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[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (0子コメント)

I have not seen a civil, informative post in this comment section in the past 8 or so hours. Because of this I will now lock the thread.

Congratulations on making this the third most controversial and the second most highly commented feature in SROTD history!

edit: oh and for the record, I've been banned from /r/altright for the past 3 months. Just in case anybody actually, unironically thinks I'm a nazi mod.

[–]-Lautrec- 764ポイント765ポイント  (37子コメント)

But as we all know; Reddit is extremely liberally biased. Ultimately we will be banned if for no other reason than we’ve become too popular.

Reddit is so liberally biased that every second /r/all submission comes from the-donald

[–]Carl_B 395ポイント396ポイント  (6子コメント)

Don't let facts get in the way of a persecution complex!

[–]nenyim 156ポイント157ポイント  (1子コメント)

The alt-right warned us. Persecution complex, the PC culture where you can't call a racist a racist, feels before reals, the safe spaces or keyboard warriors like the_donald.

The more time pass the more they resemble the strawmen they love to hate.

[–]20person 85ポイント86ポイント  (0子コメント)

The more time pass the more they resemble the strawmen they love to hate.

They've just been projecting the whole time.

[–]Lord_Kek 142ポイント143ポイント  (10子コメント)

It would be every post but they had to nerf r/all.

[–]stubing 71ポイント72ポイント  (9子コメント)

It wasn't so much as a nerf, but more of the Admins removing that sticky voting trick.

[–]Lord_Kek 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

It wasn't so much that they modified reddit's algorithm so they could stop a certain sub's posts getting to the front page. It's that they modified reddit's algorithm to stop a certain sub's posts from getting to the front page.

[–]quantumhovercraft 33ポイント34ポイント  (7子コメント)

It wasn't so much that they modified reddit's algorithm so they could stop a certain sub's posts getting to the front page. It's that they modified reddit's algorithm to stop a certain sub's posts covering the entire front page.

[–]oscillator- 61ポイント62ポイント  (4子コメント)

Its the conservative mantra now. Even though they just won the election nobody hears or cares about them still. They are going to keep throwing political tantrums just like the GOP. I am fairly convinced conservatives as a whole and the GOP have no policy other than if the DEMs or a liberal thought of it it is bad. In theory they should stand for small government and low spending but neither of those is true either. Its a party for the rich that manipulate the idiots inside of it to think they are working for them. Then they'll cry this is why we voted trump! Admitting they have no inner functioning other than knee jerk cry baby reactions.

[–]Mr_Barry_Shitpeas 78ポイント79ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yes, so biased against them that manipulating votes never got them banned.

[–]CuckzBTFO 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have.....you been to /r/politics or /r/news? Especially during the election cycle?

[–]In_Liberty 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It would have been almost every post if Reddit hasn't adjusted their algorithm to suppress t_d.

[–]moistowelettes 605ポイント606ポイント  (373子コメント)

I think this sub is running out of subs

[–]BatMunki┴┬┴┤( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬ 92ポイント93ポイント  (180子コメント)

you try finding new subreddits that have 500+ subscribers and that haven't been featured before in /r/SubredditOfTheDay whilst also having enough substance in them to make an interesting read and then making sure that you have a post for every day of every month in the year... its hard man

[–]SaturdayKid 442ポイント443ポイント  (20子コメント)

There's absolutely no excuse for this.

[–]magicsebi 121ポイント122ポイント  (9子コメント)

Just post /r/catgifs three times in a row instead of promoting far right fuckos... Bam, solved!

[–]Koi_ 26ポイント27ポイント  (8子コメント)

You'd have no problem if it was a far-left communist subreddit.

[–]Ultimate_Cabooser 71ポイント72ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm pretty sure a lot of people would. SRS is considered a far-left sub and lots of people shit on them all the time.

[–]Koi_ 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's different. Everyone hates SRS because the people there go out of their way to break the rules of Reddit and be terrible people to others. /r/altright, a far right subreddit, keeps to itself and follows the rules of Reddit and it gets shit on. If a communist subreddit that also kept to itself and respected the rules of Reddit, thus being a far-left subreddit, there would be little opposition. My point is there's an unnecessary amount of hate for right-wing ideologies comparative to left-wing ideologies.

[–]effa94 51ポイント52ポイント  (2子コメント)

There is quite a difference between "everyone shares everything" and "all non-white people should be killed"

[–]Koi_ 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Give me an example of a communist government where there wasn't a mass famine or terrible depression that lead to economic stagnation and starvation.

[–]return_0_ 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tito's Yugoslavia.

[–]return_0_ 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe because there's a difference between a concept that is economically unfeasible (to most people, at least) and a concept that promotes racial hatred and violence.

[–]Fastball14 41ポイント42ポイント  (8子コメント)

SHUT IT DOWN

[–]JWAxeMan 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

The end of your juvenile club will be the minute internet anonymity goes away. When we see that 90% of your users are in high school or below.

[–]Fastball14 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Donald Trump is president of the United States of America

[–]JWAxeMan 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

Donald Trump isn't alt-right and his cabinet will be full of typical boring neo-cons, as you very well know. And an orthodox Jewish son-in-law and daughter.

[–]HuffinWithHoff 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except he just appointed Steve Bannon as his chief strategist, Steve Bannon is like the biggest figure in 'alt-rightism'

[–]ErrolFuckingFlynn 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fact that the bare minimum of opposition is all it takes for you to start shrieking canned phrases is probably a good sign that your death cult ideology is completely intellectually bankrupt.

[–]Dominator27 235ポイント236ポイント  (30子コメント)

Why don't you at least not promote nazis. It can't be that hard to do a quick scan of that sub and conclude these people are racist nazis and then move on to another eligible subreddit.

Also Why should racist bigots get a award because your too lazy to find non racist sexist subreddits?

[–]XENOVICE 263ポイント264ポイント  (19子コメント)

Because what you do here is so important. That's how you rationalize promoting this? Jesus.

[–]qTimes2 114ポイント115ポイント  (47子コメント)

I don't believe /r/ainbow, /r/Islam or /r/Mexico have been featured before. Knowing the controversy some of those subjects generate on reddit I'm sure you'd be able to come up with plenty of interesting questions.

Feel free to PM me if you need even more suggestions.

[–]BatMunki┴┬┴┤( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬ 24ポイント25ポイント  (44子コメント)

I will look into featuring all three of those, thank you

[–]umatik 67ポイント68ポイント  (43子コメント)

I'm sure your alt right Co mod will love that discussion...

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 27ポイント28ポイント  (42子コメント)

We have featured many subreddits that I personally dislike. Why must you project your own fear of differing opinions onto me?

[–]umatik 78ポイント79ポイント  (18子コメント)

Who says I fear differing opinions?

I'm a non white antifascist that shakes hands and discusses with old school neo nazis who have called me vermin that don't try to sugar coat your position like you new cowards do.

Sick strawman failure. This is why even outright neonazis laugh at your new breed and don't respect you for failing to try to rationalise your thoughts with the unsavoury outcome of it.

My post had nothing to do with you fearing those subs. I just said I bet you'll love the discussion.

Stop projecting.

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 14ポイント15ポイント  (16子コメント)

I just said I bet you'll love the discussion...

My apologies! I assumed you were being sarcastic. My b

[–]umatik 41ポイント42ポイント  (15子コメント)

I was being sarcastic.

That still didn't mean I think you fear them.

For an Internet dwelling white nationalist I'd expect better reading comprehension and wittier retorts. Even the thugs you're too scared to be as open as can follow a train of thought better, and all they do is get punched in the face and drink all the time..

[–]Nidna 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

whines about strawman

spends the next few posts kvetching about strawmen he himself has propped up

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

Your statement seems to have gone from sarcastic to supposedly not sarcastic and then back again sarcastic. I no longer believe it's my fault that your point (if it does exist) is too difficult to find.

[–]Doldenberg 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude, you proudly present a subreddit with the headline "Reddit's very own NatSoc community." What is there not to fear about that?

[–]Ron-Paultergeist 2ポイント3ポイント  (21子コメント)

Have any of those subreddits advocated the principle that you are an inherently inferior human being based on your race or gender?

[–]BullishOnTheBear 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

So promoting the altright is a no no, but promoting a religion that condones pedophilia is A-ok?

[–]Njallstormborn 80ポイント81ポイント  (16子コメント)

You legitimize these people by featuring them here.

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 58ポイント59ポイント  (0子コメント)

On purpose. Apparently there's a neo-nazi alt-righter on the mod team.

[–]throvvvvavvvvay 5ポイント6ポイント  (14子コメント)

So you think that an entire group of people don't count as people because they have different opinions than you!? Sickening!

[–]Njallstormborn 18ポイント19ポイント  (7子コメント)

I never said you weren't people. I said you shouldn't be legitimized. Nazis should not be tolerated.

[–]throvvvvavvvvay 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

You said it, just without those exact words. Everyone knows what you meant. The saddest part is you don't even realize how full of hate you are. You actually think labeling people as enemies makes you a good person!

Saying Nazi like that is just a slur. It's like saying the n-word, but for white people.

[–]Prime618 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

" you shouldn't be legitimized " + " Nazis should not be tolerated." = " an entire group of people don't count as people "

/r/WhatDimensionAmIin

[–]Rymdkommunist 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not because you have different opinions but because you have harmful opinions.

[–]throvvvvavvvvay 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Your opinions riot and set people on fire. My opinions simply want to be left alone. Take a look in the mirror with your harmful opinions.

[–]Zorkamork 42ポイント43ポイント  (17子コメント)

I'm sorry that it's apparently too hard to find a sub that isn't literally proud white nationalists to feature. This sounds like a very hard job no one is making you do, guess you had no choice but to feature nazis!

[–]BatMunki┴┬┴┤( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬ 4ポイント5ポイント  (16子コメント)

heard it all mate, maybe read through the comments first

[–]Zorkamork 21ポイント22ポイント  (15子コメント)

The sub you moderate literally endorsed neo-nazis because finding a place that was interesting was hard. I don't think you've heard nearly enough.

[–]Merchent343 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do literally any other sub. Even r/Wargame, and that'd be utterly uninteresting.

[–]BMRGould 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

Redo old ones... It's okay to repost. This is not okay though.

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 30ポイント31ポイント  (190子コメント)

When we feature subs you don't like that doesn't mean we're running out of subs, it means we're featuring subs you don't like. The srotd team is a diverse group of individuals each with their own interests and style. That is why we're able to select a new interesting subreddit every single day.

[–]SpectreOfLenin 478ポイント479ポイント  (72子コメント)

Yeah, that's the problem with Nazis.

Not the mass genocide and ethnic cleansing.

No, it's the fact that they have different opinions is the REAL issue!

[–]cookingfragsyum 46ポイント47ポイント  (3子コメント)

Fucking A-game smackdown in this thread, Spectre. You are a fine example.

[–]Eggmont 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Considering how well SpectreOfLenin is doing in this thread, maybe they should feature /r/FULLCOMMUNISM instead

[–]cookingfragsyum 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes please. Maybe that would turn people into critical thinkers instead of nazi cucks.

[–]Sansa_Culotte_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's the problem with Nazis.

Not the mass genocide and ethnic cleansing.

No, it's the fact that they have different opinions is the REAL issue!

This is what the mods of this sub actually believe.

[–]dullship 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right? It's like, why won't people just give Nazi's a chance?

[–]Hell_Libertine 206ポイント207ポイント  (48子コメント)

Shame on you for promoting hatred. What's next? You're going to link subs promoting ISIS? You're promoting fucking Neo-Nazis so that won't surprise me.

[–]Fubby2 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit. The only place where forced diversity is a sin, until you are supporting Nazis.

