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[–]Enavii_1 12ポイント13ポイント  (19子コメント)

[–]Anaxamandrous 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

After a little looking around on this link, I came across that he plead guilty to common assault (was accused of sexual assault on a 23 year old woman) in October 2008, the crime having occurred earlier in 2008. This was his third time, apparently, after having been charged (not sure if convicted) in a 1994 sexual assault allegation, then convicted in 2001 for sexual offenses. So what was his penalty in 2008, a three time (at least) sex offender? Time served and 3 years of probation. That's cute. And here I thought my state was soft on crime! Canada is worlds softer apparently.

[–]Enavii_1 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yep this is definitely him..

"As I'm sure some of you know, his bedroom is attached to the bathroom. He lingered in there the whole time I was in the bath"

"the few seconds I saw were oddly happy looking Japanese girls, flexing their muscles and giggling"

"so i decided to check his web history and OH MY GOD nothing but Japanese porn"

" he told me he wanted to perform a healing on me in the circle but that i would have to be naked to do so"

so freaking creepy

[–]DimDroog 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

HOLY COW. From his Facebook under a photo of a man named Richard

So you're the guy who thinks pat is a nice normal guy eh? You must be just as sick! I've informed the police about this site and the blog AND the fact that the name changes. You must be the boy who goes to Edmonton and picks the girl out with his and talks them into going up there eh? WHat part of that do you think is ok? December 16, 2014 at 12:36pm

Edited to delete annoying wall of text

[–]Enavii_1 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Damn, he has someone helping him out now? Hopefully no one falls for it.

That guy looks creepy af too! (sorry to judge)

[–]DimDroog 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Judging people who help lure people to predators is not a bad thing. He does look creepy. Jhc, how does he keep getting away this?!

[–]spanky1337 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the stories on one of the blogs mentioned above, the stories from young men that went there often include him taking them to town, and having them try to help him pick up young women with the promises of free housing, learning a trade, working with the horses, training for modeling or commercial work, etc.

A lot of people said they weren't comfortable with this, but they assume he wanted them to help with it because young girls might feel more comfortable coming if there was a young man about their age there too.

[–]Jintess 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

"There have been reports that Pat is allegedly neglecting and/or abusing the horses on his property."

Do you think PETA would become involved? I sure hope so, for the sake of the horses.

[–]fullmetalcockblock[S] 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

That was something else I noticed about him. He had no regard toward animal life. When we talked about pets, he would say disturbing things about them dying and it not being a big deal. One day when we were all out working on a project, an adorable little mouse scurried by. It looked like a little round hamster. My husband loves animals, and his face lit up when he turned to me and opened his mouth to say "look! look at the little mouse!!" this guy proceeds to stomp on the mouse like it was nothing. it's bones crunched and he walked around with it's little body under his boot. My poor husbands face went from delighted to horrified, like he was going to puke.

[–]DimDroog 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I swear the timing is odd. Yesterday I rescued a mouse from my dog. The poor thing was squeaking in terror, and it bolted into a corner. I carried it outside (on a table of all things) and released it into a snowbank. It was a fat little thing! Very hamster like and cute. What a horrible man Carson is, for everything.

[–]TheBestVirginia 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't mean to make light of anything you've posted here, because it believe you and think you did well to trust your instincts. Just wanted to say how much I love your user name.

[–]champign0n 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha yea, I hadn't notice until you said. It cheered me up a bit.

[–]8thdoctor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That right there sounds like something straight out of the book/movie 'The Green Mile'. D: Poor little mouse!

[–]LilPupps 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

You want the ASPCA for that, not PETA. ASPCA does animal rescue and rehabilitation, PETA is more activism than anything.

[–]Jintess -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I hear you on that, however PETA is normally vocal enough to draw attention. Sounds like that is exactly what this calls for. That's terrible about the mouse OP :(

[–]LilPupps 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah but we're talking about actual animal rescue, not having pretty girls pose naked to protest fur. Plus PETA doesn't exactly have the best track record with what happens to what animals they do rescue.

[–]Jintess -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

But the attention they can get about this guy is worth it, yes?

[–]LilPupps 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

IDK the naked women seem more attention grabbing.

