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[–]EarthanPyros 465ポイント466ポイント  (121子コメント)

Man, my biggest surprise was that Dark Souls III is not on the list of best soundtrack and art direction. How?

[–]ArnoldNorris 127ポイント128ポイント  (13子コメント)

Cause Overwatch needs to be in every category.

[–]-TheRowAway-necrophiliac cunnilingus 78ポイント79ポイント  (9子コメント)

I love Overwatch but the music is shit.

[–]TheUnperturbed 44ポイント45ポイント  (7子コメント)

Eh, I actually like their soundtrack, but the DaS3 music certainly trumps it by a long shot.

[–]The_4th_Survivor 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

One time my girlfriend entered the room and asked me, what generic superhero stuff I am playing. I did not play much Overwatch, but she was right. The music feels pretty generic and could easily be taken out of one of Marvels Avengers Films. (Please don't kill me, I love Marvel Films!)

Die DS3 music is great, but often outshines the action and does not represent the stuff going on the screen, like Bloodborne did it. The greatest example are Father Gascoignes and Ebrietas Music/Fights. DS3 is a great game, but does not feel as homogenous as the PS exclusive from last year.

[–]beefjavelin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally agree. When the rest of the sound design in overwatch is so absolutely perfect, the music is pretty vanilla by comparison.

[–]Scorponix 57ポイント58ポイント  (56子コメント)

They didn't have that sweet Sony money to get a live orchestra so the quality of the sound just isn't as good as a lot of AAA games these days

[–]Themarvelousfan 92ポイント93ポイント  (12子コメント)

But even so, there's the Abyss Watchers, Yhorm, Friede andAriandel, Souls of Cinder, Nameless King, etc..

[–]Scorponix 18ポイント19ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yes, which are well composed, but they just don't sound the same as having a live orchestra. In this day and age, that matters. When you are presenting an orchestral soundtrack, synthesizers just don't cut it anymore

[–]omanul 127ポイント128ポイント  (8子コメント)

Hello I am an audio person. The instruments would actually be sampled, not synthesized. BIG difference. I would hazard to bet most people could not tell the difference between a well arranged sampled orchestra and a live orchestra.

[–]Shin_RekkohaSir Douchebag, of the inhuman Strength 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sample libraries have been evolving and improving as well. The parity for many instruments is getting a lot closer... but Electric Guitar libraries still fall noticeably short of a solid thrashing performance.

[–]cgdv85 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

And brass is still pretty rough too.

[–]Shin_RekkohaSir Douchebag, of the inhuman Strength 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's fair, brass and violin are probably harder to do right than anything. I just notice elec guitar more cus I listen to it more.

[–]J13D 71ポイント72ポイント  (40子コメント)

I think DS3 has the best game soundtrack i've heard in years. I can't think of another game that has more amazing music.

Edit: How typical of reddit. Downvote someone for having a differet opinion.

Edit 2: Thats much better...

[–]Scorponix 105ポイント106ポイント  (30子コメント)

Try Bloodborne

[–]PaladinJoe 84ポイント85ポイント  (4子コメント)

Bloodborne didn't get a nomination either for soundtrack which in my opinion was a complete travesty.

[–]Scorponix 36ポイント37ポイント  (3子コメント)

Absolute travesty, convinced they just didn't listen to it because it wasn't as mainstream popular as other nominees

[–]JDNeat 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

BB soundtrack will stay with me for years. Hauntingly beautiful

[–]Imatreewizard89 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ludwig, The Holy Blade. Probably my favorite boss music of all time.

[–]fozzy_bear42 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Excellent one, especially with the mid fight transition, I find the first half more chaotic and the second phase more elegant, very fitting really.

The opening of Orphan of Kos is so sad as well.

[–]JDNeat 31ポイント32ポイント  (14子コメント)

BB all round superior game to DaS3 in every way.

[–]brit-bane 32ポイント33ポイント  (11子コメント)

Honestly I kind of feel like BB tainted the dark souls formula. I actually prefered the less frantic pace of the first 2 games and kinda hate the hyper-aggressiveness of BB and in a way DS3. DS3 takes too much from BB in art direction and combat style (With the much more overly aggressive fast enemies and emphasis on constant rolling).

[–]JDNeat 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Totally agree re the art style/direction. Was a total let down tbh, but don't get me wrong Dark Souls (the first) was the first game I played in the series and I absolutely adore it. My memories of arriving in Lordran for the first time are some of the fondest I have in my 30 years of gaming. There's nothing quite like that atmosphere. Arguably I'd say DaS is the best of the whole series (including Demons Souls) but I had so much fun playing Bloodborne and got really into the community. It was also the first game I ever achieved platinum for. For me personally, BB just trumps DaS as favourite, and absolutely pisses all over DaS3.