[–]Dominator27 92ポイント93ポイント  (27子コメント)

remember moderator when you give out this award you give these people a voice, however they don't deserve a voice for their racist propaganda that takes advantage of insecure whites nor a award for it

Edit: Protest Subreddit is up /r/goodsubredditoftheday

[–]Zorkamork 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

The srotd team is a diverse group of individuals each with their own interests and style.

So then who, exactly, on the mod team has an 'interest' in white nationalism? Who exactly supported this because I'd love to know exactly what amount of the people in charge here looked at a white pride group and said 'yep, just a valid opinion like anything else'.

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is the SROTD team too diverse for you?

[–]Zorkamork 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just am curious if this is something that the majority agrees on or if this is one person who just HAPPENS to have a lot of crossover pushing his stupid views...

[–]akjax 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

How much more diverse is SROTD going to get? Do any of the mods here think that there's a line that should not be crossed or should we expect to see /r/CuteFemaleCorpses being featured soon?

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't remember if we've ever featured a quarantined sub before. I don't think we have any rules against it but I think it's probably a bad idea just for the fact that the majority of the userbase will never actually be able to go to the sub itself.

[–]dakerb12 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats not an excuse

[–]f3ldman2 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look at you! Opening up our minds and filling it with racists and nazis! Thanks so much for expanding our horizons!

[–]Sansa_Culotte_ 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

subs you don't like

Yea, being a Nazi is just like enjoying light beer instead of dark beer!

How can you be against preferring light beer? See! Nothing wrong with Nazis.

[–]aggie1391 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Interesting?? Interesting?? This group brags about their racism and anti-Semitism. They literally hate people just for their birth. They literally think white people are superior. That's not fucking interesting. That's unacceptable.

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

What the hell is wrong with you? That's a false equivalency to begin with. The negative aspect of giving a microphone to nazis isn't a matter of "like" and "dislike".

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

What the hell is wrong with you?

That's dangerously close to incivility. I appreciate your contribution to the discussion but please understand there is no reason to be aggressive or rude.

[–]aggie1391 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The entire alt right movement is based on incivility. Don't be talking about people being uncivil when a literal white supremacist, anti-Semitic, homophobic movement is being promoted.

[–]Phunk131 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do we really need to give actual Nazis a fair shake?

I mean...they're fucking Nazis.

[–]sverzino 233ポイント234ポイント  (25子コメント)

I like how alt-righters think they're so much smarter than everyone else but they placed their faith into a failed businessman who has never held firmly onto an opinion in his life.

[–]Phunk131 153ポイント154ポイント  (8子コメント)

"He's draining the swamp."

Cabinet full of career politicians and corporate lobbyists.

[–]thekangzwewuz 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

Strange definition of "failed businessman" when the guy in question is worth billions.

But I agree, Trump is not a good choice for president. I think even he might agree with that. The point was that everyone else was much worse.

And most people who voted for Trump aren't "alt-right."

[–]anechoicmedia 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'd sooner install a random number generator as president than a lifelong establishment Democrat. Trump is an incompetent boor but at least he wasn't telegraphing open disdain for me on the campaign trail.

[–]sverzino 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's a fair way to feel. I don't agree with your random number generator metaphor because I believe in, well, not blowing up the system because I'm a dissatisfied voter. However, I get what you mean. Democrats fucked up. Clinton can't, and didn't win, after alienating so many potential voters.

[–]CantSayISaidSo 809ポイント810ポイント  (129子コメント)

I'd like to put a huge target on my back and let all you fascist fucks know that myself and my two very white, very Anglo-descended brothers have all procreated with women of color.

Death to your vision of America. I'm proud to be doing my part.

[–]atheistness 181ポイント182ポイント  (1子コメント)

You sir are a true patriot. Have an upvote.

[–]wantanclan 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

I might be wrong, but aren't patriots those pussies throwing hissy fits when some sports player kneels during whatever song?

[–]TheManInsideMe 212ポイント213ポイント  (3子コメント)

This post is awesome and you're awesome. I've been waiting to get my 'race traitor' card for a while.

How's your inbox doing?

[–]CantSayISaidSo 171ポイント172ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh, man, there are currently so many fascists in my inbox, one would think I was sponsoring a book burning.

The good news is it makes it easy to identify and block all the neo-Nazis so I don't have to see their drivel on my Reddit feed.

[–]umatik 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

The best kind of nation is miscegenation!

[–]No_Politics_ 171ポイント172ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good job Reddit! The sub of the day literally has Hitler in their banner. Literally fucking Hitler.

[–]RuthBuzzisback 1011ポイント1012ポイント  (458子コメント)

Are you fucking kidding me..?

[–]YopperApe 391ポイント392ポイント  (231子コメント)

Wow.

Just wow.

I can't even...

[–]Agastopia 411ポイント412ポイント  (227子コメント)

Remember guys, they aren't racist

I see you're new to the alt right.

to demonize all Jew's just seems too similar to me to blacks demonizing all whites for the success of many.

Are whites actively undermining blacks? No? Then it's not comparable.

Listen, I'm sure good jews exist. I mean there's the color of crime guy and Paul Gottfried. Outside of that though? Zip. Nada. Zilch.

encourage you to look for exceptions. I tried for a long time to find "good jew" exceptions but consistently they would start jewing somehow and come out in favour of everything we're against. Like the "conservative" jews who ends up being in favour of muslim immigration. Or "libertarian" jews who end up being in favour of importing mestizos. Or "free speech" jews who end up being in favour of political correctness. It never fails, they always jew you in the end.

I can agree there is theoretically a capacity for certain jews to contribute in a positive manner. However it is like finding a unicorn pretty much. And the chance he's gonna jew you and undermine your entire movement is magnitudes higher. Hence for our own preservation we can't really risk anything.

[–]YopperApe 180ポイント181ポイント  (143子コメント)

Remember guys, they aren't racist

Yes we are. That's one of the defining features of the alt-right, that we're racist. Where did you get the idea that it was otherwise?

[–]Agastopia 343ポイント344ポイント  (57子コメント)

At least you admit it

[–]YopperApe 69ポイント70ポイント  (56子コメント)

Now that that's out of the way, what was your point?

[–]Belostoma 285ポイント286ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the point was that being a proud racist makes you a fucking idiot.

You probably think you're really clever because you know that the statistical distributions of some aptitudes aren't identical across all races. Of course they're not; at a fine enough resolution, no two demographics have exactly the same distribution of anything except by pure, unlikely coincidence.

However, differences in mean characteristics between races are so small compared to the variance in those distributions that knowing somebody's race is of practically no predictive value. There's really no place for the study of those differences outside of a minor role in obscure academic debates about human evolution, nature vs nurture, etc. Judging someone based on their race is less rational than judging them based on whether they're left or right-handed, which is correlated with quite a few other interesting characteristics, but even that is not a very useful indicator.

It's much more sensible to judge someone based on signals they've chosen to communicate that reflect something about their personality or intellect. For example, when you write that the Jews "have to go," you are signaling that you are one of the dumbest Nazi pieces of shit in the world. You really need go back and look closely at your own educational career and realize that you have no place challenging people much smarter than yourself, i.e. most of us. We understand things on a level you never will. Just accept your own personal inferiority rather than clinging to the delusion that your race makes you superior. Try to overcome what you lack in intelligence by being a decent human being; you might be stuck being stupid, but you don't always have to be a stupid piece of shit. That's your choice.

[–]survivalsong 190ポイント191ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love this attitude that if you just front up about being racist people will be stumped somehow. Like if you own it you'll take all the power out of it. We already know that alt-right is built on unreconstructed old-school racism.

[–]Mr_Barry_Shitpeas 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well isn't that obvious? If something is regarded as an inherently bad thing but the person accused of it doesn't see the problem with it, of course that's gonna happen. That could happen with ANY insult or criticism.

[–]RushofBlood52 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, that was basically it.

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[–]EnobyRavenWay 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi my name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way and I have long ebony black hair (that's how I got my name) with purple streaks and red tips that reaches my mid-back and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell me I look like Amy Lee (AN: if u don't know who she is get da hell out of here!). I'm not related to Gerard Way but I wish I was because he's a major fucking hottie. I'm a vampire but my teeth are straight and white. I have pale white skin. I'm also a witch, and I go to a magic school called Hogwarts in England where I'm in the seventh year (I'm seventeen). I'm a goth (in case you couldn't tell) and I wear mostly black. I love Hot Topic and I buy all my clothes from there. For example today I was wearing a black corset with matching lace around it and a black leather miniskirt, pink fishnets and black combat boots. I was wearing black lipstick, white foundation, black eyeliner and red eye shadow. I was walking outside Hogwarts. It was snowing and raining so there was no sun, which I was very happy about. A lot of preps stared at me. I put up my middle finger at them.

[–]Mulche_ 63ポイント64ポイント  (24子コメント)

Remember guys, "that's racist" isn't a counter-argument.

[–]_The_Burn_ 52ポイント53ポイント  (18子コメント)

Although racism is a cardinal sin to most, within the Alt Right, it is irrelevant. There is a dichotomy between the standards of morality.

[–]Theige 2ポイント3ポイント  (16子コメント)

Insults like this have completely lost their meaning all over the political spectrum because of incorrect use

I am a Bernie socialist and they have lost all menaing to me. Any accusation of this type i immediately assume is exaggerated or completely made up

[–]Ron-Paultergeist 29ポイント30ポイント  (14子コメント)

"The ultimate goal of the Alt Right is to promote White Identity"

-Source: The Alt-Right

[–]Sansa_Culotte_ 85ポイント86ポイント  (2子コメント)

Correct, it's a statement of fact.

[–]Desay 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a very effective means to silence and win arguments and its over usage is starting to burn people out as evidenced by the events of Nov 8.

[–]Sansa_Culotte_ 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

a very effective means to silence and win arguments and its over usage is starting to burn people out as evidenced by the events of Nov 8.

As I said, a statement of fact.

[–]niton 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

We as a society say some things are reprehensible enough to expunge. Murder and theft for example. Civilized society decided that while these do provide significant benefit to the people performing them, it isn't proper considering those hurt by these same actions. Similarly, we as a society decided that discrimination and bigotry based on race was reprehensible and unjust. So yes, by being racist you're going against the norms of any modern, civilized society. It is a counter-argument and a very effective one.

[–]quaerere_veritatem 14ポイント15ポイント  (34子コメント)

...well what is your counter? And remember: not every member speaks for the group. Why don't you target Israeli subs or groups for being the most "racist" country on the planet. They do ethnic DNA test for entry and have a machine gun mounted border wall, and take in no "refugees." Pointing out the hypocrisy and subversion of the Jewish tribe is a core principle in the Alt Right.

[–]flint97 74ポイント75ポイント  (12子コメント)

Counter to what? The claim that this guy has only met stereotypical jews? We are not clairvoyant. And why should random jews who quite possibly do not even live in Israel be forced to answer for the racism there?

[–]Sansa_Culotte_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why are you bothered by Israel's racism when you see racism as a good thing?

[–]quaerere_veritatem 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lol, very good, now we are getting somewhere... I'm not against the ethno-state of Israel. I am against the hypocrisy of those that promote Israel and defend it while shouting "racist" at every white person with an argument. If you look into the alt right you would know this. Absolutely no one, I mean no one, in the alt right is morally against Israel's Jewish ethnic policies. We do point out the double standard, typically by Jews which are -ironically- the main opponents to white nationalism

[–]Javalavadingdong 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I literally cant even right now

[–]TheManInsideMe 57ポイント58ポイント  (1子コメント)

My exact reaction.

Followed by,

'Wait for real?'

Then,

'Am I on r/hatesubreddits-- nope'

Then,

'Maybe there's a reason-- no he said race realism in the first line'

And finally,

uncontrollable vomiting

[–]Javalavadingdong 46ポイント47ポイント  (210子コメント)

No, grow up and realize people have different opinions than your own.

