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OfficialWenger on Manchester United: "Let's not got overboard. They had a very experienced midfield and spent a lot of money." (twitter.com)

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[–]basedsims 464ポイント465ポイント  (23子コメント)

They played about 6 FM regens for fucks sake, has he lost the plot?

[–]AfricanRainI support Atom y Humber, not Arsenal 79ポイント80ポイント  (0子コメント)

comment of the year surely

[–]nlired 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, enough is enough.

[–]chrisjdgrady 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol!

[–]Arsenalboii(C) Koscielny, Best CB in the League[S] 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looooool, it's true

EDIT: Just remembered, Carrick at CB lmaoooo

[–]potatobac -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

They also had Carrick and Blind as CBs didn't they ?

Completely ridiculous comment.

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[–]MiniMoose10 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. He's fucking delusional

[–]josnton 93ポイント94ポイント  (3子コメント)

Seriously this is the best he could come up with, they spent a lot?

Fuck off.

[–]Aamir786 33ポイント34ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sorry Arsene but we have money now too. You chose to gamble with Wilshere staying fit and Ox stepping up with more goals to help Giroud and Sanchez and Walcott fire us to the title.... We didn't sign a single outfield player, we struggled with injuries and now our title challenge is on the brink again.

There's still a long way to go, but we've won just 3 of the last 10 in all completions. There is no room for error now. But we finally have a good team with good chemistry who HAVE shown some mental toughness. They are much better than the dross we had from 2008-2012. The fact that he can't get this team to win is just ridiculous, especially with our rivals under performing. I've always backed Arsene in even his worst moments, but I do believe he should be sacked if we don't win the title this season.

[–]snushundThere's your fairytale -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I dont think the team has that good chemistry.

[–]Aamir786 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, I meant more so in the dressing room. Not necessarily on the pitch.

[–]BPLDanAR8 62ポイント63ポイント  (6子コメント)

Wonderful excuse. If the midfield is so vital, why has ours been woeful for over a year now?

[–]idontknowofficer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You mean well over a decade since vieira left

[–]shoobiedoobie 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some of these comments make sense and there should definitely be a fair bit of criticism for Wenger making excuses once again. However, your comment is utterly BULLSHIT. Our midfield has been woeful for over a decade? How long have you even watched Arsenal? For you to say something like that is ridiculous.

[–]iGunn 107ポイント108ポイント  (3子コメント)

IS HE STILL GOING ON ABOUT THE MONEY SPENT ARGUMENT?!

[–]AbsoluteRubbish 59ポイント60ポイント  (2子コメント)

Only Arsene could consistently say you don't need to spend a ton to have a solid midfield and simultaneously argue that another teams midfield is better because they spent more.

If you acknowledge that spending money would give us a winning midfield, then spend money.

If you actually believe that we can build a top tier midfield without money than quit using it as an excuse.

[–]MilitantNegro_ver3 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's even more galling this season with Leicester sitting pretty at the top of the League.

[–]nomatophobia12 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The irony brings me tears.

[–]e_munyI'm in looove with Sanoogoo 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

I love Wenger. But this is insulting to the fans. He can't possibly ACTUALLY believe what he's saying. Ridiculous.

[–]idontknowofficer 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol this is not the first nor will it be the last he is insulting the intelligence of the fans and to be honest he might be right for doing so cause a good portion have been idiotic enough to believe his bull all these years.

[–]EllesarisEllendilMark my words, we'll win the league this season, 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He doesn't but its Wenger policy not to criticise the players.

[–]hujja 43ポイント44ポイント  (2子コメント)

He has the winning mentality of a sea sponge.

[–]Draek3n 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This. And betcha that his mentality passes on to the players.

[–]PaulChewsOnMyPhone 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

specialist in failure

[–]nlired 47ポイント48ポイント  (9子コメント)

That's it, I've officially had it with Wenger after all these years. Never thought i'd say it.

