I don’t think you understand us right now.
I think you think this is about politics.
I think you believe this is all just sour grapes; the crocodile tears of the losing locker room with the scoreboard going against us at the buzzer.
I can only tell you that you’re wrong. This is not about losing an election. This isn’t about not winning a contest. This is about two very different ways of seeing the world.
Hillary supporters believe in a diverse America; one where religion or skin color or sexual orientation or place of birth aren’t liabilities or deficiencies or moral defects. Her campaign was one of inclusion and connection and interdependency. It was about building bridges and breaking ceilings. It was about going high.
Trump supporters believe in a very selective America; one that is largely white and straight and Christian, and the voting verified this. Donald Trump has never made any assertions otherwise. He ran a campaign of fear and exclusion and isolation—and that’s the vision of the world those who voted for him have endorsed.
They have aligned with the wall-builder and the professed p*ssy-grabber, and they have co-signed his body of work, regardless of the reasons they give for their vote:
Every horrible thing Donald Trump ever said about women or Muslims or people of color has now been validated.
Every profanity-laced press conference and every call to bully protestors and every ignorant diatribe has been endorsed.
Every piece of anti-LGBTQ legislation Mike Pence has championed has been signed-off on.
Half of our country has declared these things acceptable, noble, American.
This is the disconnect and the source of our grief today. It isn’t a political defeat that we’re lamenting, it’s a defeat for Humanity.
We’re not angry that our candidate lost. We’re angry because our candidate’s losing means this country will be less safe, less kind, and less available to a huge segment of its population, and that’s just the truth.
Those who have always felt vulnerable are now left more so. Those whose voices have been silenced will be further quieted. Those who always felt marginalized will be pushed further to the periphery. Those who feared they were seen as inferior now have confirmation in actual percentages.
Those things have essentially been campaign promises of Donald Trump, and so many of our fellow citizens have said this is what they want too.
This has never been about politics.
This is not about one candidate over the other.
It’s not about one’s ideas over another’s.
It is not blue vs. red.
It’s not her emails vs. his bad language.
It’s not her dishonesty vs. his indecency.
It’s about overt racism and hostility toward minorities.
It’s about religion being weaponized.
It’s about crassness and vulgarity and disregard for women.
It’s about a barricaded, militarized, bully nation.
It’s about an unapologetic, open-faced ugliness.
And it is not only that these things have been ratified by our nation that grieve us; all this hatred, fear, racism, bigotry, and intolerance—it’s knowing that these things have been amen-ed by our neighbors, our families, our friends, those we work with and worship alongside. That is the most horrific thing of all. We now know how close this is.
It feels like living in enemy territory being here now, and there’s no way around that. We wake up today in a home we no longer recognize. We are grieving the loss of a place we used to love but no longer do. This may be America today but it is not the America we believe in or recognize or want.
This is not about a difference of political opinion, as that’s far too small to mourn over. It’s about a fundamental difference in how we view the worth of all people—not just those who look or talk or think or vote the way we do.
Grief always laments what might have been, the future we were robbed of, the tomorrow that we won’t get to see, and that is what we walk through today. As a nation we had an opportunity to affirm the beauty of our diversity this day, to choose ideas over sound bytes, to let everyone know they had a place at the table, to be the beacon of goodness and decency we imagine that we are—and we said no.
The Scriptures say that weeping endures for a night but joy comes in the morning. We can’t see that dawn coming any time soon.
And this is why we grieve.
Hope and change are finally on the way. BO promised it, Donald Trump delivers it.
a country divided in despair and grief. I pray he has handlers. This article spoke to the essence. Trump supporters wont see it. Clinton voters understood a deeper cause, many didn’t like her but saw the cause. I hope the Trump supporters can live with this. Treasure life we have until he takes office, a change is going to come, and not a good one.
Beautifully said! This article described the America I believe in. I grieve because so many Americans apparently don’t.
You don’t think if the tables were turned that the other side would “grieve?” You’re ignorant if you don’t think that.
Please, take a moment and tell everyone here what the other side would have grieved had the tables been turned.
I am genuinely curious.
I would have grieved at the prospect of continued unsustainable economics driven by an entitled welfare state that is the progressive liberal left.
The record high stock market, the record high corporate profits, or the incredibly low unemployment rate? If the past few presidencies have shown corporate America anything, they make more money under a Democrat than under the failing economy of a Republican.
Sorry but that is not the complete picture, a national debt level never seen before trumps that. Democrats writing checks against an empty account is the issue.
Don’t grieve. Pay your debts, move forward.
The fact is that over the last forty years, only Democratic presidents have made progress in lowering the national debt. Obama’s increase in debt was caused by his use of more honest accounting that figured in the cost of the Iraq and Afghan wars. Clinton’s plans were deficit neutral — Trump’s plans would increase the deficit.
Oh please!! What kind of “COOLAID” have you been drinking?? Take those Dumboocratic rose colored glasses off and smell their “bull€h£t”!
This really is the problem that we face as a nation. Truly uninformed citizens who have been fed distorted and incomplete truths from the media who would much rather lie to you than put the real truth out there for you to see. Do you REALLY believe that we ADDED 10 trillion dollars to the national debt in the last 8 years due to improper accounting ?? THAT IS THE PROBLEM!!
Are you kidding or do you think you are a comedian? Because this is so far from what is happening. We have more people accepting welfare than any time in our lives. Our debt is because they keep adding more programs to keep poor people poor, forcing people to meet silly EPA requirements, walls being built along freeways for noise abatement (Uh, the freeway was there before your house and we putting up a noise abatement wall?)……..TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT!!! Entertainment in the White House of such horrible people dressed in inappropriate outfits and the White House is saying they want to empower women? I cannot believe that you have let the media lead you down this path.
You can’t really believe that. Noone is that delusional…
Prove it. Your comments are ancedotal.
Trump never paid his debts….
Thank you for your stating the obvious. Why do people not see the obvious? Sigh!
Great point…
“Trump supporters believe in a very selective America; one that is largely white and straight and Christian, and the voting verified this. Donald Trump has never made any assertions otherwise. He ran a campaign of fear and exclusion and isolation—and that’s the vision of the world those who voted for him have endorsed.”
Your opening statement is utterly asinine. How can you simply lump together the way ALL trump supporters think and feel?
You sit there and are writing pure drivel. Your words written here just fuels the race bating narrative the progressive left keeps trying to push. Identity politics at its best.
You’re just pissed because a majority of people just elected a total outsider. The left just lost control over acquiring money and how they would spend it.
Try another angle on how we all feel today. It’s just not sticking. And we are all not grieving. Some of us actually feel good. The real grief here is how liberals just lost control and power, and are trying to pin it on Trump and his supporters by calling names.
Classic Alinsky tactics. You’re a fool. Identity politics and political correctness is swiftly coming to an end.
Rude ass
Eugene, you are the prime example of why people are upset.
The majority of the people DID NOT elect an outsider. Clinton won the popular vote.
Actually, the majority of the people elected Hillary Clinton….do your research and check the popular vote numbers. The electoral college went in Trump’s favor, but over 200,000 more people voted for Clinton.
Excuse me, but the majority of the country did not vote for Mr. Trump. Mrs. Clinton has received the majority of the recorded popular vote. But even still, the numbers are so close, it’s weak to argue that either side represents a majority of our country. Rather, turnout indicates a very solid spilt between voters.
Please try to prove your point with meaningful words rather than childish insults.
Well said Eugene.
A majority of people did not elect Trump. There’s a difference between popular vote and electoral votes.
Actually the “majority of people” did not elect Trump. The popular vote went to Clinton. The Electoral College is what got Trump Elected. According to Trump, “The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy,” I bet he’s changed his tune now….
Wrong Obama cleaned up Bushes debt. He created more jobs raised up minimum wages. Wait till trumps steals your money like he has done to millions of people. He left a lot people out of jobs with his Many Bankruptcies. Please don’t hide these facts.
Many people’s money has been taken (stolen) from them for years now to pay for government programs. Just check your cell phone bill! That’s just one example… I’m sure I’m not the only person who works 2-4 jobs just to survive and so much of my money is “stolen” to pay for those that don’t contribute and just take and take!! I don’t see how Trump’s economic plans could make it worse for me and others like me…
You are silly enough to think Obama cleaned up Bush’s debt? He has added trillions to the debt. He has created more debt than any other president before him. Can you ever quit blaming Bush for the complete failure that is Obama?
You talking about Reagans debt? He tripled the debt while in office.
You’re hilarious. The biggest budget deficit on record is FY2009- also known as Bush’s last budget. Vanishing 7 million jobs while waging an invasion on credit will certainly screw your budget. Watch as any Republican concern over the debt vanishes as they slash taxes for the richest people in history.
Bush doubled the debt…a whoppig $5 trillion in 8 yrs from 5 to 10 trillion. Obama douled that to $20 trillion in 7 1/2 years
Yea Hillary voted for that war and Trump said he was not in favor of that war c’mon folks it’s time to unite for change people voted for Trump because of failed policies over the past 8 years I voted Trump I’m Hispanic I don’t see him as racist because I don’t buy into the mainstream media BS
You would of grieved over money. We grieve over humanity. Big difference.
I would grieve any loss of real, living, beating heart humanity. I do every day I assure you. But I don’t just grieve and believe the system will listen to my grief statements. I do something and I bet so do you. That is what will make the difference. Not any politician can change that or improve upon what I choose to do (which has been alot), just like you I bet. LZ
Very well said LZ
I would grieve over late term abortions. I would grieve over far left supreme court decisions. I would grieve over a lack of security for our nation’s borders. And yes, I would grieve over the entitlement of the progressive liberals.
I can’t wait for the wallto throw you over it.
Sorry your so unhappy and filled with hate. Get some therapy or you will continue to be unhappy
Partial birth abortions are already illegal, and late-term abortions (after 18-24 weeks) are already illegal in nearly every state in this country. Hillary wining would not have changed this.
Good one I cry over murdered baby’s isis
Ah yes – I think Jesus would feel the same way.
Im with you well said!
Indeed..
Well said
Truth.
Money beat humanity.
Lie, truth is humanity beat money
Lie, truth is humanity beat money
Humanity is not ripping real live innocent babies apart piece by piece.
Great reply!
HUMANITY! The humanity that is ripped from the womb and sucked up into a plastic container to be discarded into a biohazard bin? Is this the humanity of which you speak? If so, can you explain to me why you haven’t been mourning much longer than 24 hours?
If you truly grieved humanity, then you would refuse to support a candidate that thinks a living being in the womb one minute is not living… and then in that same minute outside the womb, is.
Or vice versa, as you do?
Very eloquent, yet maudlin and self-absorbed nonsense, John. Go ahead and wallow for a day or two; that’s allowed. But, if you really want to know EXACTLY why Trump got elected and Hillary and the Democrats were roundly denied? Ready? Go get yourself a copy of “The Clinton’s War On Women”. Read it from cover to cover, take notes, and meditate on what you’ve just read. Then you’ll actually have a valid reason to seriously grieve. But, this condescending and contrived diatribe based on misplaced guilt and your own personal religious backlash only fills white space and serves your ego. All of your finger pointing is nothing more than projection from deep within the well of the modern liberal psyche. Get over yourself and go get some sleep, pardner. Everything’s gonna be alright.
Well said.
You grieve over humanity? So what about the unborn? Are they just not included in the part of humanity you grieve for?
Listen, I don’t support Trump and I do support social tolerance. I was deeply disturbed and concerned this morning by the election results. However, I would have been only somewhat less disappointed if Hilary was elected. You and many Hilary supporters are truly not hearing what a large portion of America is trying to say: They are tired of being manipulated and lied to by politicians. They think it’s wrong that more and more of their own hard earn money is being taken from them to grow an inefficient government which sometimes endorses ideas they don’t agree with. The tone you used is sanctimonious and over-simplifies issues. I do not like how Democrats are taking away my freedom in different ways.
Amen to all you said!! Thank you
If you believe there’s a record low unemployment rate, you’re fooling yourself. When 100 million people have dropped out of the workforce, you have to count them as unemployed.
There are 94 million people out of work, low unemployment?
well stated. if the liberals cared so deeply about humanity, they should have picked a better candidate. she is well hated by many and encouraged people to vote for trump.
We did and the DNC robbed us of our voices. We got a president we do not align with for this next election, but we also saw our hopes misplaced by Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
I know that many republicans view liberals as a group looking for handouts or something for nothing, and to me this is not the case. We were looking for the removal of money for politics and a good and reasonable path forward for all of our people seeking higher education at an unreasonable cost. I wasn’t looking for more welfare checks; I wanted an America that was just and fair, inclusive, and that gave back some of what it took from us and let us all lean on each other when we need help.
Maybe we will get that America from Trump, but we sure didn’t get that from the democratic commission that was supposed to represent us.
Anybody ever Hear of a principle called ,”separation of church and state”. One of the most profoundly important principles that our country is founded on. No single event has caused the extreme suffering and loss of freedom in the world than the interference of religion in government. But of course those of you who have want to defend your version of the bible only want your religious principles to be respected. I am personally opposed to abortion. But I an vehemently opposed to my government making that decision.
How can you mention the removal of money from politics with a straight face? It was Hillary’s grifting of money from less than savory foreign powers that turned my vote against her
Americans voted for a hateful mind set, not just a candidate.
Unsustainable economics? You are aware that the stock market started plummeting once the mere possibility of a trump presidency became apparent, right? He claims that he will do all these things, these very expensive things, without giving any kind of plan as to how in the world he’s going to pay for them, let a lone the fact that all of our allies, both military and trade can no longer trust us.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/11/09/global-markets-tailspin-trump-victory-declared/93531114/
That what scares me, he has no filter he will say something that will turn allies into enemies of the use our allies will be Russia and their allies. I fear we will go into ww3, 4 and 5. I fear if I actually have kids they might not have much to look fforward to but war.
Bullseye!!!Nuff said!
Quit being so smug and educate yourself before commenting:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-the-stock-market-tends-to-perform-on-and-after-election-day-2016-11-07
your aware the stock market “futures” plummeted not the actual stock market which actually was up over 200 points today.
time to let go of the “hatred” of trump. he will be a better president than clinton and will be more than inclusionary. he guides policy but can’t affect any real change without help. nothing will change for the minorities (but might get better) trump being a racist was a good story line for the Dems but was far from the reality and the truth.
you are aware he was sued for discrimination in house right? If you really believe the President guides policy and needs help to get things done, where were you when Congress blocked everything they could. When they refused to fill vacancy on federal courts and the Supreme Court hoping that their PARTY would benefit, not the country?
Yes, and you realize that by this afternoon the markets were back up. You also realize that the stock
Market has the lowest level of individual investors in 50 years, that the institutional investments are who is driving the stock market up, and at an inflated rate that has no backing other than corporate stocks. There is a reason the common person is not investing in the stock market, yet liberals will not tell the whole story, just point to how high the market is, and leave out the why information.
Well said. I’ve been asking how Trump will do all he’s promised since he was nominated. He has promised alot to the American people but hasn’t offered any plan of attack or any way to fulfill his promises.
Based on what? An assumption? We grieve based on cold hard action based fact
Instead of healing your article is stoking the fires of fear. As a Minister you should be ashamed. Mr Trump is offensive, but you are using hurting people to your own ends.
Like those killed with the ambassador and the people of Haiti that never received the money that the Clinton’s miss directed into their pockets. The election is over, grow up. Burning the flag is not acceptable.
i grieve at the fact that somehow you value money more than a person’s actual life and dignity. …that you, and those like you, have made this to be about the strain on economics, instead of the strain placed on humanity.
You say you think this all about money. Well I want for my children and grandchildren everything you talk about. I want for myself right now the affordable healthcare that was promised. I’ve seen my insurance premium and deductibles go up last year. I just found out my premiums will be going up 83% next year. I can’t continue to afford this affordable income.
My hope and prayer is that we can all work together to achieve what you want and what I want. Eight years of president Obama did not help but hurt me. And no I’m not a wealthy person. I would like to believe I’ve saved enough to live on and my children won’t have to take care of me
Amen
Have fun saying goodbye to your healthcare.
I will gladly say goodbye to Obama Care, I deserve to have my original plan back. Obama said I wouldn’t lose it but I did. Obama said it wasn’t gonna cost me more but it did. I don’t believe either Trump or Clinton can fix this mess we are all in. I do know that my healthcare costs have impacted my family in a bad way. I know the cost is going up again. I need my Dr.’s but I need to eat and have a roof over my head too. As Americans we should be uniting and work hard to find someone that will represent all of us. Obviously won’t happen now but think about that Democrats and Republicans, because in 4 years maybe we can find someone that will. What disasters we’ve created ( Clinton, Trump). Wake up, open your eyes and let’s get to work.
amen
Then you don’t understand the point of this article.
I would have grieved because a woman whose policies as Secretary of State caused killing, maiming, and untold suffering to countless innocents in the Middle East was now the Commander in Chief of of the most powerful military in the world. I would have grieved because a woman who supposedly embraces refugees, has no problem with arming radical Islamists to bring about regime change, thereby causing the refugee problem in the first place. I would grieve because when the bombs begin to fall, women, children, gays and straights of all colors are ripped to pieces. Jesus was and is the Prince of Peace. Hillary Clinton is a war monger and I despise what she had done with my money, in my name.
Meanwhile, the Republicans want to get rid of Social Security and Medicare, two more safety nets for the elderly, Medicaid for the poor, continued carbon emissions. There will be buyers’ remorse when many people need these services and they’re gone.
That’s what you would grieve? Wow. I’m sorry that your concern is about money, not humanity.
Okay, so basically you would’ve grieved some ESOTERIC BULL$HIT. Got it.
Well said thank u for speaking up
Well said.
It will also be nice not to hear the phrase “white make,” used as an epithet, or to hear how we’re all rapists, or that it’s racist when cops shoot an armed criminal.
We won’t have a government that seems hostile to us, that calls higher taxes and less freedom “morality,” or that calls our history one of nothing but evil oppression and injustice, while turning to blind eye to other cultures that themselves oppress women and minorities horribly.
Go ahead and cry your eyes out, social justice warriors. A large portion of America saw through your sanctimony and hypocrisy, your desire for censorship, control, and (real, actual) oppression, and voted against it.
I will gladly say goodbye to Obama Care, I deserve to have my original plan back. Obama said I wouldn’t lose it but I did. Obama said it wasn’t gonna cost me more but it did. I don’t believe either Trump or Clinton can fix this mess we are all in. I do know that my healthcare costs have impacted my family in a bad way. I know the cost is going up again. I need my Dr.’s but I need to eat and have a roof over my head too. As Americans we should be uniting and work hard to find someone that will represent all of us. Obviously won’t happen now but think about that Democrats and Republicans, because in 4 years maybe we can find someone that will. What disasters we’ve created ( Clinton, Trump). Wake up, open your eyes and let’s get to work.
So, so true!!!!!
They would have grieved their loss of power and control.
Especially over women, who they really want to have enslaved like they use to.
Enslaved how? That is such a vague statement.
We would have grieved that the USA had turned into a banana republic, where ten million dollars for Hillary gets counties arms shipments, that more unaffordable insurance would be shoved down our throats, that migrants would continue to flood our shores and sign up for welfare and everything this country gives away.
Let’s face it, Hillary didn’t see this coming and offered nothing to the Rust Belt. The world is changing dramatically. Free trade lets capitalism chase the lowest wages on the planet, which made the rust belt the rust belt. Obamacare is failing miserably. It was and is the Unaffordable care act. Trump said he would turn back the clock and people believed him, without demonstrating any way to accomplish this task. Trump’s power of persuasion, without any evidence that he could do anything he promised, ruled the day. It wasn’t Hate and misogyny, it was too much illegal immigration, jobs chasing the lowest wages, and insurance bills shoved down people’s throats. Our middle class is dying and is gasping for air. Hillary would have left us gasping.
We would have grieved being dragged down the rat hole of open boarders and a free trade North and South America.
The rust belt became the rust belt largely due to automation in the 70’s and 80’s. I am sorry for you that you bough into his many lies but especially the one about bringing manufacturing jobs back.
I dont’ understand. Thousands of people including some from my family and their children will no longer have health insurance if the ACA is taken down.
What is he to do? He and his wife both work full time.. neither employer pays for coverage
ACA is going to double in cost, so much for affordable. It isn’t for most people. Besides, Obama lied. He said If you like your insurance, if you like your doctor you can keep them. lies.
I have a pre-existing condition, the plan I have thanks to ACA is 60% less than what my employer provides. I can now kiss that plan goodbye because I’m un-insurable.
Your plan may be less expensive for you now but that’s because a majority of people that do not have pre-existing conditions either lost their coverage and had to go on a much more expensive and lower quality plan that was offered on the exchange because the small business they worked for could no longer afford to pay and they are paying the higher rates to make up for what you are not paying. And your rate is fixing to go up a lot next year. My insurance through work has even gone up with the ACA. Reimbursements to those that care for you have plummeted. The ACA is wrecking the healthcare industry. They are expecting us to do so much more with way less.
I completely agree with all that you have stated. This blogger talks about how much the Democrats want diversity in our country but then immediately lump every Republican into the same bucket and then refer to us as ALL racists, bullies, women haters, gay haters, etc., etc. How do liberals justify that? When Republicans don’t like guns they don’t buy them. When Democrats don’t like guns they don’t buy them AND they want to take my freedom to buy one away!
It’s what you are, it’s what you voted for.
The only thing worse than a bigot is a spineless bigot who can’t admit that’s exactly what they are.
“The only thing worse than a bigot is a spineless bigot who can’t admit that’s exactly what they are.”
Quoted for truth. Gentle correction and/or understanding is difficult when faced with hatred.
No doubt. & isn’t racism against rascists & hatred towards homophobics, xenaphobics whateveraphobics just as awful as “old school” racism? Where is the love for these people? You’ll stick up for a fellow American that is Not white or is a female or a Muslim but not one that opposes your views? Are you saying that because a person disagrees with homosexuality he or she is beneath you? How is that any different than a white person saying a black person is beneath them just because of the color of his skin?? Well I will stand up for all!! #loveforALLpeoplenomatterwhat
I’m a liberal and I” not for gun control. I’m also not for abortion control or free market health insurance. I also have a pre existing condition and will be without healthcare if the ACA is repealed. I will have to stop being a stay at home Mom to my 1 year old and 4 year old because without the protections offered by the ACA, I am unable to buy comprehensive private insurance at any price. I will have to put my two small children in daycare and spend every cent I make to pay for it just to have the priledge to purchase comprehensive healthcare through my employer.
None of that is true. ….and if you endorse and vote for a racist….well, if the shoe fits.
Fact: we wanted you to have a background check before you bought one. End of story. Do you want a gun in the hands of someone who has a history of violence caused by mental illness? Talk about getting facts straight. You hear what you want in order to make inflammatory remarks.
It’s Donald Trump,Republicans and other establishment elites that have killed the rust belt and the middle class
And now we double down on it
Exactly and I totally believe in a diverse America, but a LEGAL diverse America. We welcome those who will contribute to our society, not drain it or cause more criminal activity. Trump said “rapists, criminals and drug dealers”, not Hispanics, Muslims, add anyone here, but it gets twisted into something different as it is viewed out of context. I would help refugees without hesitation as long as we know exactly who they are and their intentions. Not because I hate Muslims, but because I have seen videos of what radical Islamic terrorist do to humans and we are at war and must protect our homeland, by any means necessary. I also believe what happens in forums such as this, we only get to know each other by differing views, not REALLY spend time and know more than what we can write in limited dimensions. I wholeheartedly believe there are women who are who are actually way more qualified to be president than Clinton or Trump, it just hasn’t materialized yet. I was excited when Perot was going to run, an outsider, who like Trump tells it like it is, which is unpopular. In our daily actions what are we going to do as citizens to pull America back up? Affordable health care, I am a RN, is a great idea, but it hasn’t worked financially as it was implemented, just because it needs to be redone doesn’t mean those qualified to figure a real solution are against health care, it has to be financially feasible, period.
RNdude, Your comment has made the most sense of all that I have read here tonight. Facts without bitterness or fear. I think when it comes down to it we all love our country and want the best lives for our families and friends. I hope that we all can put aside our differences and come together for the greater good.
