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[–]Zerstoror [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'd say the DNC destroyed themselves. Obama, if you recall, did not endorse hillary for a long time. We'll after the primary was wrapped up. He was on the sidelines.

[–]Mirrrcat [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Honestly Obama is going to be one of the only things that will preserve the democrats, this cycle was horrible for them and he's a much more uniting figure than Hillary or Bernie

[–]lastbastion [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

this cycle was horrible for them

Understatement of the year. Under Obama the dems are in the worst position they’ve been in since 1928 when you look at all levels of government. Since 2009, they have lost the presidency, 13 Senate seats, 64 House seats, 13 governorships and more than 900 state legislators.

Obama should follow Bush #43 and retire quietly. Play some golf, take up painting. I don't think he will though.

[–]g00n24 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This 100%. Since Obama took office Democrats have lost power at every level. His policies are constantly rebuked, but he as a person is still liked by supposedly the majority of Americans if you believe the polls. Rush was talking about this phenomenon quite a bit last week.

[–]Another_Damn_Idiot [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Well, to be fair Bush's approval ratings at the end of his term were dismal where Obama's are higher than Reagan's were.

Also, after 1928 came FDR who won 4 elections and created the New Deal, presided over America's war effort and the climb out of the economic crater of the Great Depression.

[–]stankovic32 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

People like Obama personally, but I'd assume many of those can see he's full of shit. Before I started learning about politics, I thought he was cool and relatable. Who would have known he's really a sack of shit

[–]carolinaslim [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

You could probably change out the rubble of the Democrat party and replace it with America and be closer to the truth.

[–]PC__LOAD__LETTER [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Do you have any measurable sources to support that? You should compare the economy now to what it was in '08 after Bush was finished with it.

[–]lastbastion [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Here is a handy chart: http://i.imgur.com/SNR5hN8.jpg

The red shading is '08-present. All the data is pulled from https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/

Here is a nice rebuttal by ZeroHedge to the WaPo article I am sure you are looking for that attempts to de-legitimize those charts from the St. Louis Fed.

Another from WSJ: http://imgur.com/ZtWctvV Notice GDP growth under Obama compared to Bush.

Another from The Institute for Economics and Peace: https://i.sli.mg/0BYSkW.png

The US economy is a big beast of a thing so I doubt it is ALL bad. However, history will not remember President Obama fondly.

[–]PC__LOAD__LETTER [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

A lot of interesting metrics there. The home ownership one peaks a little before 2008 starts trending down quickly well before Obama came into office. The "Black inequality" chart is also a little mysterious.

You mention GDP... ignoring the alarmist magazine clipping that compares some growth rates, let's look at the actual number: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=bP9R

The recession that Obama walked into in '08 at the tail end of Bush's presidency was much worse than what the country is looking at right now.

That last graph is much more of a "state of the world" than the state of America, I don't think that can accurately be tied to Obama.

[–]lastbastion [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You mention GDP... ignoring the alarmist magazine clipping that compares some growth rates, let's look at the actual number: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=bP9R

No one is saying GDP isn't growing. GDP is growing slower under Obama than it has historically. I suppose blaming Bush for that is par for the course eight years later.

Source data on the 'alarmist magazine clipping' out of the Wall Street Journal - https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RL1A225NBEA

I disagree that Obama can't take the lion's share of the blame for the last graph. We broadcast our plans for the region to our enemies and left a power vacuum that spawned ISIS.

[–]ItsALivingFlyingCirc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Since the current abysmal state of the economy MUST still be Bush's fault (according to most "liberals") even though Obama has been president for the past eight years, then it stands to reason that the 08' crash was Clinton's fault, right?

[–]Shademaster21 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It has definitely taken it's toll on him. Just look at this: http://i.imgur.com/JTFMPpo.png

That is the face of a man who has taken on way more than he should have. I don't even want to think about what Trump might look like a few years down the road. Probably a lot less orange.