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Red Pill TheoryFrame is Freedom (self.TheRedPill)

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Introduction

If we are to connect the dots we must be far enough apart from the dots to be able to have the emotional distance to see the big picture.

Frame is internal Freedom which gives us that distance.

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When you are too close to something you can't see it.

The Red Pill is mostly about having the ability to connect the dots and you can't really achieve that when you are emotionally attached to the dots you are examining.

The Blue Pill is the globalist themed emotional indoctrination system (tv, schools, news, etc) that suppresses our consciousness and prevents our ability make the connections necessary to actually understand what is going on.

We are presently dampening the Jerry Springer Show posts in an attempt to reduce the anger component of the Red Pill that comes about when you first make a connection of a few dots related to women. But anger is actually valuable in the beginning.

That said... what about Frame?

Frame is your ability to set boundries. This is the formation of the ego and despite the brainwashing of the Blue Pill to remain innocent, unselfish, egoless, and giving, the fact of the matter is that:

Without Frame there can be no Masculine Polarity.

Red Pill is masculinity... it's a different mental orientation.

From this separation a boy grows into a man. In the past it was common in most societies for men to go through a ritual where he was separated from women and brought together with the older males and taught the masculine ways of thinking. These rituals no longer exist, so most boys these days are locked in a state of perpetual childhood (Androgyny) and this means they never connect the dots.

Conclusion

For any newer Red Pill readers this is the core message of Masculine Polarity.

To be Masculine is to have Frame.

  • Frame is internal Freedom.

  • Frame is setting boundries.

  • Frame is ego.

  • Frame is like a firewall.

  • Frame is separation from the herd.

  • Frame is separation from women.

  • Frame is the key to going from boy to man.

  • Frame gives emotional distance which allows you to connect the dots.

  • Frame ultimately gives you Amused Mastery.

 

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[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 118ポイント119ポイント  (2子コメント)

Frame and emotionally distancing ones self also applies to TRP in and of itself. TRP will commonly be referred to as a locker room, as a toolbox, as a template. It is all of those things but all of those things are also just one piece to a complex component.

A toolbox sits in your garage. You have many other pieces of equipment, tools and machines. You may use the toolbox a lot in the next coming years, but the toolbox isn't the garage.

You go into the locker room for a purpose. In sports it's to get yourself ready for the trials soon to come. After that you pack up your bag and head out to the other stuff you need to attend to. The locker room is only one room of many you enter.

TRP is a great template for any BP guy. Thousands of men have built this template not just in the 3 year of TRP's existence but all the way back 10-15 years ago when PUA first started. The lessons here vast and thoroughly tested. But TRP is still just a template.

The finale of TRP is that one day you will leave here as your own man. Not a man the society told you to be, not a man that your family, friends or even girlfriends want you to be. Not even the template TRP first gave you. No, the finale of TRP is you will become man you built yourself. A man that has a garage full of tools, one of which is a little box called TRP.

[–]Stythe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm glad you said this. As with any movement, if you want to call TRP such a thing, there are extremists who take it o literally. Much like religious zealots who preach gospel and shit on anyone who doesn't agree. Any extremists is still missing the bigger picture. TRP has good advice, good information, good ideas, but you have to use it appropriately.

[–]perkam 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's funny how many of the posts here can be summarized by Bill Burr's:

"Be a man. Suppress your emotions. Act like you have answers."

[–]ChadThundercockII 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have this one in a notebook, because it summarizes manhood beautifully.

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    [–]p3n1x 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

    who have trouble tuning out that little self doubting hamster despite a steady pattern of improvement,

    The problem isn't a 'mapped out method'. It is taking what you understand already the full distance.

    Making a decision period gives the sense of power and strength, not the wishy washy fence riding and the pondering of the existential bullshit of whether it was the 'right or wrong' choice. Analyze that crap on your own time and away from women.

    Unwavering self confidence = making a decision, period. Outcome dependence comes from 'wondering' if it were the right/wrong choice. Women don't care about this, they don't care because they are unable to identify it in the first place. They are looking to you to decide right/wrong. When you second guess / waiver, so do they and they don't like that feeling and make you pay for your weakness.

    If the choice you make does not have a desirable outcome, then don't do it again. There is no need to complicate it beyond this.

    Yes, it is that simple. Amused Mastery is not a 'method' , it is an understanding.

    [–]rp_newdawn 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    To doubt yourself is human. You don't need to tune out the doubt, just to learn when it's offering valid objective insights and not subjective emotional perspectives.

    I have two approaches. The first is alone time (I prefer hiking or music). The second is to practice with people who have not earned the right to influence what I think of myself.

    U/NeoreactionSafe has a great way of putting it... Men desire freedom, women desire access.

    [–]segundah 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I've read here before that Mindfulness Meditation is great for really tuning into your thought patterns so you can change the ones which are really hindering you, and also living more in the moment and less in your mind. It really is a great thing. Mindfulness In Plain English is always recommended.

    [–]SupDummmy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Frame is just maintaining an autonomous, positive emotional / mental state in the presence of others.

    [–]ClimbingTehLadder 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Frame is everything

    Good post.

    [–]perrolo 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

    In the past it was common in most societies for men to go through a ritual where he was separated from women and brought together with the older males and taught the masculine ways of thinking. These rituals no longer exist, so most boys these days are locked in a state of perpetual childhood (Androgyny) and this means they never connect the dots.

    This is why it's important to distance yourself from women when you start, to not have any real friends that are girls. Only that way you will be able to see the dots.