[–]Anaxamandrous 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

What if PETA sends naked Japanese women to the ranch to protest against the guy. Will his conflict between love and hate make him have a stroke?

[–]DimDroog 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

I made up a lie about an emergency back home, and when I told him, it was like he could see right through me. I'm convinced that he not only knew I was lying, but he knew I was going to lie about needing to leave before I even opened my mouth.

I got chills reading that. This is one of the best stories I've read on here. You say you aren't a great story teller? This was creepy as hell. I'm very interested in more stories and some hints too. :)

[–]DimDroog 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

OP, have you seen this? It's an audio of a murdered girl who was seen getting into a truck in Edmonton. A recording of her and unknown man were pulled from her phone. RCMP is seeking anyone who recognizes the mans voice. NSFW http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/news-nouvelles/2013/11-12-tuccaro-eng.htm

Edited to add a better recording. around 3:00 is just his voice http://metronews.ca/news/edmonton/351260/alberta-rcmp-release-disturbing-voice-recording-of-missing-woman-man/

[–]fullmetalcockblock[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have seen it. It is very hard to make out the mans voice from the short amount of time he speaks, but it didn't really sound like him to me.

[–]startedbackin77 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

You got me curious because I live in the West. What state was it?

Tell me more about the ritual part? Like religion or witchcraft ? That sounds pretty unsettling. I'm glad you and your husband didn't stay longer.

[–]fullmetalcockblock[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

It was in Canada. So on the full moon, we were brought way out into the woods behind the pastures, to a clearing i assume was specifically used for this ritual. he called it a healing ritual. we took turns standing in the circle and letting ourselves fall in whatever direction we felt natural. the direction would indicate if we were healers, or a number or weird other things. we were both healers. everyone said they were healers. then, he would tell us about his bad back, and ask us to stand on it. this is actually probably the creepiest thing. shoulda put it in the story.

[–]Zephinol 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reading all this makes me want to take a buddy and go there to figure this shit out

[–]startedbackin77 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

holy shit, that ritual sounds like rubbish. wtf? stand on his back? what a weirdo

[–]fullmetalcockblock[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

this guy was a true master of deceit and manipulation. he talked for days about how he sometimes does an "old native ritual". he made it sound sacred and interesting, and didn't force it on us. he framed all the creepiness in backstories and tried to relate to us, saying things like " its not for everyone. i thought it was so weird when i heard about it from the locals! but I respected them and gave it a go. " only in retrospect does it seem truly scary.

[–]spanky1337 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

to be fair, walking on people's backs is a legitimate thing. My grandmother used to have me and my siblings do it for her when we were young enough that it wasn't painful for her. Since she has a bad back. Of course it can't be done anymore (We're all fully grown more or less and she is a small woman who has had open heart surgery since) but there are even massage parlors where you go and small women will walk on your back. Some form of massage or something that helps with back pains.

[–]startedbackin77 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

as some sort of ritual?

[–]spanky1337 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

no haha, but the back walking because he has a bad back isn't that odd, just saying. Doing it as part of a ritual (or doing this odd ritual at all) is definitely weird.

[–]TropicoParadise_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not sleeping tonight. This is very interesting though. How long did you stay there?

[–]fullmetalcockblock[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

it was only a few weeks.

[–]TropicoParadise_ 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

ONLY? holy crap.

Were there any horses or animals actually there?

[–]fullmetalcockblock[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes, it was a legitimate horse ranch with plenty of work to be done.

[–]Anaxamandrous 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This dude creeps me out big time. That recording of the murdered girl freaks me out also, whether it was him or just some other super evil bastard operating in the same general area. It seems like some kind of hellscape, to have a high degree of confidence that man (Pat) is going to kill some young woman up there one day, if he hasn't already, but the police and the justice system up there are OK with that.

When the story breaks, it will be like that pig farm all over again.

Makes me wish, sometimes, a Dexter existed in real life.

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[–]BoxingBelle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not in BC is it?

[–]anthym29 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand how the police don't have enough evidence or how they couldn't investigate this more. Couldn't they get some kids (young adults) to go in undercover and just bust the shit out of this pervert? I mean, apparently there are endless accounts of how jacked this guy is.

[–]MouseMistro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh god! I'm only in Saskatchewan and have family in Alberta. How have I not heard of this guy??!