[–]SalvadorsDeli 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh god that is just pathetic. If there was ever a sign that he is just straight up out of ideas, this is it.

Leicester and Spurs running away with the league but it will continue to come back to 'we just don't have the money' for Wenger.

[–]nlired 37ポイント38ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just feel like giving everyone in here a big hug and a pint, think about all the shite we've had to watch over the years?

The Denilsons, the Chamacks, Bendtner, Silvestre... Now we actually have a strong and healthy squad and we still cant beat THIS UNITED?

This one is really on Wenger, i'm done. I've always stood behind him, supporting him with claims of we are always dealing with injuries, or that we cant compete with the big money.

The excuses are finally gone now, and its somewhat a relief. Wenger, as much as it pains me, needs to go.

[–]theRagingEwokIt's Jack Wilshere... It is the perfect start! 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

loooool this is a pathetic excuse

i expected more from you wenger :/

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    [–]Harry216 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

    He's not damaging the brand, he is settling for 4th place every season which is good enough for the board

    [–]BIGDENNIS10UK 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I never really believed it, but I'm a convert, they don't care whether they win anything at all, that top 4 is the only important thing and wenger is as much to blame as the board.

    "Let's keep this club ticking over" seems to be their motto.

    [–]idontknowofficer 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Took you long enough to smell the roses. People like you always did my head in with your blind devotion to the man instead of the club and its ambition.

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      [–]BestOfSilver 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Tbf he built the Arsenal brand.

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        [–]cash1357 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

        No he fucking didn't

        [–]SpammedYourGrandmaCongrats to /u/itsezmkay for the resident /r/gunners idiot crown 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

        and what is that brand? tippy tappy bullshit that wins nothing of note and charges their fans out the asshole for it?

        [–]ThereIsBearCumIn Arsene we rust 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Bull-fucking-shit. We were around 100+ years before Wenger, and we'll be around a long time after he's fucked off.

        [–]resident_hater 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

        God, shut the fuck up already. Have you ever admitted that something was your own fault?

        They have more money, they have more experience, they have more sugar in their tea, their toilet paper is softer. Give a fucking rest.

        [–]Arsenalboii(C) Koscielny, Best CB in the League[S] 52ポイント53ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Lol it's happened, he's lost it.

        [–]ThereIsBearCumIn Arsene we rust 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I'd say he lost it long ago... remember when he said something along the lines of "we've only really been beaten once this season" after having lost 5-1 to Liverpool, 6-0 to Chelsea, 6-3 to City, etc.

        [–]nebyzark 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

        And what about Leicester? Did they also spent a lot of money?

        Fuck off!!!!

        [–]ni2tre 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

        It's not Man Utd's or anyone's fault that Wenger thought he could go from 3rd to champion with one signing. He has the resources to spend if he wants and controls all the ins and goings at this club so he's the last person who can use this excuse.

        [–]bellend1234Aaron Hamstring 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

        'We have Sanogo.'

        [–][deleted] 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Is Wenger suicidal or something? Even if he believes this, he shouldn't say it out in public immediately after that game. He's usually very good with the media, but this is a very bad thing to say.

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          [–]sarcasticgoonerTop qualitee. 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          How is stating facts the reason that we lost? Sure their midfield was experienced and yes they've spent a lot of money, but they also had an 18 year old forward and a defence that we would've been happy with back in the days of Squillaci.

          I honestly don't get his point, it's like he picks excuses out of a hat nowadays and doesn't give a shit if it makes sense.

          [–]d_smogh 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Please stop talking Wenger. No excuses. You're talking needs to start in the dressing room.

          [–]hollowcrown51 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Send him to a home.

          [–][deleted] 22ポイント23ポイント  (15子コメント)

          I dream of the day we get a new manager.

          [–]mmk270 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          fuck watching the league cup final and wishing we had gone in for klopp, seems the type of man manager the team has never had.