[–]Agastopia 291ポイント292ポイント  (181子コメント)

White supremacy is awesome!

[–]BatMunki┴┬┴┤( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬[M] 71ポイント72ポイント  (71子コメント)

No its not.

[–]Agastopia 302ポイント303ポイント  (52子コメント)

I feel like you don't know what subreddit you've made subreddit of the day...

[–]BatMunki┴┬┴┤( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬ 95ポイント96ポイント  (43子コメント)

wasn't written by me or my choice to post it, if it was I would have not featured it

[–]Javalavadingdong 33ポイント34ポイント  (82子コメント)

What's so wrong with being proud of your race? Every other race except whites can have pride for their race.

[–]guncha 135ポイント136ポイント  (75子コメント)

Every other race pride is as dumb as white pride.

[–]RedPillDessert 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

Tell that to Wikipedia: http://i.imgur.com/LsuO1lq.jpg

[–]Njallstormborn 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well when Nazi sympathizers and the KKK are major faces of a movement, its bound to be bad for its image. The general view of one racial pride movement over another doesn't make the idea of racial pride a good one.

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fascists, nazis, alt-righters and so on love to use "white pride" as a cover for general hatred and fear/insecurity of others. It's been abused that way for hundreds of years and the Wikipedia article correctly points that out.

[–]GodEmperorTrump1488 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

bullshit. You wouldnt dare go up to a black guy with his fist in the air and tell him black power is dumb.

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 55ポイント56ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fascists, nazis, alt-righters and so on love to use "white pride" as a cover for general hatred as well as genuine racism and fear/insecurity of others.

"Black pride" has historically meant "I am human just like you, let me vote, let me go to school, stop discriminating". "White pride" has historically meant the opposite.

[–]GodEmperorTrump1488 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

oh so now words mean whatever the fuck you want them to when you want them to because of your feelings. Oh ok.

[–]oscillator- 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

in fear of getting socked in the face, no i wouldn't. However, black power is dumb, white power is dumb, whatever race power is stupid. Anyone that bases opinion on race about anything is a fucking retard.

[–]MarcusCamillius 31ポイント32ポイント  (15子コメント)

You should tell that to BLM, la Raza and other racial pride groups. I know you won't, because you only hate White people, and you want us to be individuals while encouraging other groups to have racial solidarity.

[–]guncha 131ポイント132ポイント  (11子コメント)

I will call them dumb if they come here and start arguing that black or hispanic pride is somehow an exception. I will call you dumb too if you keep jumping to conclusions:

because you only hate White people

You capitalized "white"? Really?

[–]quaerere_veritatem 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do that too, I also capitalize Black

[–]MarcusCamillius 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol no you won't. You'll spend your time calling out White people for loving their heritage because you hate White people.

[–]TyTheRegularGuy 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Black lives matter is more about "hey stop killing us, we want to live" it's not a racial pride group. It's about raising awareness for what's happening to them.

[–]Sansa_Culotte_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

None of those statements are counter-arguments.

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's nothing wrong with it. Fascists, nazis, alt-righters and so on love to use "white pride" as a cover for general hatred and fear/insecurity of others.

[–]GreatApeNiggy 13ポイント14ポイント  (27子コメント)

But that's not the propaganda that people are constantly bombarded with.

[–]Yenwodyah_ 80ポイント81ポイント  (8子コメント)

How many lynchings have black pride movements carried out? How many nations have black supremacist governments invaded?

[–]cjf_colluns 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're trying to argue with a user named "great ape niggy"

[–]Njallstormborn 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

That's your propaganda? The preview of a goddamn Wikipedia article?

Imagine walking down the street and everywhere you look there are bathrooms and water fountains and fucking benches that you are banned from using. That is propaganda. Imagine if every image of man with your skin color was that of an ugly charicature with violent tendency and childlike intellect. That's propaganda, and in America it was the norm for decades and decades.

[–]GreatApeNiggy 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

I've never seen a white's only water fountain. I have, however, been constantly bombarded with an explicit anti-white narrative in media, education, and entertainment.

[–]Njallstormborn 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

That's interesting, because I have never been bombarded with anything of the sort

[–]Sansa_Culotte_ 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL@ Nazis crying over being called Nazis.

[–]dangerbird2 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is a difference between race and ethnicity. Ethnicity is a self-identification based on both genetic links and a common set of history, tradition, language, and/or religion of held by a population group. Race is a social construct that was invented around the time of Europe's age of Exploration that generalizes the tens of thousands of ethnic groups around the world into five or so "races". Race is often conflated with ethnic origin but usually has very little genealogical or cultural basis. In the United States especially, race has more similar features to a socio-political caste system than actual ethnic divisions.

When you ask about non-European groups having "racial pride", this is often an expression of ethnic pride rather than American racial castes. Although American black pride movements often seek solidarity with Africa and other African diaspora cultures, it is based around the distinct Afro-American ethnicity (African immigrants often have as much trouble assimilating to Afro-American culture as European immigrants do to white America). Likewise, Asian pride centers around actual places of origin: there are Koreatowns or Chinatowns in many American cities, but you would never see an "Asiatown". Finally, there is certainly room for European-descent Americans to show pride in their ethnic tradition, just based around real cultures rather than artificial racial boundaries. There is absolutely nothing wrong with showing Irish pride at St. Patrick's day, German pride during Oktoberfest, or even celebrating distinctly American ethnicities like Appalachian or Louisiana Cajun peoples.

[–]Sansa_Culotte_ 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why would you be proud of something that has no relation to your own actions or achievements?

Are you proud of your fingers, too?

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's nothing wrong with it. Fascists, nazis, alt-righters and so on love to use "white pride" as a cover for general hatred and fear/insecurity of others.

[–]frymastermeat 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

DAE Why is there no White Entertainment Television?

[–]magicsebi 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pride for your race is dumb regardless of your race. How about working on personal achievements and priding on your progress as a person, instead of boasting about something completely arbitrary?

[–]penguinseatsocks 66ポイント67ポイント  (15子コメント)

this narrative has been the absolute, hands-down stupidest one following the election. "don't be mad because your candidate lost!" really? are we voting for the next fucking dorito flavor?

[–]dangerbird2 49ポイント50ポイント  (13子コメント)

The people who complain about the anti-Trump protesters are not part of a marginalized group and do not love or care about people from such a group. The worst that can come out of a bad president is slightly higher taxes (or judging by the age of most of the alt-right trolls, just their parents' taxes) and having to pretend to be Canadian when travelling abroad. They don't have to worry about their places of worship being attacked, being shot for wearing a hoodie, losing access to medically necessary birth control or abortions, forced into pseudo-psychological abuse for one's sexuality, or having basic services denied because of race or sexual orientation.

[–]waitokaybut 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't say that! Don't you know it's attitudes like that that got Trump elected!!!

Don't criticize them, you'll offend them and they'll do stupid shit and it'll be YOUR fault!

[–]Phunk131 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

"You lost. Get over it."

Waves confederate flag.

[–]itsnotlupus 283ポイント284ポイント  (77子コメント)

I see this sub is exploring the fine line between being morally neutral and being morally bankrupt.

Will they find the line? Stay tuned.

[–]Dominator27 478ポイント479ポイント  (14子コメント)

Hey anyone who happens to read this. Altright got featured because the writer is a bias mod who used his power to promote his garbage beliefs. He posts in mutiple pro-Trump subreddits and rants about SJWs and his comments here clearly prove he agrees with them. I thought Trumpers would be againist bias mods considering how much they complained about r/politics! SAD! This guy let his personal bias chose who to nominate for the award SROTD. Oh and his avatar is a nazi anime girl [the girl is pulled straight from the post] damning proof right there that this mod is with the altright (altright loves memes and anime) but cleary altright is not nazis of course not, just "racist realists" or "people who take pride in being white". We need to stand up to this mod's corruption of this subreddit and how he rigged the system to get nazis featured on this subreddit because he is one. We will start a movement and start a new Subreddit!!! /r/goodsubredditoftheday!

Hey mods don't remove this unless you want to be a facist! Because that's how free speech works!/s

[–]Kropotqueer 99ポイント100ポイント  (4子コメント)

by the way, this is the largest alt right sub on the net.

just in case anyone was wondering whether they were actually nazis.

[–]bob1689321 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

faggots and je

Ctrl-w

[–]cjf_colluns 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Their list of influences are all white supremacists.

[–]hogwon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

"cucked Congress". Alright enough of that.

[–]LordofNarwhals 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"The alt-right is just a euphemism for Nazism." - The Daily Stormer

[–]akjax 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Literally the only thing worth reading on this entire page.

Good idea. It would be a nice companion to /r/UpliftingNews. In fact, that would be a great sub to feature!

[–]BullishOnTheBear 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why is it that people who get so butthurt over racism have such poor command of English?

[–]IVIaskerade 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh and his avatar is a nazi anime girl

I mean, really? That is your "damning evidence"? Lol

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

You are not being uncivil (at least in this comment) so I see no reason to remove this. You assume that my strict adherence to the principle of freedom of expression is just a cover for underlying bias. That is just not true.

[–]5onWood 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you want to use your freedom of expression to promote racists most of us are going to use our freedom of expression to tell you how we feel about racists and the people that promote them.

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is perfectly acceptable! I feel like I've already stated that many many times throughout this thread. I want there to be an open dialogue between the very diverse communities on reddit.

[–]Dominator27 330ポイント331ポイント  (54子コメント)

What the Fuck! The Alt right gets featured it's like r/theredpill all over again. First Furry porn then a bunch of KKK endorsers who believe nonsense like the "white genocide" conspiracy. A bunch of neo-nazis (with pepes) don't deserve this reward!

Edit: I've created a protest Subreddit! To protest clear mod bias and giving a voice to some of the most digusting people on reddit /r/goodsubredditoftheday

[–]tyrroi 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

Subreddit of the Day is for highlighting interesting communities, not things you politically agree or disagree with.

[–]quaerere_veritatem 14ポイント15ポイント  (32子コメント)

KKK? Conspiracy? Neo-Nazis? goodness, can you be anymore ignorant?

[–]Nurgle 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

A lot of hateful things being said in this thread. What is the PC term for neo-nazis?

[–]ItSaidMakeAUsername 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fascists? Just 'Nazis'? Mentally disabled? Take your pick.

[–]Nidna 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congrats on your 68 subs, champ! You're already going places, stick it to them ebil gnadzis!

[–]Captain_Arrrg 153ポイント154ポイント  (46子コメント)

Bunch of white people trying to make themselves feel better about being worthless by associating themselves with achievements they had absolutely nothing to do with, based solely on thier melanin content. Makes total sense me.

[–]ProudWhiteMann 16ポイント17ポイント  (43子コメント)

Not really it's mostly about combating white guilt making sure we don't become minorities in our own lands and recognizing racial differences.

[–]FuriousTarts 113ポイント114ポイント  (9子コメント)

Maybe being a minority wouldn't be so bad if you didn't treat minorities like shit.

[–]ProudWhiteMann 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

Tell me one non white country were minorities are treated better than in the West also tell me about a country with more troublesome minorities than Western ones.

[–]BaloneyFactory 47ポイント48ポイント  (6子コメント)

  1. South Africa

  2. South Africa

[–]Nidna 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ah, yes. The country literally genociding whites. Fine example!

[–]Dominator27 41ポイント42ポイント  (3子コメント)

Your a joke right?

[–]I_am_become_shitlord 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're exaggerating, but this is happening. If you're white and you're not already rich in south africa you're actually kind of fucked today.