    [–]introspect2314 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is an interesting point. Most real men I know these days are not ingrained in a circle of friends. From my perspective, male friend circles tend to be cesspools for beta behavior. I would argue there are more benefits to befriending females than males. I do agree that people new to TRP may need to distance themselves temporarily from females.

    [–]BassNet -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's situation-dependent, but I think having friends who are female is very important. Female friends bring other females into the social circle and to social events. I'm in college though, so it might be different in 'the real world.'

    [–]alpha-secretase 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Can't leave without dropping this here, Martin Shkreli with an impeccable fucking frame. Guy had to shift his attention multiple times, and he didn't even fucking flinch. Irregardless of his actions in the pharmaceutical industry, the guy held his ground like a fucking tank.

    Edit: Spelling

    [–]PillyQ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The "No :)" at the end is icing on top.

    [–]our_guile 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Agreed. Trump too, love him or hate him.

    [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    if you're fixing spelling, irregardless is not a word either.

    [–]Smoothtank 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah, "irregardless" is a word. If you're going to correct people, make sure you're correct yourself.

    That's all I have to say about that.

    [–]jonhova 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's a bastardization of regardless meaning without regard and irrespective.

    [–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Frame is staying in control which is basically using logic to solve your situations. The opposite of frame is the blue pill way of thinking which is to let your emotions rule you as a person which is feminine and not how men should act.

    [–]2PragmaticRedTruth 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Frame is separation from the herd.

    Frame is separation from women

    If you don't set yourself apart, you are just another face, you are just another weakling. You are getting pushed around without a solid foundation to keep you in place. You're a pawn in the game, not the magician within it.

    Frame is strength. Without it, amused mastery isn't possible, and you can not look at the world in a positive light. All the seriousness you have within will be pointed at all the wrong targets. When the only thing you should be serious about is holding frame itself.

    Great post per usual.

    [–]LegendaryPeace 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well said.

    Given that we all start asexual and dependent, it shouldn't be too surprising that some boys fail to make the leap into being free and sexually confident young men. This process takes a lot of time and hard work, and it can be scary at times since you have to give up deeply engrained belief patterns.

    And yet, adherents of the Blue Pill (i.e. the masses) act like the Red Pill is some type of conspiracy theory or fringe movement. Nothing could be further from the truth. We're dealing with facts, natural law, and a sincere desire to spread wisdom that demonstrably improves lives here.

    When we talk about frame being a firewall or set of boundaries, this is not coming from a sense of paranoia or fear. Rather, it's acknowledging the fact that (obviously) evil exists. I mean, how could you ever think it's a good idea to passively download thoughts and beliefs from the Herd? That would just inundate you with a bunch of lowest-common-denominator crap. Likewise, if you have any knowledge of history, how could you ever think maintaining a strong frame isn't important? How many people were killed in genocides last century again?

    [–]563967325 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I see all these general definitions of frame but a lack of IRL examples. What are examples of using frame with women? Deciding to go to another place on the date and saying "no" if she wants to stay?

    [–]Adolf_ghandi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you make a decision stick with it. Don't bow to stupid shit.

    Example:

    Plate is implying she is hungry (women won't say that stuff upfront very often) and it is dinner time. She is hoping for a reaction. I.e. going out to grab dinner.

    You decide you want to eat x and therefore go to place y. You tell her your decision I.e. you lead.

    She does not want to go there for whatever reason.

    You stick to your decision and go to that place. Maybe she will come along maybe not. You don't care.

    Congrats you just held frame. It can actually be that easy.

    [–]ahmedpie 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    In your case saying no with the right tone and body language 90% of the time they will fall into your frame and go along with it

    Lets say you struggle to say no. She can sense your frustration. Thats losing frame and losing control. More shit tests will follow.

    [–]563967325 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Being part of the gender that's supposed to control should be enlightening but the amount of responsibility required may take time to get used to, especially since I tend to be indecisive.

    [–]RP_Vergil 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Most of the time Frame is about doing what you intended to do and sticking it to your guts. If she wants to go somewhere else but you like it here, tell her she can head there herself.

    [–]ingenjor 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I read a lot about setting boundaries here. But what boundaries are you talking about specifically?

    [–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I listed a total of nine definitions of "Frame"... you need more than that?

    At some point the idea either sinks in or it never will...

     

    [–]ingenjor 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yes, and one of your nine definitions of Frame was "setting boundaries". I wasn't asking about your definition of Frame.

    Just curious how tightly people prefer to set their boundaries here. If it's just for stuff that actually matters or also for really minor stuff.

    [–]alpha-secretase 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's for you to decide. You can become defensive over small things, or you can ignore them. TRP preaches stoicism, maintaining abundance mentality and IDGAF always having the ability to walk away, that defines your frame.

    Your boundary is where your frame ends. You apply game to things outside your frame. You can have markers that signify how you change your behavior according to your environment, so that you do not become vulnerable or overly invested and can always walk away.

    Try different things out and see whether you are comfortable and outcome independent. People will always test your frame, it's up to you to make the necessary adjustments.

    [–]ahmedpie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    In my experience. The best way for me to build frame was to work on myself. By this i mean starting to make time for working on my personal goals. This does not mean chasing girls.

    You got to have hope for yourself in order to have a strong establishment of frame

    [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I like equivalating frame to your personal narrative

    in a club

    You: I'm the shit!

    Girl: No you're not.

    You: Oh. Ok :(

    =weak frame. if you were a painting, your frame would be putrid wood.

    You: I'm the shit.

    Girl: No you're not

    You: Yes I am!

    =strong frame. the thoughts of others didn't unbalance you from your personal narrative. If you were a painting, the frame would be metal.