[–]J13D 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

I actually have been playing bloodborne recently, i don't find the soundtrack as good as DS3 so far.

[–]Scorponix 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

Play the Old Hunters DLC and your mind will change

[–]suchalusthropusIgnorant slave 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ludwig's theme sounds like Christmas

[–]cbshitpost 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm genuinely curious why you say this. Like, BB's soundtrack is on another level, so much care went into it. Comparing the Cleric Beast's theme to Vordt's midi trumpets you can see a world of difference.

[–]ZweihanderMasterraceDownvote me bro 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ever played Alone in the Dark (2008)? That game has VERY good atmospheric music.

[–]griev0r 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

DS3 soundtrack is absolutely incredible. Almost every boss fight theme is amazing. What a shame.

[–]Heil_Gaben<3 gank 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Try witcher 3

[–]AshenOwn 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Witcher 3 has the best soundtrack any game has ever had, it's preposterous that blood & wine wasnt nominated for song either.

[–]hornwalkerIf only I could be so grossly incandescent! 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gives me conniptions

[–]Onyx_Sentinel 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let me guess... best art direction battlefield 1?

Would not surprise me one bit

[–]mitch13815 28ポイント29ポイント  (9子コメント)

Because HUUURRR SKYRIM 2.0, HURRRR TELLTALE FORMULA #15.

There will never be enough credit given to games that don't appeal to the mass audiences.

[–]ElectricSheep87 32ポイント33ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think part of the problem with DS 3 was trying too much to appeal to a larger audience

[–]ShurikenUK 3ポイント4ポイント  (11子コメント)

Art direction definitely but I dont know about soundtrack. I don't remember hearing much of any music at all except boss fights which is a shame.

I mean, when you first discover certain areas, music should play that has a "you just discovered an amazing place" feel to it, but no, just a sound effect. Tomb Raider 1 on PS1 did this perfectly. Not much music in the actual levels but when you discovered that new place the music really heightened that sense of "OMG look at this place"! The same happened when any significant even occured (EG, finding secrets, walking into dangerous areas etc) It ramped up the atmosphere and immersion to about 11, back in those days atleast.

[–]Zarosia 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

there are little to no areas with a soundtrack in any darksouls games bar in the boss fights, this has been across all the games, music in DS is to notify shits going down for the most part. They leave just the stunning beauty of a place to set the scene, like it would be in real life, you dont have a little sound track playing when you look at a beautiful view from a window, i was speechless when i first walked out and saw the borreal valley after Wolnir, i certainly didn't need a music key to think "man this is so amazingly beautiful""

[–]ShurikenUK 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

You don't NEED a music cue, but it would IMO add to the atmosphere and sense of mystique. I was amazed when discovering the Undead Settlement, Irythil and many other places but some atmospheric music along with what my eyes could see wouldn't have gone a miss to me. Its been too many years since I played Demons & Dark Souls 1 so I couldn't remember if its the same. Music is just as much a friend to atmosphere as level design and sound design IMO. Silent Hill 1-3 are perfect examples of that.

[–]giant_olm_man 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

Mild Bloodborne spoilers to follow!

Okay, you win a ton of points with me for bringing up Silent Hill (even on this sub), but I think a running soundtrack just isn't very Souls. The only exception to come to mind is Yahar'gul, when you wind up in Hypogean Gaol after a Snatcher bags you. That awful chanting and harmonizing in the background emphasized how fucked that place was; the fact that it gets louder the closer you get to the One Reborn's door made it a part of the world rather than a thing purely for the player's benefit. I loved that.

[–]Abyss_walkingLook Good. Get Good. Dark Souls 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I use that song to go to sleep lol

[–]ShurikenUK 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand what you mean. I've been seriously wanting to play Bloodborne but I still haven't bought a PS4 yet lol. One day, one day because it looks very, very good. My kind of style and feel all over.

[–]Moes-TConsumer of Souls 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't recall music starting to play when I walk into my boss' office neither though...

[–]ctully1988 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

But the boss fight music is incredible

Soul of cinder and abyss watchers were so good. I'm not bent out of shape but that's definitely some of my favorite music to come from a game.

[–]Valfreze 103ポイント104ポイント  (16子コメント)

It got GOTY at TGS in JP. Well deserved

[–]SchwaAkariAkari of Sabbath 34ポイント35ポイント  (15子コメント)

I always had the feeling that the Japanese audience (the player base) treated the game itself better than we do. I feel like every time I'm watching a western-made Souls video with all the little jokes and memes we're all familiar with-- even the really good and funny ones-- I'm saying to myself, "maaan, nobody gets it".

It's hard to explain. I don't want to sound like I'm discrediting western players' capacities to enjoy the game, more like, the tone in which the east treats the game is a breath of fresh air compared to how we treat it.