Relatively speaking, minorities are treated incredibly well in the west. Like so well that it should be obvious if you just actually think about it for yourself and put aside the propaganda from the left. We literally have "affirmative action" in the U.S. Think about how crazy that is from a historical perspective. Do you think middle eastern countries are giving affirmative action to the various ethnic and religious minorities in those regions?

[–]IVIaskerade 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, South Africa basically went from white supremacist apartheid to a nominally equal but still deeply racist society to the point where university students are destroying art because it was made by white people.

Don't even get me started on how both whites and black seem to hate "coloured" people.

[–]Leduski 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're* a joke right?

[–]thekangzwewuz 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, the South African Utopia

[–]EthnicSeparatist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"You had it coming, whitey."

You're the thing we're trying to avoid.

[–]Njallstormborn 51ポイント52ポイント  (26子コメント)

our own land

I want you to google "native american"

[–]I_am_become_shitlord 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

I want you to google "Europe"

[–]Njallstormborn 14ポイント15ポイント  (7子コメント)

Which part? It's not just one big conglomerate.

[–]I_am_become_shitlord 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Any part. Every part. Every people deserves it's own homeland. Europe is unquestionably ours. There's a reason why nationalism is rising throughout Europe. Turns out when you try to mix Germans and people who violently hate Germans it doesn't work out so well and everyone's miserable.

What do you think about the Cologne attacks? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

[–]Njallstormborn 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

every people deserves its own homeland

Then leave the Americas

[–]theaccountismine 216ポイント217ポイント  (41子コメント)

the SPLC literally has a profile on the alt right. it is a self professed white supremacist group.

if anyone else is sick of this shit, imzy is public and needs a bigger userbase. Nazis need not apply.

[–]BullishOnTheBear 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Uh they also think a cartoon frog meme is a white nationalist symbol. So yea.

[–]FishfoxNuro 36ポイント37ポイント  (0子コメント)

It got turned into one. Even the creator of it did an interview about that.

[–]markovich04 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

White nationalists made it their symbol. Because they're stupid.

[–]itsnotlupus 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's about as meaningful as laughing at people who thinks parenthesis are a symbol of hate.

They can be. So can dumb green frogs.

[–]xfLyFPS 42ポイント43ポイント  (31子コメント)

SPLC also thinks fucking Infowars is a nazi site. They're a joke.

[–]theaccountismine 131ポイント132ポイント  (9子コメント)

Stunningly, a guy who constantly shouts about (((globalists))) is loved by anti semites. Who would've thought?

[–]Karmaisforsuckers 211ポイント212ポイント  (9子コメント)

So the SPLC is right again

[–]xfLyFPS 32ポイント33ポイント  (8子コメント)

I don't see any swastikas and calls to gas the kikes and lynch the niggers on Infowars. That's the Daily Stormer.

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 100ポイント101ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's a site run by white supremacists that promotes the same things. The rhetoric is just less inflammatory.

[–]ControlBlue 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Or maybe you are full of shit like all the people spouting "white supremacists" left and right??

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Alex Jones is openly bigoted. With the amount of denial you're going through right now it sounds like the only one full of shit is you.

[–]Bad-Hombre 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bigoted against who ? The nazi globalists he always talks about ? lol

You sure he's a white supremacist ?

[–]Koi_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alex Jones is Jewish.

[–]Doldenberg 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't see any swastikas and calls to gas the kikes and lynch the niggers on Infowars.

Seriously, that's supposed to be the height of the bar that we should look for?

[–]FishfoxNuro 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's gotta defend his favourite news source.

[–]FuckTrumpWithAGlock 54ポイント55ポイント  (9子コメント)

That site that denies that the holocaust happened is a Nazi site? NO WAAAAAAAAAAAY.

[–]Heyitskristin918 36ポイント37ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean Infowars does hate Jewish people

[–]thekangzwewuz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Alt-Right is not much of a "group" or unified ideology.

SPLC is full of morons with nothing better to do, I guess.

[–]Shitgenstein 71ポイント72ポイント  (21子コメント)

I'm curious for any alt-right users here, I have a question. I will not try to argue against your answer. I will respect your right to have the views which you have.

How do things like "Human Bio-Diversity" and "race realism" differ from concepts like polygenism and scientific racism which are widely regarded as obsolete since the 19th century?

[–]thekangzwewuz 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll answer your question with a question.

Do you think there are NO differences between the races? All races are exactly the same?

The same psychology? The same physical attributes? The same intelligence? etc.

Clearly there are some trends within the races that we can all observe, right?

"Race Realism" is just acknowledging that those trends exist, and studying them. What problem do you see in that?

[–]CertifiedRabbi 15ポイント16ポイント  (10子コメント)

It's pretty obvious that human biodiversity and race realism are just politically correct euphemisms for scientific racism. The only reason that we use those terms is to put people at ease because modern sensibilities have been so skewed towards automatically and violently rejecting White bigotry. But the idea that scientific racism has been thoroughly debunked is a talking point that anti-racist liberals like to spout in order to discredit our ideas. And just because certain aspects of 19th century and early 20th century scientific racism were nonsense, that doesn't mean that everything that they espoused was nonsense or that more recent scientific racism is just a rehash of discredited ideas.

Reality also isn't a popularity contest. I could be the only person in the entire world that believes that not all racial groups are equally intelligent and civilized, but that wouldn't mean that I'm wrong. Yes, we know that the scientific and academic community completely despises us, but that isn't because our ideas are BS. Our views simply aren't politically correct.

Eugenics is a perfect example of a completely valid scientific idea falling out of fashion simply because it offends modern liberal sensibilities. Not only is it possible to improve the human gene pool through genetic screening, embryo selection, cloning, genetic engineering, selective breeding, polygamy, artificial insemination, et cetera, but it's absolutely vital to the long-term health of our species and our environment.

It's widely known in environmentalist circles that human overpopulation is the root cause of most environmental issues. Everything from climate change to overfishing is mostly caused by too many people living on this planet. So, if the human population needs to be dramatically reduced in order to fix this problem (which most scientists and environmentalists are hesitant to publicly acknowledge because they don't want to be accused of being evil Nazis), then eugenics is obviously the most logical solution to this problem, because if you have to dramatically reduce the human population then obviously it just makes sense to select for the best and the brightest.

Who wouldn't want to live in an environmentally sustainable society that had a guaranteed income, an army of AI robots (but not so smart that they pose a threat to us) to take care of the dirty work, and a beautiful and healthy citizenry comprised of Mensa members? We'll soon have the scientific know-how to make that neo-Nazi utopia a reality, but what we lack is the political will to implement it (thanks to the progressive Left). The Alt-Right exists to solve this problem.

Dysgenics is also a massive problem that's being completely ignored because the solutions lead you down a path towards the Fourth Reich.

Eugenics has to be one of the most important and powerful ideas in all of human history, but it's being suppressed simply because it reeks of Nazism. So, while the progressive Left just loves to claim that the conservative religious Right is getting in the way of scientific and human progress, when it comes to eugenics it's the liberal Left that's preventing our species from making the next major leap forward.

You can tell that the scientific community is completely terrified of new developments in genetic research bolstering our racist weltanschauung. Once we get a better idea of which genes are responsible for human behavior, we'll finally be able to solidly prove that some racial groups are inherently superior to other racial groups. You can also tell that the scientific community is extremely nervous about discovering that the genes that are responsible for intelligence won't be evenly distributed throughout the various "population groups" (the politically correct term for race). Acknowledging that racial and class differences have a genetic basis will completely undermine the central pillar of modern progressive ideology.

Scientists like James Watson and Hans Eysenck weren't quacks. They were treated like heretics for daring to dissent from modern progressive orthodoxy.

If you want to learn more about modern scientific racism, then you should check out people like Stephen Hsu [1][2][3]. He's allowed to get away with espousing racist, Nazi-ish ideas because he isn't White, and because he's very careful to moderate his views by paying lip service to progressive egalitarian ideology.

[–]AFlyingMexican5 45ポイント46ポイント  (6子コメント)

Okay but let's say that you're right and that scientists have stopped studying "race realism" and what not. How can you guys probe you're correct, are any of you folks scientists?

[–]bitchy_witcher 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

The data still exists. Most scientists refuse to draw conclusions from it, but you don't need an advanced degree to grasp the implications of a government-funded double-blind study that reveals black people are twice as likely to speed.

And there are still some scientists whose loyalty to scientific truth is stronger than their need for funding. A famous example is James Watson, Nobel prize winner and co-discoverer of the DNA double helix structure, who said:

He says that he is “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”, and I know that this “hot potato” is going to be difficult to address. His hope is that everyone is equal, but he counters that “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”. He says that you should not discriminate on the basis of colour, because “there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level”. He writes that “there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so”.

[–]cojago 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Like /u/bitchy-witcher said, it's not that these subjects have stopped being researched, it's that a particular conclusion or set of conclusions is considered to be invalid on the basis of politics.

So if I have data that showed that allele 2R is associated with increased crime and risk taking behavior, that is acceptable. If I have data that allele 2R is most common in people of African descent, that is acceptable. If I have data that shows that blacks are more likely to commit crime and take risks, that, too, is acceptable. The problem comes when I combine the three to reach the conclusion "Blacks are more genetically predisposed to increased crime and risk-taking behavior", this is unacceptable, despite following logically from accepted data and logic.

[–]SearcingForTruth 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The 2 r allele is activated only when there was abuse or neglect as a child. Read the end of Beaver et al 2013.

[–]cojago 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you are thinking of the 3R variant of MAOA, not the 2R. I have not seen any sources claiming 2R is activated by abuse or neglect as a child. For the sake of it, I just re-read what I believe to be the correct "Beaver et al."

Exploring the association between the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene promoter polymorphism and psychopathic personality traits, arrests, incarceration, and lifetime antisocial behavior

and I found no line suggesting a link to or the necessary prescursing of childhood abuse effect the gene's correlation to risky and criminal behavior. If you'd like to direct me to another study I'd be interested, but I'm fairly sure you are confusing the 2R allele with the 3R allele, which has been shown to have the properties you described.

[–]Pseudoboss11 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Although it does not. People with Allele 2R are more likely to commit crime and take risks, not the group that contains allele 2R. There may be other confounds. Maybe there's another gene that decreases risk-taking within that population.

The increased risk-taking within the population could be due to the presence of allele 2R or it could be due to environmental factors. It is almost certainly due to the presence of allele 2R, other genetic factors, experimental and environmental confounds. the conclusion that you draw does not account for these.

I do feel that eugenic programs are inevitable. However, I think that it would need to be done via gene sequencing or something, not through the color of an individual's skin.

[–]bitchy_witcher 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's better to say that "scientific racism" is a dysphemism for human biodiversity and race realism.

[–]RedPillDessert 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Even with monogenism, a lot can happen in 100,000 years in terms of evolution, especially if you subscribe to the Punctuated Equilibrium theory in evolution.

As for the term "race realism", I think that's partially a rebranding of "scientific racism" and I can speculate (but can't be 100% sure) that the latter was discredited due to left-wing/liberal bias, and never really went away.

[–]George_Rockwell 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

widely regarded as obsolete since the 19th century?

This has only happened because the culture has demanded it.

See my additional sources here

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

No. It happened because science moves on from disproven anti-scientific nonsense used by past racists to push right-wing agendas.

[–]FuriousTarts 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're arguing with a former /r/coontown mod btw.

Even if you take all of their bulshit conclusions from their bulshit "science" there is still no excuse for that kind of hate.

[–]thekangzwewuz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, what do you think about the conclusively observed trends in IQ test scores between races?

Is that "anti-scientific nonsense" as well? Even though it has been conclusively proven using scientific means?

Just because you don't like the result?

[–]George_Rockwell 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I posted all of the data for you to see. It is verboten to draw "racist" conclusions from them put together.