          [–]AfricanRainI support Atom y Humber, not Arsenal 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Same, the prospect of it actually has me really excited.

          [–]eliseperfectday 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Would love to see what someone else could do with this squad. Genuinely excited for the day.

          [–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Except all the top managers have been taken now. We dilly-dallied too long with wenger. We could have had Guardiola ffs.

          [–]Martian_sonJack 'Wild Here' Wilshere 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Manuel Pellegrini! Great with youth and a proven EPL winner.

          [–]ThereIsBearCumIn Arsene we rust 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Just because all of the big names are taken doesn't mean there are no top managers out there. I mean, look at who's top of the league.

          [–]EllesarisEllendilMark my words, we'll win the league this season, 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I say we take Pochettino from Spurs.

          [–]ThereIsBearCumIn Arsene we rust 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Would be hilarious, we should drive a convoy of lorries filled with cash up to his house and see if he signs on.

          [–]lilleulv 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          We probably couldn't. More money to play with and better pay at City.

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            [–]eliseperfectday 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

            What a dreadful comment. He is obsessed by 'resources'. Yes, United have spent a lot of money. We have spent some money as well and could have spent quite a bit more. This game was nothing to do with money spent and all about a patched up United making us look like cunts.

            [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            It was, indeed. What a dreadful day.

            [–]Power2DaPeopleWENGER OUT 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Fucking idiot, lost the plot. Their team was bang average and there should be no excuses.

            [–]scouting4foodWe live in Mesut Ozil's world. 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Madman.

            [–]ndhuutai 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            It's funny how he cares about other people's spending. It's like telling a billionaire not to spend his money when he's earned it.

            [–]iAmWrythm 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Oh fuck off with that.

            [–]Im-That-Dude 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Is this a fucking joke? Herrera is experienced? All he had was a short time at Bilbao and has never been capped for Spain at 26 years old. They played 2 midfielders at CB and a CB at LB and a guy nobody has heard about until a few days ago scored a brace against us. If he gives any reason besides shit defending, then he is all excuses. Money spent isn't exactly an argument when 1st and 2nd are Leicester and Spurs and you could have spent money too but you had faith in your squad.

            [–]_Vesper_ 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I first I tought that this was a parody account, either he's lost it or he thinks that we are idiots

            [–]SetoKaibaCity 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Wenger thinks "spending a lot of money" is immoral but has no problems with ticket prices and picking up his 8m a year.

            What a hack. Sorta wish he lost to Leicester to expose what a fraud he is. Atleast George Lucas had the decency to sell Star Wars.

            [–]merbutler 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Fuck off.

            [–]AfricanRainI support Atom y Humber, not Arsenal 64ポイント65ポイント  (5子コメント)

            utterly pathetic. What about that defence, what about that future league-2 striker looking like Suarez against us?

            [–]oolalaa 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Rashford is looking like a better Welbeck, tbh.

            [–]basedsims 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

            He'll remember this day when he's playing for Walsall in 2021 with Reece Oxford

            [–]kcason 67ポイント68ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Lmao you guys are making snap judgements on an 18 year old kid who's only played two senior games and scored 4 times. Let him develop a little before you say he is league 2 quality

            [–]kwatto 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

            probably the same people who are on sanogo's dick again after yesterday

            [–]bellend1234Aaron Hamstring -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            lmao

            [–]Butler-n-RoseObi-Wan Iwobi 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            is he for real?

            [–]thehermitcoder 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Wenger needs to look at himself and decide whether he can still contribute to Arsenal as a manager that is actually capable of lifting the Premier League crown or maybe pass the mantle to someone else with a different way of doing things and himself move onto other roles within the club.

            [–]Dark_ZizouOmnia Quaerite.. 41ポイント42ポイント  (10子コメント)

            Under Fergie, a United side including Antonio Valencia, Ashley Young, Tom Cleverley, Anderson, Nani and Jonny Evans mauled an Arsenal side with kids (also worth noting that we had senior players in Van Persie, Walcott, Arshavin, Rosicky, Ramsey, Koscielny and Djourou playing) 8-2.