[–]sleeperagent 44ポイント45ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's just a game. I love it, but I doubt this shit keeps any of the devs up at night.

[–]SpoonyJank 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

They get to have reasonable ping as they are the only region locked audience.

[–]theotherMittens 31ポイント32ポイント  (8子コメント)

Which GOTY is this? There's more than one GOTY award...

Only two other games so far have caught my attention this year, and those are Salt and Samctuary and Hyper Light Drifter. Both were great, but DS3 beats them easily.

[–]peas_in_a_can_pie 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

seriously can one person say which goty award y'all are talking about there's like a thousand of them

[–]_jumpingspider [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Salt and Sanctuary is fucking amazing for 17 bucks.

[–]scorpoliciousscorpolicious 137ポイント138ポイント  (21子コメント)

I think goty is a stupid award. There is no absolute best, people like different things.

[–]Valfreze 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it's a neat way to recognise developers. I remember Miyazaki speaking the first time when DS1 got nominated GOTY. Paraphrasing him, he mentioned he often reads many criticisms in his inbox and fully acknowledges it but he was really touched to have the recognition among the other feedback.

[–]LuntiXI just want to set the world on fire 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

Exactly. While I enjoyed DS3, I never considered it for GOTY.

[–]ShurikenUK 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree 110%. There is NO such thing as the single best game (or anything) because if you asked 30 people what the best game of the year was, you're going to hear atleast 5 different games.

[–]David_Browie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Art is subjective. There's no real metaphysical value to ranking anything. But it's a good way to boost sales and to justify allocating money to a dev team.

[–]yiyiyiyi 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Surprised at the comments here. DS3 has its flaws but it's still got some of the best stuff From has made. For me the latter portion of the game is 10/10 all the way. I played it more than any other game this year and it is my GOTY. And I think it's the most fun I've had with PVP in any of these games.

[–]RetardedRabitOfDoom 50ポイント51ポイント  (4子コメント)

I give ds3 a lot of shit but in all honestly it's much better than 99% of the sorry excuses of games that companies give us nowadays

[–]hornwalkerIf only I could be so grossly incandescent! 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

What list? This seems like an important detail.

You had one job, OP....

[–]V_AbhishekBlade of the Darkmoon 44ポイント45ポイント  (8子コメント)

You guys are missing the point. While DS1 or SotFS or BB might be considered better in your eyes, they weren't released in 2016.

If you compare DS3 to other games in 2016, it AT LEAST deserves a spot as a nomination for GOTY and one or two more awards.

Also, just gonna put it out there, I'm super triggered about it not even being considered for Art and Music.

[–]Gishki_Zielgigas 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup. Honestly I think this wasn't a very good year overall for games, but DS3 would still be my choice for GOTY even if it isn't the best game I've ever played. It's certainly the one that had me playing, talking, and thinking about it the most.

[–]completely_blind 19ポイント20ポイント  (16子コメント)

Which goty nominee list? Aren't there lots of them?

[–]ibbolia 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

I honestly only came to the comments to figure out which one we were even talking about. Every magazine does their own list at the very least.

[–]RGodlike 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not just every magazine. Many youtubers, critics, twitch streamers have their own awards or top x list.

[–]afancydragon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's nominated for best RPG on a couple I've seen.
But I have a feeling the Witcher may beat it out due to sheer popularity.
But yea there are a million different sites

[–]DTK99 15ポイント16ポイント  (53子コメント)

Easily my favorite game from this year, but it's my 1st souls game. Seems like a pretty vocal bunch of people think that either DS1/DS2 was better or that DS3 just didn't do enough new things to really shine.

Either way this game was the best game I've run across in years. It's GOTY to me.

[–]MyChiefConcern 29ポイント30ポイント  (42子コメント)

Ever played Bloodborne? It blows 3 away.

[–]DTK99 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't have a PS4. I would love to play it if there was a PC release.

[–]trpwangsta 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

God I truly hope they bring it to PC for you Souls players. I know you guys are die hards for the games and it's unfair you can't play Bloodborne. I've gone out of my way to loan my console to my Xbox and PC friends because this game is simply incredible and it's a legit shame fans don't get to experience it. Makes my heart hurt for you.

[–]Riposte_This 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bloodborne + The Old Hunters is hands down the best of the Souls games. Truly an amazing game.

[–]RetardedRabitOfDoom 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ds3 is just a downgraded bloodborne in terms of PVE

[–]zarlockthree 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Idk. I find it to be a good mix. Dark Souls 1/2 were calculation, positioning, and patience, Bloodborne was quick reactions; but Dark Souls 3 is pretty much in-between. And the plethora of equipment options always has me wanting to keep playing PvE to see how they fare!