We would have grieved the end to our religious freedom, freedom of speech, and right to defend ourselves. We would have mourned mandatory vaccinations, taxes used to push abortion in our country and spread to other countries and Hillary’s great vision of one world order
And, you are incredibly stupid
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Said like a true democrat. THIS is exactly why Trump won. THIS article was about grieving over humanity. Those that voted for Trump are humans & fellow Americans. You can’t love THEM & their ideas but expect them to love & believe in everything you do. Where is your embracing of THIS type of diversity? Or do you believe only people of a different gender, race, religious belief, etc BUT think like you are diverse enough to be embraced? I think Hillary gave it to Trump when she called half of America “deplorables”. Well, those “deplorable” people have diverse ideas, thoughts & dreams just like you. They are just different from yours. They want to also be heard & they have spoken. They are humanity. They are fellow Americans. Will you embrace them with the love & kindness you say you are grieving for? Or is this not the kind of diverse people worth your tears? #democratichypocrisyatitsfinest
Couldn’t agree more. And Pavlovitz article is self-indulgent guff: he and his followers need to stop “grieving” and virtue signalling to all their on-line buddies and instead question why the Democrats fielded such a vile candidate – someone who claims to stand for women’s rights but who has abused any woman who has had the misfortune to get in her way, who has presided over a lamentable foreign policy – ask the Libyans and Syrians – and who is up to her neck in duplicitous double dealing. No wonder Trump won. Stop grieving and grow up!
Very well said!
Angela K, everything you say you would grieve is so absurd, it is absolutely ridiculous. You have beliefs of the parties completely reversed. No one anywhere has any reason or intent to push abortions, and democrats are the ones wanting heath care, including birth control which is the only way to prevent abortions. Republicans would rather a woman die from an unsafe abortion, you will say no, but that follows the Republican agenda more that the crap you are spewing out.
Agree
The fact that George Soros wants the US to go down and he put millions into Clinton’s campaign. Did anyone watch Obama’ exit speech to the UN? We have to stay on course….they want to take away what America stands for. Britain exited the European market for a reason. This president will be nominating supreme Court judges!!!! I did not vote for Trump personally…i voted for what the Republican party stood for.
I think I would have grieved for the security of our country. Hillary has unfortunately proven she is incapable of doing so. That’s my biggest relief. Having served for 11 years and spending about 5 years of my life deployed to the Middle East. That’s a big priority in my book. Benghazi was a disaster, Iraq with the withdrawal of troops and the rise of ISIS that filled the vacuum once we pulled out was a disaster. And most importantly, in my book, the limitation of constitutional rights were at stake. Some of Hillary’s ideas on limitations to freedom of speech, the media, and the right to bear arms was very very scary in my opinion. Also, and please, I’m not trying to pick a fight just trying to lay out truth and my point of view, the secured and classified information that she mishandled was extremely horrific. I used to investigate such violations once upon a time. And have seen people go to jail for far less. And for Hillary to be able to run for president after those huge security violations is vey hypocritical seeing as there are people in jail right now for committing similar acts only on a far smaller scale. Heck she violated Title 18 of the US Code thousands of time and anyone else would have been tried for treason with that amount of violations. So I think the American people have spoken. They want change and no more lies.
So you support the man who says he loves war and loves nukes? I support my troops, but I don’t support a warmonger, or a man who has no self control . I don’t support a man who could have a temper tantrum and cause World War III.
Sounds like Fox news sound bite.
I completely agree with you. You serving your company in the military have done more for our country than Obama has done in his 8 years as president or the 30 years that Hillary years said she has done as a civil servant and you did it for all the right reasons and at a the least amount of pay than any politicians. You put your life on the line for us and I bet not one time did you sit in the corner and cry or brag about what you were doing and complain that you should have be treated better because of your position. You didn’t have paid guards protecting you but you knew you had your brothers back there for you. My husband, like you served 12 years in the military and had 3 tours in Vietnam and he had the same top secret clearance that the president has and until this day would not divulge the information that was entrusted to him even at the age of 76, and not even to me his wife of 50 years. I salute you and want you to know that in my eyes that you stand on a higher pedestal than Obama or Clinton wouldn’t even be allow to touch. Thank you for your service. You are a real man or woman which ever applies to you.
Do you want an honest answer? Or are you just curious and looking for a mindset that you can shoot down? The “other” side would have grieved for the unborn. Hillary Clinton Won Planned Parenthood’s Margaret Sanger Award, and wants to Continue Her Policies on abortion. Abortion. Supposedly made “legal” so that they would be rare and safe, and occur nearly 1 million times a year in the US. So much for rare, and for the unborn, never safe. Racist Margaret Sanger is Planned Parenthood’s founder. PP is carrying on her legacy, and if you dare to even follow up on this, please find and read: Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922.
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“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” If we don’t value the life of the most vulnerable among us, if they are not safe in their mothers womb, the rest of us a re not going to be values, nor safe, it is only a matter of time. And that is only the first thing Trump supporters would grieve. How many more reasons do you need?
I would have grieved the loss of countless children. Partial birth abortion turns my stomach and it should anyone else’s as well. The thought of a completely formed baby with as many nerves and emotions and you and I, being partially brought into the world and slaughtered is something I couldn’t get past. I would grieve a care system that gets to choose if my elderly parents are worth saving should they have health issues. I would grieve even more of my tax dollars supporting programs I don’t agree with while the soldiers who fought for my freedom don’t get the support they need and deserve. And I would grieve that a person without character or morals made it to the highest office in our country. That we are so divided that we would applaud a person that has broken laws, lied and schemes and USED the minorities she claims to support to further her own agenda. Look at how her political leanings have changed through the years. She doesn’t care about her constituents…she cares about winning at any cost. I would grieve that America allowed itself to be tricked
Would we have been safe with a Hillary presidency? Would we have stayed out of unnecessary wars with Hillary? Would our jobs be safe with Hillary’s private position on TPP? Would her position on fracking change or would we continue to destroy our environment? Would Hillary continue to lie and cheat using her Clinton Foundation to launder money from foreign interests to buy weapons?
Would you truly be safe with her or would she have sold us out?
Fracking also supports jobs
First, I would want you to know that I can feel the pain expressed here – it is real. Loss is loss and pain is pain, no matter the source, and I hope you will find strength to move through each stage of grief, and in time, find the ‘other joys’ that pain can bring. I want you to know that even though I voted for Trump, I am grieving over what this election process has revealed is no longer valued in a country I love. Honest hearts. Truthful speech. Kind speech. Integrity. Trust in public officials. Justice. Rational thought. Common sense.
If Ms. Clinton was President, I would deeply grieve over people as well, the smallest most fragile people whose lives are taken from them before they have a chance to breathe earth’s air. 60 million of them and counting … And for the loss of the common sense that sees this child sacrifice on the ‘altar of convenience’ as ‘progressive’ and labels those who seek to address the root issues of crisis pregnancies rather than deal with ‘symptoms’ as ‘backward’.
I grieve the loss of the beauty of purity and a healthy innocence that honors the gift of marriage as given by the Creator of marriage. In assuming we have the right to make it into what we think it should be, we have forfeited the pleasure & protection God intended for it to provide and are destroying the very fabric of our society. It makes me weep to see such pain and brokenness in homes!
I grieve the loss of the basic freedoms granted in our Constitution which has been defended with the blood of millions of patriots. I have the right to free speech – to teach my children and grandchildren and share respectfully in the public arena my heartfelt conviction that marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman, and that sex outside of that marriage relationship is not good, without being labeled a ‘hater’ and without the fear of being sued for ‘hate speech’. If I own a florist or bakery or event venue, I should be able to run my business without being forced to violate my conscience. I don’t hate anyone who thinks differently, but I have a right to disagree and act according to my beliefs. When that right is challenged, I tend to become defensive, and I really don’t like living that way. Tolerance & respect is a 2-way street, not the billy club it’s become. It seems to me it’s being used in the same way Mr. Pavlovitz decries … to threaten & silence.
I grieve the loss of safety and security in my country. I love internationals – I have hosted many in my home for short & long-term stays, including Muslims, and have friends I love around the world. My heart cries for the refugees – I give money to organizations who are on the ground helping them. But opening our borders to anyone and everyone and refusing to call Muslim terrorism what it is for fear of ‘offending’ is irresponsible and benefits no one except those who would do us harm. Guarding our borders by respecting established legal processes for entry while opening our hearts and helping these countries solve their problems so their people can live there in peace will be messy, but is 1 of the primary functions of government. In my Bible, no ‘institution’ is ever commanded to care for the poor and hurting … individual people are. There are many good organizations doing that and people should be encouraged to get involved. Giving freely has far more benefits than be ‘taken from’ by big govt. taxes.
Finally, I grieve the loss of integrity in my world. I find it very unstable to live in a world with no ‘True North’, no compass, no ‘I-beam’ that holds a complex structure together. Absolute truth is that I-beam, that compass … when a person’s ‘yes is yes’ or ‘no is no’, when what’s right for me is right for you, when I give the same answer today as I do tomorrow, when there is right and wrong, when I submit to authority even if I’m guilty instead of blaming someone else for my choices … that is a stable foundation on which to live. Without that, it’s a ‘dog-eat-dog’, ‘every man for himself’ kind of world. I grieve the loss of a culture that valued truth over ‘convenient truth’, service to others over self, and self-control over pleasure and self-indulgence. May we all find our way forward to that kind of wonderful life.
I wish you put an article like that out there for all to read. 🙂
We would grieve that refugees take priority over American service people, or America’s safety. We would grieve that America felt it ok to endorse and embrace a woman who is a liar to her own government and people, just to cover her own butt, a woman who only cares for those who “give” to her, and a woman who has put our nation’s safety at risk. Just a few reasons!
Grieves the death of thousands of near birth babies
That’s why she lost
That fact alone gives trumps all the items listed in this article
I would’ve felt that rampant corruption was greenlighted to be acceptable in gov’t. That the people didn’t care enough about our future to send a message that corruption on our backs is unacceptable and won’t be tolerated.
I’m a democrat but could not accept this candidate. Mad as hell at the DNC for stopping the viable candidate and giving us a scandal candidate. I didn’t vote for Trump nor Clinton.
I would have grieved that our boarders would be wide open, and our newly elected leader would continue the importation of refugee’s who have no desire to become American, and who are anti-American to be planted in our cities and towns to use our resources and terrorize our citizens. Take a look at Germany and most of europe who had the same left wing ideals. They are regretting it now. Learn from other’s mistakes.
Okay, I’ll answer. I’ve been greiving for the past eight years. I’m greIving the therapy my autistic son quit getting once Obamacare decided our FSA wouldn’t pay for it anymore. I’m greiving the three great jobs in the healthcare industry my husband lost over the past 6 years. I’m greiving our home that was foreclosed on a year ago yesterday. I’m greiving not having health insurance for the first time in my life because it was 1900$ per month with a 7K deductible. Wanting change doesn’t have anything to do with being racist or homophobic for most of us. It has to do with feeling like you’ve lost everything you’ve worked hard for. I’m
An army mom. I worry that my daughter will get killed in the line of duty and when I want to know why, someone will screech “What difference does it make ?” At me. I am sorry for your pain, I try to love everyone in my path, and teach my kids the same….but I’m just really really tired. And so are a lot of people I know. But that’s my honest answer, if you really want to understand me.
How out the loss of self protection through 2nd amendment rights? How about he loss of protection for children which she suppored being aborted up to 36 weeks? How about the loss of justice, when she committed a felony with those emails? The loss of the middle class, which would be crushed under her tax plan? The loss of many small businesses that would also be crushed? The hit to capitalism that started with Obama and would be finished with her? MAYBE people are saying they’re sick and tired of politicians and something has to change.
How out the loss of self protection through 2nd amendment rights? How about he loss of protection for children which she suppored being aborted up to 36 weeks? How about the loss of justice, when she committed a felony with those emails? The loss of the middle class, which would be crushed under her tax plan? The loss of many small businesses that would also be crushed? The hit to capitalism that started with Obama and would be finished with her? MAYBE people are saying they’re sick and tired of politicians and something has to change.
I don’t believe that was said or implied
And your too ignorant to understand the point
You misspelled “you’re”
-ignorant deplorable
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Wow! Way to miss the point entirely!
You SO missed the point. But typical.
Why is it that if you are a conservative. You are WRONG about everything. Just because you are conservative????
Look, liberals need to learn from this. My brown parents legally immigrated here and I have watched Ca Ers and schools go downhill because of illegal immigration. I like HRC, I really do but when you guys tell me one set of people can disobey laws and I can’t because my family works hard and makes money, I think Dems don’t believe in equality and that you coddle minorities (example: Blacks can’t be expected to get an ID to vote!They cost 10$)
Dems like Joe Biden said racist things about Asians and none you cared so why should I care about your feelings now? You’re hypersensitive and most likely too lazy to pay your fair share. So I’ll pay for you with my 6 figure tax bill but I won’t let you waste it on people just because they are non White like me.
No, I know they would, and I would feel badly for them.
No, they would not grieve. There would be riots in the streets. Vandalism. Death threats to specific demographics. Threats to sue. Accusations that it was rigged. This we all know. To pretend otherwise is ludicrous.
Check out Oakland. They must be grieving too
And what do you think is being reported to be happening right now. Riots burning the flag, turn on the news..
No one should be burning the flag..
And what do you think is being reported to be happening right now. Riots burning the flag, turn on the news..
I agree that if she would have won, we would be living with riots and much fear of what that side would do in proclaiming the “rigged” system. I feel that we who are disappointed are just sad, very sad and disappointed, but not rioting and protesting.
I didn’t even vote for Trump but by being anti-Hilary, I’ve received threats already. People are calling for the death of Trump. They are burning effigies of him. Conservatives are not the deplorables by today’s actions.
Ya because “white blue collar” folks are the ones that have been rioting in the streets and burning down our own neighborhoods. It was a very close race. I would have never thought it was “rigged” had Trump lost last night. Had it been a Clinton landslide, maybe. But not being a close race that could have gone either way.
Yeah cuz THAT’S what happened after the last two elections!
The Conservatives have never rioted in my life time. I have seen the progressive left liberals riot on many occasions. They riot any time they do not get their way. Look at Oakland as an example. Enough said!
The “other side” gave up compromise politics 30 years ago and “weaponized religion” and extremis in all positions as final stands. Their grief would have affected their personal ideologies alone. The grief we now fear is The consequential waves rolling across myriad minority groups whom in this election comprised a majority of all votes cast. Again. By those who serve a singular vision that cares not a wit for the grand diversity, of ideas, colors, classes and creeds that don’t walk the same path up the mountain. The great ‘other’ was played to fear masterly in this election more than any since 1933. Of the few book passages that Mr Trump can recall he can quote Guerring’s musings on propaganda quicker than any scripture. We are now in the reality (show) we’ve scripted. Unity will come from the crystallization of groups who will not silently see progress rolled back. History is on our side in the greater time scale. You are about to have your moment. Few checks are now balanced against the trough eaters and the golden idol you’ve elected. Use it well. Appeal to your highest selves and better Angels to guide you in the near term. Harken not to be singed by the alchemy you’ve unleashed for whatever personal path up the mountain you’ve chosen. Give us the grace to walk ours. Lest you do not the system, the Universe, All that is will not long let you reign. When you cling to the rocks in the river in which you’ve been thrown and thrown us, you will torn. Go with a better flow in the middle or please kindly bugger off.
The table was turned 8 years ago and that was hard and some of us grieved also because of the massive changes that were coming and came.
I’m genuinely curious about what those massive changes were that you’re referencing. I seek to understand your position only because I didn’t experience any changes that negatively affected me personally over the past 8 years. If you were negatively affected, I am willing to listen and try to understand your point of view.
My family is lower middle class in a very wealthy, liberal city. We are single income, both college educated. Our health insurance costs 3 times as much as it before the aca and provides much less coverage. Coverage we have lost includes coverage row frames for glasses or contacts, chiropractic care – which we use as preventive care as it keeps our immune systems functioning well, and mental health coverage. Under very liberal local policies, our property taxes have increased hundreds of dollars but the value of our home has not increased much. We cannot afford to live in the condo we afforded well before obama anymore because of increased property taxes, increased local taxes and cost of living in this wealthy area. Because the minimum wage continues to go up, my husband’s job is increasingly worth less, and opportunities for growth in his company are slow to come up because they have to accommodate the new requirements for people in the minimum wage jobs (not families). Those are a few ways we anticipated struggling under a liberal government that have come to fruition. I am no Trump fan, I didn’t vote for him and I don’t see him as a conservative. But that is why I see the last 8 years as not an improvement.
I was negatively affected by having an insurance forced on me and if I could not afford it, I was charged a penalty. Also, this Country is more divided than it has been since the early 70’s. Racial tension is higher than I have seen in my 60 years and that, I blame Obama.
First, you still don’t understand that the ACA did not and does not set prices. That is the Insurance Companies and they have hoards of legal minds who do nothing but find ways around regulations. You also don’t realize that the rates could very well have, and probably would have, risen much more quickly without the ACA. I know mine was going up at least 5% a year every year before the ACA. Also, sorry you can’t afford health insurance. I guess you were probably happier when you could go to the emergency room and let everyone else pay for you…but of course, you aren’t one of “those people” who want free stuff. I hope you are saving up because Trump, Ryan. Pence, and the rest of the GOP want to end Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, and all other forms of “entitlements”. “Entitlements” that I for one have been paying into for more than 40 years. Gone, zip, no more. You have such short-sighted viewss that you vote against your own self-interest. When they make the retirement age 70, and remove your Social Security, are you going to step up and admit you were duped? No, because you are incapable of seeing cause and effect. Like the prejudice…you blame President Obama for causing it. He didn’t cause it, he was only the catalyst for the lurking demon within this country. Blame the victim, it feels so good. He was hated because of the color of his skin and you all blame him for being that color. He didn’t do anything (name ONE thing) to help black people at the expense of white people. You just can’t face your own bigotry, so you place the blame on him.
I love this country, and I will call President Trump our President. I won’t denigrate him or attack him or behave as you all have for the last 8 years. BUT, I will demand that you all face the results of your decisions and if things turn out as bad as we liberals and progressives fear, I will hold you responsible.
He’s not saying the other side wouldn’t grieve. The essay spelled out WHY we are grieving, and it’s not a pretty picture.
You calling someone else ignorant for voicing their opinion is part of the problem this article is getting at. It’s nothing but nonstop attacks from everywhere.
Of course they would, but that’s not relevant.
Elroy, do you even understand the ramifications of electing a bigot and racist? All of the American people should be sad and fearful!!!
The nature of your reply tells me otherwise…..more of the same anger
And why would they grieve? Not to be rude or sarcastic, just asking.
I wouldn’t have missed the looming war with Russia, the continuation of a horrific foreign affairs policy that involves trying to usurp nation after nation. No amount of Saudi money is worth it.
Amen! The “other” side has been grieving for the past 8 years while watching the largest racial divide in our lifetime, get wider.
your response proves this article’s concerns are real!
Elroy,
It’s evident to me that John didn’t say anything like that. I read his piece as speaking to the loss of a hopeful country where inclusion is the coin of the realm. If that’s the America that you thought that Trump was advancing, and that Clinton was thwarting, then you’d have been correct to grieve had he lost. But you would then have been living in an alternate universe by anyone’s measure. The fact is that I disagree with John on an important point: not only do we, as a people, share the freedom to outright reject what Trump and his supporters embrace, but every four years we have the power to resurrect our hope for an inclusive country at the ballot box. Trump’s election is not a reason to grieve; it’s a reason to unite and make right what went wrong. Inclusiveness starts at home, and we have many brothers and sisters in white, rural America who need civics lessons. Let’s get on it.
Of course the other side would grieve. But not because of the reasons listed here.
And you still don’t. GET. IT!
Your grief would reflect that you COULDN’T be exclusive… COULDN’T grab ’em by the p*ssy (or at least laugh it off)… COULDN’T scream that Muslims (no matter how long they’re here) needed to be kicked out of the country… no comparison whatsoever.
Perhaps the other side would be grieving. However, their grief would be over the loss of a nation standing for divisiveness, bigotry, hatred, intolerance and exclusivity. Our grief today comes from knowing the loss of love, kindness, empathy, tolerance, acceptance…..and no one, not any person ever, can convince me that these separate ideals should be given equal credence.
Exactly Elroy 🙂
Wow, this article went right over your head.
To Elroy if the other side lost and were grieving they would be grieving for the opposite of what is good, kind and loving.
We can twist this all around for our own benefit. Every time we have an election, someone is elected and someone is not. Every election the supporters of the candidate that wins is happy. The supporters of the candidate that does not win is not happy. Someone is going to win and someone is not. It can’t be both ways . And…every year we all move forward.
Trump won. Look for common ground, got to be something you agree with him on and go from there. If you don’t agree with him on anything, then maybe you should follow Miliey Cyrus and move somewhere else for a while. If you can’t do that, deal with it. Elections have consequences and Trump won.
“…Grief always laments what might have been, the future we were robbed of, the tomorrow that we won’t get to see, and that is what we walk through today. As a nation we had an opportunity to affirm the beauty of our diversity this day, to choose ideas over sound bytes, to let everyone know they had a place at the table, to be the beacon of goodness and decency we imagine that we are—and we said no,” when we picked Hillary Clinton, the corporatist with no chance to beat a populist Trump, to run as the Dem nominee, rather than Bernie Sanders, the populist who stood for ALL OF IT.
Me too.
You assume. Just grieve for yourself.
“I grieve because so many Americans apparently don’t.” Exactly. 🙁
What an idiot!
The Americans who you think do not love this country have been feeling exactly the same way you do for the last eight years. They are the Americans who helped put Obama in office, buying into his hope and change mantra. They are the Americans who have lost their jobs, their homes, their medical insurance, their life savings, their dignity and self respect, and almost all hope, while trying to endure a president who has dessimated our military, opened our borders to illegal immigrants, forced a failed and expensive healthcare program down their throats, allowed our infrastructure to deteriorate, ignored our friends, appeased our enemies, squandered our tax dollars, divided the people as to black against white, rich against poor, young against old, men against women, Christian against non-Christian, and so much more, all while taking expensive vacation after expensive vacation and round after round of golf. Our national debt has more than doubled in the last eight years while unemployment has soared, robbing citizens of their very dignity. The Americans you scorn have suffered dearly under this president and his unlawful minions. There is no way that you can convince the people who elected Donald Trump that he would not be better than Hillary Clinton at turning this country around, rebuilding our inner cities, defending our borders against unknown illegals, creating the conditions necessary for job creation, lowering taxes, rebuilding our military defenses, and restoring our credibility and standing in the world. You are in place that the other half has been in for eight long years. So maybe you should give our new president the chance he deserves to right the ship. If he fails, and I hope it’s not too late, then you’ll have your chance to replace him in four years. In the meantime, act like a true American, get over your “loss”, and come together for the sake of our country.
Oh, I so agree. It is a fearful, sad time.
I saw it. 🙂 I was equally sad four years ago… mad, actually. Wrote a post just like this, but switch the parties. We will be fine. Media hype is just that. Trump will do just fine, and we are all going to be okay. Hang in there.
My sentiments exactly.
It’s not about Trump “doing ok.” It’s about the fact that almost 50% of our nation believes hate, racism, sexism, and discrimination are OK. Read the article.
I’ve read the article. I don’t accept his BS. That’s HIS view of America, or his “stated” view so that he can gain views and clicks.
Joe Catholic…that’s what a blog is, a personal view. That was his point. His view is different than yours.
No, it is about you believing the propaganda that Trump is racist, etc. The electorate did not accept a racist Trump. They rejected the media characterization that Trump was racist. They rejected the straw man argument that you have embraced. You bought the media lie.
Did you listen to what he said? Obviously racist. Why do you think the KKK and other bigots supported him?
It’s not a media lie if he is on record saying those things – there’s video of him actually saying those things over and over again. Disheartening is an understatement.
I didn’t need the media to tell me Trump was racist, sexist, unstable and unqualified. His own words and actions proved that to me loud and clear.
Well said. Trump hasn’t said anything that both “d’s” and “r’s” weren’t saying ten years ago. The D party has done more to divide this country than anyone. Nobody is looking to deport muslims and blacks and hispanics. Trump never said any of that – a five minute google search would prove it, but you would have to actually listen to what he said instead of relying on rachel maddow and bryan williams to tell you. Trump talked of deporting illegal aliens. Even that won’t happen enmasse. Nobody is looking to turn this country in to a white only country either. You don’t seem to notice it was the white people in this country who opened the doors to the rest of the world. They should not be repaid with false accusations of racism.
no, that’s what you believe
How do they read that article and say “he will do fine” . I don’t think they get what is going on here, but they will. We all will.
Ugh.
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Not so. I’m not racist or sexist. I want a job that was ripped from my family and given to cheap overseas labor. I’m a Mom who wants a future for her children that doesn’t include paralyzing their lives with national debt and unaffordable education. Frankly, It’s repulsive that the author chose to assume that my vote sticks me in a box of isms (Clinton called me deplorable) but it is not remotely true. I’m socially liberal but fiscally responsible. Clinton doesn’t represent that. We are not the evil beasts you think we are.
