals, most aren't.

Black is a skin color. Being part of the alt right is a choice. Comparing the two like they are the same makes it very clear why you can't understand the issue at all.

You scream racism over and over to try to invalidate the opinions of an entire group

I never said anything about their opinions. Good job lying about what is happening.

that's unfair and causes more harm than good

Calling a racist a racist is 100% fair. Don't be a racist and I won't say you are racist. If you take voluntary actions that make you part of a group, don't get mad when people call your group out for its actions.

[–]Kinnasty 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

  • Again youre treating people as a monolithic group. marxists are left, that does that mean all left spectrum individuals are Marxists?
  • Fine...Being Muslim is a choice, are all muslims rapists and terrorists?
  • You know full well you scream racism as a tool in an argument. As soon as you say that magic word and it will poison someone and detour from other issues and concerns.
  • It causes more harm because it pisses people off. I would think that to get the change you want, you dont scream and insult other you will HAVE TO work with, but hey Im just an adult.

[–]Makdranon 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

In other words they are doing exactly what they condemn others for doing with Al Qaeda/ISIS and the mainstream.

[–]SANDERS4POTUS69 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

How do you figure?

[–]buildmeupbreakmedown 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think he's saying that "the altright" pushes an image of Islam in which every single Muslim is indistinguishable from Al Quaeda, ISIS and other extremist terrorist groups, which is the same as bundling racists and non-racists together as "the (racist) altright".

[–]SANDERS4POTUS69 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It sounds like they're pointing out that people are painting the "alt-right" (what a buzzword) like people paint all Muslims with the same brush. I'm just wondering if there's some overlap between the people doing that and accusing others of doing that.

[–]buildmeupbreakmedown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just wondering if there's some overlap between the people doing that and accusing others of doing that.

There certainly is, since pretty much everyone does that to one group of people or another. All Germans are like this, all engineers are like that, etc.

[–]teaqualizer 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

The goal, of course, is to link both types of people as being in the same group and representing the same things so you can write off the whole lot.

Like people trying to link BLM and that Humongous rant woman to centralist politics?

[–]rguin 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean... if we're gonna bring BLM up we could bring up the nigh constant attempts to link the entirety of BLM to literally any black person doing/saying any bad thing.

[–]Kinnasty 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Didnt Hillary and Obama voice support for black lives matter?

[–]teaqualizer 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a difference between calling for some of the issues they have raised to be addressed and endorsing/supporting the actions of the group.

It's unfortunate that the wreckless actions of a few people can invalidate the concerns of a large group of peaceful protestors. Addressing those concerns in anyway can be seen to give legitimacy to the troublemakers in the group. As with the germ of this conversation it's like pointing to the KKK's support of Donald Trump as proof that he's a racist.

[–]YopperApe 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the nearest side, you have people who really don't have a problem with gays, Jews or minorities... they're mainly concerned with Western culture and reject the big government globalism the 'mainstream' right has embraced the last 20 years.

These aren't alt right. The left has tried to slur them as such, because the left loves calling everyone they like nazis and alt right is the new nazi, but they aren't alt right. They never considered themselves such (well, some did after Hillary called them such) and other alt righters detest that people confuse them for being alt right.

[–]random_modnar_5 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The goal, of course, is to link both types of people as being in the same group and representing the same things so you can write off the whole lot

Not much of a goal when they call themselves alt right

[–]mellowmarcos 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like these people should move to Russia if they don't like the US.

[–]bsutansalt 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Which is ironic seeing as the darling superstar of the alt-right movement is Milo Yianopolous, a gay Jewish Brit who openly proclaims his love of BBC. It's kinda hard to claim the entire movement is anti-Semitic, racist, etc when he's our "people's champion" taking the fight to the mainstream on our behalf.

[–]captionquirk 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

You can still be racist/sexist and also be Jewish and gay...

[–]guyonthissite 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

Can you still be racist if you've never said or done anything racist?

[–]Jimonalimb 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes. Be white.

[–]bansDontWork1 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, that's what I did to these people. I suppose I need to apologize for the color of my skin then.

Or I could just tune out anyone who cries "racism". One or the other.

[–]captionquirk 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, not in the traditional sense.

And Milo promoting the vitriol thrown at Leslie Jones is pretty racist/ignorant.

[–]DeadHeadFred12 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He didn't promote anything, he made a joke after people were already making jokes.

[–]rslash2 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

i noticed trump didnt make your list of the alt right - he is the alt right god emperor and it's disingenuous not to mention it.

[–]mogutan 7ポイント8ポイント  (24子コメント)

The Alt-Right and Stormfront people aren't really the same ideologically. Although similar, this is literal neo nazi stuff here. Alt Right generally stick to anti-free trade/anti-multiculturalism, and although they don't like brown people they aren't advocating for gas chambers. Stormfront want to resurrect Hitler. Might look the same from afar but they're somewhat opposed to each other because they share a somewhat similar marketplace of ideas.

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[–]rguin -1ポイント0ポイント  (20子コメント)

anti-multiculturalism

Please, explain how that's distinct from neo-Nazism.

[–]mogutan 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

One doesn't like immigration. The other advocates genocide.

[–]rguin 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

We're a multicultural society with or without immigration. Our nation already has Native American cultures, African-American culture, legal and long-time (before "muh illegals" comes out) Hispanic American culture.

Please, explain how you can advocate monoculturalism without desiring to eliminate these distinct cultures.

[–]BulletBilll 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

McDonalds and WalMart.

[–]Jeffreys_pasta 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because there are people of every race and ethnicity who are against multiculturalism, whereas only white people become neo-nazis.

In libtard speak: "It's only bad when whitey says it."

[–]rguin 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah because "neo-Nazi" is the word for white ethnonationalists.

[–]SpenceNaz88 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you honestly need that explained to you? "Everything I don't like is Hitler".

[–]rguin 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought us liberals were supposed to be the smug, condescending assholes. So much for that narrative.

[–]libbylibertarian 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Twitter is a left wing echo chamber...I haven't tweeted in years and never will again.

[–]TheDriestCanadian 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there no alternative to twitter?

[–]XSplain 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly don't know what anyone expected.

[–]Danny_Internets 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pro tip: these morons were doing this long before the Twitter ban.

[–]flamingboard 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Learning from Hillary's alt left CTR.

[–]larry_appleton420 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

These guys really hate black people, huh. Considering all of the amazing things in this world, you'd think they'd pick something a little more worthwhile to do with their time.