[–]RWJ17 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Bloodborne didn't have the longevity 3 had for me, although that first playthrough was better. may be due to the pvp in bloodborne being a joke. Old hunters doe...

[–]TheRealJake9041 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

I completely disagree. I really don't like any of the Souls games before 3, probably because 3 is the most casual-friendly and doesn't feel the need to make everything a roundabout clusterfuck. I know I'm gonna get hate, but this is just my personal opinion. I gave every other game in the Souls series a chance and they all feel pretty much exactly the same except for 3.

Not saying 3 is without flaw, I just prefer its more linear style and smooth gameplay.

[–]Amsa91 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

No one says that DS3 is a bad game; it's a great one and that is undeniable. The thing that goes around the community is just disappointment; DS1 had better level design while DS2 had a far longer replay value.

[–]covenantofsoulsVI 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

DS1 has better world design. Individual level design I'd say is about equal, though I'd personally lean towards DS3 since it doesn't have anything quite as obnoxious as Lost Izalith.

[–]hype348nohyp3 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think Dark 1 has the best world design and Dark 3 has the best individual area design as well. To add on that though I think Dark 2 has the best world design in a mechanical sense, the sheer amount of options available to the player is insane and something I really love.

[–]DTK99 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep, pretty much the impression I get.

I've found DS3 has a hell of a lot of replay value (I'm probably pushing 400 hours across a few characters), but I'm not sure if that's mainly because it's all still new to me. I'm sure for returning players it loses it's shine a lot quicker because it's kind of more of the same.

All that being said I've been meaning to go back and play DS1 and DS2. I have them on steam but the keyboard and mouse controls are so horrible I need to get around to buying a controller before I go back and give them a shot again.

[–]Gedoenser 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

For everyone who doesn't know which game of the year awards this is about, apparently we are talking about these: http://thegameawards.com/nominees/

Hope this clears some of the confusion.

[–]TripleEdgedDickStab a Femboy in his man-pussy for being fucked in the ass! 192ポイント193ポイント  (150子コメント)

I'm going to get downvotes but fuck it.

I disagree. Out of all the games that came out this year, Dark Souls 3 is one of those that aren't fucking with them.

[–]TheGejsza 61ポイント62ポイント  (21子コメント)

Dark Souls 3 is great game but... could be way better. After a few really good experiments in Bloodborne I expected DS3 to blow our minds.

[–]hsgxxdrunkxx 31ポイント32ポイント  (19子コメント)

It's not even as good as bloodborne...

[–]Hypnotyks 27ポイント28ポイント  (8子コメント)

I think Bloodborne is Fromsofts best game, honestly.

[–]EndeavoursThe Youtuber that never was 17ポイント18ポイント  (8子コメント)

To be fair, Bloodborne was amazing. But it was wasted on PS4. If Miyazaki could give a shit about PvP i would be sooo happy.

[–]gehrmantheman 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

They didnt even start working on pvp till the very end.I agree though pvp in bloodborne can be so exciting but the matchmaking ruined it all.Also, I personally love the fact that you can heal parry.

[–]lucipurr_0 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

It was only because it was on PS4 that it turned out to be amazing. Without the extra budget from Sony, they wouldn't have been able to create such a great game.

[–]DarkFlame92 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well,releasing DS3 1 year after BB and 2 years after DS2.How did u expect it to blow your mind?

[–]Amicus-RegisHelping Dummies Everywhere 119ポイント120ポイント  (25子コメント)

Nah bruh, have an upvote. It's a great game, but it's not "Game of the Year." There's a lot of issues with it and there are better candidates, honestly.

[–]worditsbird 21ポイント22ポイント  (12子コメント)

I love darksouls but ds3 is definitely not goty at all compared to the previous titles

[–]doctorcrass 26ポイント27ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is the cycle of any multi-installment franchise.

1 comes out, everyone gushes.

2 comes out, everyone declares 2 is shit and 1 was way better

3 comes out, everyone declares 2 was way better and possibly the pinnacle of the series

4 comes out, everyone declares 1-3 was a golden age of the franchise and 4 sucks.

[–]worditsbird 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Imo darksouls one best first playthrough ds2 is best for multiple playthroughs and pvp and ds3 is OK

[–]btran935 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Such as? I disagree with your opinion, I think DS3 stomps this year in terms of GOTY

[–]Eskabahh 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Such as?

A lot of multiplayer balance and general mechanics are simply broken, for one. A lot of good stuff from Dark Souls 2 was removed (I'm not a big DSII fan, but a lot of new mechanics were awesome), some technical issues as well.

[–]dentalplan24 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he meant such as in reference to "there are better candidates, honestly."

[–]Amicus-RegisHelping Dummies Everywhere 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

In addition to what /u/Eskabahh said, I would also add that Dark Souls 3, even though it caters to a more casual audience, isn't really a game that the general audience of gamers would enjoy for a long period of time.