            Under Wenger, an Arsenal side on paper containing Ozil, Cech, Sanchez, Monreal, Koscielny, etc gets beaten 3-2 by a United side stuffed with kids and missing their 2 best forwards in Martial and Rooney.

            That’s the difference between a world class manager and an utter fraud.

            [–]LDN2016welbeck's bleached asshole 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

            tbf young and valencia were mauling most cl fullbacks

            evans and rio were easily the best cb pairing in the league that season. evans has been outperforming kos, per and gabs most of this season.

            ando and clevs were both really good before their injuries. teenage ando was starting cl finals and benching scholes. he got fat later but he was a phenomenal talent.

            [–]maidentaiwanKanu believe it?! 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

            this is so revisionist. that team was far greater than the sum of its parts because of ferguson's influence and tactics, not because it was a team of dynamos. arsenal's current squad is more talented by a mile.

            [–]LDN2016welbeck's bleached asshole 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            You could say the same about Leicester.

            A player is only as useful as his usefulness to the system.

            You can have the best touch in the world like Mata but if you're painfully slow you could end up being a massive liability on the wing.

            I think the United 2012/13 squad was a much better fit for SAF and his tactics/mentality than this Arsenal team.

            [–]chrisjdgrady 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

            lol @ fraud. Piss off.

            [–]GullibleFool 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I think you're taking it a little far with calling Wenger a fraud. I am fuming like the rest of you, but come on.

            [–]Dark_ZizouOmnia Quaerite.. 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Do we have a manager who does everything he can with the resources at his disposal to make Arsenal the very best team they can be, with no obvious holes or deficiencies in the side and with the best possible chance of success?

            [–]GullibleFool 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Well, no. He could use more resources. He is still not a fraud. That's a ridiculous claim.

            [–]thechilltime -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Wow

            [–]realdurrty 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out

            [–]mrboombastic123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Might as well assess things at the end of the season - firing him at this stage of the season, 5 points off the top with no backup plan would be crazy.

            [–]_Yolk 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

            i'd rather him man the fuck up and talk about how he failed today rather than push a shite excuse our way that nobody is going to swallow

            [–]thehermitcoder 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            So what exactly is his point? To spend or not to spend?

            [–]ThereIsBearCumIn Arsene we rust 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            So if spending money is the only thing it takes to win, why don't we spend some fucking money then?

            [–]colucci 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Well maybe if spending money gets you wins, you should try it.

            [–]sirlockit 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            If that's the issue, that is spending "a lot of money", well why the hell did we only spend ~10 million, and not even on an outfield player?

            edit: Shit, the player didn't even have to be world class, we knew we needed backup. Gah.

            [–]gorillathunderThe Gunner Galactico 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            This really is unbelievable to me. How he can come out and talk about money spent when we had the money there and he talks about players being 'unavailable'.

            Bollocks.

            [–]islander1 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Please, such tired excuses.

            [–]mbrw12Mezza4eva 6ポイント7ポイント  (20子コメント)

            If he doesn't win the league I want him out now

            [–]Arsenalboii(C) Koscielny, Best CB in the League[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

            AKBs downvoting this is brilliant btw.

            [–]Langbrev 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            What's a AKB

            [–]Arsenalboii(C) Koscielny, Best CB in the League[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

            "Arsene Knows Best" People that will stick with him no matter what. Delusional to the point where they try to find positives out of frustrating loses that should have been easy wins.

            [–]mrgirltalk 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Even the fucking Twitter guy couldn't type it right - he's probably shaking with anger. He lets it come through every now and then with his passive-aggressive ellipses.