Well said Lisa
If your job was “ripped from [your] family and given to cheap overseas labor,” what have you done to obtain new skills and find a new job that isn’t being done by machines or cheap overseas labor? The machines and cheap labor aren’t going away, they are here to stay as long as Americans want inexpensive goods.
This argument always surprises me. The Donald is one of those very businessman who makes use of (to his financial benefit) cheap overseas labor.
I’m not diminishing your situation, but the fact is that change happens. You either find ways of adapting and moving with those changes, or you fall behind by trying to keep things how they’ve always been. That is what any good businessman would tell you. I’m sure even Donald would tell you this, but it’s much more convenient to him to keep people reliant on his promises.
You have the power to change your situation. I have family members who have worked very hard to pull themselves out of poverty. It takes time, effort, a willingness to learn and change, and make choices that take you where you want to go. It’s not easy, but it’s possible. You can’t rely on any elected official to do those things for you. Certainly not one who alienates and bullies those he considers “others.” One day you might end up on his “others” list. What then?
You are exactly the evil beasts we think you are. Your Trump vote proved that
Bill Clinton balanced the budget during his presidency and Trump bankrupted his company.
So, you vote for the very people that put in the policies that sent the jobs overseas, borrowed and spent us into debt, and made education cost more by cutting the federal funding for education, the Republican party? I’m amazed.
amen…
Wait, your job was ripped out from under you to cheap overseas labor, so you voted for a man who sends thousands of jobs overseas for cheap labor? I really don’t think you researched your position here very well…
Where do you get this FACT?
I hoped things would mainly be OK after GWB was selected. Turned out to be a massive disaster. Trump seems to have far less sense of how to actually behave like a responsible human being, much less govern a country, than GWB. Surely you can see why we’re worried.
I am a Trump supporter and I read the whole thing. I understand your pain. I’ve felt it with my whole heart. I would just say when you get through the grieving process, try to keep an open mind and an open eye to what is really happening, both what you think is happening. Peace.
When David Duke is happy and taking credit for “his people” getting trump elected the fear is very real! I couldn’t tell you if Trump is racist or not he just never said the KKK is bad and that, that not saying yes or no is the scary part because without denouncing them he is allowing and empowering them, their hate, their evilness…
Trump can’t help if those AMERICANS support him. No more than Hillary can help who’s giving money to her foundation. But we do know this Hillary praised him and looked up to Robert Byrd, former leader of the KKK.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/25/hillary-clinton-friend-mentor-robert-byrd-kkk/
The hypocrisy of the Democrats never ceases to amaze me.
Robert Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s and helped establish the hate group’s chapter in Sophia, West Virginia. However, in 1952 Byrd avowed that “After about a year, I became disinterested [in the KKK], quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization,” and throughout his long political career (he served for 57 years in the United States Congress) he repeatedly apologized for his involvement with the KKK:
“I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times … and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”
In 2010, even the NAACP released a statement honoring Senator Byrd and mourning his passing:
The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from [West Virginia] in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92.
“Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation,” stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. “Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.
“Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation,” stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy. “Senator Byrd was a master of the Senate Rules, and helped strategize passage of legislation that helped millions of Americans. He will be sorely missed.”
Beyond David Duke are the even scarier ones who WILL be running the White House. The likes of Bannon et al, Guilliani, Christie and the KOCH BROTHERS! Hard to distinguish the puppets from the puppeteers
Perhaps you are wrong, perhaps the change will be positive. I think we need a little more positive rhetoric now and more talk of unity and working together and less sounding like the end of the world is upon us. It’s not. This too shall pass.
Couldn’t have responded better, Marybeth. John, Thank you!
where have you been for the last 8 yrs.?
you did nothing to help stop this mess we are in. and now your encouraging more hatred . shame on you. and your a man of cloth. muslim cloth.
Trump supporters also saw the cause. This nation was built on certain beliefs. We have watched those beliefs torn apart bit by bit. Always having to roll over because someone now has a NEW way they want America to be. If i don’t like something I find another, I do not expect people to change for me! America is Sick and Tired of changing for everyone!!
It’s called making progress. One of those beliefs this nation was founded on was slavery.
One of those beliefs was that owning slaves was a righteous act.
Another belief: that systemic genocide of indigenous people was justified by manifest destiny.
Another was that married women could not bring charges of rape against their husbands.
Or own property.
Or divorce an abusive spouse.
Or vote.
Some of those certain beliefs of which you speak were horrible. We have moved past some of them and not others. My grief is that some of those beliefs were reinforced yesterday.
Part of our national identity is that we promote social progress to make the world better for every one. There is a historical precedent as most people would consider the above list atrocious. Yesterday felt like a step back.
Not accepting people or recognizing their struggles or need for grief IS expecting them to change for you. Let’s be tolerant together.
If Hillary Was So Honest & Worried About Everyone Donald Trump Alienated , Just One Thought —- How about The Four Helpless Americans In Bengzai That Died Because Of Her & Obama —–
How do you know the change will be bad? Do you have a crystal ball? After what Obama has done to this country, the change will be great! I think he is going to do great with the people he will get for advice!
Greive over trump winning is not what to do if you disagree with the outcome nor what to expect. To anticipate such horrible things is a prognostication that has no foundation or facts. I am not a trump supporter but I know our country is strong and it will continue to lead. The U.K. Departure occurred and our cousins will be right by our side as always. We will be fine, the US will not be vulnerable, anarchy will not happen as some of these frightened people have predicted. Understand that humans literally see the world in a completely opposite perspective. Both sides cannot understand why the other believes what they “see”. It’s not right or wrong, it’s just a different vision. ..nobody is to blame so, to preach hate and use constant character attacks, does nothing positive nor does it provide any foundation or facts about policy issues. Most just spew hate which is just an ugly and negative schoolyard bashing and name calling:/
Obama did nothing to bring this country together. The hatred and divisiveness has increased during Obama’s two terms in office. This country is already divided in grief and despair and has been for quite some time.
Clinton supporters don’t see this. All they see is “wow, a woman president!” Woohoo, let’s vote for the woman.
Hillary would have continue down the same hatred strew path as Obama. Do I care about my country? Absolutely! But all this doom and gloom, woe is me, look who won, the sky is falling attitude doesn’t accomplish a thing
I personally did not support any of the candidates. Not a one of them was worthy of my vote.
Instead of wallowing in despair, I plan to make the most of the Trump presidency and give him the benefit of the doubt.
As a college educated woman, I saw this post. Lets just say that this is a nation truly divided. And that is incredibly sad. I am glad, however that the “establishment ” lost. They sky isn’t falling; it’s opening. Just dig in, roll up your sleeves and get to work alongside your fellow Americans. Stop perpetuating the divisiveness.
Why do you supporters of Hillary Clinton look past her deceitful and lying ways? I just don’t understand it!
Mary Beth, I voted Trump because I am sick and tired of being lied to by our democratic government. I believe in the Holy Bible, that my dear hasn’t lied to us.
The sitting president is the one who started the division as soon as he stepped into office. This article is pure garbage just as the last 8 years have been cause Obama HAD NO EXPERIENCE and was elected solely on his skin color..and the Democrats and liberals though they had this election in the bag because of gender. Face it, WE THE PEOPLE, WHITE, BLACK , SPANISH, ORIENTAL, GAY HAVE SPOKEN. ACCEPT IT AND GET OVER IT.
This article is BIASED left wing. Lunacy… I voted TRUMP. I am part Native American. My son is married to a
New who came here legally from Thailand and is employed as a chef. Two of my great grands are part black… Not afroamerican, American. I attend church where people of all colors and culture worship together and love each other, democrats and Republicans.. None of us have horns… We do NOT KILL BABIES AND SELL THE PIECES FOR PROFIT, And we want it stopped being paid for with our taxes. Be what ever sexual preference. You choose, just stop talking about it in my face… Keep it in your bedroom. Assuming we are your enemy, BIGOTED racists is your problem. And you are naturally disappointed and as grieved as we were the last 8 years of imperial rule spending our hard earned money for people who wouldn’t, not ouldnt work while disrespecting our veterans… Oh, why waste my words on deaf ears, Obama didn’t listen when my daughter who is the single mom of an Autistic child had to double her cost for less coverage, Hillary didn’t care when people died on her watch and she lied to their loved ones and neither will you get it. I have been to 45 nations… Many war torn, many socialist to see up close how it fails. We have had enough of bashing our Christian beliefs and taking away OUR rights. Silent and patient… We arose in a movement to refuse the political dynasty who put their blinders on to ISIS torture rape and murder.. ENOUGH! It’s OVER. We WON!
One friend stated she’s appalled at “What we’ve become as a nation” – well we’ve become that appellation over the past 8 yrs with all the divisiveness fomented by the current administration. A DEEP DEEP division that we all need to work to heal. And the people have spoken. We are tired of it too.
A new day – everyday
Treasure life? She was pro abortion
Kudos, John Pavlovitz – beautifully written! To Marybeth’s point “Clinton voters understood a deeper cause, many didn’t like her but saw the cause,” I would say that not nearly enough saw the cause. I personally think her defeat was a direct result of the fact that her campaign strayed way too far from this deeper cause. I sincerely hope that all those who are grieving will channel that into a continued effort to effect change rather than fading into the background again once it has passed.
Gloom and doom. 👎🏽
What makes you right, and others wrong? You have an opinion. That is all. You cannot prove your point of view, any more than a Trump supporter can prove theirs. THIS IS WHATS WRONG WITH AMERICA! It’s not the left, it’s not the right. It’s that BOTH believe they are, beyond the shadow of a doubt, RIGHT. And guess what? Neither of you are wrong, and neither of you are right. The truth ALWAYS lies somewhere in between. I’m sick and tired of hearing one side or the other say they are full of rightiousness, when all they are really full of is themselves. And I’m appalled a clergy member wrote this article. The very words he writes prove he is not practicing his faith, because if he was, he would be preaching tolerance. And how funny that the left seem to have the least amount of it. So go ahead, cast your stones and feel grateful that you are perfect and without sin.
This is upsetting and grossly incorrect and inaccurate. How can anybody be so willfully obtuse and hateful – to ASSUME your fellow Americans and even FRIENDS are just horrible bigots who hate????? WHY after growing up with us, working with us, living near us, seeing us live decent lives, helping others, caring…why would you just buy into this??? I did not vote against Hillary because I want an all white, Christian country. I voted against her taking payouts from Monsanto so that the agenda to only offer subsidies to farmers that used their bs gmo seeds could be enforced. I voted against Obama signing the DARK act, to not label our foods so we can have our right to know taken away – when Russia and 28 other countries won’t allow that level of deception to happen to their citizens. I voted against Obamacare getting shoved down our throats while the entitled wealthy people in congress get better healthcare for themselves, for life, on the taxpayers dime, all the while telling us our social security may not be there. I voted against allowing potential threats to our national security and the safety of American citizens to just blaze on in to our country, while Trey Gowdy and other patriots have explained – very clearly – WHY our government has NO way of knowing of those people are potential terrorist threats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szSE9XyBpYU That’s just a few things – but what really is happening is that WE are grieving – because the Hillary supporters that we thought were friends are so willing to believe the absolute worst about us and write us off – as if it’s really logical and feasible that 1/2 of the country is the problem. All the while, we’re saving you from some pretty big problems. Maybe Trump can’t fix them – but Hillary and Obama have been perpetrating them all along – so we KNOW 4 more years of this abuse was NOT the answer. WHY NOT JUST LISTEN and give your friends/family the benefit of the damn doubt????
It’s because you’re so self-centered that you ignored the very real threat he poses anyone that is not a rich, white man. You’re ex-friends want anything to do with you because you only care about yourself.
I feel for you because of your stupidity
This remark exemplifies the hatred the just described.
Actually, this article is a divisive , elitist representation of the Hillary supporter . I am neither a racist or hate-monger. I do not believe in ‘white supremacy” and feel I am better than you because of my skin color. Put one foot in front of the other – you will survive.
I would argue that most Trump supporters are not racist, or sexist, or hate mongers. But to have voted for someone who espouses those ideals, at some point along the way one would have had to decide that even if they don’t share those ideals, to some degree they are OK with them. And a country half full of people who made that decision is worth grieving.
>> to have voted for someone who espouses those ideals <<
Do people not get that elections are not about "who do you think is great?" or about "who do you totally agree with?"?
It's about "who do you prefer?" People prefer very flawed Trump over very, very flawed Hillary.
Y'all do know she has flaws, right? If not, then THAT is the problem.
Of course she has flaws. And by voting for her I had to take a look at those flaws and admit that, to some degree, I was OK with them. If I hadn’t been able to do that I would have voted for someone else.
Agreed!
Except they don’t. Since she won the popular vote and all.
Amen.
You don’t believe in white supremacy? Are you serious? I guess you are.
Keep calling us elites. Keep calling us divisive. When the economy goes into recession, when civil rights are rolled back, when everything is privatized and you’re paying out of your pocket for every road you drive on, get back to us and let us know if it was ‘elite’ or ‘divisive’ to want rights and equality for all, to want a fair balance between government and private sector that protects the workforce. Let us know if you feel the same in a few years.
You are already paying for every road you drive on – in taxes. But the bureaucracy takes 50% as tribute.
True, but it’s not the same as a private toll road. They have not worked in the past – the roads are not maintained properly and the costs keep going up.
“You don’t have to be a racist or sexist to support Donald Trump, but you have to be ok with it.”
Not a hard concept to understand.. It’s the casual validation of his rhetoric. Well said. Not sure why that’s hard to understand.
But you are ok being aligned with a campaign that is openly divisive and inclusive of racists and hatemongers. That’s where supporters of the two candidates differ.
momm2x, you don’t have to “believe in `white supremacy'” for this to apply. Anyone who voted for him effectively endorsed his espoused stances, saying, “This is not a deal-breaker for me.” (Read: “This is okay with me.”) We’re not talking about differences of opinion about how important the emails were, we’re talking about a fundamental difference in values about *what he said publicly* as part of his campaign.
And that’s what this editorial is about.
Your acceptance of the candidates racism and hate-mongering implies you accept it as well. You may not feel that you are a racist or a hate monger but you accept it in your leaders. It’s a package deal. Grow up. Own it.
If this is the case then everyone who voted for/ supported Hillary agrees with accepts condones Americans being killed for simply doing their jobs.
These folks see a world through blinders and can’t see beyond their elitist small mind. They live in a world of manufactured paranoia. Maybe this group should be left alone for a while in their room to ponder their paranoia and maybe they will see that there’s more to fear from their own intolerance of the side which won. Let them stay there until we start undoing the idiocy of the past eight years.
Of course you don’t get it and I bet your white! Your children are not being shot down in the streets because of the color of their skin , but your children are committing horrific crime and walking away with their lives. This country was built on the blood, sweat and tears ofpeople of color, while white america savagely raped and murder us because of the color of our skin and it looks like that’s exactly what they have planned for us again but you people are only worried about money.
But you want Hillary? A person who said Margaret Sanger is a hero to her. The founder of Planned Parenthood who said black people are weeds and need to be exterminated. Planned Parenthood has killed more than 3 million black people, but you still wanted Hillary. The same person who said an unborn child has no rights until they are born. Hillary never cared for you. She only cares for power.
You wait….you will see your own…lets pray it isn’t too late?
Anonymous, we’re liberals. We won’t come after you with bad language or vulgarities or violence, unlike many conservatives, so why hide behind your anonymity?
Oh, but it’s okay for so called supporters of Hillary to riot and burn their neighborhoods in “protest” because she lost? Pretty classy!
Not true. We were called stupid idiots and other names because of who we voted for. Name calling is going both ways.
That’s a load of crap.
Every Trump Talley there was protesters causing road closures not one Trump supporter stole signs,closed roads and beat up . Hillary is a bigot uses Afro Americans to get elected. No democrat has helped the inner city. Black lives matter just daclated war on whites(Hillary supporters
Enough said.
This is not true. My Hilary sign was stolen multiple times. Also, there are lots of videos of people at Trump rallys hitting people. One black man is simply walking by and a Trump supporter elbowed him in the face. It is possible to say ‘my life matters’ without meaning that your life doesn’t. Also, daclated is not a word.
Where’s the like button for this comment?
Of course you are cowardly enough to post this as anonymous. You don’t have a clue how this will affect millions of Americans. You would have rioted in the streets if Hillary had won. W hen shit happens because of Trump, and believe me they will, if you voted for Trump, YOU are personally responsible for that. Remember that.
I am not white and not a ” christian” in you idea of it. So no that was not all that voted for him. The country has become less safe under Obama. He has made racism a bigger problem then it was. Obama did all he could to divide since day one! Whether it was republicans can ride in the back of the car, the cops acted stupidly, or I have a pen and a phone, etc. We are tired of the government the way it has been working AGAINST Americans and not for them. John pavovitz.. suck it up buttercup, wipe your eyes and grow up. We value safety, safety for our country, safety for OUR citizens, safety for all those being killed in inner cities DAILY, safety for girls and women who want privacy in the bathroom. We want equality for everyone, equal treatment when applying for a job, based on experience not race, equal treatment for school admissions, equal treatment for taxes, the same tax rate for everyone. Equal expections for able bodies people to work for what they need and want. We are tired of everthing being offensive to someone. Tired of the pc b.s.. Tired of your religion bashing and condemnation of those who follow or believe in a faith In short John your crying is because you cannot handle being responsible for your own life and feel a need to control others. We choose to support individuals responsibility and REJECT socialism, devicivness, laws that apply to citizens and not the rich or politicians, a growing sense of entitlement by people, and an ever increasing controling government!!!!!
Well said!!!!
You think Obama divided us? You ain’t seen nothing yet my brother.
This is so sad. You want to hate?
Anonymous,
If you are so proud of your comments and opinions, why don’t you sign your name to them!
You know, what you have said would only hold weight if it weren’t for that fact that youseem to support someone who is in favor of controlling others, as long as the tenements of YOUR faith are upheld. I fully support you following and practicing any faith that speaks to you, what I do not support is passing legislation based on that faith that applies to all of us, because as you’ll remember, one of the bedrocks of this nation is religious freedom, and that includes the freedom religion too. We were not and never were founded with the intention of being a ‘Christian ‘ nation. But I hope that our worst fears are not realized and this shake up does in some way come with good fortune for us all.
You know, what you have said would only hold weight if it weren’t for that fact that youseem to support someone who is in favor of controlling others, as long as the tenements of YOUR faith are upheld. I fully support you following and practicing any faith that speaks to you, what I do not support is passing legislation based on that faith that applies to all of us, because as you’ll remember, one of the bedrocks of this nation is religious freedom, and that includes the freedom religion too. We were not and never were founded with the intention of being a ‘Christian ‘ nation. But I hope that our worst fears are not realized and this shake up does in some way come with good fortune for us all.
Oh save us from the brave Keyboard Warrior who hides behind the anonymity of the interwebs.
And tell me…..just how trump and his cronies are gonna do that?
Amen Anonymous!!
Im only curious, but you reject a controlling government yet your party chooses to control women and their health, and wants to control who can marry whom? Why can’t the people decide that for themselves?
Because we can’t sit back and watch you murder innocents. It’s not your choice it’s your responsibility due to a choice you made beforehand.
Well said Anonymous this is exactly why I voted Trump!!!!!!
Well said Anonymous that is exactly why I voted Trump!!!
Getting a job based on experience….hmmm
If you voted for Trump you clearly don’t really want “…equal treatment when applying for a job, based on experience…”. And don’t tell me the media has painted the picture of Trump as a man lacking political experience. He has no experience. He is not qualified to be the President.
Where does it say you need a political background in order to be qualified as a president? That’s what’s wrong with this country, career politicians. This is why people voted for Trump. Hillary was simply a puppet of the system and it’s corruption, that’s the change Trump supporters are talking about. Now we just need term limits on the Senate and Congress.
Exactly
Very well said!!
What a crock of shit!!! He did nothing to divide this country.. because of your hatred of everyone who is non-white who r divide this country.. hope u all reap what u sow😡😡😡
Amen
Aman
Even if that faith is not christian? Does that equality extend to the LGBT community? Does that safety extend to the many wrongly killed by those sworn to protect and to serve?
You say Obama has made racism a bigger problem — how so? He’s made the country less safe? Which safeguards did this administration strip away?
Same tax rate for everyone but not too upset that the President Elect didn’t pay any for over a decade?
As for privacy in bathrooms I can only speak for the men’s room where the only opportunity for a lack of privacy is at the urinal. Fortunately we have stalls with doors that close and lock. I’d be surprised if the stalls for women lack locking doors. Even more surprised if they have urinals.
I guess Obama made racism worse by being black.
I doubt you live in the “inner city”, which is code for black and “those people”. And a woman much more likely to be attacked by a straight male than a transgender man.
When someone can’t say something racist or sexist or hateful, it’s “I hate being p.c.” but when someone talks anything slightly negative or even neutral about religion, it’s a “war on Christianity”.
Well, I’m tired of being Religiously Correct! Happy Holidays!
Exactly!
You just a big ol scary bih that inadvertently volunteered your civil liberties to those who prefer a more police state and telling your scary a$$ what to do. You OMG the republican party stand against half the things that you want. Bush years all over again and Clinton was trying to move forward with the progress made by Obama the things that didnt get shot down by your now beloved republicans. A businessman with poor track record for being deceitful, Shortchanging workers, outsourcing products to other countries and fraud. These are documented. I didnt make this up. Im not elite I live in a city believe in progress not divisiveness in a society we work together not against. I got a big mirror when nonsense happens
amen
“safety for girls and women who want privacy in the bathroom. We want equality for everyone”
I wasn’t going to post anything, but I can’t ignore this. How can you put these two phrases together and not see how contradictory it is? The whole uproar about women and girls not being safe or having privacy in bathrooms is based ENTIRELY on people resisting the attempts to make things safe and fair for transgender people by allowing them to use the bathroom for the gender they identify as. So, if you’re part of those that are screaming about that, then clearly you do not want equality for everyone. Open your eyes and mind.
Hear hear! And I just saw the stock market is hitting record highs today.
How can the success of hatred, bigotry and fear be “Hope and Change”? How can Trump’s parroting Hitler be HOPE for anyone, except for the deeply depraved, hate-filled ignorant bullies?
You can find these truth if you look up facts. I do not follow what the media says I look things up. Factfinder.com gives you the facts you seek. The first agenda that Trump has as he promised, is to revolk an Obama order that gives work, protection and permits to 750,000 Dreamers which are undocumented immigrants settled in the US. Then deport 11 million undocumented immigrants settled in the US and revolk and deport along with their parents some 5 million US citizen children born here to undocumented parents. No Syrian refugees will be allowed into the country and halt a refugee resettlement program that next year was planning to admit 110,000 refugees throughout the world and institute a ban on Muslims hoping to visit, do business, study or legally migrate. Tell me what right do you have to be here? Our forefathers came over here uninvited to America the land offering a beacon of hope to the oppressed. Our Statue of Liberty and Justice for all will be for those who have family that migrated here in far back history. I wonder if all the Trump supporters think it okay for them to visit , do business or study in these countries that are not welcome here.
At the expense of civility and safety for people that don’t like you or him. “What does is profit a person to gain the world and lose their soul?”
Ye of little retoric, when you don’t acknowledge what you say as the spoken word of another, that is plagerism, be careful that none of us uneducated deplorables see that and point it out to you…
Remember that when you are left out in the cold, clutching to all of the empty promises Trump fooled you with while you wonder where your next meal is coming from. This presidency will be a disaster for rich and poor alike, and if you’re not rich now, you will be one of the ones feeling it first.
Remember that when you are left out in the cold, clutching to all of the empty promises Trump fooled you with while you wonder where your next meal is coming from. This presidency will be a disaster for rich and poor alike, and if you’re not rich now, you will be one of the ones feeling it first.
Hope for bigots who hate and fear, sure.
But a lot of hate and fear for everyone else.
Trump hasn’t delivered anything yet except fear, despair, divisiveness and a trip into a very sad past.
Boy are you sorely mistaken especially if your counting on trumps word
Tell that to Central Park 5 and everybody that looks like them.
DT delivers change… what kind and for whom remains the central concern.
Edward, there is no guarantee. Just like with BO.
Calling all Trump voters white, christian and straight is being a racist I my opinion. Shame on you for that.
What? In what way? Because right now I’m trying not to see you as a white reactionary cynically using Barak Obama’s words to sing the praises of a con artist.
Trump is going follow thru on his promises, unlike obama, or corrupt hilary.