There's practically no actual story (no, Lore is not the same thing as a story), replay value is extremely low unless you enjoy the PvP mechanics of the game (which is already difficult for some as the mechanics are still being polished up 8 months into the game's life cycle) and there were quite a few graphical glitches at launch that didn't get patched until two weeks ago (and even now more and more players are reporting errors, crashes and significant FPS dropping).

The biggest thing, though, is that as a standalone game, disregarding the prequels, Dark Souls 3 cannot stand on its own two feet. This is a bit hard to describe, but (as basically as I can put it) the game lacks the individuality to be called a "new" game. It's not "Dark Souls 3" more than it's "The not-quite-as-good Dark Souls." This is a major issue with making sequels that game developers really have to be careful of if they're trying to be the best game of the year (which I don't think Miyazake was actively aiming for, but who knows).

The Witcher 3 won GotY last year because even though it was a sequel the game could stand on its own two feet and presented a unique gameplay experience to players while maintaining its presence as a Witcher installment. Games such as The Witcher 3 are games worthy of GotY. Dark Souls 3, as unfortunate as it is, falls just short of this benchmark.

[–]FizzWigget 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not is disagreeing but what would you consider to be better games this year?

[–]Iyagovos 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

DOOM, Hitman, Overwatch, Titanfall 2, Stardew Valley, amongst others I've probably forgotten

[–]Or_Some_Say_Kosm 21ポイント22ポイント  (6子コメント)

Honestly glad I wasn't the one to have to make this comment. I've put a ridiculous amount of hours into all soulsborne games, and while Dark Souls 3 was visually and mechanically beautiful... It was simply underwhelming.

[–]Vakuza 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

while Dark Souls 3 was visually and mechanically beautiful

The collision detection was beautiful, the mechanics were not IMO. They just don't have enough improvements over the previous games; with the right mechanics you can even get away with pretty shoddy hitboxes, though that doesn't work the other way.
Look at rocket league where all the cars are cuboids (design choice) but you have so much control over your car.
Whereas in dark souls with some of the larger weapons you press a button and do nothing for what feels like a second or two.

[–]whiskey_sh1tsabyss walk the whip [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The "new souls" magic wore off fairly quickly for me as well. It's pretty apparent developing Bloodborne alongside DS3 caused an identity crisis for DS3.

There were other issues for me though too. For example, months prior to release, I read an interview where miyazaki said that a big element of DS3 would be "withered beauty", or a world at the end of its' life. That is simply not the case - the buildings, tapestries, and environment in general are all very intact. Outside of hollows running around, you'd never know this was a world that's been in decline for (presumably) thousands of years. A lot of assets in lothric were reused from BB and caused this concept to fall flat on its' ass.

Then there's the deep, which was no doubt ported over from BB. At no point was there any mention in the prior games of "an age of water/deep sea", and introducing something that became a cornerstone of the game, but in the last installment of the series felt so weak.

The darksign in the sky at the kiln vs. the oozing moon in the fishing hamlet.

The abyss watchers being a BB subplot in DS3 with an artorias flavour (still a great fight though).

I could go on, but I'm trying to keep this short.

DS3's a good game, but it's not a great one; the lore's a mess and mechanics are off-point. I've spent more time back with DS1 than I have with DS3 because all the callbacks made me want the real thing.

[–]atriax 15ポイント16ポイント  (26子コメント)

K then name some of them. This goes to every single person here who just typed some generic "agreed" shit. Name some of the games for fucks sake.

[–]ErikaeBatayz 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

This year I prefered The Witness, Doom, Titanfall 2, and Hitman. DS3 would probably be my number 5. That's not a knock on DS3 at all, it's just that being the 5th Souls/Bourne game it's lost a tiny bit of the magic for me. Still a wonderful experience but the games I listed felt fresher to me.

[–]IAmTriscuit 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Overwatch is mine.

[–]clongane94 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Overwatch easily for me as well. It's been my off and on gaming addiction since launch.

[–]Danh8391 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ill wait. I can't see one other game mentioned here.

[–]Boyinachickensuit 8ポイント9ポイント  (34子コメント)

I fully agree with this. Incredible game, my personal favorite this year, definitely not the objective best, or even really close.

Edit: Downvotes prove that you cannot have honest discussions on Reddit. If you disagree with my opinion, let's talk about it, don't try to bury my opinion so that no one is able to discuss. DS3 is an excellently designed game, but I propose that it is not one of the objectively best designed games of the year.

[–]Abedeus 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honest discussion, then you follow it up with OBJECTIVELY BEST. There's no such thing when it comes to subjective matters.

