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[–]Crappler319 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm about to make a post about the effects of this election that I suspect isn't going to necessarily jive well with a lot of posters in this subreddit. I've had it in my head since Tuesday night, but I wasn't sure whether it was even necessary to post, but in the face of what seems to be pretty clear evidence that hate crimes are going to be on the rise, I think that it needs to be said.

I hope that it's allowed within the rules of the sub, but if it isn't, I apologize. It's coming from a place of concern, and I don't have any agenda other than wanting folks to be safe from bigoted, violent assholes.

If you or someone you know feels unsafe in their home, neighborhood or what have you as a result of the election and the potential emboldening of racists and bigots of all stripes, it is entirely reasonable to buy a firearm and learn to responsibly defend yourself.

This is not a call to any sort of violence. I hope like hell you never, ever have cause to use it if you do get one, you should never, ever use it except in extremis, and it's up to the individual if the benefits outweigh the risks in their own household. But if you are in honest fear for your safety, you do not have to be a passive actor waiting helplessly to be victimized.

Owning a gun does not make you violent, or a bad person, or a conservative, or a gun nut, or what have you. Firearms in the United States have a long history of use as an equalizer in the hands of persecuted minorities, from Native Americans to early 20th century African Americans fighting off the Klan. There is a good reason that very early gun control efforts were applied disproportionately to African Americans: an armed community is infinitely harder to victimize than an unarmed community. You can not, with impunity, violently assault armed individuals.

It is your natural right to defend yourself and your family. There is nothing unsavory about it. I know that a lot of people with a liberal slant have an almost totemic hatred of firearms, and for some maybe that hasn't changed with this election...and that's okay. If you aren't comfortable with having a firearm in your home, that is an entirely valid decision, and I would never ever pressure you to get one. For others, though, you might be on the fence now. Maybe your fear of what might be coming is conflicting with your distaste. Maybe you think that guns are for neanderthals, that you're being unreasonable, that firearm ownership is something that only The Other Side does. But seeing to your own defense does not make you a bad person, or a bad liberal, or what have you. If you have weighed the options and made a rational choice that you are in fear and want to be able to defense yourself, that is a valid choice.

If you know in your head that you want/need a firearm, but your heart is rebelling, please: take this post as permission. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BUY A FIREARM AND LEARN TO DEFEND YOURSELF. IT IS YOUR RIGHT, IT IS REASONABLE, IT IS OKAY.

If you do weigh the options and make the personal choice to purchase and learn to operate a firearm, http://www.pinkpistols.org has a list of LGBT friendly instructors. They are absolutely everywhere, and the overwhelming majority of them will no doubt be friendly with minorities of any stripe (so, for that matter, will most any 'normal' instructor, but if you're nervous that a random person won't be sympathetic, go with someone on the Pink Pistols list). They'll get you started, familiarize you with your state's laws, find the gun that's right for you, etc.

Again, I'm sorry if this is against the rules (I couldn't find one that it would be against, but it's entirely possible that I'm missing something) but I think it needs to be said. You don't have to be fearful of victimization in your own home, your own city, your own country. The United States is yours every bit as much as it is theirs. No one has any right to make you feel unsafe, or harm you, or try to intimidate you in your own country.

It is a right and just thing to defend yourself from violence, whether it's the Klan, or Skinheads, or just angry young men who are mad at the world and see you as a weak target because you're gay, or trans, or an outnumbered racial minority.

If you believe that there are people who want to harm you because you don't fit their homogeneous, nativist view of their culture and living space, you don't have to let them.

[–]Iratus 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

As a left-winger, pacifist, gun owner: this dude/ette speaks the truth. If you are afraid, you have the same rights everyone else have, ALL OF THEM. So use them sanely.

[–]WorseThanHipster 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey, I mod the place, I own plenty of guns and want to get more anyways. I would say, DO NOT get a gun just because you don't feel safe. You have to respect them. If it's just a thing to make you feel better and you load it and throw it in a drawer somewhere it's a recipe for disaster.