All Trump supporters – why did you read this article? Was it so you could bash those of us who feel this way? Do you discern some sort of satisfaction from bullying people? Your classless behavior, rude responses & lack of respect for others are what we’ve all come to expect from Trump’s supporters. Ironically if it were the Hillary supporters treating you as you are treating us, you all would be far more hateful, spewing vulgarity & crassness. Clearly your parents didn’t teach you to treat others the way you want to be treated & it’s evident by how you are behaving towards people on this post.
Yes!!!
This is so sad! He never said anything about America being mainly “white and Christian”. The man that wrote this should really read before writing make-believe “facts”!!! Wake up people and get over it! No Hilary didn’t win, she can go back to her pro abortion, open the borders and treat our military like crap now! Amen she didn’t win!!
Are you people for real??? Obama has brought so much danger to our citizens and our country with his Muslim brotherhood affiliations and backdoor deals. He is the most pro death president we have ever had. Obamacare costs will skyrocket in the next few months, for some to the price of a monthly mortgage, how will those who need it afford it?? We were devastated when BHO took office but respected the office of POTUS and prayed for him. Still do. Not a fan nor do I approve of how he has led this country. The “fears” you have re: Trump are media induced. He loves this country and wants to make it better, safer, bring jobs back to America, etc. The media pushed the agenda of what you speak of. Muslims stone and behead the LGBTQ and he wants to keep those that are terrorists out of our country. You want them in so they can kill them?? Doesn’t make sense. His personal life may not be the most upstanding but was Bill and HIllary’s?? I think you need a trip down memory lane. Bill is a rapist and womanizer. Talk about sexist! Hillary covered up for him and threatened those women, not much of a supporter for women by doing that. She also supports countries that treat women as second class citizens, how is that being a champion for women? Hillary has lied over and over again regarding the deaths of Americans in Benghazi and 33,000 emails she was to provide by subpoena were destroyed. Is she trustworthy and truthful?? I don’t think so. Her mentor is George Soros. Look him up…scary person. Trying to bring our country into a one world order with other countries is not what our forefathers envisioned when writing the Declaration of Independence. I think you need to branch out and READ about the other former candidate besides what the media wants you to read and believe. There is a lot of information out there. Even watch videos of her appearances before the senate, etc when she was to answer for what she did. She took the 5th as did those working for her. If she’s so honest and trustworthy why not tell the truth and answer the questions?? I am not a “fan” of Trump but believe he is going to put supreme court justices in place that we need that will affect decisions in our country for the next generation which is extremely important. Our religious liberties are NOT at stake with him nor is our safety. I think you will be pleasantly surprised by what this man may accomplish over the next four years. Please keep an open mind and respect the office of the President as we have with previous Presidents. No man or woman is perfect so the perfect candidate does not exist but I think the country spoke loud and clear who they wanted. We are not homophobic, or any of the other phobic words listed above. That is ridiculous. Get out your bible and pray for your soul, for the president elect, and our country.
You are seriously delusional if you believe that. Trump IS a part of the establishment, he may not be a “career politician” but he is most certainly one of the elites. If you think that he will do anything that doesn’t benefit him and his cronies you are also a idiot. All you have to do is look at his transitional team and it will tell you how his reign will be.
Very well said..they can call us racists..deplorables…misogynists but they dont know us..we are husbands..mothers ..fathers wives..all who believe in a fair world where we are not judged for WHO WE ARE .. our faith in God is mocked..our sacred belief in the sanctity of marriage is mocked…we do not judge by skin color or gender or sexual interests. What you do behind closed doors is not our interest. That is between you and God.If you desire a civil union we do not object. BUT QUIT MOCKING OUR VALUES with your opinions. THAT IS WHY I VOTED TRUMP !!
I know a lot of Christians who have not felt mocked, and who are grieving. Nothing was being impsed on you; it appears that just because others’ right were expanding, you think yours were diminished. They aren’t if you could either be more inclusive or less paranoid.
Because, magic!
How?!??? Racist mysoginistic rhetoric is the hope?? Yeah, I’ll wait.
B.S. is what Trump delivers, Edward. Point made and noted.
Sure. Let’s just hand onto our p—–ies!
There is no hope for people of color, for women, for the LGBT. The far right agenda will be imposed, limiting rather than expanding our freedoms and diversity. The environment is at risk, our health is at risk, because those now in power don’t believe in science of climate change. Our animal world is at risk because it’s okay with him, with his kids to kill wildlife for pleasure. There is no hope right now.
trump delivers the mindset of the kkk. that’s not hope — not for most of us.
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Edward, you will be disappointed. Good luck
Thank you! I certainly don’t believe it will get any worse.
I’ve read a lot of comments, many saying they are tired of welfare handouts. What I think everyone is missing, is the fact the rich have so many loopholes when it comes to taxes, they end up paying very little or nothing, like Trump did. Do you realize how much it would help all people if the rich paid their fair share of taxes and didn’t funnel it to accounts outside the USA? Maybe, just maybe, people would be able to live on what they earned. The middle class and the poor are left to make up the difference with higher taxes, higher mileage etc. If the rich paid their fair share, the government might not have to borrow from China, we would have the money for better military, better care for veterans, money to help with healthcare, pensions would be left alone, social security would mean security in your retirement, we wouldn’t have to worry about government dipping into a fund that we have paid into all our working lives. Also, every politician SHOULD NOT get full benefits when they leave office. They seem to be part time workers with full benefits, which is totally wrong, because again, it is the little man that ends up footing the bill. Sometimes I think it really doesn’t matter who is president, because, until the political parties put aside their differences, and actually want what is best for our country, by working together instead of against each other, nothing is going to change for the ordinary citizen. The politicians will never pass a bill limiting their benefits, the rich will never pay their fair share of taxes because they are too busy hiding it in offshore accounts. Just think of the trillions of tax dollars lost over the years . The tax laws need to be changed, and again, I doubt it will happen, because again, the politicians are too busy thinking about their own pockets. People think Trump is so great and hopefully, he may turn out to be a good president, but I am not holding my breath for two reasons. One, he is just another rich man who has no idea what it is like to struggle to make ends meet, and two, I have never in my life witnessed a more divisive campaign than Trump’s. He has divided our country like no other person. He encouraged fights at his rallies, promoted hate against Muslims and other minorities. He has no compassion in his heart for the less fortunate.
F$&ing put your boots on and go to work!!! The sense of entitlement is at an all time high!!
I agree! John quit being a cry baby like the other dems. Trump is not status quo…people need to do the right thing. I am done paying for all of the bottom feeders. Aka the cry babies. People that work hard don’t owe anyone anything. Take responsiblity for you family.
An adulterer, child rapist, egomaniac, malignant sadistic narcissist, he won’t chang anything for the better. He has open doors now to grope more women, he is in the WH now. A real piece of garbage who only cares about his hair . Thats what you voted for. I dare to leave your daughters, or your wife alone with him.
Don’t jump the gun…
Trump has delivered nothing yet. Obama faced insurmountable obstruction from a Republican congress whose sole stated purpose was to block any and all progressive legislation. I will try to remain hopeful that Trump will govern with thoughtful dignity, however; from his past behavior, and those he surrounds himself with, I have my doubts.
We haven’t seen a thing other than more hateful rhetoric by him and his followers
The media painted the picture that you’re talking about. It’s not true. Shame on them for their deception and shame on you for falling for it and boasting yourself as a “pastor” to influence others to your false opinions. Do yourself a favor. Start reading the bible again and put some true love back in your heart.
What are you talking about? All those words are things we heard coming out of trumps mouth! The only thing the media had to do with it was they reported it! You read a different bible than I do ! Mine has the words of Jesus not the words of a cruel, racist man!
Frank Cobb…the media didn’t paint the picture. All of these things came straight out of Trump’s big, fat, ugly mouth. Get your head out of the sand.
Which planet have you been living on!!!?? You need to go back and re read what John wrote here because you evidently missed something. I think you are on the wrong blog or something. Do us a favor, at least today and HUSH UP.
So “truelove ” is hating everyone besides other white Christians?
Do YOURself a favor and stop thinking god is the only way to love.
My point of view is that everyone is deserving of love until proven otherwise. That includes the penniless hobo on the street. That includes the man who owns multiple million-dollar companies. That includes the man who sees himself as close to god. That includes the man who believes religion isn’t the way to go. That includes the woman who thinks the fact I’ve only used ‘man’ before now means I’m part of the patriarchy. That includes the black man, the muslim, the rich, the poor, the gay, the straight, and the non-binary. Everyone is deserving of love until they show themselves to be a terrible person who thinks they can choose who and who doesn’t deserve love based on an arbitrary thing like race, sex, and religion. That is my point of view and nothing anyone says can make me think otherwise.
Does this include the unborn? Do they deserve love?
What about the children born here and are US citizens and this is all they know. They will be taken from there home, school and friends and sent with their parents out of this land because their parents are undocumented. And I do not know if you are a man or a woman but if you or just say your mother were raped whould you like to be forced to have a child that you could not provide for ? Or would you carry that child for a year almost of your life and then give it away.
Sad day when someone can follow a man who cheats people, degrades women and says things like,”I’d run as a Republican. They are the dumbest group of voters” and those people are the ones who elect him. One thing we can agree on I guess he is intelligent enough to make a fool out of millions of people.
Sad day when someone can follow a man who cheats people, degrades women and says things like,”I’d run as a Republican. They are the dumbest group of voters” and those people are the ones who elect him. One thing we can agree on I guess he is intelligent enough to make a fool out of millions of people.
Agreed
A perfect example of the point that was being made in the article. The “bible” does not pertain to the entire country, nor the world.
Blaming the media for your tiny view of the world is endemic of what is wrong in this country.
Hillary supporters believe in a diverse America – so do Republicans
one where religion or skin color or sexual orientation or place of birth aren’t liabilities or deficiencies or moral defects – so do Republicans
Her campaign was one of inclusion and connection and interdependency – no. It was about the patronizing progressive machine trying to spoon-feed the public their ideology
It was about building bridges and breaking ceilings – no, it was about division and sowing hatred for those who think taking a different road to positive places is wise.
It was about going high. No, it was about going as low as you can and doing anything – absolutely anything – to get elected.
Trump supporters believe in a very selective America; one that is largely white and straight and Christian – and you get this how? You are ridiculous. He ran a campaign of fear and exclusion and isolation. No, he ran a campaign where he shot off his mouth and gave people hope that someone would challenge the corrupt status quo and maybe tell the truth about what goes on in DC. The man has no filter and can’t lie worth a crap.
“that’s the vision of the world those who voted for him have endorsed.” Shame on you. Seriously. You need to go see a therapist. You’re like a textbook example of cognitive distortions: https://www.apsu.edu/sites/apsu.edu/files/counseling/COGNITIVE_0.pdf
Hes a character and he played you for the fools you are. He’ll hang himself no doubt.
Frank, please help me out here. I am just a sinner, human, Christian that has read the Bible…especially the red words of our Savior Jesus Christ. For the life of me, I can not see anything there that supports Donald Trump’s rhetoric and am really curious where the love is in his message. Please, please give me some scripture reference that supports DJT and refutes what is written above. Honestly, I need that direction because I just cant find it.
Did you read Revalations?
You are the epitome of what he is saying. You are in my prayers.
Of course it’s true!
It’s about overt racism and hostility toward minorities.
– you must be talking about Hillary treating them like an unthinking mass of sheep, waiting to do her bidding, while never actually doing anything for them. Whereas Trump has helped minorities over and over for decades, long before his political aspirations.
It’s about religion being weaponized.
– like Hillary boasting that she’s going to get Christians to pay for abortions
It’s about crassness and vulgarity and disregard for women.
– like Hillary defending Bill’s career of antics and attacking those who accused him, or her saying Pro-Life women are not ‘real’ women
It’s about a barricaded, militarized, bully nation.
– like Hillary openly mocking those whose morals don’t match her own, calling them stupid, ignorant and, of course, deplorable
It’s about an unapologetic, open-faced ugliness.
– like all the reports of Hillary screaming at staff, cursing out military and secret service, and don’t forget her unbridled financial corruption that’s only beginning to surface.
It looks like JP is the one who fell for all the soundbites.
Amen!
Frank, the media merely revealed the picture. I was watching. Every single day. I saw his mouth open. I heard his words. I watched him whip his crowds into a froth. I have seen the videos the skinheads posted of themselves vowing to kill n***ers and f***ots as soon as Trump is president. The media–the existence of the tech that carries it, too, allows the picture to be seen. Each paints a thousand words.
His own words painted it
Nothing you wrote makes any sense Mr. Cobb. Hope you can find love in your heart someday to understand what he wrote.
I wish you peace
Why did Trump say at his rallies tat it was ok to punch people? I didn’t support either candidate, but I don’t think that Trump needed to insult people and encourage violence in order to gain support. If anything, I think more people would have supported him if he called for overthrowing a corrupt government without putting down so many people.
The media didn’t paint this picture. Donald did. He painted it with his words and his deeds . . . unless the videos were all doctored and the speeches all dubbed.
Okay, so what is the truth? I see and hear the things Trump says and it’s hard to think otherwise. Tell me, give me specific examples of things Trump has done that tells me this isn’t true.
All of Trump’s negative rhetoric against the mentioned groups (Mexicans, women, Muslims, disabled people) is caught on tape. How is that untrue? How is that the media? The media is just doing its job of reporting what candidates say or do. Apparently you listened and you didn’t care.
Looks like you need to read some of the gospel yourself; I recommend Matthew 5:3. Jesus himself was a Middle Eastern, poor, refugee with a single mother. I’m not sure he would be welcomed by Trump seeking refuge.
I agree totally. The biased main stream media created all of these false accusations and Dems believed it. Hillary ran a very negative campaign creating false negatives to create distractions. In the end she was beat by her own strategy. Anthony wiener distraction and FBI distraction certainly had an effect on voters. Even when false info is reported, people cannot unhear and they believe it to be true.
The kind of love that Trump had when he said we should round up American and deport them? The kind of love Trump showed when he said we need to kill families and wipe countries of the map? The kind of love that Trump showed when he asked why we don’t use nuclear weapons? “The media” didn’t say those things. Trump said them. You don’t get to say the media is giving a bad wrap to someone by simply recording and replaying their own words.
I listened to his speeches. I heard him. I didn’t depend on the media. So save the weak justifications-I HEARD HIM! I read the bible and he does not display anything Christian. He is hateful. I HEARD HIM.
Truth!!!
Says you, but his thoughts express exactly what I have been feeling all day. How dare you tell us how we are not entitled to our feelings.
OHHH, so the MEEEDIA is what it is? Not… you know… actual things that have come out of his mouth or things that he’s done that they’ve reported on… It’s all just the liberal media telling us lies? Phew, I feel much better now. Thank you so much.
this sure is a loving remark. wow, if you can’t show love don’t tell others to do so.
Media didn’t “paint” a picture…Trump spoke the hatred, intolerance picture.
No one spoke the words for trump? He said them himself so what’s painted?
That is pretty harsh to shame a pastor for sharing his beliefs & feelings. While I respect and agree that it is your right to your share your opinion, but to go and tell him to read his bible is an ignorant, immature & disrespectful response. You are a bigger & better person than that. You don’t have to agree with what he said, just be a decent human being by accepting & respectful of HIS opinion
Frank
in this space of grace and kindness, pls take your shame elsewhere. Its not your business who reads the bible or not, how dare you think you can spot true love ,or not????? yikes
jb
You are so right. What better way to incite and divide than to dig up dirt from the past of a candidate who has hid nothing. The media can’t figure out why so many of his supporters didn’t
fall for it.
Like many, I’m trying to understand yesterday.
Perhaps we are talking past each other. We see Trump as someone who lies, demeans women, and disparages minorities . Trump supporters see him as an agent of change, personal qualities notwithstanding.
My hope is that he will govern from the center.
My fear is that his election will sanction sexist behavior, and hostility towards “others”.
what about Bill Clinton’s treatment of women and Hillary covers it up.
She called those women trash.
Really? Yes she supported her husband because she believed him at first. She is a victim of her husbands actions much as anyone. Why do people not see that?
And we see Hillary as someone who Lies, steals, cheats, gets rid of anyone that stands in her way. A sellout to foreign countries. A destroyer of our Military. We have very different opinions of the candidates but it’s time now to work together to Make America Great again.
Much in the way that all of the Republicans worked together with our current President? When for 8 years of racist, hateful screed against President Obama, they refused to work with him in any way? Yeah, you’re going to get a lot of Democrats really excited to be on board with Herr Trump.
America is peaked as far as great goes!!!
“A Destroyer of our Military.” !?!?
Are you serious? Our military budget is 1/3 of that of THE ENTIRE FREAKING WORLD! (Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/worldviews/wp/2016/02/09/this-remarkable-chart-shows-how-u-s-defense-spending-dwarfs-the-rest-of-the-world/ ) Then note the fact the we have 19 of the 36 ships WORLDWIDE that can be classified “aircraft carriers” – and that makes no accounting of the support ships, planes, and men that go with those ships. And our military is made up of so much more than just aircraft carrier task groups. Throw in all the other Marine, Army, and Air Force service members and equipment, and then tell me by what logic is our military destroyed? Or weakened?
Our problem is not a weak military. Many people from the Conservative camp have talked about “Make America Great Again” and “Take Back Our Country.” And I ask, “What foreign power invaded us and took our country?” It’s the country of Liberal Anericans, too. And what was great about America that we supposedly lost? Owning slaves? Denying women rights? Imprisoning LGBTQ people? Is that what they mean? Or are they referring to the great Middle Class boom that happened in the 50s and trailed into the 70s? Well, guess what, it was Republican practices that allowed the wealth of the middle class and the industry of this country to get stolen by the rich. Trickle down is trickle on. All the money he wants to give to corporations will end up in the offshore accounts of stockholders and CEOs who only care about their profits and the next quarter. They don’t care about your community or their employees or the infrastructure of this country. If Conservatives want to bring back the days of American products in every home and family vacations to DisneyWorld, they need to start investing in the middle. We tried investing at the top – and they shipped our jobs and money to other countries – which is why Trump supporters are pissed, but they are pissed at the wrong people.
That’s already started. The KKK was out in full uniform in NC today.
The left continually misses the point. I am not a bully because I want my government to protect my boarders. If you think Mexico does not protect theirs, just try to enter without permission. You will be crying foul to your US Representative.
The left bashes Trump, but never acknowledges Hillary’s actions that no parent or teacher would accept from a pre-teen child.
You want open boarders with no controls. Grow up and realize those actions will destroy what we do have – Freedom. Look to Germany or Britain to see what the masses of immigrants have done to their society. I am all for controlled immigration. I am for
helping the refugees – in their own land or near their previous land.
I am not for paying higher taxes to subsidize non-Americans while so many Americans struggle. Changes need to be made. The lying media needs to be held accountable for their actions. Citizens need to get off the couch and get involved.
Thank you for this peace….I finally got to cry.
Piece.
Thank you for again describing exactly how I feel.
So very much this.
Me too
Thank you John for telling the world why I’ve been in tears since last night. The America I always believed in does not exist today or at least so it seems. My health insurance is in jeopardy, my love life is likely to subjected to NSA scrutiny. my friends and family members are looked upon as thugs and rapists.
I will likely lose my insurance if the ACA is repealed, and since I have 6 stents in my heart and live 30% below the poverty level, I either won’t be eligible for insurance or it will be so expensive that I would never be able to afford it. Since I have been in a long-distance relationship with a French national for 11 years, and Trump singled out France and Germany for “extreme vetting”, it’s likely that our joke of the normal glitches of video chatting being the NSA spying on us won’t be a joke anymore. My sister’s SO, and my son’s best friend are seen as thugs simply because of the color of their skin. My cousin’s husband of nearly 40 years is suddenly a rapist (no, he’s not an immigrant but is of Mexican heritage).
I grieve for the America that I lost last night. I do not know the America that elected Trump president. And I’m not sure I want to.
I feel for you because of your stupidity omg so true
Only a coward says such things and hides behind an Anonymous name on their comment.
It’s Joe Catholic trying to stir the pot. He has several different identities. If I were John, I would pull the plug on him.
ami,
Sounds like you are tied to this world and the things thereof. Why not seek a relationship with the Savior? He is always there, you are never alone, he cares for you no matter what, he is no respecter of persons and He loves you, no matter what your situation is or who the current President might be.
And will “He” be there to stop them when they move to take away people’s healthcare (so Christian of them)? Or when they begin making LGBTQ Americans 2nd citizens again (if not worse)? Will he stop them from imprisoning grieving mothers arrested because their miscarriages now count as illegal abortions (so much the “Lamb” aren’t they)? And I’m sure “He’ll” come directly to help feed and house all those people who will now lose their safety nets. Please. We live here and now – we have a life here and now – and considering I have not seen “Him” appear to save one rape victim, one baby dying because her parents can’t afford the right medical treatment, one homeless person starving, or one child shot at a school by a madman, I don’t think such a “Him” is worth all that much. Humans are doing these things to each other, and only humans can stop it.
This is not a true picture . And I think you know this . There is a way around every point. Let true change come and start with yourself. Race has become a four letter word and if you go around acting like and talking like the color of your skin is why some one does not like you may be it is because of the things you are doing and not the color of your skin!!! A thug is not the color of ones skin, it is the action you are engaged in!! Thugs can be white, Asian, purple people from Mars or heaven forbid even black! All we can do now is act like grownups and start to live like the people we need to be. Do not allow men to act like a rapist. Start with Rap artists who devalue women and encourage disrespect for all law officers instead of making the bad guys the focus. Change does not comes from the top down, seeds grow up not down. So we start with you and me and stand up for what is right and true every day in every way until the change takes place>
Not true. You do not know the real Trump who has “seen the light,” and is trying to help the USA. You are listening to the lying media and being brainwashed. I didn’t know much either, until I dug deep and found the truth. The democrats are very corrupt now, and I hope he “drains the swamp.” The DOJ and the FBI are corrupt. We were losing America, losing justice, losing the truth. Thank God for Wikileaks and others who have given us inside information.
Thank you for putting words to my speechlessness.
To John P: I beg to differ.
Obama’s liberal agenda of Open Borders and ‘I have a pen & a phone’ mindset has HURT minorities, not helped them. He’s been hellbent on growing the underclass, not the middle class. [Hillary was on the same trajectory. ]
There are 3,077 Counties in USA. [Less than 300 counties voted for Hillary.] Take a look at the County Map. It’s 90% Red.
That’s America.
[I think Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have something to tell us…will the Progressives listen?]
Less than 300 counties voted for Hillary yet she won the popular vote?
John. Please look at a County Map of USA and how they vote.
True , the heavily populated urban areas vote Democrat. But America has a huge land mass. And Americans that live outside of large cities should be respected and valued in how they vote. Donald Trump gets that.
–this is one reason why we have the Electoral College. (to help guard against mob mentality).
Looking at the map is the whole point of why this is such a sad time!! All of the many counties full of Americans who think it is okay for the most powerful man in our nation to treat women and minorities with such disdain, such cruelty. To say all the terrible things that he did and still be affirmed by all those counties of people!
He’s going to appoint conservative Supreme Court justices. That alone is enough of a reason to vote for Trump and for Christians to cheer.
His personal sins are between him and God, and I have a feeling he’ll be too busy making America great again, than to be fooling around in the Oval Office like one of his predecessors did.
You realize that this country is made up of more than just Christians and that we are *not* a theocracy, right? Just because you’re on a diet, doesn’t mean I can’t have a cookie. Somewhere along the way some Christians got this crazy idea that other people exercising their rights negated theirs. It isn’t a zero-sum game. Someone having an abortion or being gay or taking birth control does not affect their ability to be Christian or practice being a Christian in any way. None. And a lot of Christians can’t be believed half the time anyway because they contradict themselves or show themselves to be hypocrites. Don’t want abortions – support birth control. Want fewer people on assistance – make sure everyone gets education and a living wage. Don’t believe in gay marriage – then don’t marry someone of the same sex. It’s simple, but it doesn’t let Christians feel superior or in charge, and that’s the problem.
“And Americans that live outside of large cities should be respected and valued in how they vote. Donald Trump gets that.”
He doesn’t “get” anything. What he “got” was elected. He said whatever he needed to say to convince the huge land mass to vote for him. Let’s not insult ourselves by pretending we believe he is anything more than a loud billionaire with a shotgun-style approach to campaign promises.
Yet she won the popular vote. How can you justify the vote of someone in a rural county counting more than the vote of someone in an urban county? Do you really think that’s fair?
Yes. The reason it exist that way is because certain counties (Primarily the ones around major cities) have a much larger populous. There’s more people in those areas than there are in some states.
B:
— the vote of rural and medium size towns of America don’t count more. But the liberal media and Obama’s Administration painted a false picture of America. Average Americans are NOT Liberal, they are Conservative.
You are wrong. The majority of Americans are moderates and centrists. But half are below average intelligence, so they are easily led by slick salesmen full of lies like Trump.