[–]poofynamanama2 23ポイント24ポイント  (31子コメント)

"Objective best" LMAO

[–]willmaster123 9ポイント10ポイント  (25子コメント)

Yes, there is a difference between what you like personally and what is objectively good.

Like my personal favorite movie is Pans Labyrinth, but I admit it isn't the best movie of all time.

[–]sleepr 23ポイント24ポイント  (22子コメント)

i think he is laughing more at the idea that there is actually an objective scale to judge video game quality with.

if you find one that everyone agrees on, let me know. that would be news to me.

[–]MountCydonia 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think anyone can say a game is objectively the "best", but, it's clear that some games are objectively better than others.

But yeah, there is a big difference between objective and perceived quality. I study Game Design at university and the business modules discuss this idea at quite some length.

[–]NukaCM 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

No reason to get downvoted just for sharing your opinion! Here's an upvote :)

I don't know about it getting Game of the Year, but I haven't tired of this game since launch, and I can't say that about the longevity of many games now.

[–]echolog 4ポイント5ポイント  (17子コメント)

It's not in the list at all? What the hell else came out this year? I mean Uncharted 4 is up there, DOOM and Overwatch could be FPS contenders, but what else came out at GOTY levels?

[–]AT-Fields 4ポイント5ポイント  (16子コメント)

The noms are Doom, Inside, Overwatch, Titanfall 2 and Uncharted 4

[–]Alzack13Who needs shields? 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

Y'know, I kind of want Titanfall 2 to win, only because I know it's a good game and yet it got really shit sales. Maybe a GotY recognition would mitigate that...

[–]Lancair77 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not only is it a good game, but it has a great business model. Compared to the Big Two (CoD and Battlefield) it is the only one that will have all free gameplay content updates in the future. I hate that this practice isn't being rewarded more.

[–]Smaimery 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It gives me conniptions...

[–]GrossIncandescant 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

What GOTY list? There's a billion different games which earn game of the year every year and the title is completely meaningless. Awards like that are all about money and marketing, and Dark Souls isn't a game aimed at the casual audience. People who are going to buy Dark Souls aren't going to be influenced by a pretend award, and people who are going to be influenced by some worthless stamp on the game's cover probably aren't in the Souls target demographic.

[–]BlueUnknown 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

GOTY awards are usually crap, though. Sure, it is fun to see your favorite games getting recognition, but not only is it a mostly subjective award, popularity matters a lot more than quality. Just look at 2015 for a recent example - smaller games like Age of Decadence and Underrail got no recognition whatsoever in these lists despite being better than most of the nominees. It's just a - sometimes - fun little curiosity that gets way more attention than it should. See the Oscars for another example - no fucking way it awards the best films of each year, just the ones that were most popular with a specific group of people.

Dark Souls 3 might not be nominated, but ultimately that doesn't matter much because it doesn't change how I feel about the game - I find it miles better than any of the nominees, a much more complete and appealing game than any of those could ever hope to be. Personal preference, and a very different perspective on what makes a good game. It's just the way it is - a world in which Titanfall 2 gets a GOTY nomination makes zero sense to me, so I just don't bother.

What I do find disappointing is the Dark Souls 3 community. The sheer negativity and amount of people that flat-out don't like the game in this sub is bizarre. Annoying as fuck, to be honest. Oh well.

And as a side-note, any post that starts with "I'll be downvoted for this" and then states extremely generic opinions that have been said a billion times before in this exact sub should be laughed at.

[–]Cypronis 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody cares about that award show. It's got zero credibility it's bankrolled by publishers, there are no good critics on the Panel, there's 50 ads every year, some of the categories make no sense and then there are categories they don't have but need to put in.

[–]ChikogiKron 26ポイント27ポイント  (8子コメント)

Honestly, I think it turned out worse than it's previous entries. While there was a lot of new, cool things (Like those sick boss weapon movesets), for every step forward it took two steps back.

Of course it's still a Dark Souls at heart so it's always going to be a blast to play and PvP in, but I'd prefer one of the others over it.

I personally thought DS2 was the best in terms of PVP and gameplay mechanics being added. Soul Memory was a blessing and a curse, but opinions on that vary on person to person... If they had the scaling password matchmaking of the more recent games, I think it would've easily been the best Souls game.

[–]sleeperagent 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree. DS2 got so much right pvp-wise and DS3 made quite a few design choices I hate. Still a great game, I just expected more.

[–]mitch13815 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I really wish they had gone with the corpse sacrifice bonfires, would make every new game a new experience, and unique enough to stand out from 2 and 1.

[–]Lancair77 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Replayability is a huge problem with DS3 for me. I've started like 6 characters, but only actually completed the game with one of them. There were loads of ways to complete the other two, but DS3's linear nature just makes each play through feel similar and none really stand out. 1 had loads of sequence breaking and optional content to explore, 2 had many paths to progress down for most of the game, but 3 just has a couple forks in the road. I also really preferred the combat mechanics of 2.

