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Let's have a respectful debate on policy. (self.EnoughTrumpSpam)

Nyypinstripes が 投稿

I voted for Donald Trump, and there are things that scare me about his presidency. Let talk, not divide guys. So go ahead, ask me anything.

Edit: My SO would like to head out to dinner sometime this century, so I'll be back to answer all of your questions in an hour or two. My apologies, but I shall return to answer all of your questions.

And thank you guys for actually participating in a rational discussion. We may disagree, but it doesn't mean we can't talk to one another.

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[–]Zepaw 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

What Trump policies do you support? I don't mean that hyperbolically. He literally holds multiple positions in the same paragraph.

[–]Nyypinstripes[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe in lower taxes on small businesses, see how I own one.

I believe in true change in government. His presidency will usher in a new era of government, that doesn't require you to be a lifetime politician to run and win. Heck, if can run, why can't Tom Hanks? Lol

I believe in negotiating trade deals that benefit American workers.

I also believe in rebuilding our countries infrastructure, and fixing our inner cities. Something he promised in his acceptance speech.

I'll be the first one to help organize a fight against the Whitehouse, if he goes after DOMA. As a gay Republican, life ain't exactly easy when talking to my own party members.

[–]Zepaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe in true change in government. His presidency will usher in a new era of government, that doesn't require you to be a lifetime politician to run and win.

I would support this as well if I believed it were true. Trump isn't draining the swamp. He is the swamp. Know how he called Goldman Sachs' Jamie Diamond "The worst banker in America" while rumors were Clinton might make him treasury secretary? I agree! Keep that guy miles away from government. Oh wait, guess who the Trump camp just asked if he would like to be treasury secretary... That's just one example. His administration is being stocked with people you should (rightly) hate.

I believe in negotiating trade deals that benefit American workers.

This was always his best message and one that did real damage to Clinton during the debates IMO. What scares me is there is a reason we tend to go with people who have experience in government and diplomacy. There is a real chance Trump pulls us out of agreements making us an international pariah. Trump isn't even a successful business man. I know he has told us he is smart for all the bankruptcies and lawsuits he has been involved in but you know what would be smarter? Not going bankrupt and being constantly caught up in lawsuits. He would actually be sued more but he really is smart. He stiffs contracters, paying them just enough that it isn't worth taking him to court. He finds the amount where the legal fees would cost more than what is owed.

I believe in lower taxes on small businesses, see how I own one.

Will we ever have a discussion of where tax rates should be? Republicans have been the party of sweeping tax cuts for over 40 years. Tax has become a dirty word.

I'll be the first one to help organize a fight against the Whitehouse, if he goes after DOMA.

All he needs is one of the 4 liberal Supreme Court justices to die or retire and when a new case comes up Roe v Wade and Gay Marriage are gone. Public Sector unions as well. Those actually would have died this summer except Scalia's death made it 4-4 not 5-4. The justices Trump put forward during the campaign had conservatives salivating. They will tear those things down.

[–]Scraa 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I voted for Donald Trump

Go fuck yourself.

[–]nicodemusfleur -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Curious about a few things, so thank you for giving me the opportunity to have a rational discussion:

1.) How have you voted in past elections? Have you always been Republican, or was this a recent change?

2.) What did you base your voting decision on, and why did that policy/position tip the scale in his favor for you personally?

3.) Trump said a lot of things that he will not be able to do (because they are unconstitutional, because it is impossible to do, or because he just didn't speak the truth about his intentions) - what you you expect him to be able to legitimately implement?

4.) Were you worried before about how his verbal rhetoric would stir up social tensions, or did you not expect his election to bring an element of fear to a lot of people?

(edited because I suck at formatting)

[–]GKCsNewArchnemisis -5ポイント-4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Democrats don't want to have a debate on policy. They are too dumb for that. They can only react to buzzwords

Maybe Hillary would have won if they called his sexist 5 million more times.

[–]Zepaw 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Everytime I've ever tried to debate a Trump supporter it becomes a referendum on Clinton. She lost the fucking election and I still can't bring up a point without "but Clinton..." NO! Fuck that. She lost and it's time to face how much of a disaster our President-Elect is and will continue to be.

Sidenote every Trump supporter whines that r/politics is biased but I only know that because they don't ban for dissenting opnion like The_Donald does.

[–]Nyypinstripes[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

God, I hate that too. Jesus people, read a book. The current IQ of Trump supporters on the internet is 12. I just wish we could talk, work through our differences with out becoming vitriolic and spiteful.

[–]GKCsNewArchnemisis -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well at least you didn't call me a racist, sexist, LGBTIAXYZLMNOPphobic, transphobic, islamaphobic, christianophoic, anti-semetic, nazi bigot.

[–]Zepaw [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Look the people who do that are self righteous assholes but realize I deal with it all day long from the other side too. Trump supports are just as quick to shout down dissent online.

[–]Nyypinstripes[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't believe that is true. Uneducated people don't want to have a debate on the issues.