This was not a just a validation of the bigotry and hatred that Conservatives feel towards anyone different from themselves, but also a victory of the ignorant, mindless following of false propaganda about “Make America Great” from someone who sends our jobs to China.
You just insulted half of America. Good job!
He has a point. It’s a thing called math, which you may have slept through in school, but 1/2 of the population, by definition, will have an IQ below the median, and if intelligence follows a normal distribution (aka a “bell curve”) as is widely supported, than the median is also the average, so yes, half the country IS below average intelligence. Given the importance of nurture, not just nature, in intelligence, I wouldn’t be surprised if more than half of americans were actually below average global intelligence. It was comes of not learning critical thinking skills at a young age.
“And Americans that live outside of large cities should be respected and valued in how they vote. Donald Trump gets that.”
He doesn’t “get” anything. What he “got” was elected. He said whatever he needed to say to convince the huge land mass to vote for him. Let’s not insult ourselves by pretending we believe he is anything more than a loud billionaire with a shotgun-style approach to campaign promises.
This is one of the reason that Trump was elected. We’re fed up with elitists in the media and government who look down their noses at the common man and woman while they live in their privileged bubble. You’re blind if you reduce it to “bigotry and hatred.”
Besides that, this blog is written (allegedly) by a Christian and to Christians, and guess what? Now we have a pro-life president and he will be appointing judges that are friendly towards the unborn. That’s a lot for a Christian to be happy about.
Last I saw, Hillary won the popular vote. There are a lot of big, empty, counties.
Bret –Hillary outspent Trump by 5-fold, she pulled strings going back 40 years, she had the the Most Popular President ever campaigning for her (unheard of) and she still couldn’t get elected.
When all the votes are counted, she may have won by 150,000 votes. Which is negligible.
[Arguably, 1/4 of Hillary voters, could not fill a post-it note with reasons why they voted 4Her. ]
But she won the popular vote,. Meaning more people voted for her than trump.
YOU look at the final vote count:
Clinton = 59,656,630
Trump = 59, 450, 907
You are missing the point of these words. Hate is not an ideology I want in a nation, in a leader. The words I heard on Trump’s side came from Trump’s mouth, not from the media. They were just a carrier.
Paul Inberea, I beg to differ with you. The rate of growth of unauthorized Hispanic immigrants was more or less steady from the early 1990’s up to the Great Recession of 2008, when it peaked at about 12.2 million. The rate then began declining in 2009, the year Obama took office and now stands at about 11.1 million. President Obama has earned the nickname “Deporter-in-Chief” for ramping up deportations of undocumented immigrants; immigration reform was a failure on the part of an obstructionist Congress, not President Obama.
As far as counties are concerned–geography is not population. Geographical regions do not vote; people do. Despite getting fewer electoral votes than Trump, Clinton appears to have won the popular vote. That is an artifact of our electoral college system, by which we must abide. But it does not mean that Trump’s victory represents the raw will of the electorate.
You think territory is America?? America is people, and Hillary won the popular vote. Don’t fool yourself into thinking “America” elected Trump. Scared, middle-class, middle-aged white people from the country who only think about themselves (no good samaritans in that crowd) elected Trump. You are the past of this nation, we, the young, the urban, the allies, the queers, the colored, the immigrants, the educated, the progressive, the environmentalists and scientists and artists and intellectuals and engineers, WE are the future. This is not your country. It’s OUR country. Learn to act like loving human beings and we’re happy to have you along. Otherwise enjoy your last hurrah, and then get out of our way, because we are so over your small town backwards-thinking crap.
Dennis, spot on. I was trying to figure out how to say it, but you just did. The Trump supporters could ask the liberals WHY they would want open borders and more of the UNaffordable Care Act. We’re sick of the BLM movement – bunch of spoiled thugs who are protesting just to make trouble. Looting their own cities in the name of tolerance and ‘more free stuff’. The American people have spoken, “We’re mad as hell and we’re not going to take it any more”. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being conservative and wanting our values to rule the day. Liberalism is a cancer of society that teaches our children they need do nothing to get whatever they want. And if the Clinton Foundation is so above-board, why isn’t it run through an American Bank instead of a Canadian bank…. USA isn’t good enough? Diversity and inclusion is fine; illegal immigration IS NOT. Instead of “grieving” you should just go pick up your trophy for participation (and don’t even get me started on that!)
Eilis – seriously? WTF makes you think REAL Americans want your (as you put it) ‘urban, allies, queers, colored, immigrants’ (and educated is questionable – or else you didn’t pay attention in History class) running this country? This country isn’t ABOUT you alone. Everyone is welcome (whether you’re an idiot or not, I suppose). Maybe YOU should start identifying with “middle America” because we are F’ING sick of young punks who think they know what this country was built on and how much it cost our fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers to build this nation on Christian values. You don’t have to BE a Christian to live here, because we’re all about freedom of religion (not freedom FROM religion). But make no mistake, this is a Christian nation, and if we are just backwards thinking idiots, you have no idea who you’re dealing with! Maybe you’d be happy in ANOTHER country and quit trying to mess with what USED to be great values, instead of the entitlement so many feel they are, well, entitled to. I am NOT a racist or a bigot, and I am pro-choice. But I am NOT for open borders, and truly believe that no real American should be, if they truly understand what this country is about. ALL lives matter, and where we came from and how we got here matter, too. I only hope that you and those like you are NOT the future of this country, because a faceless, godless, entitled country is not what Trump supporters were trying to accomplish. Exactly the opposite.
So would you build a wall around those parts of the country so those scared middle age white peoples can’t enter YOUR country.? Just sayin don’t be a hater. Some people love the things you hate & vice versa. Accept & love EVERYONE I thought was the point of this article. Thanks for ruining it.
To Paul I:
“Obama’s liberal agenda of Open Borders and ‘I have a pen & a phone’ mindset has HURT minorities, not helped them. He’s been hellbent on growing the underclass, not the middle class. [Hillary was on the same trajectory. ]” — This is an opinion, not a fact.
“There are 3,077 Counties in USA. [Less than 300 counties voted for Hillary.] Take a look at the County Map. It’s 90% Red.” — This is according to the 1845 year origin electoral college system. Hillary actually acquired more individual votes, winning the popular vote. So technically a larger percentage of the population chose her.
So I don’t exist then just because I’m not the majority ? Should I just commit suicide now ? Yes I’m brown a girl and I thought I was American.
90% red, you say. Land area is not equivalent to population. Far from it, considering Hillary won the popular vote.
Actually, Clinton won the popular vote, so once again, an outdated constitutional provision takes precedence over the actual will of the people. The rest of this discussion is thus meaningless.
You are forgetting concentration of people. You are caught up in a simple land mass = humanity mass illusion.
Yes, Trump won. That isn’t the argument.
Who cares how many counties went for Trump? Hillary won the popular vote, meaning more actual PEOPLE voted for her. Trump won, but will he respect the fact that more voters actually wanted her instead of him? (Fun fact…. in 2012, after Obama won a 2nd term, Trump blasted the Electoral College in a tweet… right there, the definition of irony….)
you do understand the difference between geography and population right? she will actually win by the popular vote by the better part of half a million votes if not more. unfortunately we are bound by the electoral college which was created because of slavery. The irony is overwhelming.
You realize that Hillary won the popular vote, right? Trump won due to the antiquated electoral college, not because he’s actually the favored candidate, by the people. In all honesty it’s more of a tie, but she technically won the popular vote in the general election.
To Paul Inberea,
counties don’t vote. People do. More people live in those <300 counties than those 3077. More people voted for her than him. That's America too.
Obama ordered the deportation of more people than any other president in history. Trump voters saw their income grow under Obama.
I know reasoning with you is pointless. Like so many Trump supporters, there is nothing anyone could say to change your sclerotic mind.
And Frank Cobb, why don't you let Trump take your wife or your daughter into a locker room if isn't true? I mean, aren't all Republicans acting like Lot, offering up their daughters to be kissed with Tic Tacs and grabbed by their genitals?
Sorry pal. You have it all wrong. Trump will bring the whole country together again. Wait and see.
shut up. we’re allowed to grieve
clueless
Amen
Evidently your mama didn’t teach you when you need to sit down and be quiet! Well since she didn’t, I will. Sit down, AND BE QUIET! We, all, have earned the RIGHT to grieve without TRUMPERS gloating all over us. Back the heck off.
What a snowflake!
Or?
The grieve with graciousness. We are not bad people because we think your candidate sucked and that ours would govern better. Don’t lash out at us while you grieve.
Wow, now that’s the right thing to say, if you would have dropped the name calling and insults in the beginning of this blog you could have saved you and the respondents some time and aggravation. I hope we will all learn to drop the bag of rock sand move on from this, only time will tell, We will not make America great with out it.
We threw out any chances to “Make America Great” by electing the Orange Hitler last night.
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Welcome back to the 1950’s. Sad day in America. Served my whole life and today my voice has been ripped out, insurance will be gone again within 100 days, retirement? Done, back to work. Thank you Trump voters. I love you too.
Thank you for writing the words that I have been struggling to find. I understand now why I’m grieving. I truly hope my fears will be unfounded and this country will come together. I just don’t see how right now. All I see is a divide that will only grow larger and that makes me grieve even more.
Thank you for putting into words how I feel today. Like everything I hold dear is lost forever. Or like a death of someone I love has happened. I will be grieving for what we lost last night.
Hyperbolic much? Don’t believe all the lies MSN delivers to you
Better than the ones that Fox News has spewed out!
As a pastor, I would hope that you were much more understanding of this fact:
Not every person who voted for Mr. Trump holds his views as you stated them. You, apparently, are also blinded to the marginalization that many of them feel. They may not be the “ists” that you label them, and it’s rather un-Christian of you to use generalizations to attack them.
Do I like Trump? No. I also didn’t vote for either of these flawed candidates. But that doesn’t mean that I’m going to go around making general claims on what his supporters are. Neither should anyone else.
Troy,
You can’t shake the Devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding.
The devil walks arm-in-arm with liberals.
Bambi Hussein, that’s the kind of mindless statement that takes us down the path irreconcilable tribalism and social fragmentation. Isn’t it time we stopped such stupid things and started re-learning how to try to understand one another?
Because he’s not made to hide under the desk.
Troy, well stated. This is exactly how I feel!
I agree with Troy, this pits “them” against “us” . I believe there is common ground to be found if we will listen to each other.
The election results were not black and white as this makes it seem. I grieve also for my friends that were Hillary supporters and I hope my friends that were Trump supporters will be sensitive to the grief they feel.
Troy: Sorry, no, but anyone voting for Trump has validated his bigotry, hatred, fear-mongering and regressive view of the world.
Trump used speeches straight out of Hitler’s rise to power. He made the same populous phrases of an “us versus them” mentality.
So even if they say they voted for Trump for “other reasons,” they validated his dark vision that WILL make America hell on Earth.
Wake up pastor. The truth of the matter is this. Fifty percent of Americans believe one set of things. Fifty percent of Americans believe another set of things. Both sides hate each other so much they would just a soon kill the other as look at them. You two-bit b*astards in the Christian fundamentalist and conservative evangelical clergy have egged this hatred on for 40 years. I hope you enjoy the bloody, shooting, second American Civil War this leads to. You could have been a factor of reconciliation and peace. A curse on you in the name of Jesus.
Whether or not the people who voted for him are racists, or sexists, or just all around bigots is not the point. The point is those who voted for him said that HIS BEHAVIOR IS ACCEPTABLE. That speaking about and treating people who are different from you as though they are worthless is okay. The person this country elected to it’s highest office is hateful and openly discriminates and puts down people from all types of minority groups. We do not think everyone who voted for him is a bigot. But we do think that the people who voted for him did not care enough about the fair treatment of ALL CITIZENS of this country to say no to him. We thought America was better than this. This is why we grieve.
I din’t accept any “behavior” of Trump’s when I voted for him. I voted for policy. I voted for a Supreme Court. I voted for a better and less expensive alternative to Obamacare.
I didn’t vote against Hillary’s bad behavior except bad behavior while in office, like setting up her own private server, risking national security, and hiding evidence from the FBI. I voted against her policies.
I don’t accuse you of being a bad person because you see things differently. Be gracious and return the favor.
Maybe you should pay closer attention to the words of the author instead of immediately going to the comments to chastise him. He never labeled Trum supporters as any “ist” but said they all aligned with him. They all validated his beliefs by saying he is the face of our nation. That, you can’t deny. We aren’t judging the people who were duped into thinking this guy cares about them. We are mourning the halting/reversing of progress in the country. All Trump wants is a nation that will make his company more profitable by deregulating businesses and “growing” the economy in his favor. Anyone who believes otherwise is foolish. Trump has always been about Trump…always will be.
Perhaps we should not be angry at the party that represents us. You know, the party that put forward ONE candidate while the GOP put forward 10 diverse ones. You know, the party that rigged the primary process in favor of its chosen candidate.
Maybe next time the Democratic Party will have faith in the democratic process, instead of believing it should decide on the candidate for its voters.
Bernie Sanders would have been a much better candidate than Hillary.
And apparently months ago, Hillary did whatever she could to advance Trump, Carson & Cruz as possible nominee (calling them The Pied Pipers) …because she (thought) it would be an easy win.
That would require introspection. It’s easier to remain blameless if you just write off 50+ million people as being evil and heartless.
“It’s about overt racism and hostility toward minorities.
It’s about religion being weaponized.
It’s about crassness and vulgarity and disregard for women.
It’s about a barricaded, militarized, bully nation.
It’s about an unapologetic, open-faced ugliness.”
I voted for Trump. I’m happy he won. I think he will be a good president.
It had NOTHING to do with anything above. I don’t have a clue what that’s about, especially “weaponized religion.”
I voted for someone who I thought would govern best.
No you didn’t! You voted for Trump because you’re a racist and a bigot who hates women and brown people!
Really, this is what the left has failed at. People don’t like being told what to think or what’s OK to say. The left has turned into 1984’s Thought Police. This is push-back. The left think that they can scream at you, demean your beliefs and your character, and utterly shame you into voting for their candidate. This is push-back.
You want to talk to me about racism? I want to hear solutions, not accusations. I certainly don’t want to be denied a voice because I’m a straight white male. This is push-back. Change your damned tone.
You happily overlooked all of the really awful things he said to half the country on your way to thinking that he would “govern well” not once thinking that all of those awful things he says and does to people are the very things that will keep him from governing well.
When grieving turns to anger, then acceptance, Obama is to blame.
He went rogue. [And Americans did not appreciate it.] He went in there and pushed his ideology (very left). He was NOT given Carte Blanche when we voted him in –but he took it anyway.
Joe Catholic:
You say you voted for who you thought would govern best, but you voted for the man who made bigoted comments against minorities, women, the disabled, a major religious group, and veterans. SO good going, YOU are part of the assassination squad that killed America.
And to clear up your confusion, “weaponized religion” is things like laws granting businesses the “Right” of bias against customers and employees based on “religion” See Hobby Lobby decision) (Rights belong to PEOPLE, not legal constructs like corporations, but never mind that a corporation isn’t a person, let’s let the First Amendment get shot full of holes.) “Weaponized religion” is the growing sentiment by Christians in America that they are persecuted because they cannot force their religion on others. “Weaponized religion” is thinking there is a war on Christmas because non-Christians won’t say “Merry Christmas”, won’t devote themselves to your faith.
So sit there, enjoying your work in validating Trumps bigotry and fear mongering, and thinking that Freedom of Religion only applies to Christians, but never forget that YOU, and those like you, just killed America.
Well I am one that has fear you see I suffered a hate crime July 31 where I was injured on October4 I had to have surgery two weeks later my Dr told me I will never make a full recovery I voted for Hilary because of the hate I heard coming from Trump no other reason I fear leaving my house seance July 31 I fear even more today I fear that Trump is gone spread more hate I prey I’m wrong but tell I hear and see different I won’t feel any safer I won’t feel safe tell I see and hear respect from Trump you see I will never recover from the damage done to my body I am crying just from wrighting this because I hate living in fear but as a American I gone hope for a good out come I am gone hope to be free of this fear I am gone hope for respect for all Americans I’m gone do everything possible to make a full recovery even if the Dr says ill never be 100% I’m gone give myself 100% as I hope Trump will do God bless. All Americans
You’re one to talk John. You exclude anybody who doesn’t agree with your views…
That’s an easy one. The things you people believe are both ignorant and stupid. I reject ignorant and stupid—and I refuse to cooperate with an evil President and his equally evil followers.
Love your heart Pastor P.
Thank you for voicing what so many of us are feeling today.
I am grieving with you JP and those who are sad and grieving today. Peace.
First may I say, judge not least you be judged…..that said, you concern yourself and “grieve” over what you call hate but your ok with lying, conspiracy, murder, abortion. I am not pretending either candidate is without shame, but you might want to do a little more soul searching “Pastor”
Why are you on this site? Go celebrate and leave us alone. Stop demeaning someone with your “quotation marks” who has an opinion and shares it openly and with passion.
By the way, it’s “you’re” not “your.”
I’d never heard about you (John) prior to today. I guess you can thank my aunt for sharing the link to this post on her FB feed. But upon reading it, then digging further to read about who you are and to learn that you are “an 18-year ministry veteran trying to figure out how to love people well and to live-out the red letters of Jesus,” I was left with just one thought – I suppose I will start praying for you and that Raleigh church you serve.
I can appreciate your disappointment and maybe even the general sentiments over this recent election. But this post sounded more like Caiaphas rebuking the Jews, rather than “TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO LOVE WELL…” (upper case font used for emphasis). Anyways, like I said, I will start praying for you, that you figure out the love of Jesus. I’m still learning and figuring it out too…but from what I’ve learned, it’s not that difficult and not that divisive.
Amen and Thank you.
Deks. good point.
Yes, “loving Jesus” is divisive, because those who profess a love of Jesus seem to have no ability to “love” those of us who don’t believe Jesus existed, that god is a myth.
When Christians can STOP trying to force their fantasy BS on my, and leave me alone to not believe anything not supported by scientific FACT, then you can say Jesus is not divisive, and not one second prior to that.
Right Deks. Just make John shove his conscience aside and believe everything Deks believes—and the world will be just fine. Screw you man, and screw your hate-based prayers.
Keep writing what you right. You and other likeminded Christians in cyberspace are my only church right now.
…writing what you write…
I grieve that the candidate selected by popular vote has twice in the last 20 years been superseded by the loser of the popular vote winning the electoral college. How is it possible that where one votes is more meaningful than who one votes for?
You could read about the purpose of the electoral college . . . or is that beyond your intellectual capacity?
Now why would the writer want to do that?
S.M. Boynton: Our Constitution gives most powers to the State. In such a huge country, with such diverse population, and diverse resources, it makes sense to break us into States. People have more Freedom in a Government State, rather than a Govt Nation. We are free to move anywhere, to find our niche that most benefits us and our pursuit of happiness.
The individual nature or personality of a State can be a huge asset to it, rather than everything being homogenized, which often just becomes mediocracy. California is different than Idaho. Alabama is different than Vermont. This is diversity that makes the whole greater than the parts. America is amazing!
This morning I grabbed a screen-shot of David Duke’s endorsement of Trump and a “friend” replied with a smiley face. I asked if that was a smiley face endorsing the KKK and racism and she replied that she was just happy that Trump won.
My heart is so heavy that we’re already seeing hate rearing it’s ugly head from the woodworks and it’s I just can’t believe that people don’t see history about to repeat itself. I cannot believe how much we screwed this up.
Blame the DNC and the Clinton Machine for forcing an unpopular and corrupt candidate on us.
Trump is not racist, bigoted, homophobic, and all the nasty names Liberals use to denigrate those who think outside of that box.
We have voted for someone who we believe will govern best.
Your self delusion disgusts me!
People are going to DIE because you hated a woman for being too qualified!
Trump winning wasn’t about hate, race or anything of the sorts. It was about issues Americans were fed up with Obamacare eating their hard earned paychecks while providing less then ideal coverage. It was about wanting stricter immigration laws to protect them in the workplace and street. It was a tiredness of career politicians who have taken advantage working class Americans while lining their own pockets. If all you seen in this election was race,and gender then that’s on you.
He’s obsessed with race and sexual orientation and anyone who doesn’t see things his way is a racist and a homophobe and a very mean person.
He absolutely refuses to even consider any other motive those who think differently than he does may have, except the motive he assigns them. He’s very divisive.
His religion is simply regurgitation of liberal politics.
What about people like me, who aren’t “disabled enough” for SSI, but can’t work? I NEED medication to survive, and no one will give it to me, or would until the ACA. Should I just go die in the streets, then?
Thank you for writing so clearly what so many of us believe. Your posts give me hope.
Reductionism is a dangerous weapon.
It’s currently causing people to lose their minds over the outcome of this election.
The media and apparently a large percentage of Clinton’s supporters believe that a very complex situation, and what motivated voters to back Trump, can be explained away with a few myopic keywords.
And this is alarming to me. It’s propaganda. I did not vote for Trump, but I was and continue to feel outrage at the notion that Hillary and the Democrats can appropriate words like “hope” and “love” and “inclusion” and then simply cast out those who hold a different point of view, calling them racists and bigots and misogynists in the process. It’s the accepted double standard, and that in and of itself is one of the reasons people went to the polls yesterday. It seems they are tired of it.
Perhaps it’s time for us as a country to return to reason. Maybe America was great to certain people when they had jobs. When they could feed their kids. Before they were laid off and lost their house and watched their marriage crumble. And lest we jump to assign blame or launch a counter argument, maybe consider that to be part of the establishment is to be part of the problem. Maybe we need to acknowledge nuance. That there is a very important and real gray area in between the extremes toward which propaganda drives us. Maybe it’s time to change our attitude. Instead of looking at this election through the veil of intolerance, consider that it could be deeper. That American citizens didn’t leave their house on Nov. 8th to vote for hate, but to vote for their wallets. That maybe we aren’t as divided as the media tells us.
We all can choose how to frame this election and the narrative that surrounds it. Grieve all you want, but beware the evils of reductionism.
Well said. As soon as you anoint your political ideology as “good” and denounce those who disagree with you as “evil” then you’re going down a dangerous road.
Yes, beware reductionism…on all sides. Political candidates attract hanger-ons that they aren’t always proud of. Some are careful to disown certain factions, others cynically encourage. Set aside the “propaganda”…on all sides. Trump speaks and acts plainly. It’s quite apparent by his words and actions what type of candidate he was. He doubtlessly has convinced others that he is a fellow traveller and condones their beliefs…beliefs that are the very antithesis of Christ’s. Will this continue into his presidency? Two things come to mind: 1. “lie with dogs, come up with fleas”. 2. “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” Mark 8:36
What planet do y’all live on for crying out loud??? It’s easy to spew what Trump’s campaign was or wasn’t.. Exclusion? Do you not know that the debt level of our country is due to the millions of people we are supporting who are flocking into this country illegally? And that this needs to be stopped ? Bleeding hearts take into aaccount no practical thinking on anything …where do you think the money comes from to support these people? Do you know the statistics on the amount of people on welfare and most of them are not even in this country legally? Do you realize I need a tie American Muslims are pouring into this country every day under the disguise of a refugee? do you realize that of the billions of Muslims around the world one fourth of them are radical and openly cry for the death of America??? Uh yeah these would be people we dont want in our country. Donald Trump has made clear the distinctions… people of your support will be deep would be the first one scratching their own kids and wondering what happened when they rape and kill your wife and children? Are you that ignorant of what you speak on dude??? Educate yourself on The realities, not your delusional utopian American Christianity. Have you not read your Bible? Read some of the things God told His prophets to do to those coming against His people. YOU are speaking irresponsibly and indeed are guilty of the same divisiveness you claim to be so against.
“Get Together” lyrics
Love is but a song we sing
And fear’s the way we die
You can make the mountains ring
Or make the Angels cry
Though the bird is on the wing
You may not know why
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
Some may come and some may go
We will surely pass
When the one that left us here
Returns for us at last
We are but a moment’s sunlight
Fading in the grass yeah
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
If you hear the song we sing
You will understand
You hold the key to love and fear
All in your trembling hand
Just one key unlocks them both
It’s there at your command
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
Yeah come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
Try to love one another right now
Try to love one another right now
Get Together https://g.co/kgs/oCcDIZ
You know what? I am a christian and I did NOT vote for DT. I loathed the idea of him in office…TOUCHING the White House at all!!