[–]POW_HAHA-27 points 10 minutes ago 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like those sick boss weapon movesets

?????

[–]DanteLarka 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What goty reward? Or are you just stating your personal opinion?

[–]Nexnatos 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bloodborne wasn't even nominated for best music last awards.

To me, that was WAY MORE of a shock.

[–]Emersonson 16ポイント17ポイント  (26子コメント)

I'm amazed to see this many people kind of agreeing that it shouldn't be nominated. I actually do agree with that assessment myself, but I'm surprised this many people on the subreddit think that. It's a good game, but I ultimately enjoyed Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne much more. I'm ready for From to move on to other IPs. Hell, if they ever do return to dark fantasy I hope that it's nothing like Dark Souls and certainly not a Dark Souls 4.

[–]hype348nohyp3 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean it's my GOTY, but I also have zero interest in most of the games that came out this year so my opinion doesn't mean a whole lot.

[–]Hurley_Rathmon 8ポイント9ポイント  (20子コメント)

I think after DS2 and the weird flaws in DS3 we've learned somewhat to avoid devolving into rabid fanboyism.

[–]GC146Deus Vult 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

no we don't, until the release of Ds3, everyone was bashing on ds2. just wait, whenever a Ds4 o BB2 will be released, everyone will say Ds3 is a really good game, and almost perfect.

[–]Hurley_Rathmon 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm fairly certain that most people consider (vanilla) DS2 to have superior PvP but worse PvE. It wasn't until the Scholar re-release and the DLCs that DS2's narrative got more interesting.

You might be right though.

[–]btran935 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This!!! There was even a period in the BB lifecycle where fans called DS2 superior, but after the DLC everyone pretended that never happened.

[–]Bocku 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

People have very short memory about these things.

[–]Emersonson 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can appreciate that. I don't want soulsborne style games to go the way of franchises like Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed where we all gobble up whatever yearly title we get. I'm still hope to pick up Nioh, but I wont be preordering it solely because it looks similar to Dark Souls--it has to show that it's good enough to warrant a purchase.

[–]camelCasing 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I would absolutely disagree. DS3 was loads of fun, but also frankly a let-down compared to what it could've been. And then a bunch of other periodic let-downs as they balance strangely and miss the mark on arena.

[–]TheCancerousDrakeSteam: Tusk Act 4 26ポイント27ポイント  (60子コメント)

"Dark souls 3 is not goty material"

Dark Souls 2 has a goty edition

Ex-fucking-scuse me?

[–]HighlordWaffles 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you not remember 2014 man? Nothing really fucking came out that year that wasn't from Nintendo, and what did was busted as hell.

[–]AdamNW 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

2014 was the year the X1 and PS4 were released, so it's not at all surprising to me that the triple-A line ups were incredibly lacking. Nintendo probably had it's best Wii U lineup of the console's history, and there were good indie titles as well, but ultimately it was a weak year.

[–]mitch13815 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

It doesn't though, it's SOTFS, and it's a DLC pack, not a GOTY.

[–]VerifiedCrazyPerson 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you even know what "GOTY Edition" means? Anyone can make one. I can make a game and then release a "Game of my ass" version a year later with some DLC. It's just marketing.

[–]sh9jscg 23ポイント24ポイント  (52子コメント)

Because DKs2 is by far the best thing FromSoft could come up with, also thanks to the people who hated it, fromsoft ignored ALL good mechanics that Dks2 implemented and went back to "lmao block with a fucking dagger offhand loser"

[–]TheCancerousDrakeSteam: Tusk Act 4 34ポイント35ポイント  (44子コメント)

Lets ignore its universally acknowledged lackluster base game because it had good ideas then.

[–]hype348nohyp3 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Universally acknowledged? I'll be honest I like it better than Dark 3. Not by a whole lot but I do enjoy it more, I'd still say that Dark 1 is the best though. And don't get me wrong all three are amazing games.

[–]vivianight 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know what y'all are smoking but DS3 has the best base game bosses by a country mile compared to 1 and 2. Tell me one boss (not from the DLCs!) that compares to Abyss Watchers, the Pontiff, the Twin Princes, Nameless King, Champion Gundyr or the Dancer. Other than O&S most of the base game bosses in DS1 are pretty garbage mechanically speaking compared to DS3 and Bloodborne, and DS2 is about the same. The series has grown a lot since those two games and I wouldn't replay them much if it weren't for Artorias of the Abyss and the Crowns DLCs.

[–]Abedeus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

GotY editions aren't necessarily for games that won any game of the year awards. It's just the release of a complication of the base game + DLCs.