Gun safety is common sense to (some) gun owners. It is not to the layman. Watch some videos, go to a range, talk to your family gun enthusiast. As a veteran and firearm safety "enthusiast," they may seem crazy, but they are generally the safest people to be around with a weapon, because they know it and respect it. If you're gonna own one, ESPECIALLY if you think you'll ever need to rely on one, you should too. They'll also likely be glad to tell you how to take it apart and clean it, and of course, fire it.

Even if you don't want to conceal carry, take a class if it's your first gun. PLEASE. I don't care if you shot your dads a few times as a kid. If you don't think you could GIVE a class on firearm safety, you should take instruction, even if you have to pay for it. They will let you know what your rights are regarding self defense in your area.

Finally, shooting a hand gun is not easy. Shooting a pistol when you're nervous is 100x harder. Shooting it while you're not nervous needs to be second nature, muscle memory, if you plan to ever pull the trigger when you need it. If you don't think you can spend weeks learning safety, maintenance, and effective marksmanship in a year, I'm talking one full day a month at least dedicated to reading/listening/watching/practicing, then you are LITERALLY safer without a gun. Statistically, owning a gun GREATLY increases the risk of you and everyone in your home to being wounded or killed by a firearm. This is because some people are good with firearms, and some are not. Don't be a statistic.


tl;dr: don't buy a gun because you are scared. buy a gun because you want one, and you are ready.

[–]Crappler319 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude, for the record. =) But yeah, definitely.

Don't let people persecute you. If that happens, the people doing it win.

I understand that that's easy for me to say, as a traditionally masculine, white, heteronormative man. No one is ever going to call me a racial or homophobic slur in the street, or throw a bottle at my head because of who I am, or try to drive me out of a store because 'I don't belong there'.

I live in the cultural and political equivalent of a temperate zone. I can absorb a few degrees of increased cultural heat and barely feel it. No matter what happens, I am extremely likely to be okay.

I don't know what to say to the folks that aren't as lucky in that respect except that I entirely reject the idea that I belong here more than they do just because I wouldn't look out of place in a Norman Rockwell painting.

Please, please be safe, and do what you have to do to stay that way, even if you would've found it unthinkable a week or two ago.

[–]RNGmaster 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know who you are, but I want you to know that I love you and will protect you. Solidarity!

[–]LIATG 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of us are facing an unprecedented level of fears. Friends have already been caught up in post election violence, and I'm sure there's going to be more. Everyone stay safe, and stay strong. There's kinks in the road to justice but we have to keep fighting

"Sometimes you give em hell/and sometimes there's hell to pay/But they know damn well/that we are not going away/We may be lying through our teeth/But we'll still sing we are not afraid/And friends i swear that i'll keep singing/if they take you away"

Evan Greer

[–]PeasThatTasteGross 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

One thing I have come to a conclusion is that a lot of the open bigotry we have seen is not magic or overnight. A switch wasn't flicked on when Trump won and suddenly people became racist, etc., these are beliefs that have been with these people prior. It's just some of the idiots feel with it is now acceptable.

In that sense, I feel the problem is much deeper. Even if Hilary won, there is an implication these people would at least not be as brave with open prejudice. The fact is these people are still bigoted. And I feel that is where the root of the problem lies, making the conditions so that these people are less likely to be openly racist, sexist is like closing the blinds on the window when you see a fire outside.

The solution is to tackle the bigotry and prejudice. You won't change everyone's minds, but it is worth the try - the fact Glenn Beck had an epiphany after seeing Trump and co, and has started doing things like respecting Obama and empathizing (though not supporting) with BLM is mind-blowing. For the people's minds you can't change, I think you have to start with the future generations and work on from there.

I feel aside from a failure to reach out to the rural types that supported Trump politically, I feel the failure extends to not at the very least showing them more education towards being more open minded.

[–]JermanTK 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel aside from a failure to reach out to the rural types that supported Trump politically, I feel the failure extends to not at the very least showing them more education towards being more open minded

This, this is all to true and part of the reason Trump won, among other factors, but I don't want to start anymore arguments on this subreddit, as we all know how well those went in the past...

[–]flyingtacodog -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Double that. I dunno how much I can help but as a lezzie MtF I may be able to be of some assistance

[–]JermanTK -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Might want to sticky this.