But here we are. We can whine and cry, ultimately pushing this past 2 years of division into the future, or we can get off our high horses, GET BEHIND THE MAN (yes I said it!), support Him when he is doing good, and use democratic processes when we feel he puts us at risk! It is unpatriotic to publically hate, bash, scorn our commander-in-cheif! If we are to be ONE NATION UNDER GOD, then all of us have to “BUCK UP”, believe that God will be God, and use the powers that we have under the constitution. The people have spoken, and Donald Trump will be our next president!! Choose today how you will help move this country FORWARD and UPWARD! Come on… we all have to do it! Whining, lamenting has to end today… Let’s go!
I love all of these “because I say so” posts. If you don’t want Hillary, you are a racist, “because I say so”. I am looking for a better future, and you are filled with hate because I said so, because you didn’t support who I supported. BLAH BLAH BLAH. While sitting there preaching about what other people should do, how about listening to your own advice? It doesn’t really matter anyway, The Presidency, House Majority, and Senate Majority are now a real thing.
John, what I read is what YOU think that I think. You do not have any idea what I think. I find it mean and harmful for you telling the world the untruths about what I think. The only one that knows what I think is God. He can see what is in my heart.
Please quit spreading the hate. We need to heal.
JP makes the same mistake that Obama did…”I, Liberal, know better than you, Conservative.”
Obama took Center Stage these past few days, & his hate-fueled speech was shocking. Vulgar in his desperate plea to get Hillary elected. Americans saw through his act. His flailing was pitiful.
He lost many votes for her.
Thank you for bringing light to darkness. Everything you wrote I feel deeply about. And those feelings are filled with question, anger, sadness, and hopelessness. I just pray for our country.
sour grapes…
So negative. This is what we need to get away from. Our democratic process is all we have. Respect it! Be a part of the solution – not the problem!
And your point is?? The Trump way of how America should be is exactly HOW IT SHOULD BE!!! F your crybaby feelings. F illegals. F the miswired gays and finally, F ISLAM
JUST NO.
you have been so missled but you have made your bed just dont inflict it on the rest of the world you need help now
I’m so super sad that you and sooo many others feel this way. But can I say this? What you wrote… it tells people that anyone who voted trump has hatred in their heart for them. It tells people that every trump voter wants a white, Christian America and doesn’t care about anyone else. And THAT, my friend, is FAR from the truth. I know those people are out there… UT you’re exaggerating and generalizing a situation to make it seem even more hopeless. I voted for trump after literally going back and forth 3 times in the last 2 weeks. I’m not sure it was the right decision… but regardless… most of the things in this passage are the opposite of how I feel. Please… by all means… GRIEVE!!! Your vision was not realuEd and I know that hurts. You feel personally wounded. But DONT YOU DARE spread or believe the lie that those trump statistics represent people who hate you, look down upon you, and don’t want better for you. Some of them, yes. ‘At do even most of them. But so many of us are distraught … desperate for better but not sure how to get there!!
“Crocodile tears” are not sincere tears. Please look up this term.
… I could not disagree more with this blog post … and it is sad that there are not enough words to explain how the world won last night …
In time we will know. What will never be known is how bad things could have gone in the other direction!
Now there is hope for the millenials ! Thank you God.
The mother of a 4-year-old boy, I’ve been asking myself how I can keep telling him to be kind and courteous, wait his turn in line, not bully, treat others with respect, seek an education, arm yourself with knowledge, and work hard when the leader our country has chosen embodies exactly none of these qualities. I work in higher ed, where being a woman, much less a lowly *staff* member (as opposed to faculty) makes me a second-class citizen. Despite working hard, being honest, and displaying good integrity, getting ahead professionally or personally seems an impossibility for people with the aforementioned attributes. Instead, our culture has chosen to reward and validate disgusting behavior by making it our leader because it was born rich, makes empty promises, and has a pretty wife.
What’s the point of raising children to be decent human beings when our country doesn’t value it?
Donald Trump has some of the most amazing children you will ever find. They were raised with an enormous work ethic, are well educated, and do not use drugs or alcohol. They are kind and courteous and treat those who work for them and encounter them on a daily basis with respect.
If you think Donald was given everything he has, and has not had to work his but off to get where he is, then you need to do a little research. He works 18-20 hours a day many times only sleeping for short naps while traveling.
I am looking forward to seeing the whole Trump family in the White House. They are a fine family.
I enjoyed seeing Michelle & her family in the White House very much. I will always treasure that.
You are lumping everyone who voted for Trump into one big pool and you couldn’t be more wrong. By the same token, not ALL Hillary supporters are for Gay rights. I would like to think we voted for the candidate who most closely held the same beliefs as we did, whether voting for Hillary or Trump. We all have to keep fighting for what we feel is right. Even if Hillary had won, the fight to end racism, bigotry and sexism would have had to continue, it would not have ended over night with her election. Keep fighting!
You have been suckered in by the media and are thinking with your feelings rather than your mind. This is the real America, and the exact same America the elected BHO 8 years ago.
You have made up things that you believe, instead of examining the facts with an open mind. Cry about what you think you have lost, but remember you can’t lose what you never had!
Today is real. You can make your worst thoughts come true or you can work to make this reality what you want it to be.
Thank you John, that was beautiful.
Yes, and . . .
“It feels like living in enemy territory being here now, and there’s no way around that. We wake up today in a home we no longer recognize. We are grieving the loss of a place we used to love but no longer do. This may be America today but it is not the America we believe in or recognize or want.”
This paragraph could have been written during the last 8 years by many those who voted for Trump yesterday. He validated the pain, grief, and disenfranchisement that has been building in them for years and promised solace.
It doesn’t matter that I don’t agree that the increasing diversity and opportunities for women and minorities and viewing the world as a global community caused their anguish, but to move on I have to acknowledge that what they have been feeling is real and to figure out how to work to make a bigger pie, rather than fight over the pie that they beleive is not big enough for all of us.
I believe you think there is such a stark difference. You may even believe that Hillary is for inclusiveness .
And yes, it’s about two (or more) different ways of seeing the world.
It’s not just Hillary supporters who believe in a diverse view of the world. Many of us who are very much against her as president believe in the value of a diverse nation. In fact, I’d suggest that many of us believe it even more than Hillary.
The problem I and many others have with her view of diversity is all the -isms associated with her view.
I.E. people of color can’t succeed with help from their progressive friends. How is that any different from those who suggested that blacks were somehow inferior? Frankly, it’s not.
Fill in the same for women. Hillary’s brand of inclusiveness included the idea that women can’t succeed without help from her progressive friends. So sexist.
I could go on and on, but the truth is, Hillary represented the other side of the very same coin you claim describes Trump.
The form and manner of her -isms may vary, but there are every bit as offensive and wrong headed as are his.
I agree. Hillary & Obama see themselves as better than others. I don’t see their kind of ‘help’ as being helpful, in fact, it’s extremely condescending. [ For example, they think that black people are somehow incapable of getting a photo-ID.] I think they both have bought into false stereotypes from their leftist college philosophers. They are incapable of thinking out of the box.
[On the contrary, I find that fundamentalist Christians to be very open minded, flexible, compassionate , creative and non- judgmental .]
I think this is hateful and only continues to divide America with false beliefs. Today both parties are trying to merge together as one but it is things like this that continue to separate us further.
John,
I appreciate your well written piece. However, I feel like another commenter noted, that all the bad you mentioned about Mr. Trump is straight from the media, etc. Yes, he is a flawed human and has made, and said, some things I do not agree with. That being said, he has apologized and that should end it, as it would for obama or hillary. Yet, since he is a Republican, his apology is not recognized.
I submit to you, John, that Hillary is also terribly flawed, yet has never apologized. Rather, she has been caught numerous times in the last thirty years in lies, distortions and misleading comments. Early on she was fired from the legal team investigating Nixon because of her unethical behavior, and she has continued on that path without apology ever since. Her concession speech was an amazing distortion of her career and motives, ie, she had been on record as saying Christians would be forced to conform to federal rules by legislation, yet she alleged she supported all religions in her speech.
Add in covering up the Bimbo Eruptions, Bengazi, illegal emails, selling access to the government and her campaign being heavily financed by the Saudis and I find your rationale for “grieving” more than a little misplaced.
This campaign was never about the American people, it has always been about her. Her foul mouth rants against those who served her (police, secret service, etc.) show the real personality behind the mask.
This is a time for celebration, not grieving. The country has been purged of a sickness that was almost terminal, namely, professional politicians.
Many of us were told to get used to it when obama was elected. Now, we all have been freed of a cancer, whether it is recognized or not. The hurt you feel is from the surgery that removed the cancer, not grief. Given time, you will feel better, if, you are intellectually honest with yourself.
However, many will refuse to recognize any positive moves forward and attrmpt to get their way by whatever means are necessary, including anarchy.
Each person must decide whether it is freedom or anarchy. The choice is real and the outcome is, also.
It’s about overt racism and hostility toward minorities.
It’s about religion being weaponized.
It’s about crassness and vulgarity and disregard for women.
It’s about a barricaded, militarized, bully nation.
It’s about an unapologetic, open-faced ugliness.
Yes, but that was all Hillary…
Despite how emotional people have gotten about politics this year, it still IS politics.
This result is hard to accept, but it’s hardly surprising. I really wanted HRC to pull it out. I understand, however, the frustrations of the white working class voters in WI, PA, OH, and MI. They voted 8 and 4 years ago for the first black President because they thought he was qualified and would do a good job. And, the for most part, they think he has done ok. Obama’s approval numbers are high. But the far left and minority communities decided in recent years that whites, and white men in particular, are the root of all things bad. Many on the left say white men are “privileged” and heap blame on them for everything, without first reflecting on their communities’ own shortcomings. Whether it’s true or not, the white community feels like they are getting a big FU from a bunch of ingrates. This result is partly a white-lash. White males got piled on and it is human nature to react.
You have given eloquent voice to my thoughts and feelings about this election. Thank you.
You summed up our feelings perfectly. Thank you so much.
And yet Clinton is the one who called half the citizens of the United States deplorable!
I said nearly the same thing four years ago…. it is certainly all in the eye of the beholder. You’ll survive.
https://ramblingagain.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/the-truth-my-perspective-about-the-facebook-meltdowns/
What you believe about Trump and Trump supporters is very far from the truth. You’ll see that soon enough. God bless. I understand your frustration when half the country chooses for you.
Reducing people to categories and how you think they voted, or why they voted that way is every bit as obnoxious as the things you are accusing those who didn’t vote for Hillary of. It’s never that simple.
Cool story bro. You’re a liar though.
America will heal its wounds much more quickly if the Democrats would stop blaming racism, bigotry and colour, etc., for the loss of this election, Truly, nothing could be farther from the truth. The simple reason for the loss yesterday was the Democratic party picked the worst possible candidate to run. Many democrats realized this and voted Trump just to keep her out. To continue calling all Republicans white, racist bigots is to continue the split in the country (for all the wrong reasons I might add). Time to pull your big boy and big girl pants up, shake hands, and clean up your act!
Thank God,
Conservatives can now come out from behind the shadows! (no more skulking).
I’m not even an American, but reading your comments lead me to believe that there are no bigger racists, bigots and zealotry than in the Democratic party. I have never heard so much vindictive hatred being spewed at others as much as I have in the past few weeks, and a good 80% of it comes from the left. What is it you are all so terrified of?
You and other Hillary voters have my thoughts and best wishes from across the pond. I felt the same way after Brexit- people in my country, that I thought shared my values, ripped away something overnight that I held so dear. I was literally grieving for the future of my country. It did get easier to bear in time (it helped that the government went on holiday to choose a new leader so nothing started to happen until September), but the first month was awful.
Many of those that won don’t (or won’t) understand how it feels. They tell you to suck it up, be happy because “the best” side won, shut up with the doom-mongering because we need to be positive and work together, or just plain shut up – I mean, just look at the comments above on this article. I wish you strength in putting up with these idiots that will be everywhere in the comments section of every news article. Those Trump supporters that have empathy will leave you be – they do exist, and it’s just the vocal minority that have come to gloat. Why can’t some people understand that when a person is obviously in shock and pain, it is not the time to shout at them about how they are completely wrong and have nothing to be worried about. Why can’t some people understand that just because they personally are not rascist/homophobic/misogynistic, voting for someone who espouses those views encourages the minority of the population that are rascist/homophobic/misogynistic, and will have a measurable impact on the affected demographics (if you don’t believe me, look at how race hate incidents in the UK skyrocketed after Brexit).
All the best to you all, and if you find a way to bridge the divide between the two sides, be sure to let us know in the UK.
Trump won but here’s what really matters:
Senate: 52 Republicans, 47 Democrats (loss of one for Republicans)
House: 238 Republicans, 193 Democrats (loss of six for Republicans)
Governor: 33 Republicans, 14 Democrats (gain of three for Republicans)
State legislatures: Republicans now control more than two-thirds of all chambers.
Now the real work begins.
Just a side note –
Harry Reid changed Senate rules about six months ago. Senators can no longer filibusterer federal judicial nominees.
What does this mean? Republicans will control Supreme Court nominee voting without the trouble of Democrat interference on a straight up-down vote.
Even more interesting – Republicans will control congressional agendas, committee chairs and thus legislative time tables.
http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/the-cocky-and-dismissive-media-and-blog-world-has-nobody-to-blame-but-themselves-for-their-new-president-donald-trump/?utm_source=desktop&utm_medium=sidebartop&utm_campaign=push
This blog post fits right in. I didn’t vote for the man but I don’t make terrible assumptions about the people he did. Keep telling each other what you want to hear in that echo chamber while ignoring real issues real people are having. That’s how you got Trump in the first place.
http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/the-cocky-and-dismissive-media-and-blog-world-has-nobody-to-blame-but-themselves-for-their-new-president-donald-trump/?utm_source=desktop&utm_medium=sidebartop&utm_campaign=push
This blog post fits right in. I didn’t vote for the man but I don’t make terrible assumptions about the people who did. Keep telling each other what you want to hear in that echo chamber while ignoring real issues real people are having. That’s how you got Trump in the first place.
It’s not about politics? It’s not about losing?
You just argued the points of politics and losing!! You victimized yourself and others. You misunderstood Trump’s message. You created a divide between people. You pigeonholed Trump supporters to be only one type of person. THATS offensive! Trump supporters are blacks, whites, hispanics, gays, men, women, Christians, Jews, Republicans, Democrats and many more. We are a diverse group. We are not polarizing as you have just done. You have just created an environment of victimization and divisiveness. Trump said in his victory speech that we are all one now and it’s time to unite. Listen! He was elected because people have had enough of the divisiveness in these past 8 years!!!
First of all, to all the Trump Supporters and Apologists on this blog: Seriously, get over yourselves. You have just shown the entire world exactly how you want them to see you: uncouth, uneducated “star-f***ers”. You wanted a Reality Show Electorate, and now you got it. You backed a wild horse candidate, and now you got it. Miss me with the rambling “Not all of us white ppl voted for Trump” BS. If you voted 3rd Party, no matter how “safe” you thought your state was, this is on you. If you didnt vote at ALL, this is on you. I, for one, am not sticking around to fight back. For what? The Mango Mussolini has a Super Majority. A F***ing SUPER MAJORITY!!! There will be no working across the aisle. There will be no room for dissent. We are entering a Fascist state, and in less than 2 years, these same ppl will be the ones lying to everyone willing to listen: “Dont blame me, I voted for Johnson or Stein or Harambe or Hennessy…” FOH…my 11 year old autistic son who is Black is now 40x more likely to be murdered by hate-filled White ppl than by a Black drug dealer or gang member. He’s non-verbal, so of course a White cop will take his silence as a threat.
Democracy as we hoped it could be will NEVER be realized, so long as those with White Privilege live confortably in a fog about their country. You can have it, America. I no longer believe you or in you anymore.
Signed,
A Black, College-educated, Non-Welfare Queen Mother or a Disabled Son (just in case you racist pricks go surfing for old stereotypes to trot out)
wow…college educated and employed – until George Soros’ checks stop showing up. You’ll need a passport.
Wow. The responses to this column really make John’s point for him. This point from the column resonates most poignantly for me: “This is not about a difference of political opinion, as that’s far too small to mourn over. It’s about a fundamental difference in how we view the worth of all people—not just those who look or talk or think or vote the way we do.” Folks, please stop name-calling, stop blaming. We see the world differently, OK? We have to acknowledge that, accept it and respect each other, then try to work to gether despite our differences. Or, as Jesus said, we need love one another. Love, not hate. Love. Love.
John, the very Scriptures you quote go against many of the things you are afraid of happening…i.e. LGBT and the role of women and “racism”.
I keep hearing comments about no longer loving America and that’s something I can’t understand or respect.
There were things in Obama’s America I didn’t like. That was also true of some things W. Bush’s America and even Bill Clinton’s America. But I never lost love for my country.
If you are going to stop loving your country because some of your fellow Americans disagree with you….I would suggest you never loved your country. You only loved what you perceived your country to be.
Thank you John P. I always find something in your posts that lift my spirits, or stimulate my mind, or a sentence or word that grabs my attention and gets me thinking about a topic. I am saddened by the harsh reaction from people like Anonymous and Joe Catholic who come to this site for who knows what reason, and spew their views at those of us who enjoy reading John’s missives like we are a bunch of craven sinners b/c we don’t think like they do. It doesn’t seem to matter to them that few of us care about what they have to say, that we come to this site because we like John P and his writings. So please, take your keyboard and remove us. Leave us alone.
So…. I have to ask….
Would you let someone who has no medical experience perform your next operation?
Please.
You speak of inclusion, yet you show support for a woman that has no problem going on national television, during a presidential debate and graphically describing crushing a 9 month old baby’s skull? What of all those children that don’t have a voice yet? Should they be excluded from life because you have a ’cause” you’re behind? You people really need to examine this, me, me, me attitude, and seriously start thinking of others. Perhaps the reason you see so much bigotry isn’t because Donald Trump is a bigot, but perhaps you see a little of yourself in him.
She did not do that. Rewatch the video of the debate where that issue came up. Donald Trump is the one who began describing those so-called “nine-month abortions.” After the debate, doctors came out in droves to say how no skulls are crushed, no babies dismembered as Trump suggested. That’s a scare tactic. Sometimes health issues for the mother and child require an intervention in the final month, but that is rare. Really, rewatch the debate.
Whine, whine, whine. If the shoe was on the other foot, you’d be gloating all day long, asking for us all to come together. Take some of your own advice. Grow up, accept adulthood, and move on. It will make us all stronger together.
Thank you for expressing this so eloquently. It is about sanctioning hate and bullying. Saying it is okay to belittle and suppress anyone who isn’t white, male, Christian. Those who have existed on the edge of civility now feel carte blanche to behave anyway they choose.
“So yeah, be upset for as long as you want. Get drunk. Do whatever you have to do. After that, I want you to sober up, splash water on your face, and consider some facts.
Gay marriage has overwhelming support nationwide — 55 percent to 37 percent against.
Legal abortion is favored by 56 percent, with 41 percent opposed.
The vast majority of the population supports background checks for gun buyers — up to 90 percent in some polls.
A majority of Americans support some kind of universal health care, 58 percent to 37 percent.
64 percent of Americans are worried about global warming. Only 36 percent are not.
And — get this — Americans overwhelmingly agree that immigration helps the country more than it hurts, by a 59 percent to 33 percent margin.”
This was ganked from an article on Cracked by David Wong
Goodness hung from the thick limb
tossing to and fro
pale as linen on the line
the creaking tree
echoed across the grove
but no one nearby cried.
smiles erupted below
on faces forever dimmed
by night shadows
full of cheer as if now freed
to be the killer of God.
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Thank you for this post. I am grieving. For a lot of things, many of which didn’t have anything to do with Trump personally.
This country just voted, in the guise of wanting to “make a change” and “shake things up” to kick sand in the face of a lot of our population. Based on anger and fear.
Making decisions based on anger and fear often turns out poorly. Unfortunately, all of us who made a different decision based on other issues will suffer when the anger and fear that have driven this campaign comes home to roost for our nation.
And that I grieve for most of all.
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This is simply not true. I was one of the last to jump aboard the Trump train. Only when it became obvious that it was him or Hillary did he gain my support. I voted for Trump because he is not Hillary. I voted for him because he is not part of the reason four Americans were slaughtered in Benghazi. He does not support the murder of innocent children. He knows the significance of the letter “C”. I voted for Trump because if anyone is going to reverse the economical demolition Obama has inflicted on this country, it will be him, not Obama’s side kick. My vote was not cast for a candidate because I am a racist and he is a rich older white man. It was cast for the last best hope for my children to grow up in the same America I grew up in. An America governed by the people, an America that allows us to keep the freedoms blessed upon us by our constitution without threat of the government taking them away. I’m so tired of people who preach acceptance and equality, yet call you a racist or a bigot when you disagree with them. Liberals have had ample opportunity to do great things for our nation, and they failed. Now it’s time we take back our country and make it as great as it has the potential to be. God bless President Elect Trump and God bless America!
Thank you for writing this. I truly cannot fathom how Christians could vote for Trump. His behavior is reprehensible and unjustifiable, and it’s ignorant to think that narcissist Trump will stand for anything other than his own best interests. His history is the best predictor of his future behavior… Shame on America.
It’s important to realize it wasn’t half the nation that elected him. More like around 25-30%. Then another 25-30 voted against him. And most of the rest stood by and did nothing.
Why are you all so sure how Trump being elected will effect the country? Regardless of his personal beliefs he hasn’t as much power as people believe he has. He especially doesn’t have as much power as he believe he has. I am taking a wait and see approach. So far his election has helped push people who had chosen not to use their voice to speak up. Sometimes we need a punch to the gut to learn how to fight back.
I think the massive voter turn out showed exactly how the people used their voices. Sadly, two horrible choices breeds a horrible victor, and that is what we now have. Congratulations, democrats, and thanks. Really.
Blame the democrats. They shoved her up our collective asses, and she was absolutely the wrong candidate. If Bernie were on the ticket, or the media had given the 3rd party candidates some air time, we’d all not be running around waiting for the sky to fall. Americans wanted change, and that change sat firmly in the hands of Sanders, Trump, Stein (maybe), and Johnson (absolutely). Take the next four years to study up on how this all went so shit-fire wrong, and begin with the democratic party. Of course they are grieving. They absolutely should be.
You wrote a beautiful explanation, it’s exactly how I feel. Thank You! I have shared it on FB.
Thank you for this, beautifully said, and all too true. Today I weep, tomorrow I will still be weeping. I’m afraid of where we will be a month from now.
I’ll have what he’s drinking…
WAAAAAHHHHHH!!! Things aren’t going my way so everyone else is wrong!! Boo-Fricking-Hoo!!! So it up and put on your big boy pants. No more freebies or handouts! you want something work for it! The majority has spoken now deal with it! I didn’t want Obama in Office but he was and I never bitched (on social media) or cried about it. Toughen up ya pansy!!
Hillary supporters believe in a diverse America; one where religion or skin color or sexual orientation or place of birth aren’t liabilities or deficiencies or moral defects. Her campaign was one of inclusion and connection and interdependency. It was about building bridges and breaking ceilings. It was about going high.
The issue isn’t that Trump supporters don’t share this vision. The issue is that you believe what the media tells you to believe. I voted Trump because the Clintons have no integrity. I would have voted for Allen West or Collen Powell to be our first black president eight years ago. I would have voted for a conservative woman this time. But we were not given that option. Trump may not be perfect but he is a damn sight better than any available alternative.
Yeah. Keep telling yourself that.
I appreciated reading this. I cried last night and when someone asked why, I said I wasn’t upset Hillary lost, I was devastated that so many people won’t feel welcome in this new version of America and so many other people didn’t seem to care about that outcome. That’s painful.
Nailed it. You put into words what I have been feeling. Sadness at the hatred all around.
Thank you for putting this feeling of overwhelming sorrow into words.
Oh, Hogwash! This article is complete nonsense, good lord. Give me a break……. Smdh……
Very well said. Can’t disagree with anything you said; it certainly helped me understand my own feelings today. But, with that said, we MUST put this all behind us and find a way to come together in peace and harmony to save our great nation from further destruction!
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People don’t realize that Trump ran against his party, against the opposition, against the media and against the entire establishment, and was victorious. He walks into the Whitehouse without owing anyone a damn thing! No favors, no exchanges, nothing that someone can say “I put you in the Whitehouse so you owe me” He did it on his own and against all odds. When was the last time we said that about any of our presidents?
John, thank you for speaking out for many who don’t have the courage to. Thank you for being the most “Christ-like” pastor I have heard speak in my life. I went to a Christian school k-12, and religion was shoved down my throat. I wanted (want) nothing to do with it since. I have found many Christians living in complete hypocrisy. Christianity, along with other religions are founded on the basis of love. And while many would argue that religion has no place in politics, what does matter is love, kindness and patience. The disconnect within our country is misunderstanding and lack of patience with one other in our own walks in life. So I applaud you, and I thank you for giving hope that there is good in religion, and that there is love in the world that is truly unconditional. I thank you for saying the hard things, even when being ridiculed by “your own people “. Thank you for allowing America to grieve. Thank you for speaking so eloquently about raw emotions that over half of our country is feeling. Thank you for not spreading hatred or anger, but continually trying to spread love.