[–]Meatssacre 138ポイント139ポイント  (2子コメント)

What the actual fuck?

[–]Dominator27 82ポイント83ポイント  (0子コメント)

The moderator is a member of the/supports /r/altright so he featured it

[–]Nidna 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

ARE YOU KIDDING MEEE?

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[–]EagleDarkX 94ポイント95ポイント  (7子コメント)

What would a website be without it's own NatSoc community AKA Nazi's?

Wait, I know that one, a better place to be.

[–]RAKtheUndead 85ポイント86ポイント  (31子コメント)

Oh, yes, because what Reddit really needs is more springboards for these fascist lunatics.

[–]CuckzBTFO 15ポイント16ポイント  (28子コメント)

Nah, we need more liberal echo-chambers full of Marxist thinkers.

[–]RAKtheUndead 48ポイント49ポイント  (5子コメント)

Guess what? There are political opinions between the far-left and far-right and the vast majority of them work better than your "find the scapegoat, blame the scapegoat" antics.

Interesting username as well. Hope you don't mind me rubbing one out to your insecurity and fear.

[–]CuckzBTFO 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Very few. My statement still stands as a valid generalization since you haven't provided any counter-arguments aside from something you thought was snark.

gr8 b8 m8, i r8 8/8

[–]RAKtheUndead 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Very few.

[...] you haven't provided any counter-arguments

How about I start with Ireland, a country which has somehow managed through the wonders of proportional representation to elect neither a far-left or far-right government and seems to be much better off for it?

[–]markovich04 17ポイント18ポイント  (9子コメント)

Liberals aren't Marxists.

What we need to do is round up this altright filth and teach them some real Marxism.

[–]Monk_on_Fire 112ポイント113ポイント  (23子コメント)

Man, fuck this shit. That subreddit ought to be banned and here you are promoting it.

[–]BullishOnTheBear 21ポイント22ポイント  (19子コメント)

Yea fuck free speech.

[–]colgateblanco123 48ポイント49ポイント  (2子コメント)

yeah, fuck it.

if you promote hate I give 0 fucks about your free speech.

[–]wantanclan 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

Free speech means not having to fear governmental persecution, not everybody having to accept hate- and probably harmful bullshit. Reddit is a privately owned site. They don't have to host "gas the kikes"-type of "free speech".

[–]conflicted_anarchist 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a private site, alt reich scum

[–]Nidna 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

BAN WHAT I DON'T LIKE

[–]Monk_on_Fire 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is an incoherent ideology espousing hate. It adds nothing while suckering in the weak.

[–]gymnasticRug 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

The alt right is not alright.

[–]LangesHolz 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

But /pol/ is always right.

[–]pdrocker1 62ポイント63ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eeewwwwww

[–]Lokismoke 110ポイント111ポイント  (12子コメント)

Reddit's very own NatSoc community.

I take it you mean National Socialist community?! TF?! That's "Alt Right" in the same way the sounds of a man stuffing a pile of baby gerbils into a hollowed out watermelon is "Alt Rock."

[–]cxl61 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the Nazi description is somewhat accurate, even though not all people on that sub are at the Hitler level of racist. (These groups were the first to call themselves alt-right, while the term only more recently came to denote the more moderate pro-Trump movements that primarily oppose the political establishment)

[–]jorbleshi_kadeshi 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It doesn't need an explanation. We are fascists, [/r/The_Donald] are center right.

We are racialists and anti-semites, they are vehemently opposed to these things and insist "we're all the same dude, just smoke a joint with me bro, we can all get along, check out this black guy who voted Trump he's SOOOO BASED! I wanna let my daughter marry him! OH AND THIS GAY FEMALE MUSLIM IMMIGRANT WHO VOTED TRUMP, SO BASED!"

This shit explains itself. You don't belong here.

link

When /r/The_Donald is center right then you've gone way too far.

[–]081624 75ポイント76ポイント  (6子コメント)

No, that is alt right. Ok not all alt right people are national socialists but they are all racists, and that's the entire point. You just think alt right isn't about racism because people like Hillary Clinton told you it's about racism, and redditors have this Pavlovian response where whenever Hillary says something you assume it's false and call her out of touch.

[–]PurpleKneesocks 44ポイント45ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think it's about racism because the sidebar of the subreddit says it's in support of racial purity, and a lot of the users posting here seem to really hate Jews and racial "inbreeding".

[–]cjf_colluns 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Their list of influences are all white supremacists. They admit to being racially motivated.

They are racists.

[–]PurpleKneesocks 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's the point I was kinda trying to make

[–]wantanclan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

AltRight could be a great source of information for mods. Just ban AltRight-posters from posting anywhere else and isolate the cesspit!

[–]jereddit 73ポイント74ポイント  (7子コメント)

Is this for real? That sub is some stormfront shit. It should be fucking quarantined.

[–]yourplotneedswork 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

The admins are afraid of another Ellen Pao fiasco.

[–]LynxRufus 50ポイント51ポイント  (8子コメント)

Well. We've normalized racism by allowing this shit. Time to get louder. Reddit enables racism. Reddit is a part of the problem.

[–]LangesHolz 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

You know, every western state "enables racism", because of free speech?

[–]wantanclan 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah, it's because people are too lazy, too stupid or to afraid to speak up against it. Free speech simply means the state won't persecute someone for a thing they say. It does not mean anyone has to tolerate every bullshit that is thrown at them. Also, reddit is still a privately owned site. They don't restrict free speech if they suppress hateful content.

[–]RedPillDessert 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

We've normalized racism through mass immigration.

There FTFY. Horse before cart.

[–]picassopolo 53ポイント54ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice job promoting hate speech!

[–]real-dreamer 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Promoting a neo Nazi movement you fucking implicit supporters of racist shit. You are all a part of the fucking problem.

[–]jevon 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Utterly disgusting.

[–]oscillator- 24ポイント25ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is there a viable reddit alternative? TD has permeated reddit to strongly and its tiring. I can only read so much hate propaganda per day. I do not want to give ad revenue to a company that supports each speech (i.e. reddit)

[–]adminsarebabies 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Twitter seems to be a hugbox, Tumblr is the next step if the opposing views are still to much for you to handle. The final step would be your house and a few dozen cats.

[–]BullishOnTheBear 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do not want to give ad revenue to a company that supports each speech (i.e. reddit)

lol you need to get out more

[–]qabalistic_bass 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unsubscribing

[–]BaloneyFactory 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought /r/stormfront was already dealt with.

Then I went to the actual sub. Are you kidding me? It's literally a hate group networking site. WTF, Reddit? Just mirror 4chan already.

[–]Nidna 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

he thinks 4chan is still the wild west in the current year

It's just an anonymous reddit at this point. The "wrong" opinions are still permabanned on sight with no explanation.

[–]Gigadweeb 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

lmao fucking reddit promoting literal fascists

why do I even bother visiting

[–]Might-be-crazy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a great question.

Why do you bother coming here??

[–]NefariousBanana 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Endorsing nazis? Sounds like reddit, alright.

[–]real-dreamer 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck. That.

[–]yesididmakeanother 56ポイント57ポイント  (15子コメント)

/r/altright is a subreddit of peace.

[–]TwerkersOfTheWorld 42ポイント43ポイント  (10子コメント)

* for whites only

[–]ddplz 11ポイント12ポイント  (9子コメント)

Isn't that what the BLM movement has been about? Creating safe places of colour?

[–]aggie1391 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

Which is why my lily white ass has been welcome at BLM protests, right? Or maybe that's because I'm a (((globalist))) and we're funding them or some bullshit, right?

[–]ddplz 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

They have no issue with nu-males who will bend to their will. Don't expect to stick around if they ever get their way.

[–]wantanclan 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why are you so scared? Do you feel that inferior?

[–]ruddiger718 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nope, its about POC getting the privileges whites have enjoyed so long, if they were taken away, they would complain about losing basic rights; i.e. NOT getting killed by police, NOT being turned away from jobs because the color of their skin, NOT being seen a second rate citizen. You know, basic human shit. America is supposed to be the safe place for ALL colors, white, black, and all shades inbetween. Would you prefer water fountains and the back of busses be considered the "safe space" for POC?

[–]ddplz 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you agreeing with me? My whole point is BLM protestors on campuses rallying for "blacks only" rooms and racial segregation in the name of "safe spaces".

The water fountain thing is what they want.

[–]conflicted_anarchist 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Safe spaces are shelters from racism.

[–]magadorspartacus 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

I read that as /r/alright which I would imagine would be pretty chill.

[–]aggie1391 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except for praising the dude who committed genocide against Jews like me. Yeah totally nothing wrong there!

[–]JoJoWiCo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Safe spaces are generally very peaceful.

[–]roflocalypselol 29ポイント30ポイント  (8子コメント)

Okay since apparently this is happening... the Alt Right as defined by its creators is a racial awareness movement. The alt-right as coopted by Breitbart, The_donald, Milo, etc. is not. They just wanted a way to say non-establishment conservatives and well...picked a confusing label. The Alt Right considers those people 'alt light' or still 'normies'.

[–]cxl61 51ポイント52ポイント  (2子コメント)

The sub featured here is more of that actual white nationalist movement, compared to that less extreme Trump movement that's also used the label.

[–]roflocalypselol 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Trump movement, etc. simply coopted the name without researching it much, I think. T_D is very inclusive. The real Alt Right includes white identitarians and other race realists, but only some are actual NatSoc.

[–]cxl61 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely. T_D will accept pretty anyone who supports Trump (they love highlighting token minority supporters in that sub), while the true and less visible alt-right usually do believe that racially homogeneous societies are most successful (and consider minorities to be "them" compared to "us" being white people).

[–]CuckNorris1 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Alt light is still fairly race realist, they just dog whistle more and don't write about it as clearly.

[–]roflocalypselol 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some are, many aren't. I'd say most subscribe to cultural explanations that correlate with race, rather than genetic determination.

[–]raging_dope_fiend 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure even the_donald hates these people (if their putting down stakes on r/thenewright is any indicator).

[–]effa94 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love the anime nazi, that's a cute touch that totally makes this okay

[–]greenkingwashere 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Altright = racists

[–]Ad_Homonym_ 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not sure if this was your intention, but the SPLC just got a $100 donation. Fuck the alt-right.

[–]GoneBefore1Jan2017 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like how they give a nsfw/content warning about a porn subreddit, but not a literal nazi subreddit .

I would abandon this fucking site if there was an alternative.

[–]waystogetaround 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wow..., Oh my, the poor naive souls over at SRD and other metasureddits are going to have hard time to even.

These are the people who are convinced that the folks at /r/The_Donald are literally(for real) Hitler 2.0, wonder what that makes us.

[–]Myne1001 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I commented this on an article about Breitbart around the time Bannon joined the Trump campaign

"You think Breitbart is bad? Just you wait until you go further down the rabbit hole. Then you'll be thinking Breitbart is moderate"

[–]George_Rockwell 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

christ I can't wait. If we thought the salt from this election was yuuge...

[–]boomshrub 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj6QIy4ph4I

Promoting this ideology is disgraceful and you should be ashamed.

[–]Charli3R 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

They have Hitler in their header. HITLER. Thanks.

[–]quaerere_veritatem 5ポイント6ポイント  (33子コメント)

There is exists no intellectual curiosity here. Im certain most of you did not read the intro, much less checked out any of the alt right websites. I say this because your complaints are far off the mark

[–]RAKtheUndead 29ポイント30ポイント  (20子コメント)

Well, given that the last time that fascists controlled the world's most powerful countries, my relatives were being bombed and shot at by the soldiers of those fascist countries, I don't think there's anything to be curious about.