[–]Riposte_This 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

After playing Bloodborne, I found DS3 to be alright, but almost boring.

[–]LurkerLuo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

DS3 is my game of the year with Salt and Sanctuary for second. I tend to not agree with most GOTY lists because they usually put all the big triple A titles as nominees. Almost every big triple A game has been underwhelming for me for the past few years.

[–]Hist83Blackmarsh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not shocked. Honestly, with a few exceptions, I tend to roll my eyes at a lot of GOTY nominations. I know DkS3 isn't perfect, but it's definitely been my game of the year...

More than not being nominated in the main category, I'm honestly shocked that DkS3 didn't get a place in either art direction, or the soundtrack category that it should have been a shoe-in for.

[–]ChardBotham 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dark Souls 3 is one of my favorites of the year for sure, but I think INSIDE should win purely for artistic value.

[–]HelloFr1endMoonlight in the Abyss 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

What's weird is I've put more hours into DkS3 than any other Souls game (except for maybe 1 but I think they're pretty even), yet I can understand why this isn't a GOTY nominee while BB was. Even though I only put 200 hours in BB while I'm at 500 with DkS3. I don't get it.

[–]jsticebeaver 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

BB got robbed, should have geen GOTY

[–]RWJ17 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

As much as I love every the soulsborne games...witcher was tough to beat. Even I bought it and loved it, and I was totally turned off it at first.

[–]btran935 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Old hunters plus BB blows everything in 2015 out of the water.

[–]V_AbhishekBlade of the Darkmoon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aren't the nominees decided by us, the masses?

Seems some of us have been a bit lazy...

[–]LunarWolf302 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm... i'm really surprised that people care so much about a show with shoehorned celebrities and hosted by none other than the Dorito's pope himself, like my GOTY is probably Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE and like hell someone's going to agree with me but i'm okay with that

[–]RSG2033 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah it's a strange list this year. Three of the five nominees are first person shooters. Which I think Titanfall 2, Overwatch and Doom were all very good, but I would've liked to have seen more diversity in the types of games nominated.

[–]inascime 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Out of all the games that came out this year, DS3 is the ONLY game I have spent SEVERAL(300+) hours on.

This GOTY thing is as reputable as IGN's review of AI: Isolation

--EDIT--

At least it is under the list for best RPG game

[–]Dante2k4 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As someone who has been a fan since Demons Souls, but doesn't really pay much attention to this sub, I have to say I'm a little surprised on how everyone seems to have turned on DS3. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I swear it was pretty well loved upon release.

Oh well. I think it's pretty stellar. There are some things that I think the other games did better, but I still loved my time in this game. The environments, combat, enemy design, etc still felt pretty remarkable to me :p

[–]Brave33 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You guys, goty awards are pretty much propaganda and shitposting by now, just like the oscars

[–]deckardyHeavens, she was already dead 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Okay so I don't know a lot about GOTY or what the requirements are. From the comments I can see that Overwatch, Titanfall 2, Inside, Doom, and Uncharted 4 are nominated.

I don't have a list in my head of games that came out this year but that list makes me laugh. Two of them are multiplayer fps games with no story (not sure whether Titanfall 2 has a campaign) where one is HEAVILY engineered to just be an esports game and nothing else. That does not a GOTY make imo. If Overwatch wins that title I'll never let it go. Just because a game is popular doesn't make it an achievement artistically. What the fuck.

Inside is debatable because of its length, and I know nothing of Doom except I have heard absolutely no one talking about it so I assumed it was just a 7/10 fps. The only one on that list that I would want to win is Uncharted 4.

Edit: also this comment section has just turned into circlejerk complaints about how DS2 and DS3 are both trash compared to DS1 and From should just do BB2. Sometimes I like this sub and sometimes I really don't.

[–]eamonnanchnoic 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Doom was one of the most highly rated and talked about games of the year. The general consensus was that the campaign was stellar but the multiplayer was a bit underwhelming. Story wasn't really a focus or particularly compelling but good in a self referential way.

Titanfall 2 has a single player campaign and it's excellent.

[–]xRaimon 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

The worst souls game is better than 99% of the rest (1% is The Witcher 3)

[–]doctorcrass 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

unless you value well crafted and viscerally satisfying combat systems. Then witcher 3 is firmly in the 99% dumpster with the rest.

[–]Wanderlus7 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Damn dark souls 3 is casual as fuck, I thought it was a lock for goty. But not even on the list? Come on.

[–]potatoofrage 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only white games get awards, unfortunately we've been in black world tendency since Demon's Souls

[–]ThorDoubleYoo 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'll have to disagree on this. DS3 is a fine game, but there are better ones out there this year.

DOOM comes to mind at the top of my list.

[–]ARUKET 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

Genuinely shocked to see how much this subreddit apparently hates the game (and worships DS2).