And if we can’t be kind to one another in a forum how can we be kind in person? If we really want to make a difference why not work together to be better regardless of who we elect to “run” the country? We all still have to live together. Let kindness prevail because bitterness can’t.
I think your wrong. I think that this isn’t about all the things you listed. See, that is what the media WANTS you to believe. All the extreme liberals want to you to think that Trump represents the death of progress and tolerance and that everyone who voted for him are declaring their contempt for progress and tolerance as well. But that is simply not true. I believe the reason the majority of this country voted for Trump is not because they side with the extremist conservatives, but because after eight years of Obama’s reign their lives still haven’t improved. Something so historic about this election was that so many blue-collared people voted for a republican instead of a democrat. It all accounts to the fact that people still don’t have jobs. Obama couldn’t give them that, so they gave their vote in desperation hoping that someone so different than Obama, and even George W. Bush because Trump isn’t even a politician, could help them. This is so shocking to liberals because they have been fed for eight years that Obama was doing a great job. When in reality, his work was barely mediocre. There is a whole section of America that has been suffering since the great recession and Obama couldn’t help them so they’re trying something different in hope that Trump can give them the change they need. That is ultimatley what it comes down to. Honestly most people don’t really care about the rights of LGBTQ community and minorities and religious groups. By that I mean there fine with whatever happens, most people arent opposed to civil rights for everyone. They just care so much more deeply about what happens to their own families, how there going to put food on the table, which should be their top priority. So don’t htink that this is about the death of civil rights and justice because its not. Its just that the liberal democrats in my opinion are so consumed with progress and helping the unrepresented that they forgot about all the people who are truly suffering in this country.
I think it’s really easy for people to comment and say “Trump will bring America together again.” but the reality is that unless you’re white, male and Christian, you aren’t wanted in America. When Marriage equality is repealed and our partners no longer get medical coverage, explain to me how that will bring the LGBT folks together into America? When the NSA begins spying on anyone of middle eastern heritage and every word spoken is up for interpretation of intent to commit a crime, how will those people feel like they are part of America? No, Trump will bring white, Christian America together (he already has) but he will do nothing to bring the entire country together. And he’s given no indication that he will. His running mate wants to take money away from HIV treatment and give it to conversion therapy for gays instead. So we get to start dying of AIDS because we can’t get medication and we can start committing suicide at the hands of conversion “therapists”, but we’re going to be happy about it and feel like a part of America? I don’t see it and if you honestly think that he’ll bring the most vulnerable among us together, then you’re looking at the world through rose colored glasses.
I’m hopeful when you have grieved sufficiently you will put equal energy, or more, to share your strong guiding light on some solutions. Blessings always. Robyn
This is such a crappy polarizing article. Your argument is tired and worn out. The republican party is no longer your grandfathers party.
I guess you from got about this.
https://youtu.be/lSVLpzGseXw
This is such a crappy polarizing article. Your argument is tired and worn out. The republican party is no longer your grandfathers party.
I guess you for got about this.
https://youtu.be/lSVLpzGseXw
I’m a registered Democrat who voted for Donald Trump. I literally felt nauseous when thinking about four years under Hillary Clinton. Putting aside his indecencies and bravado, Donald Trump was saying things that much of middle America has needed to hear for decades: borders, immigration, ghettoes and so on. I’ve been so tired of the corruption in our government. You cannot imagine how happy I am today, knowing that perhaps before I die, I’ll once again see the America of my youth. With her, I would just be in despair.
John –
Well written and opinion filled. As with most opinion pieces on this topic, the generalizations and gross misrepresentations of the “other side” are in proper abundance. The shame of this election is that both candidates were deeply flawed and neither deserving. I recall feeling the same emotional reaction when Obama won and again when he was re-elected. When I see people weeping, or wondering “how can I possibly explain this to my kids”, It makes me wonder just how out of touch these people are with reality. Dust yourself off democrats, you will be back. In the meantime both side need to take a break from the name calling and stereotyping.
Thank you for writing this and for dealing kindly with the disagreements you’re already receiving here.
This is the time when our true strength will be tested and our faith in the goodness inherent in us all may waver if we do not remember that as in all things, this too shall pass. We must uphold our ideals and live by our ethics to make sure we continue to protect those who need it the most.
We must rechannel whatever anger or fear we have into doing good works and loving our fellow man. I hope for the strength to do that.
Thank you. This so eloquently explains why so many of us sat up to the wee hours last night praying for a Hail Mary play at the end of the count that would change the looming sense of horror we felt. I went to sleep at almost three o’clock in the morning with an overwhelming feeling of bewilderment, the one thought running through my head over and over, “I thought we were better than this”.
I voted for Hillary not bc I loved her but bc I couldnt imagine Donald being president. But what’s done is done. Let’s now unite and be positive and spread positivity, that’s all we have.
And another thing, I knew many who voted for Donald, not bc they necessarily liked him but bc they truly wanted a change from our corrupt government. In my opinion that change wasn’t going to come from someone like Donald, but many of those voters are hopeful and positive and don’t embody the crassness of Donald, they wanted change however they were going to get it.
Let yourself grieve. We’ve experienced a massive loss, literally and figuratively. It hurts. It hurts horribly. Weep.
Then, breathe.
Breathe in the fresh air of a new day and a renewed vigor to push forward. Breathe in the possibilities of democracy and freedom and the adventure, trials and tribulations that await us. We know our path. It is not easy but we will travel down it.
Think.
Think about who we are today, now. Realize what we’ve created. A mighty force for good, for compassion, a willingness to not tolerate hate and bigotry and misogyny. That can not end.
Stand Up.
We will not go quietly into that good night. We will rise. We will step forward. We will hold this new President accountable for the ideals we believe. We will not allow anyone to marginalize this force. History must be made. If not today, then tomorrow or the day after or years from now. But each day we will try. Susan B. Anthony dedicated her life to women’s right to vote but died before a single women voted. These are lifelong struggles worth pledging our lives to, if not for ourselves then for our children and their children.
Represent.
Show up. Be present. Make our voices heard. Make our dollars count. We will not tolerate hate. We will march. We will sit down and sit in. We will unite. We will be visible. We will not allow walls to be built, Planned Parenthood to close, women to be paid unequally, the disabled to be bullied, the downtrodden to be kicked, the captured to be less than heroic, immigrants to be harassed, our fallen to be demeaned, a religion to be condemned, our allies to suffer. We will rise.
Love.
Our driving force. Love. For each other, for this nation, for humanity, or the promise we can build together. Even love for those who don’t think like we do.
And finally, hold true.
We can do this together if we hold true to one another, to what we believe, to what we dream, to what matters in our hearts. We hold true to our beliefs that this country, our country, is and can be the greatest nation for ALL. And to do that we must reach out to one another….
Yes it hurts today and tomorrow and will do so for a long time. The future feels bleary-eyed and frightening.
But It’s okay. Take my hand, we can and will do this together.
I don’t think you understand us right now. I think you think that this all just about politics, but it is not. The truth is that I don’t believe that Trump is who you think he is and your opinion of who he is, is just that an opinion.
For me this election was about protecting the government from corruption and scandals. Let’s start with corruption, under Obama. 1) IRS Targeted conservative groups and not one person had charges brought against them. DOJ and the executive branch protected them which is unbelievable. 2) Clinton Pay for play where there is clear proof that her family directly benefited from selling access to the state department for financial gain. 3) Setting up a private server that shrouded her from FOIA requests and most likely released top secret information to foreign governments. 4) DOJ warned Clintons before filings took place on her email scandal. DOJ protecting her from pay to play. 5) AHA was an unfavorable disaster from conception that was forced down the American people’s throat. Reform for the sake of reform does not make it good change. It must be either reversed or fixed but we can’t trust those who wrote it and passed it to correct it.
I believe that the corrupt Democrats are taking advantage of the good heart felt American’s that want more for the people. The fact is there is not any evidence that supports the claim that the democratic elite is supporting what you have been voting for in fact on the Clinton’s part it is the contrary. For instance, let’s look at the evidence: 1) Hillary was a “Goldwater girl” Goldwater was a politician that did not support the civil rights movement. 2) Hillary called groups of African American’s Super Predators and said “we have to bring them to heal.” Now imagine that quote every time a BLM movement took place. Malcom Brown “we have to bring them to heal”, Alton Sterling “we have to bring them to heal”, etc.. The truth of the matter here is you openly support one of the most racist candidates of all time. She tells you what you want to hear only to profit behind the scenes and do other things than what she promises.
In 2005 Hillary said, “I am adamantly against illegal immigrants.” She also, as a Senator, voted to construct a wall between the US and Mexico. Considering the main “proof” of Trump’s racism is that he opposes illegal immigration and wants to build a wall, isn’t it odd that Hillary gets off for having said the same thing?
In 2002, Clinton was asked by Chris Matthews of MSNBC, “Do you think New York State should recognize gay marriage?” Clinton’s answer: “No.” In 2004, as New York senator, she said: “I believe that marriage is not just a bond, but a sacred bond between a man and a woman.”
As a senator in 2004, she said: “I think on balance, NAFTA has been good for New York and America.” In her unsuccessful primary battle against then Senator Barack Obama in 2008, she said she was one of the voices within Bill Clinton’s administration “warning about NAFTA.”
In 2014, Clinton discussed the influx of children from Central America illegally crossing into the U.S. with Christiane Amanpour of CNN. She said: “We have to send a clear message that just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean your child gets to stay.” But in an MSNBC/Telemondo Town Hall in February, Jose Diaz-Balart asked if those children should be treated like a message. “Well,” Clinton said, “the children themselves need to be taken care of. They are children. They should be given every help that we can.”
You are being manipulated.
So, you’re saying you would rather have a career criminal who’s been investigated by the FBI (twice) and committed perjury hold the highest office in our nation. Got it.
Hillary’s position on partial birth abortion energized the religious right. People understand that there is never a legitimate excuse for a late term abortion. The doctor could always do a Caesarean if the mother’s life was in danger. If you want to be on the right side of history, the Democratic party needs to drop this from their platform. Future generations will look on this as we now look back on slavery. Facing possibly several Supreme Court nominations in the next four years, the religious right voted for the lesser of two evils.
Your article is superb but I fear exceeds the thinking capabilities of too many in this country. What I have learned is that masses of Americans are poorly educated and have simple minds capable only of seeing a singular point of view or maybe two. They are not capable of understanding an entire picture. Many seem to love to hate; what a sad statement. Many love immorality and vulgarity. Others love to be children while their bodies reveal that they should have adult mentalities (but they don’t). I’ve seen so many trying to boil it all down to one or two points and those points are expressed with hate, or divisiveness or childish comments that tell us they haven’t developed their minds fully yet. This isn’t about politics. It is about saying – sure, let’s be vulgar, crass and let’s definitely not look at an entire picture. Let’s go out for recess and leave our minds behind, and our hearts even further behind. It’s about saying – I don’t want to be good; I choose to be bad, to love evil, to hate love. To hate. To support hate. To wave hate in the air as a banner. This isn’t about politics. It’s about one narcissistic individual playing the countryfolks for fools and succeeding, just as Hitler succeeded, in tellign the world only one human on the planet matters – himself. People who use broad, intelligent thinking see that and know that. This isn’t about politics. It’s about being the nastiest bully on the playground and refusing to grow up. There are so many problems with this picture and it disheartens good people to see evil as the forefront image within it. Evil. For no other word better describes this. Thank you for your article. The blind will never see the words for their truth because they have chosen to keep their seeing behind a veil of arrogant lies. It’s a sad day. This isn’t democracy now. The great America just lost it’s greatness. Much of what will be lost in the upcoming future will, sadly, be lost forever.
lol. Don’t be such a sore loser. What does it say about your candidate that she lost to such a deplorable human being?
lol. Don’t be such a sore loser. What does it say about your candidate that she lost to such a deplorable human being?
Thanks for writing this John Pavlovitz ❤️ As a woman though, I do disagree with your statement that we are not grieving because our candidate lost. To me, the fact that our country chose the man you describe over a woman (albeit not a perfect woman, but what politician is?) is absolutely, utterly devastating. I never really agreed with feminists that there is much sexism around, but this election (and everything she went through over the past number of months) has made me realize how young and naive I was.
As much as I am grieving for this new reality we have with our president-elect, I am grieving the brutal, hurtful slap-in-the-face America just gave its women.
My Nat’l Organization for Women chapter received this email today from a Trump supporter; it supports why you are grieving. Misogyny is alive and well in America: “It was fun last night watching the apoplective reactions of all the female h supporters, including all the MSM news anchors. The exact reason why (emotional creatures) women should never be given important positions of responsibility. I would never have wanted one in my foxhole, or as a patrol partner to be depended upon. This picture speaks volumes…but of course liberals don’t understand.
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1478706924320.png “
Thank you for this.
Words matter. Waking up this morning to an angry 13 year-old who heard the mean things Trump said about women, minorities, disabled, and the fear and anger he incited in his followers with her own 2 ears. Had the younger daughter crying that her mean friends who chanted lock her up were actually going to hurt the losing candidate based on his own speeches and words.
Hard to talk to your daughters that they can do anything men can do…except president. That sexism is strong and validated as a way to treat women in what our country elected to its highest office.
Makes you want to hide away in the closet with all of the Halloween chocolate and cry…and cry….and cry.
This is not my circus.
These are not my monkeys.
Paul Inberea: the Counties may have voted for Trump. But the people voted for Hillary. She won the popular vote. It may not matter as far as what gets you elected as President (right now, anyway), but it matters.
This is the purest definition of “sour apples”. Claiming that “Hillary supporters believe in a diverse America; one where religion or skin color or sexual orientation or place of birth aren’t liabilities or deficiencies or moral defects.” Claiming that EVERY supporter of Hillary did so for the same reasons as you is myopic. I know plenty of Hillary supporters that don’t agree with LGBT rights, a women’s right to choose, or Hillary’s ideas on immigration but voted for her just the same. I also know many Trump supporters that are not bullies, rapists, racist, or looking to destroy “your” vision of America. Funny, you don’t want those close to you stereotyped as thugs and rapists but are quick to lump ALL that did not support your candidate as people looking to destroy all that is good in the world. Get over yourself!
If you really need a president to make you happy, you’re in denial of all of your problems that a president can’t fix. You need to start learning to be honest with yourself, it’s good you’re acknowledging that you have emotions, but now be honest with everything that causes these emotions, primarily you not dealing with the past. The future can’t hurt you, the present does in combination of the past, where the pain of the past compounds the pain of the present. You conquer fear by overcoming the past and become stronger from it, now grow up and stop being a child.
http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Honest-with-Yourself
So go back and read all your comments. Are you really any better than the 2 candidates that you’re arguing about? Come on people…are you really going to let this divide us? If you say you thought we were better than this then prove it. Rise above an election and be human to each other.
Thank you for putting into words what I could not express myself. I have cried for the better part of the last 24 hours. It has been an uncontrollable reaction that I could not stop. This is beyond anything I have felt in any previous election. Your writing has given me a frame for my feelings, and a way to begin to process and recover.
Thank you for this comment. I could have written it myself, because it is my feeling exactly. My eyes are currently nearly swollen shut, and I’m struggling to just function today. I am grieving, and I am terrified.
And to the commenters who are saying horrible, hostile things to this writer — shame on you. You are part of the problem.
Thank you. I also grieve because I cannot bear my anger so much I fear I will choose hopelessness. And I’m alienated not just by the right wing but the left – people I care about who so soon are blaming the DNC which is salt in my wound and just stupid. Sadly, the left has always foolishly preferred division among themselves to actually being productive. Every predator and racist will be emboldened by this presidency which I will never accept. The right wing has successfully worked for decades to take over and now its done. We had a weak democracy. Now we have a failed one. Climate change will rapidly become climate catastrophe. Our European friends can no longer count on us and they need that with Putin and Isis at their door. Anyone with a cancer diagnosis – America just said your life doesn’t matter. Black, muslim – I will speak out for you. But I’m a woman – my voice is not worth a man’s. American has spoken.
The fact is many good people voted for Trump. Not racist, not bigots, not bullies – but people that wanted someone other than a career “Politician” in office. A lot of the Americans that put Obama in office – voted for Trump. The Americans that lived here last week – are the same ones here today. Americans have not changed. So many Americans need health care reform – NOT OBAMACARE, enough to make a stand in the election? So many Americans want immigration reform – enough to make a stand in the election. Americans are obsesses and influenced by the media, Hollywood, and have come to realize that every politician lies and tells us what we want to hear – and delivers nothing. I think Trump may be what this country needs to come together – make changes in how government works – or at least he’s thrown a huge spanner in the works. Trump is human – he apologized for his bad behavior – he’s far from perfect. Hillary lied to the public. People just don’t trust her. From Benghazi, to emails to voter fraud – she had to many lies to cover up. She never answers a question straight. It’s all the same old BS they’ve been given time and time again! Americans are looking for something real – something they can connect to… is it Trump? Well I guess it wasn’t Hillary. He was the lesser of two evils according to America. America doesn’t want a “GOD” to look up to – they want someone like themselves, someone who seems to care about people and the country – whether or not you have the same beliefs, is irrelevant. Not a fake replica of every other president.
Trump may not be an upstanding model, but look at America – he represents them – he’s one of them. Not someone on some high pedestal. America is full of people with many beliefs, and hopefully good things can come from this election.
Many of you miss the point, you’re still taking about politics. That’s not it. It cannot be explained more clearly or eloquently. Reread the article.
Can you be any more self centered and lacking in perspective? Do you really think you are the only person to despair after an election? That’s what half the country did after Obama’s election and reelection.
You aren’t special. Your political views aren’t unique or more enlightened than others. You aren’t entitled to some super special treatment or consideration because your candidate lost. So for the love of God, please grow up and act like a man.
Stop lumping everyone that did not vote for Hillary into the same category. Did you think for a second that we are sick of the Clintons and what they represent? Did you think for a second that we are sick of the Governments overreach into our lives? Or the lawlessness of the previous 8 years?
This shows an opinion based on the lie that was put forth by a biased media. Those who voted for Trump had various reasons for doing so. In part, it was a vote against Hillary Clinton. She has shown time after time that she is not to be trusted and even many Democrats dislike her and what she personally represents. This election result has to do with the many Americans who are tired of politicians and the fact that certain families have been in power for far too long without following through with what they promise. It is about feeling sickened by a candidate who supports partial birth abortion. It is about the platform presented by both candidates and agreeing more with one versus the other. If those who supported Hillary can jump to conclusions regarding those who voted for Trump, they would have to accept that if Hillary had won, her detractors would degrade any who voted for her. I have friends who did support Hillary and I don’t believe any would agree with every issue she supported or be happy with all of the things she has said or done. I certainly would not feel they should be blamed for everything she has said or done. That would make no sense.
I totally disagree! This is the perception liberal media would love you to believe! Without really knowing how things will go from here, you’re in such despair? Why? Maybe liberal media isn’t right! How dare you give such degrading reasons and assume that’s why I voted for Trump. Did you see there wasn’t much of a choice? All those magical things you claim about Hillary is not how she led her life. You voted for pie-in-the-sky? What Hillary does and what she says do not coincide very often. I am a woman, and I want a woman in the white house sometime! But when it happens, I hope it will be a woman of principle, a true woman I can follow and that the whole nation will want to follow! Are you even interested in why I voted for Trump? I voted for the hope more jobs! I voted for relief for my friends who can’t afford “Affordable Health Care,” and have to pay a fine because they can’t afford insurance! I voted for someone to put a stop to the debt that has sky-rocketed to outer space. I voted for someone to help people off welfare so they’re not enslaved and stuck in their poverty. I voted for someone whose former employees don’t turn up dead around the next corner! I voted for someone who cares about veterans! I voted for someone who seems to care about the safety of America! I voted for someone who values family! I voted for someone who values my religious choices. I voted for someone who cares about an unborn yet viable child! I voted for someone whose actions in life have proven to care for others! I also voted for a clown. I did not vote for the reasons you listed. Not many would! And what I did not vote for is the greedy and calculating woman who seems to care little for what I hold dear! I would have preferred to vote for someone else, but Trump was the best I could find!
seriously? why “we” grieve today? This touchy feely crap is going to be the demise of America. I saw one article on how to discuss with your children the results of the election. Are you kidding me? This is life! There are winners and there are losers, but sitting a six year old down to talk politics is not reality! And counseling? In schools? Because of the newly elected President? THIS IS NOT NORMAL PEOPLE !!! You have all bought into every single hate mantra spewed by your political pundits, two faced politicians and so called celebrity’s – each and every one of you needs to sit down and reflect on why you are assholes.
Really, that’s why we grieve??? I find it amazing that you didn’t mention what an upstanding citizen Killary is. She has lied, cheated, stole, sold out our country, put our security at risk with her basement server…. Should I go on?? Yeah, she only has our best interests at heart… Her only concern has always been power and money and gaining more of both. I’m not even going to bring up what good ol Bill has done… Oh yeah, he is all about women… I guess all the buffoonery that the Clinton Crime Family has committed is OK because they did in the name of including everyone… You are an Idiot and don’t have a clue how the country should be run… I guess our resources are unlimited and should just be given to anyone that shows up…. Sorry, if this makes you grieve and cry more… Grow up…
That must be because your presidential candidate lost last night…LOL!!! (Y)
First off, I voted for Hillary and am in no way a fan of the Donald.
That said, when Donald Trump stood on the podium and called Mexicans and other Latinos Rapists, Murderers and Criminals I was shocked, and saddened. Most of the people crossing our border are simply looking for a better life for themselves and their children. Many of them are fleeing horrendous poverty and crime.
At the same time though, there are Hillary’s supporters who have no problem calling people living in the Rust Belt, bigots, racists, and misogynists. These were people who saw their jobs dissapear. They were union workers who’d voted Democrat for 40 years. All these people wanted was a decent paying job, safety for their family, and a for their kids to grow up, go to college without backbreaking debt, and start a family of their own.
They were the people who provided President Obama his overwhelming victory and were the main cause of Hillary’s massive defeat. These were the Liberals villains this time around. Our own people. The establishment, the media, and the Hillbots were like Saturn eating its children.
I will admit, I was a Sanders supporter. I too was excited by the prospect of a Woman President. Oh well…
Really good points. However.
Trump is a guy who speaks before he has his brain fully in gear. If you were paying attention towards the end of the campaign, you saw him start to change. And his acceptance speech was promising. He has some good people around him, and he is learning to listen to them. Ronald Reagan was much the same kind of a person; but he learned to listen to experts and act accordingly. What we need now is, instead of crying the blues, is communication with the new President. Email him. Text him. Let him know of your concerns.
Personally, I watched with horror during the entire debacle. I would not have chosen EITHER person to be the standard bearer for their respective party. I am looking forward with hope. Whatever you want to say about Donald, and a lot of people HAVE said it, he is NOT stupid. And he wants results. Let’s see what happens in the first 100 days. If he tries to institute any of the stupid things he raved about during the campaign, that’s why the constitution has an impeachment clause.
Mostly men on here who are telling you you’re wrong, who aren’t able to admit their own privilege. Women can understand, they know what it means to be disrespected for being born a certain gender. I weep for the vulnerable who suffer for this. For the 20 million who will lose healthcare. For those who are being told they are less than human by the ideals this man expresses. I’m so sorry
Thank you for heartfelt words, worth rereading carefully.
Do be careful not to see those who believe different through the filter of their contrast to yourself; doing so classifies them as embracing the deplorable, always. No one always fits in that kind of box.
Everyone likes to think of themselves as heroes in their own stories, and tends to build their worldview compatible with that. When meeting others with radically different worldviews that I find abhorrent, I like to keep that in mind, and sometimes I find that we share compatible ideals, even when I think they’ve done the wrong thing thereby.
Lets frame a ‘discussion’ around person A’s good qualities and B’s bad qualities and that is the only thing about them, at all. People who like B then instantly hate A’s good qualities and only like B’s bad qualities. Then lets bash people B and say A is right. Good discussion, glad we are being honest here and not fueling problems.
“Good discussion”
Actually, it is — whenever they go low with whatever intolerance they were raised in or heard on the radio or whatever, it gives all of us an opportunity for new directions of understanding, even if they are caught up in their fear-based hate and can’t hear it. Saddening somewhat, but that’s the struggle.
So many clear examples on this thread.