[–]Njallstormborn 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

I don't need to read your sources. I've heard fascist and racist rhetoric before and just because you've wrapped it up a bit nicer than the other sources won't change the message

[–]Letty_Whiterock 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, no. You guys are definitely choosing subs that you know will piss people off. Don't pretend that's not the case, we're not that stupid. And I'd hope you aren't so stupid to choose it because you think it actually deserves it.

What's next, publichealthwatch? One of the incels subreddits?

[–]grungebot5000 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nietzsche

y'all dumbasses realize Nietzsche was a major progenitor of multiculturalism, got the ball rolling on moving away from normative analysis of culture and explicitly advocated for race mixing right?

[–]BatMunki┴┬┴┤( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬[M] 23ポイント24ポイント  (64子コメント)

This thread will remain open but will be heavily policed by the moderation team. Please actually try and use this as a place for civil discussion and not just screaming and swearing looks at SRS and just behave in general. Report any comments that are not civil (in the sense of if they attack another user or are agressive) DO NOT REPORT JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT AGREE WITH SOMEONE'S OPINION. enjoy

EDIT: To all the people saying "er mah gudd how could you endorse a neo nazi"... read the sidebar:

  • " Once a day we shine a spotlight on the small, the big, the new and the old. Our mission is to spotlight unique reddit communities, every damn day."

Nowhere there does it say we endorse ANY of the communities we feature, we just put them under the spotlight for YOU GUYS to make YOUR OWN opinions.

[–]XENOVICE 80ポイント81ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nowhere there does it say we endorse ANY of the communities we feature

Echoing hate speech uncritically spreads it to fresh eyes and impressionable minds. Your sidebar doesn't change that and the responsibility you have is a natural consequence of the user base you have access to.

Parroting, uncritically, is endorsement.

[–]UnhWut 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

He also makes it sound like all their conclusions are 100% logical. They aren't racists they're just pragmatists who miss r/coontown.

[–]TrumpHasASmallPenis 47ポイント48ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nowhere there does it say we endorse ANY of the communities we feature, we just put them under the spotlight for YOU GUYS to make YOUR OWN opinions.

That doesn't take responsibility away from giving a large microphone to a hate group that loves to recruit.

[–]akjax 31ポイント32ポイント  (10子コメント)

Nowhere there does it say we endorse ANY of the communities we feature,

By featuring them, you give them attention. You can say they're not being "endorsed" but you're giving them free publicity and by not mentioning anywhere in the OP that this is a sub for racists, they're essentially being endorsed. It's like featuring and having an interview with the Nazi Party. You can say it's not an endorsement but by promoting them (and there's NO way you can argue this is not a promotion) and not condemning them at the same time, this sub is doing everything that endorsing them entails, except for outright saying so. So you can say you're not endorsement a racist sub if it makes you feel good, but that's complete bullshit. The very words "Sub of the day" suggest endorsement. People don't pick shitty things for their "of the day" compilations.

/r/picsofdeadkids is also a "unique" Reddit community. Will they be featured next?

Sorry, but this is disgusting. I'm done with subreddit of the day.

Seriously though, I'd love an explanation of the pic of the anime Nazi at the end. Really. What. The. Fuck?

[–]Ankle_Drag 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

Are you having a "If I ignore it, maybe it will go away" moment?

Do you think if people who are not predisposed to a certain ideology are gonna be converted into that ideology just because someone wrote an article about it? Do you even understand how condescending and borderline insulting that sounds?

Silencing information is absolutely NOT a way to deal with negative events in an open society. This bullshit "dont give X a platform" is about as effective as "don't build clock towers so crazy snipers wouldn't have platforms to shoot from".

Would you say that a journalist who wrote about a crime being commited by some new innovative way is endorsing new crime waves?

Treating people like they can't themselves figure out what's racist and what's not along with juvenial attempts to control information (or, more likely, being deluded that you are doing that) is a form of escaping from reality. The certain events of this year should teach everybody at least that.

[–]akjax 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

Would you say that a journalist who wrote about a crime being commited by some new innovative way is endorsing new crime waves?

Do you think a journalist would write like this? Do you think you'd see an article titled "Person of the day" and it's about a serial rapist? Do you think they'd end the article with a cute little anime rapist picture?

There's a time, and there's a place. No, I don't think we should ignore these communities, but this is not the way to draw attention to them. Nowhere anywhere in this post do the mods suggest that they do not approve of the views expressed, in fact they literally encourage users to "lurk more", to spend more time in there. They completely try to play it off as a cool and open place for people with any opinion that is just misunderstood, not the haven for racists and fascists that it is.

After doing that, the mods hide behind false words. "We're not endorsing this sub" when they're doing everything to endorse it except outright saying that they are.

Yes, it's up to us to decide what is racist. I think promoting racism and fascism without reservation is racist. Thus, I take offense to this post on that basis.

The first line on the sidebar for this sub:

...is a celebration of the interesting communities on reddit.com.

Do you think we should celebrate our racist community?

[–]i_says_2_mabel 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

FAQ

How do you choose which subreddits to feature?

Our modteam scours the reddit universe to find communities that are making reddit a better place.

seems pretty endorse-y to me.

why do you endorse hate speech?

[–]varukasalt 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your choosing to promote this sub is tactic endorsement. Don't give me this impartial bullshit.

[–]TheRaggedQueen 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty sure hosting them as a subreddit of the day is an endorsement in all but name, genius.

[–]smocca 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Spotlighting hate speech for fun is not okay. Please don't do this again.

[–]EagleDarkX 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nowhere there does it say we endorse ANY of the communities we feature, we just put them under the spotlight for YOU GUYS to make YOUR OWN opinions.

Isn't that how Trump became president?

[–]real-dreamer 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's fucking simple. Don't give a pedestal to hateful communities

[–]Ron-Paultergeist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So it's totally civil to say that I'm a thieving sub-human because I'm a Jew? This is a subreddit that has Hitler in its banner for fuck's sake.

[–]citizen_beyond 28ポイント29ポイント  (59子コメント)

Liberal progressivism has become the dominant religion of modernity.

It is a non-theistic sect of Christianity along the Calvinist line.

And a pernicious and well adapted meme it is, for it advertises itself as rational and non-theistic. It's most devout followers will not even consider alternative viewpoints because they label them as "pseudo-science". They refuse to even look at them.

And yet they have many non-scientific views like their belief in neurological uniformity across all diverse sub-populations of homo sapiens. They view neurological uniformity as the null hypothesis, despite the fact that it is not seen in any other species. They assume it to be true until proven otherwise, and yet they refuse to consider evidence disproving it. They are analogous to creationists who refuse to look at fossil evidence.

They have replaced original sin with White privilege/guilt, and their God is the State. All problems in the world are to be ultimately solved by the State. Their religious vision is a peaceful multicultural democratic utopia. Of course, such a society has never existed before. But this is of little consequence for a devout liberal progressive. The vision is more important than reality itself.

[–]SpectreOfLenin 114ポイント115ポイント  (51子コメント)

Liberal progressivism has become the dominant religion of modernity

/r/im14andthisisdeep

It is a non-theistic sect of Christianity along the Calvinist line.

A non-theistic set of a theist ideology...

Did you just put together a bunch of words that would make you sound smart?

And a pernicious and well adapted meme it is, for it advertises itself as rational and non-theistic. It's most devout followers will not even consider alternative viewpoints because they label them as "pseudo-science". They refuse to even look at them.

Ah, yes.

As opposed to White Nationalists who are renown for their openness and willingness to question established norms.

And yet they have many non-scientific views like their belief in neurological uniformity across all diverse sub-populations of homo sapiens.

Any different between races is negligible to the point that social conditions can make up for them.

I know the whole IQ thing is a big sticking point for Nazis, but the difference in IQ between white people and non-white people is not large enough to completely exclude any chance of being as good or better than the average white person.

You're acting like the mental function between a black person and a white person is as wide as it is between a human and a dog.

The smartest, functioning dog is not smarter than the dumbest functioning human.

Whereas the smartest functioning black person is absolutely smarter than the dumbest functioning white person.

That's all you need to know with regards to the IQ gap is that it can be socially engineered.

They have replaced original sin with White privilege/guilt, and their God is the State

The fuck?

First of all, not every person on the left is in agreement as to what white privilege means.

And secondly not every person on the left wants a state.

Their religious vision is a peaceful multicultural democratic utopia. Of course, such a society has never existed before.

Neither has a successful ethnocentric state, doesn't stop you from trying.

But this is of little consequence for a devout liberal progressive. The vision is more important than reality itself.

How far down do you have to bend to suck your dick that much?

[–]SocialNationalism 12ポイント13ポイント  (12子コメント)

r/Iam14andthisisdeep

r/notanargument

A non-theistic set of a theist ideology...

Christianity isn't necessarily theistic, it could be about Jesus' teachings and interpretations of them without believing in his divinity; obviously this is just semantic snark over a thing called a metaphor.

As opposed to White Nationalists who are renown for their openness and willingness to question established norms.

r/notanargument and you're responding to a comment about a meme with stereotypes about a group of people. Also, *renowned.

Any different between races is negligible to the point that social conditions can make up for them.

Assertion without evidence.

First of all, not every person on the left is in agreement as to what white privilege means. And secondly not every person on the left wants a state.

NAxALT, bro.

Neither has a successful ethnocentric state, doesn't stop you from trying.

An example of a successful ethnocentric state isn't hard to find e.g. the USA before 1960.

How far down do you have to bend to suck your dick that much?

The liberal mind in a nutshell.

[–]SpectreOfLenin 48ポイント49ポイント  (11子コメント)

Assertion without evidence

If there are black people who are smarter than white people and white people who are dumber than black people, than it is self-evident that conditions can be changed to account for the difference in IQ.

NAxALT, bro

I have a tip for white nationalists who want to make arguments.

Don't throw out rhetoric and logical fallacies and expect to receive serious responses.

An example of a successful ethnocentric state isn't hard to find e.g. the USA before 1960.

Oh you mean when children were getting thrown into factories?

Or do you mean during the depression when people were starving in the streets?

Or maybe you mean during the 1800s when miners were dying in their 30s from black lung.

SUCH SUCCESS.

MUCH PARADISE.

[–]SocialNationalism 9ポイント10ポイント  (10子コメント)

If there are black people who are smarter than white people and white people who are dumber than black people, than it is self-evident that conditions can be changed to account for the difference in IQ.

No... Unless you are including eugenics.

Don't throw out rhetoric and logical fallacies and expect to receive serious responses.

Ironic. Also, not an argument.

Oh you mean when children were getting thrown into factories? Or do you mean during the depression when people were starving in the streets? Or maybe you mean during the 1800s when miners were dying in their 30s from black lung. SUCH SUCCESS. MUCH PARADISE.

Not an argument.

[–]SpectreOfLenin 38ポイント39ポイント  (7子コメント)

No...

Well, fuck me. Ironclad logic there.

Ironic. Also, not an argument.

It wasn't meant to be an argument, you dullard.

It was meant to be a reference to the fact your arguments are shit.

Not an argument.

There's nothing to argue.

It was just facts.

Deal with it.

[–]SocialNationalism 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well, fuck me. Ironclad logic there.

Finally you get something right.

It was meant to be a reference to the fact your arguments are shit.

Not an argument.

It was just facts.

Asking dumb questions then calling them facts... that's not an argument.

[–]George_Rockwell 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm enjoying watching a /u/SocialNationalism go at it with a /u/SpectreOfLenin

Truly 2016 is the best timeline

[–]SocialNationalism 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

ikr seeing this shit is like bait to me

[–]George_Rockwell 10ポイント11ポイント  (26子コメント)

Any different between races is negligible to the point that social conditions can make up for them.