            [–]49Undefeated49As strong as Granit 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            NO MORE EXCUSES. NO MORE HIDING. THE BOARD HAS BACKED YOU, AND YOU HAVE FAILED. Now please gracefully get the FUCK out of my club. No amount of lip service can dig you out of not winning the league this year. If Spurs or Leicester win, there will be fucking hell to pay.

            [–]Draek3n 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            So he's saying that they had an inexperienced stricker and defence. Lol

            [–]JayGooner14 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            These excuses make me want to vomit.

            [–]sevinx 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Wenger: Blaming it on our player's "inexperience" since 2003

            [–]Swamppighi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Heard this before, Arsene

            [–]Walkers_Crisp 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

            We've spent a lot of money also?

            [–]rtdasdwilslad 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Umm, us not spending money is one of the fans' major gripes with the club.

            [–]Fumblepony 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            im not for wenger out, but i really, really dont fucking like him right now

            read these as they came up on twitter, i was in disbelief

            [–]mojoobikenobi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            LOL.. That's what he had to say? Comical!

            [–]gonnagetlucky 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Asshole. Shut your fucking mouth.

            [–]Shakermaker555 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Absolutely nobody can defend this statement. His excuse making is just pathetic.

            [–]ansariasOoh to be 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I normally back Wenger. But even I can't say anything for him this time. He fucked up. Big time. Walcott up front? Are you taking the piss mate? And then coming up with this shitty excuse. You may have just lost us the title Arsene.

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              [–]Arsenalboii(C) Koscielny, Best CB in the League[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Great insight, really telling us a lot about Wenger's comments. Lol jk, ignore the flair.

              [–]jackstep128 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              we still cant do it.... ahahah we still cant fucking do it! A man united team worse than the moyes one! with half their team injured and us one player away from full strength .. we still cant do it.. Im just bored of losing at old trafford now. P.S walcott the reason we played you today was because we thought you were quicker than blind and carrick.. aperently not.

              [–]coldblood11There's 'ya fairytale. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I respect the man, but their first eleven today was basically Juan Mata + their U-21 squad at the beginning of the season.

              No point in excuse making at the moment, we lost and it's time to move on. With or without Wenger.

              [–]ColinHalfhand 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Regardless of the content of what he is saying, and I usually agree with Arsene, the thing that upsets me most is the excuses.

              At some point we need to stand up and realise what we are fighting for. Today felt like we had no particular plan and worse than that, like we had no real fire.

              I truly hope between now and next weeks NLD Arsene works out how to fire this team up. Because the title is still in our grasp if we could just turn up.

              [–]NotLLCoolJ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I love Wenger. I really, really do. But saying this is just infuriating. He even had the fucking audacity to say we showed good desire and commitment. Is he completely delusional or just out of excuses?

              [–]EMAWGooner"Sterling is better than Ozil" - Michael Owen 4/4/15 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Big time Arsene supporter, but that's an indefensible statement.

              [–]Fidel-Sartre 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It's not an excuse in anyway, but United played a 2nd string sort of youth squad yet it still cost more than ours.

              [–]RCFProd -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Everyone makes arguments out of frustration, maybe just ignore it. He is clearly down after that loss.

              [–]b0vary -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I don't get why some people think that these comments are Wenger excusing the loss or more importantly that they're the crux of his analysis on the match. They were in response to a question of wether or not it was fair to say that Arsenal had lost to youngsters today and if this was an opportunity missed. The question is obviously loaded, which is normal enough in football interviews, but you're all jumping on Wenger for not agreeing with the question's click baity premise. Because while there were youngsters who played important parts today, the spine of that team was herrera, mata, schneiderlin, carrick, rojo and de gea, who aren't tweens and who all cost lots of money. So not a very controversial answer.

              [–]iris201 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

              i don't even need to read the posts here, I can already tell it's a bunch of delusional Americans that can't see past a quote for the context. He's referencing the media pretending we got beat by a Sunday league team. It was a largely inexperienced team, but it wasn't a giant-killing.