You're gonna want to hold onto your tendies for this one:

Humans can be genetically categorized into five racial groups, corresponding to traditional races. http://pritchardlab.stanford.edu/publications/pdfs/RosenbergEtAl02.pdf

Genetic analysis "supports the traditional racial groups classification." http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

"Human genetic variation is geographically structured" and corresponds with race. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15508000

Race can be determined via genetics with certainty for >99.8% of individuals. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15625622

Oral bacteria can be used to determine race. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-oral-bacteria-fingerprint-mouth.html

Race can be determined via brain scans. http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)00671-5

96-97% of whites have no African ancestry. http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2013/02/how_mixed_are_african_americans.3.html

97% of Whites have no black ancestry whatsoever. http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-white-black-a-murky-distinction-grows-still-murkier/

There was "minimal gene flow" between archaic Europeans and Asians. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/science/20adapt.html

Common-sense racial categories have biological meaning. http://www.ln.edu.hk/philoso/staff/sesardic/Race2.pdf

Human intelligence is highly heritable. http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html

Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305

Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks. http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public. http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf

Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households. http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

The average African IQ is estimated at 79. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741

The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100. http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf

The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing. http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636

Intelligence has a 40-50% genetic basis. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/news/la-heb-genetic-study-intelligence-20110809

IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society. http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

IQ is 75% heritable among Whites. http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

More diverse neighborhoods have lower social cohesion. http://www.citylab.com/housing/2013/11/paradox-diverse-communities/7614/

Diversity increases psychotic experiences. http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/201/4/282.abstract?etoc

Diversity increases social adversity. http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/201/4/282.abstract?etoc

A 10% increase in diversity doubles the chance of psychotic episodes. http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/201/4/282.abstract?etoc

Diversity reduces voter registration, political efficacy, charity, and number of friendships. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x/abstract;jsessionid=279C92A7EB0946BBA63D62937FC832A9.f04t03

Ethnic diversity reduces happiness and quality of life. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x/abstract;jsessionid=279C92A7EB0946BBA63D62937FC832A9.f04t03

Diversity reduces trust, civic participation, and civic health. http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/?page=full

Ethnocentrism is rational, biological, and genetic in origin. http://www.pnas.org/content/108/4/1262.abstract

Ethnic diversity harms health for hispanics and blacks. http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2012.300787

Babies demostrate ethnocentrism before exposure to non-whites. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-7687.2012.01138.x/full

Ethnocentrism is universal and likely evolved in origin. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~axe/research/AxHamm_Ethno.pdf

Diversity primarily hurts the dominant ethnic group. http://www.theindependentaustralian.com.au/node/57

Ethnic diversity reduces concern for the environment. http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10640-012-9619-6

Ethnic diversity within 80 meters of a person reduces social trust. http://curis.ku.dk/ws/files/130251172/Dinesen_S_nderskov_Ethnic_Diversity_and_Social_Trust_Forthcoming_ASR.pdf

Ethnic diversity directly reduces strong communities. https://www.msu.edu/~zpneal/publications/neal-diversitysoc.pdf

Ethnically homogenous neighborhoods are beneficial for health. https://www.mailman.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/living-ethnically-homogenous-area-boosts-health-minority-seniors

Diversity in American cities correlates with segregation. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-most-diverse-cities-are-often-the-most-segregated/

Races are extended families. Ethnocentrism is genetically rational. http://www.amazon.com/The-Ethnic-Phenomenon-Pierre-Berghe/dp/0275927091

It is evolutionary rational to be friends with someone genetically similar to you. http://www.livescience.com/46791-friends-share-genes.html

Racism and nationalism are rational and evolutionary advantageous strategies. http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

Homogeneous polities have less crime, less civil war, and more altruism. http://www.theindependentaustralian.com.au/node/57

States with little diversity have more democracy, less corruption, and less inequality. http://www.theindependentaustralian.com.au/node/57

There is extensive evidence people prefer others who are genetically similar. http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/n&n 2005-1.pdf

[–]SpectreOfLenin 45ポイント46ポイント  (19子コメント)

None of that dispels what the core of my arguments are; and frankly there is quite a lot of assumption going on here.

Assuming that I'm in favor of mass, unregulated migration. I'm not.

Assuming that I said there is no biological difference between races. I didn't. I said that if there is a difference it is negligible with that persons conditions.

And you're assuming I think people are naturally intercultural. I didn't.

I openly acknowledge that people tend toward their own culture. What I have said is that it is more beneficial to us if we base our society off cooperation between peoples rather than forceful separation of cultures

If you don't want mass migration, get rid of the conditions that cause it. Like Capitalists in Africa owning another nations people's production and keeping wages below starvation. Like global warming which is causing drought and flooding. Like intervention which is radicalizing Muslims and causing masses of refugees to flee their countries.

Those have always been the core of my arguments. What you typed is just noise.

[–]George_Rockwell 14ポイント15ポイント  (12子コメント)

A society of 70 IQ people simply will not achieve what one made up of 100 IQ people will. Ever.

Like Capitalists in Africa owning another nations people's production and keeping wages below starvation. Like global warming which is causing drought and flooding. Like intervention which is radicalizing Muslims and causing masses of refugees to flee their countries.

I think I can agree with almost all of this, actually.

[–]Njallstormborn 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

The average person is not the same as every person. Also, as often as I see you guys posting that IQ statistic you never seem to say anything on the average white IQ nor on the age of that study.

I might also point out that IQ tests are pretty goddamn arbitrary means of measuring intelligence.

[–]cojago 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

I said that if there is a difference it is negligible with that persons conditions.

This is demonstrably wrong based on sources posted by /u/George_Rockwell. A quick look through the sources shows data showing that blacks from the wealthiest set of families, even raised among wealthy white families, perform more poorly, academically, than the white children of the poorest set of white families. The data implies that race is a better indicator of academic performance than income, opportunity, or culture, the exact opposite of your claim.

Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks. http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households. http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

[–]CuckzBTFO 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

He didn't go through the evidence. He's internally convinced by the liberal scientific climate that is firmly morally(but not scientifically) against using genetics as explanatory factors for human behavior.

There is contention among the research, but there is no counter-points that directly refute it.

[–]ErrolFuckingFlynn 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

(x-post from Againsthatesubreddits, credit goes to TheZizekiest)

"Presenting information like this is just bad science. You would never find an academic article which just point you to articles generally. More context needs to be given, and a lot of the articles don't quite say what OP is claiming.

As with most race realist pseudo-science it is a total gish gallop; the expectation is that people won't actually check the links or will only check a few of them. Moreover, the sheer volume makes it difficult to refute all of the points, and even if you do by the time you are able to post your response enough people have read it and accepted it that the response is basically pointless.

In its defense, this isn't the worst example of this type of gish gallop. It is relatively short compared to 'resources' such as the HBDR (good i hate having that in my search history). The articles are also roughly organised according to topic, which makes contextualizing them as a literature review quite easy.

Humans can be genetically categorized into five racial groups, corresponding to traditional races.
http://pritchardlab.stanford.edu/publications/pdfs/RosenbergEtAl02.pdf

The article itself does not make the claim for the existence of racial categories as strongly as one might think. It notes that the vast majority of genetic variation exists within groups. It also relies on "general agreement of genetic and predefined populations" to make its conclusions. In other words; the racial categories are defined and agreed upon, then used to inform the genetic distinctions. Races literally need to be socially constructed in order for this study to work.

Why is this a problem? Jonathan Kaplan argued that populations corresponding to Western racial taxonomies could be identified through allele frequencies, however, these differences are of no more significance than the differences between any two populations (Kaplan 2011). You could organise people by 'the colour house they live in' and you would get the same 3-5% genetic variation found between races.' This also reflects the findings of Weiss and Fullerton, who noted that if you split humans into three groups; Maori, Icelanders and Mayans then all other populations will be genetic admixtures of Maori, Icelanders and Mayans (Weiss & Fullerton 2005).

Moreover, race realists know that this is the case, they just fail to acknowledge that it is a problem for their theories. John Baker notes, in his book Race, that no “two authorities” will likely be in agreement about taxonomic categories of humans, however, he does believe that the general truth that humans can be divided into taxa is still meaningful (Baker, 1974, 5). Steve Sailer also notes "racial groups can be lumped into vast continental-scale agglomerations or split as finely as you like.” Basically, it should be noted that will genetic variation does exist along racial lines, this variation is no different to the variation which exists between two groups.

Genetic analysis “supports the traditional racial groups classification.”
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

This article is by Rushton and Jenson, who work with an obvious bias. Almost all of their work is on race realism and almost all of it is generally rejected in the literature.

On this article in particular:

"J. P. Rushton and A. R. Jensen (see record 2005-03637-001) ignore or misinterpret most of the evidence of greatest relevance to the question of heritability of the Black-White IQ gap. A dispassionate reading of the evidence on the association of IQ with degree of European ancestry for members of Black populations, convergence of Black and White IQ in recent years, alterability of Black IQ by intervention programs, and adoption studies lend no support to a hereditarian interpretation of the Black-White IQ gap" - Nisbett, 2005.

"J. P. Rushton and A. R. Jensen (see record 2005-03637-001) purport to show public-policy implications arising from their analysis of alleged genetic bases for group mean differences in IQ. This article argues that none of these implications in fact follow from any of the data they present. The risk in work such as this is that public-policy implications may come to be ideologically driven rather than data driven, and to drive the research rather than be driven by the data." - Sternberg, 2005.

“Human genetic variation is geographically structured” and corresponds with race. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15508000

From the article:

"These clusters are also correlated with some traditional concepts of race, but the correlations are imperfect because genetic variation tends to be distributed in a continuous, overlapping fashion among populations. Therefore, ancestry, or even race, may in some cases prove useful in the biomedical setting, but direct assessment of disease-related genetic variation will ultimately yield more accurate and beneficial information."

Race can be determined via genetics with certainty for >99.8% of individuals. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15625622

Racial groups were constructed before the genetic studies, similar problem to article one. Moreover, only examined people in Taiwan and United States and racial categories used (white, African American, East Asian, and Hispanic) are hardly representative of global population. For example, were First Nations Americans considered East Asian, or did they just fail to include any First Nations Americans in the study?

Oral bacteria can be used to determine race.
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-oral-bacteria-fingerprint-mouth.html

The article itself says nothing about race, only uses the word ethnicity. It also shows that oral bacteria are effectively as unique as fingerprints and can be used to tell people apart on an individual basis. This suggests that, once again, racial categories need to be socially constructed before examination of the genetic data is done, making them ad-hoc.

That's all I can be bothered doing, I have essays to write. It's just the same shit you always see in race realist gish gallops, nothing surprising and nothing interesting. The best part is that the Rushton/Jensen article is posted three times within that one gish gallop, showing how desperate they are for literature which supports their views."

EDIT: Downvote away, lads.

[–]quaerere_veritatem 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

And your assumption about environmental factors is legitimate for what reason? What vast amount of research and credentials do you have to say all those sources are wrong and you are right? You are in denial, but fear not, that is only the first stage on your redpilling journey. Buckle up and enjoy

[–]stairway-to-kevin 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

I seriously don't have time to fully address this, but none of your claims are true (at least regarding the biological reality of race and the genetics of IQ) and any third party seeing this should know that.

EDIT: my full response below, up here for all to see:

IQ heritability is horrendously overestimated due to the typical models used in twin studies. A massive reduction was seen after including just one factor; common maternal environment. More importantly the heritability of IQ seems to be extremely mediated by environmental factors like socio-economic status or home environment (1,2,3,4,5) Not only that but the ability to find genes or loci associated to IQ through GWAS has turned up nearly zilch, most likely because the genetics of IQ is highly polygenic which is bad news for race-realist arguments of IQ because the genetic difference between 'races' is so miniscule and the likelihood of all those small-effect being in tight linkage and segregating together is so small that there's virtually no chance that IQ has strong genetic segregation between racial populations. Regardless though, the actual heritability of IQ doesn't matter because heritability does not mean genetically determined

The analysis of STRUCTURE results from Pritchard et al. and other studies is also pretty flawed. First off, programs like STRUCTURE will spit out a given number of clusters regardless of how significant they really are. So if you go out looking to separate humans into 5 groups vaguely resembling race, you're probably going to find it. Furthermore the population structure derived doesn't necessarily reflect the traditional concept of race. It reflected geographic ancestry, which is a distinct concept that can sometimes be muddled by genetic heterogeneity. (For more see 1,2,3,4,5).

As for 'Low black admixture in whites' you're greatest explanation for that is that admixture tests only look at alleles that differ between populations and ignore ones that are similar (for the most part). Because of shared ancestry and the extreme genetic similarity (muh Lewontin's fallacy /s) you're missing the forest from the trees. white and black people share essentially all of their genome because we all originated from the same African population, the small geographic differences that occur since then are of little impact or importance.

These are the areas I feel the most comfortable speaking as a geneticist/genomicist/evolutionary biologist. Some of those sources are valid, some are not (e.g. never trust anything from Rushton, Jensen, etc). Nearly all of them have been misinterpreted to pitch a false narrative.

[–]adminsarebabies 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The tendies have hit the floor, lol.

[–]anechoicmedia 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

As opposed to White Nationalists who are renown for their openness and willingness to question established norms.

We had to cross many ideological boundaries to get where we are today, reading books that may have been illegal in our countries, going against the dominant media message, making changes that lost us family and friends. We grew up in the same liberal-egalitarian monoculture as everyone else, and we left it.

Dissidence is no guarantee of truth, but if anyone here is to lay claim to having demonstrated an openness to new ways of thinking, it's those on the Alt-Right.

Any different between races is negligible to the point that social conditions can make up for them.

Often asserted, never proved. For what it's worth, most intelligence researchers think there is a genetic contribution to black-white intelligence gaps in the United States, probably a large contribution, and that's not something that culture and economy can paper over.

the smartest functioning black person is absolutely smarter than the dumbest functioning white person.

That's all you need to know with regards to the IQ gap is that it can be socially engineered.

"The tallest woman is taller than the shortest man, therefore the male-female height gap has no genetic component."

Neither has a successful ethnocentric state, doesn't stop you from trying.

The United States was a de jure white supermajority state prior to the 1965 Hart-Celler Act.

[–]thorneedsahaircut 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn, this is an actual physical form of autism

[–]treebog 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's trying to communicate

[–]Polite_Rude_Boy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry Woody, it would appear this machine jerks fascists off!

[–]Spudtron98 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

LITERALLY A BUNCH OF FUCKIN NAZIS

[–]TarvarisJacksonOoooh 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you're going to give people with views like these the spotlight, you should have featured /r/nazi or /r/nationalsocialism.

You call these alt-right cowards reddit's NatSoc community when there's already two that actually have that name and 500+ subs.

As far as I'm concerned, all three communities can eat dirt. But /r/nazi and /r/nationalsocialism get the good planters pot variety for admitting who they are.

[–]GreatApeNiggy 19ポイント20ポイント  (50子コメント)

I wouldn't exactly call us a NatSoc community. Are there NatSoc's who consider themselves Alt Right? Sure. But there are many other groups, as well.

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 23ポイント24ポイント  (34子コメント)

I was basing that title on the fact that Hitler and Mussolini are featured on the topbar of /r/altright.

Don't take anything that I said in the feature as a description of the alt right in general. Everything that I wrote is intended to be a description of your sub and it's interpretation of the alt right.

[–]GreatApeNiggy 13ポイント14ポイント  (30子コメント)

Not an issue. I was just pointing out that the Alt Right is a spectrum. You've got NatSocs and even people further right than that on one end and still others on the other end who think that NatSoc ideology is counter-productive. Ultimately we try to give a nod to all factions without judgement, which is why Jared Taylor is also on the banner, a person who some consider weak on the JQ.

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 4ポイント5ポイント  (26子コメント)

That makes sense. Well, if I could do it over again I'd give it a different title but there's already way too many comments to delete this thread.

[–]waitokaybut 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

Act all civil with the alt right but tell the people pointing out what they stand for to shut up. Some mod team you've got here /r/subredditoftheday

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

What specifically is your problem with my behavior as a moderator in this thread?

If people respond to me civilly I will respond in kind. If they insult me or are aggressive towards me I will remove their comment and not reply. I have done this with users from both sides of the argument.

If you see uncivil comments from the altrighters, the srs crowd, or anybody please do not hesitate to report them to ensure they will be removed swiftly!

[–]waitokaybut 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

You promoted a proud, explicitly neo-nazi community. If you don't see how that's reason enough to think you're a bad moderator, I'm really not sure what to tell you.

Look at their top post right. Fucking. Now. Oh, look, it's a "jews are bad" post. Second post pretty clearly saying that Rogue One's "multicultural rebellion led by a woman" is BAD.

Congrats, you gave these fascists that openly look up to, respect, aspire to be like, Adolf Hitler, a platform and presented them and their ideology like it isn't a massive hate group.

Sorry if you can't handle a spot of criticism about this without digging your head deep into the sand and insisting that this is all fine and totally not completely fucked up.

If they came into this thread and started spouting the same shit festering on their frontpage this exact second, would you stand for it? Oh nevermind, looks like you already have.

Any credibility this sub used to have burned up with this post. So again, I congratulate you on the fine job you're doing.

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

I do not see how this reply is related to your original comment

Act all civil with the alt right but tell the people pointing out what they stand for to shut up. Some mod team you've got here /r/subredditoftheday

It looks to me as if you were trying to claim I was biased in my moderation. In your reply you made no mention of my supposed bias. Now you have resorted to merely saying I am wrong by not censoring those you disagree with.

[–]waitokaybut 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

You're telling people to shut up for pointing out the fact that you've taken it upon yourself to promote a neo-nazi ideology.

And here in this thread you're getting all cozy and accomadating for the actual neo-nazis.

So yeah, that tells me the side you've picked. And don't tell me "there are no sides" when you're over here sucking up to a group that explicitly and proudly looks up to, and aspires to be like, Adolf Hitler, while telling people who take issue with the fact that you're promoting nazism to "stop censoring those you disagree with". Because Nazi's hate censorship, right?

[–]woodrowwilsonlonglit.statseven.com 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

You're telling people to shut up for pointing out the fact that you've taken it upon yourself to promote a neo-nazi ideology.

[citation needed]

[–]George_Rockwell 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Reminder: Sort by controversial.

This should be good fam.

[–]FuriousTarts 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

A racist using "fam"

Fuck off.

[–]George_Rockwell 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

tbh fam I'm finna lit AF

It's our word now, and my extended White family's. Sucks for you tbh fam.

[–]quearere_veritatem 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

The people involved on this sub are vicious, vile, close minded. I haven't seen more than a few real arguments against the alt right, just slander and hatred. Rediculous.

[–]Spelr 46ポイント47ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, how dare people be unfriendly to your intolerance

[–]empyreanmax 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

The people involved on this sub are vicious, vile, close minded.

Preach brother!

I haven't seen more than a few real arguments against the alt right, just slander and hatred.

Oh...by "this sub" you meant suboftheday, not altright...

[–]Njallstormborn 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow its almost like we understand that Nazis are bad things

[–]RedPillDessert 9ポイント10ポイント  (28子コメント)

Speaking as an alt-right user over there:

Consider than white people in the US have dropped from 90% to 60% of the population in the space of sixty years, and are dropping fast. Less than 50% of US births are now white. The same thing is happening all over Europe too. We are looking at demographic replacement on a vast scale as never seen before.

Personally, I think that's incredibly tragic.

[–]SpectreOfLenin 42ポイント43ポイント  (15子コメント)

The entire reason places like Japan and European countries are successful is because people have career-orientated lifestyles that leave less time to raise a family.

You're paradox is that you want white people to grow in population while maintaining the success that was brought with career-orientated societies.

You can't have it both ways.

[–]Tazer_Swift 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes white and asian countries had career driven people, all the way back to the days of their success. AND THEY GREW IN POPULATION RAPIDLY! Prior to feminism it was the father who was career driven with the mother following her biological imperative; which is what made those societies successful. You're arguing that whites and asians, who now have two full time working parents, in countries that now have embraced feminism, must now have two full time working parents(in the only countries who have accepted that the planet is over populated) which has resulted in elites telling us we now need immigrants to survive to support the ever growing older population.

"Diversity is the only way forward."

No.

[–]_monseigneurbienvenu 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

So you're saying we should disenfranchise half the population so that you can feel less bad about there being fewer white people?

I have an idea. If both parents working full time is the problem, let's get some good maternity leave policies, and let the men stay home.

[–]RedPillDessert 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

I don't mind NOT growing in population as long as we don't decline and let others overwhelm us instead. White parents can be given incentives to have children. We're almost at two on average, and that's all we need.

[–]SpectreOfLenin 32ポイント33ポイント  (7子コメント)

White people get the same welfare and benefits from having children as non-white people do.

Incentive clearly isn't the issue.

Standard of living and careers are what cause decline in population.

The same reason the Alt-Right think white people are superior is the same reason their population is declining.

It's the height of absurb.

[–]anechoicmedia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Standard of living and careers are what cause decline in population.

Ideology matters. Conservatives and the religious have more marriages and children controlling for education and income.

In the 1960s, there was a massive decline in birthrates out of nowhere, simultaneously, in several white nations, that had nothing to do with economics; It was all about ideology and the cultural revolution.

[–]quearere_veritatem 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Incentive is the issue... Affirmative action alone is the most anti-white policy ever created. It gives an automatic boost to blacks on sat scores of 250 fucking points. And it puts blacks as a massive priority over white in job hiring.. height of absurd

[–]cojago 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

The same reason the Alt-Right think white people are superior is the same reason their population is declining.

Which would be a non issue if there weren't outgroups with no incentive to cooperate and great incentive to defect, using that defection bonus to fuel their own expansion at our expense. Evolution and cooperation in like an iterated prisoners dilemma, and white people keep choosing cooperate (even though non-whites keep picking defect) on the off chance that the defectors will change their mind to get a worse deal.

[–]SpectreOfLenin 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Which would be a non issue if there weren't outgroups with no incentive to cooperate and great incentive to defect, using that defection bonus to fuel their own expansion at our expense

That's completely false.

Japan is a homogeneous society and it's population is one of the fastest declining.

Evolution and cooperation in like an iterated prisoners dilemma, and white people keep choosing cooperate (even though non-whites keep picking defect) on the off chance that the defectors will change their mind to get a worse deal.

It's about mutual exchange.

The west is the most multicultural region in the world and it owes much of it's success to the fact that it has a global labor market where people overseas can freely immigrate and contribute to western society.

This creates a huge pool of high skilled workers.

On the other hands, Capitalists want mass immigration to saturate the labor market and increase profit margins.

But of course, they don't want you to talk about that so the centers of power created the White Supremacist narrative to divert your anger toward minorities who didn't do anything.

[–]ThisIsADogHello 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why is it scary if whites are becoming a minority? Are you suddenly starting to become worried about the poor way that minorities are being treated?

[–]RedPillDessert 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

No I just don't want the country to turn into a shithole like where they came from. See modern day Paris for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju79YT_lBVI

[–]aggie1391 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Who gives a flying fuck? It doesn't fucking matter. So white people choose to have less babies, or have babies with people of color. WHO GIVES A FUCK? It makes literally no fucking difference. What are you gonna do, force people to have white babies? Then again, y'all like fascist shits that murdered millions of my people so you probably would do that.