To some it is about politics, Ms Clinton says a lot of good things about how we should behave. She also is full of herself, and strong armed the political system against Bernie Sanders, and financially bettered herself through her foundation with money from America hating governments, she is white privileged with expensive clothing and lavash events (her daughters wedding). 8 years of Obama and inner city youth are still killing each other(South Chicago) and Flint can’t drink tap water and that’s politics whether you admit it or not
Drama queen. You chose to support a candidate who had to cheat to beat a 75-year-old hardcore Socialist and who then lost in the general election to a man who’s never before held public office.
You don’t get it, you clearly never did and you probably never will. Look in the mirror. That’s where you should focus your grief.
Instead of bleating the same tired old bromides, how about offering some concrete proof of what you say? Hillary is about dividing the country into little segments and pitting them against each other. See BLM when the policies of democrats keep the blacks uneducated, very poor and dependent on government. She is a grievance monger pandering to the masses. Crassness and vulgarity towards women? You did hear what her husband did and how she tormented those women. Weaponize religion? You mean like arming radical muslims like ISIS? And about the gays, my brother is gay and he told me Hillary has lost a lot of support from gays because she supports the very people that want to kill the gays. He is like me, a straight white male Christian, someone who judges people by the content of their character and not by how they look. Get over yourself.
It’s a Set- Up!
Get ready to depend on God more than ever-
God can use a rock, a donkey, even a duck-
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This article expresses my feelings better than I can! Thank you!
Good lord, dude. You’re over-thinking this and your fear is unflattering, unfounded, and contagious.
Trump may well prove an inadequate leader. We’ll see. But put down the bottle or the crack pipe…things will be just fine.
The Constitution is a strong and enduring document. It is bigger than even the POTUS. It will absorb an injury and rebound with vigor.
What your blog shows is a fundamental misunderstanding of prominent grievances that propelled Trump to the presidency. Namely that personal responsibility has been usurped on the left by narcissism, faux outrage and a belief that bad outcomes are always someone else’s fault. What a childish and ultimately destructive mindset.
Additionally that prohibitions on free speech do not indicate an aim toward kindness, but instead that of tyranny. And that an inability to absorb criticism, insult, or even slur, is a mark of weakness not strength. Self-esteem is not enhanced by shielding oneself from those who disagree or are boorish, under the specious auspices of “inclusiveness”. Get your feelings hurt. Disregard those whose views you find aberrant, and simply move on. Don’t cry discrimination, or hostile environments, or issue trigger warnings, or decry micro-aggressions, or any other of the myriad contemporary nonsense of the modern self-proclaimed “enlightened” liberal. Just be a man(or a woman if you prefer)and soldier on.
And finally(though this list is not at all comprehensive)…That tolerance of others is not necessarily akin to being inclined to absorb their ways and customs. It’s ok to dislike a person’s culture and customs. It really is. It’s ok to prefer to be around like minded folk who share similar values, religious beliefs, and/or customs. In fact, we see examples every day in our churches, our clubs, our pot-lucks, our neighborhood BBQ’s…indeed our friends. And these folks of similar mind are not at all compelled to be constrained to race, creed, orientation, or other.
Fear Trump if you must, and there is indeed uncertainty related to his ability to direct and enact policy, and even how his temperament may manifest in foreign policy. But you and those of like mind will disparage the folks who support him at your own political peril.
A beautiful summation of our loss and grief. Thank you for it.
I see a whole lot of my “democratic” friends who are stunned, shocked and in utter denial that they lost. You, the Democrats, passed on a true “liberal” candidate that I believe would have mopped the floor with Donald. Bernie would have disarmed the half of Donald’s platform that has left you in ruins (shrinking middle class, job exports, lack of political power and voice) and would have been true to your core beliefs and platform. The only skeletons in his closet were Halloween costumes. Both parties were moving towards a political revolution based on the core values they espoused and you REJECTED yours. Instead. you nominated a candidate that had national security issues, complicity in deaths at Benghazi, decades of trust issues and questionable financial issues that you KNEW would be a BIG problem. And on election day – the candidate that energized a country was at home in Vermont as were a whole lot of your luke-warm supporters, who could no more vote for Hillary than they could Donald. They stayed home or voted 3rd party because they saw what you knew – Hillary was a terminally FLAWED candidate. The country has chosen the unknown – instead of the “way to well known” and rejected the candidate you gave us as an alternative. This is not a validation of sexism, racism, disrespect or any of the other narratives you want to use to mask YOUR FAILURE . You HAD the candidate and you blew the call…
You knew all of this, you knew how this could very easily end and you have no one to blame but yourselves. So sit down, shut up and do better 4 years from now. God knows those of us that wanted no part of a Trump presidency either feel you screwed us pretty good by being so compliant in his eventual victory
This article pigeon-holed a huge section of people. That very fact detracts from the author’s credibility.
Using the logic showcased in this article, anyone who voted for Bill Clinton the second time, knowing full well he was a user and abuser of women, is all the hateful and horrible things cited above. Regardless of their cause, regardless of their reasoning while voting, the person they voted for overtly and covertly attacked women, admitted he lied, and ended up paying a huge sum of money to try to make it all go away.
That the author paints half the country with his harsh broad brush as racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, leaves his point of view and pointing finger shallow and hollow. There is a myriad of reasons people voted the way they did. There is no understanding in this writer. There is no gentle humanity. There is only accusation void of the fairness and the open mind he so requires of others. I give him no credence with his judge and jury acrid approach. Perhaps a conversation needs to be had, but not with this “go low” writer.
Thank you, Mr. Pavlovitz, for so beautifully putting to words the heaviness of my heart.
The people who read this and comment to the negative are just proof that this post is more than true. Why can we simply not live and let live? Why must we constantly berate and denounce someone for having a different opinion?
Thank you, John. You always seem to capture exactly how I feel in words that are so eloquent. I have cried all day and wondered what on earth was wrong with me. This post helped me to understand. So today we all grieve and tomorrow, we pick ourselves up and continue Christ’s works of love in our world.
It has been a long, long, time since I’ve read an article more skewed and more off-base. It’s true that perception is reality, but there is some central reality and truth that perception is based on and this author misses the mark entirely. It’s true that Democrats focus on humanity and mankind, but it’s this focus that was used against you. Hillary Clinton is a criminal of the worst ilk and will lie to you, me, and everyone to get what she wants. She’s a psychopath who knows no love but love of power and money for herself and she was using you to get it. Trump voters rose up against the corruption; not the principles you thought you were voting for.
As much as I dislike Trump as a human and everything that he stands for, we now have to give him a chance.
Trump has said that he will make America great again but at what cost to others (the rest of the world) and it will take years and years if at all.
Even though America (its no longer a United States) has decided to put themselves back 50 years, its the only way that they will appreciate that this resetting of the clock was a mistake and doomed to fail.
I hope that I and the rest of the educated world is wrong but with earths exponential rising population, dwindling resources and destitute masses, it may not even matter who is in the top chair as humanity implodes in the near future.
Good luck America. Continue to view the world from your internet fishbowl and rejoice in your counties and states that statistically 80% of you will never leave.
I was so eager to read this as I truly was struggling to understand why some people are so grief ridden today. I remember being very bummed in 2008 b/c “my” candidate didn’t win. But there was no crying or riots or protests. And then I was really bummed in 2012 when “my” candidate didn’t win. I felt like everything I held dear was being ridiculed. Still … no crying or riots or protests. So, after reading this article I have to say that I respectfully and whole heartedly disagree. Because it IS about two ways of looking at the world. That’s no secret. That’s why there have been two major parties all these years. It’s not fair, however to say that Trump supporters are all the things this article proclaims. (and not everyone who voted for Trump is a Trump supporter … but actually cannot get behind Hillary). Trump supporters are not necessarily selective. My vision of the world is not at all of fear, exclusion and isolation. It’s of hope, truth and life. I did not vote for Hillary only out of fear. Her dishonesty scares me. Her disregard for life scares me. The lives I view as the underdog, the marginalized, the voiceless. . But what gets me is the last few lines of this article. That’s the only time I want to cry. Because so many people have no hope because they’ve put their hope in a person or a party, a diet or routine, a spouse or a pastor or a friend or alcohol or money or exercise or whatever. And every single one of those people or things is going to disappoint. There IS joy in the morning. God’s promises ARE new every morning. If you are sad today, put your trust and your hope in the ONLY One that will not let you down. It’s Jesus Christ. Funny, I got to bible study today (which was taped awhile ago) and the message was “don’t look at the circumstance. look up”
I’m really sorry you are grieving John, but this article is inaccurate on so many levels. Trump got the vote from supporters who want change, who want to clean up our corrupt government, who want a president who will take this country in a new direction… and Hillary Clinton couldn’t support that change. Her corrupt campaign included biased analysts and a flawed mainstream media that wanted you to believe otherwise by bringing racism, sexism, religion, and ruthless accusations against Trump. People saw through that, and America voted. Now we get to listen to the liberals whine and complain because they can’t understand or accept the result.
So basically you were under the belief that no republican would ever be president again. That is a totally ridiculous thought.
I think there is misunderstanding across the board!…..I think Trump’s win has nothing to do with ” by golly! we want our white Christian America back” Most people I know could care less what you do in your home, what skin color you have or what kind of plumbing you have…I think people want to go to work and make a livable wage! I think people are tried of seeing their insurance rates go up and their earned income go down….and then when they can’t afford insurance anymore (irony) they are fined for it! I think people are tired of being told to sit down and shut up because we’re too stupid and too racist to have an opinion on anything. I think people are tired of being called racist, bigots, hate mongers, sexist….simply because they disagree. The ridicule has been steadily increasing for 8 years. People are tired of being made to feel as though they don’t matter…Liberals are partly to blame for this. You have bullied and bullied and shamed people into accepting everything that YOU believe in and any belief to the contrary MUST be sacrificed….like it or not. Tolerance for all….unless of course you’re white…a man… a Christian and Conservative, verdad? So you couldn’t be more wrong about what the issue is….I will quote some scripture also…..Matthew 7:5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
“Trump supporters believe in a very selective America; one that is largely white and straight and Christian, and the voting verified this. Donald Trump has never made any assertions otherwise. He ran a campaign of fear and exclusion and isolation—and that’s the vision of the world those who voted for him have endorsed.”
Your opening statement is utterly asinine. How can you simply lump together the way ALL trump supporters think and feel?
You sit there and are writing pure drivel. Your words written here just fuels the race bating narrative the progressive left keeps trying to push. Identity politics at its best.
You’re just pissed because a majority of people just elected a total outsider. The left just lost control over acquiring money and how they would spend it.
Try another angle on how we all feel today. It’s just not sticking. And we are all not grieving. Some of us actually feel good. The real grief here is how liberals just lost control and power, and are trying to pin it on Trump and his supporters by calling names.
Classic Alinsky tactics. You’re a fool. Identity politics and political correctness is swiftly coming to an end.
We grieve because there is a sense of betrayal to seemingly hard-won rights and protections. We grieve because it looks like fear and anger determined the election. Really? The point is that we are humans that care, and are affected. Don’t get on a soap box. The rest of the polar rhetoric, self-righteous crap needs to stop. Both sides can get off their horses. You and I, we need to talk about each other. Enough with the straw men everybody is propping up around both sides. It’s exhausting. There’s enough real people to deal with as it is.
Thank you to the author for this post and those who have posted their own stories or comments in support. It has been a relief to see that I am not alone in my feelings today. I have been struggling to understand and explain why my reaction to supporting the losing candidate has been so much stronger and different following this election than in those past. I did not realize that this event could trigger grief, but that, along with fear, is precisely what I am experiencing. I was raped just over 10 years ago and the events surrounding this election have reopened old wounds and I believe I am reliving the grief that followed being raped. I realize that it is difficult for those who have never felt discriminated or violated to understand this feeling of grief. If you would like suggestions for understanding and supporting friends or family who may be in a position similar to mine, I found this blog post to very helpful:
http://www.upworthy.com/im-a-sexual-assault-survivor-this-is-how-you-can-help-me-feel-safe-in-trumps-america?c=ufb1
what planet are you living on.? Trump never said nor did any of the things you are saying, the media manufactured outrage and blew up / distorted what was actually said. You’re all seriously a bunch of butt hurt crybabies that go picked last in dodge-ball. Seriously grow the F up, you’re what us American Trump voters couldn’t stand, a massive lump of whiny sniveling hurt feelings know-it-all know nothings. When obama was elected I was never more ashamed of my country and what it would become, now Trump is elected and I’ve never been more proud….
Excellent!
We went from class to ass over night
Eloquently stated and heartbreakingly true. Every word.
I cried with my daughter this morning. She is young and idealistic and hopeful. I wasn’t feeling so great myself, but she was devastated, shocked and angry. But I asked her to try to cast aside judgement and not to assume she knows what other people’s hearts hold.
I asked her to have compassion for people who felt that they had no choice but to vote for Trump. People who may be poor, uneducated, out of work, scared, forgotten, marginalized. People who feel that Trump is their answer and will be their strength. I disagree, but I will not belittle them for believing that. How can I? I don’t walk in their shoes. I had to cast aside my deep-seated disdain for HC to vote for her. Maybe if my life had taken a different path I would have had to cast aside my deep-seated disdain for DT and voted for him. If I felt my family’s survival counted on it, I would have in a heart beat.
Compassion and understanding are the only way through this.
As one whose husband works harder and gains less, one who LOST her affordable health care because of Obamacare, ones whose business declines because of unreasonable tax demands, one who is surrounded by a corrupt welfare system abused by neighbors on every side (and yes, we qualify but choose WORK over welfare), one who loves others and gives freely, yes, I voted for Trump. More of the same was going to run our country into the ground, NOT build it up. I don’t agree with everything Trump stands for and I don’t even like him as a person. BUT what Hillary was offering was going to kill what is left of America and what she was founded on. Obama divided this country…HE has been the ultimate racist. Notice Trump said nothing of the sort of “You’re in the back seat now.” Unify America. Promote the good. Quit your crying and get out there and love on some people. That is what will change your heart of sorrow.
A very moving article, John. Well done. Poetry.
The Cliff’s Notes of it:
“We grieve because we projected our own bullying and bigotry onto Trump so long that we actually convinced ourselves, but nobody else bought it!”
A very moving article, John. Well done. Poetry.
The Cliff’s Notes of it:
“We grieve because we projected our own bullying and bigotry onto Trump so long that we actually convinced ourselves, but nobody else bought it!“
LMAOOOOO!!!
Hillary Clinton is arguably THE MOST CORRUPT career politician who has ever run for president of the United States. It’s like you guys just don’t give a crap about that, it’s like you just have to keep saying “racism,” “misogyny,” “white privilege,” etc., until everyone around you wishes they were dead. This IS about “losing a contest” and you lost because you put your money on a sure loser.
The only reasons Hillary Clinton had a ghost of a chance of winning are:
1. Backed by gobs and gobs of cash from foreign backers, and
2. Cheating.
That’s it.
The next eight years will be good for you, too, once you stop with the whining and extrapolating and get busy with your life. You’ll see.
I am not a Trump voter, but I know many of them, and I think you have it wrong.
In my experience, most people who voted for Trump are aware of all his faults. They do not support those faults, and would prefer to vote for someone else.
However, they have looked at Hillary Clinton, and they see a person who has violated national security rules (the e-mails), has enriched herself greatly through her offices (huge speaking fees, including to Wall Street banks), has cheated Bernie Sanders (the situation with Donna Brazile), and has called them and their friends “deplorable”.
They have, for these and other reasons, concluded that Hillary Clinton was an unacceptable option, and she had to be stopped.
Had Hillary managed to inspire most of Barack Obama’s supporters to get out and vote, she still would have won, but she failed to do even that.
I do not mind that you mourn your loss, but please try to think of how the other side actually feels, not how you THINK they feel.
This is exactly what I haven’t been able to put into words. It feels like I’ve just been dumped by the people I love. That knot in your throat holding back the flood of tears. The sharp pain in your heart when you breathe. 💔 This article is everything. Thank you so much for writing it.
These people have been so brain washed that they can’t see beyond the media has been telling you. I feel sorry for you to fall for there crap. Obama devided this country worse than before the 60s. His agenda has been to distory this country as a puppet of George Soros. Don’t you realize that Hillary is in the Same pocket and the arranged marrage of Chelesi to Soros ‘s nephew. Hillary was for open boarders and late turm abortion. You delusional if you think your going to loose your health care. It will be better. We have been living for 8 years of someone trying to take away the greatness of the United States of America and America has spoken, that’s not going to happen. We were a great country and we are going to keep it that way.
1. Mud slinging was on both sides with calling good Americans Deplorable. Don’t forgive her for that.
2. Half of Americans would have been awaken this morning with that same sickening feelings had she won, confirming to us that lies, stealing and corruptions at the top is allowed. Would that make you feeling better and proud. Surprisingly to these deplorable people CHARACTER COUNTS and they picked the one less hurtful.
3. He’s not working alone. He’ll be surrounded by good decent people who will REALLY care to fix the mess we’re in.
This put into words what I’ve been feeling since yesterday. At work I put on a pretend face and helped others even when I was grieving inside. I was able to hold it back and not cry until my drive home… My entire life I have always been proud of my country. Now…who knows?
Will Trump learn the wisdom of a little humility? I hope so. I want him to succeed, because no matter what I want this country to succeed. But am I hopeful? No. Trump supporters would do well to remember that more of their fellow citizens voted for Hillary than for Trump (popular vote). Talk is cheap, and if Trump claims that he wants to serve all of America rather than just his 48% of supporters, he’s going to have to prove it.
This is exactly what happens when people do not use their God given voice to stand up. I find this whole thing angering. I feel like I am reliving the 1960s where I don’t have a right to express what I need to express. Free trade agreements are going to be abolished, stock markets are going to crash, and we now are going to see some tough economic times because people “don’t like Hillary.”
I wish people would just grow up. Its being people to every single person that steps into the USA. It just shows you, that you can bully your way to the top to get what you want. I am at a loss and heartbroken.
I can tell you right now, Public Enemy – Fight The Power is on replay at this particular moment. Thanks John, thank you for allowing me to have conversations with you. Thank you for having my back. Keep fighting. I have to as well
What a completely hypocritical intolerant uneducated blog post. I woke up wishing there wasn’t so much hurt today but now not so much.
The tolerant have become the intolerant, the self proclaimed educated have become the stupid.
Loved your last paragraph.
When you say “It’s not _______”, that’s code for “It’s ________”. You’re giving away what you’re actually thinking by bothering to tell us what it’s not. Rookie move with prose.
Do you really believe that America changed overnight just because Trump won ? Do you really think everyone who voted for him agrees with everything he says ? He does not speak for America. The America you woke up to yesterday is the same one you woke up to today. Your neighbor/coworker/friend/whatever, didn’t suddenly change their mind and decide he hates gays or Muslims now because Trump is president. Trump was not elected because of his views on Gay’s and Muslims. He was elected because people were more afraid of Clinton. And Obamacare is a nightmare that’s getting worse and people knew Clinton would not change it. It’s sad that the only thing the LGBT can see in Trump getting elected is that they have lost something. It’s sad that you feel unaccepted now but look around you, it’s the same world you woke up to last week and it will be the same world next week. Your friends are still your friends. Trump can’t change that.
Do people not realize or get that she was a SHAM, KILARY believed in kill babies up to the 9th month right before giving birth, she left men to die in Benghazi & had the audacity to say what difference would it have made, she supported Islam, a very cult the oppresses woman, kills gays & anyone else who isn’t Muslim or refuses Islam! She was ok in let EVERYONE to just randomly come to the US unchecked, would ANYONE leave their doors open at night before going to bed, heck, let’s get rid of door altogether, so when you leave your home is open to whomever, doesn’t people lock their car doors when entering a sketchy neighborhood, it that being racist or living in reality & keeping ones family safe?! This article is just down right STUPID!!!
Do people not realize or get that she was a SHAM, KILARY believed in kill babies up to the 9th month right before giving birth, she left men to die in Benghazi & had the audacity to say what difference would it have made, she supported Islam, a very cult the oppresses woman, kills gays & anyone else who isn’t Muslim or refuses Islam! She was ok in let EVERYONE to just randomly come to the US unchecked, would ANYONE leave their doors open at night before going to bed, heck, let’s get rid of door altogether, so when you leave your home is open to whomever, doesn’t people lock their car doors when entering a sketchy neighborhood, it that being racist or living in reality & keeping ones family safe?! That’s exactly what Trump is trying to do for the American people!! This article is just down right STUPID!!!
Yes, the most sinking feeling is getting through my day like it’s any other. And knowing in my heart and mind that it is not. I’m disgusted with my country, blaming women, then realizing that women must have such low self esteem and been beaten down so long that they don’t know how to raise themselves up. Just lots emotions and you eloquently stated so many of the thoughts in my mind. It’s a bad dream that I can’t wake up from. Thank you. Sadly, your getting comments from the idiocracy that this country has become. I side with you.
You lost your privileges, when you started killing babies…
This is very on point word for word !
Hitler brought the whole country together again, too. Just saying.
It hurts my heart to see so much hatred on an article that was not meant to accomplish such a thing. People really need to think before they speak because it doesn’t matter who is president, we decide how we treat other human beings. Disrespecting opinions on a blog post is not exactly a mark in humanities favor.
I voted for trump but it was not an easy decision. I hope that not everyone feels that way about those that voted the otherwise. I in no way believe I’m superior to anyone. I view everyone as part of the human race. But I could not bring myself to vote for someone that could so easily dismiss our unborn children. Someone that would have tried to pass laws to make murder in my eyes, legal. I value all life including those that don’t have a voice yet. So. I get stuck voting for the tyrant but feel that I’ll make every effort to keep the rest of our human rights. We are all part of the same race no matter the color sexual orientation ability levels. So please remember we are not all against diversity.
The media painted the picture that you’re talking about. It’s not true. Shame on them for their deception and shame on you for falling for it and boasting yourself as a “pastor” to influence others to your false opinions. Do yourself a favor. Start reading the bible again and put some true love back in your heart.
It’s touching how eloquently Liberals can express self pity. This whole post is condescending under the thin guise of grief. Good people who are socially Liberal voted for Trump as well. And so many people have been suckered into this alternate reality that Social Media and Sensationalized Journalism created that they have lost touch with this fact. So sad that despite the call from both President Obama and Secretary Clinton to keep an open mind, find common ground, and move forward together, that many will do the opposite. Hard to feel sorry for you in this context.
I voted for Trump. I’m 100% hispanic. Do I want immigration enforced? Absolutely. Do I want more illegal immigrants from wherever limited? Absolutely. Do I want limitations on the 2nd Amendment? No! Do I believe in abortion? Absolutely not and especially not in the gruesome way Hillary supports. BTW I’m an Independent. Seriously, you do not hold the patent on being tolerant, righteous etc. Right now Hillary supporters are rioting and protesting in the large cities, what do they hope to accomplish?
Practice what you preach and look at it another way. Trump supporters saw the liberal’s vision as separating and divisive. We see our side as uniting. See how easy it is to see both sides?
These statements are very contradictory. A true Christian sees beyond skin color, religious affiliation, nativity, sexual orientation, handicap, age, gender, etc… All the things you say you want, you are accusing conservative America of already doing! The difference between liberals and conservatives is that Christian conservatives believe in taking responsibility for their own actions, repenting, forsaking, apologizing, and changing when necessary. There’s no blaming it on someone else, or crying “discrimination ” over every little thing concievable. American citizens are obviously tired of this behavior. I know I am. I’m proud of the rural and urban voters who got out and stood up for what they believe in. We aren’t going to be pushed around by liberal Democrats. At least not for the Duration of this presidency. Glory hallelujah!
And by the way, we’ve never had a perfect president. So I guess if we’re “signing off” on Trump’s and Pence’s character flaws and misdeeds (real or perceived) , then we must be signing off on the sins of every other elected official since the beginning of time. I guess this means we all are accountable for someone else’s mistakes. That’s definitely what Jesus taught… ..NOT!!!
I’m neither a Trump supporter nor a Clinton supporter, but you’re demonstrating how little *you* understand.
Simply because you feel it was about racism, sexism and so on doesn’t change the actual motives of Trump voters, motives you obviously don’t care to learn about. Did they overlook Trump’s bigotry to vote for him? Only as much as you overlooked Clinton’s corruption.
If she had won, would they have been justified in claiming you condoned pay to pay, conspiracy and election fraud? If not, than you are not entitled to speak for Trump supporters and tell them what they support, either.
If its oh so ‘awful’ here and you want to live in your little globalist ‘utopia’ by all means move to Germany,France,The UK or Denmark and see how well the thankless muslim invaders from Sryia,Turkey,Pakistan etc ‘appreciate’ the hospitality of their host countries. they aren’t there to assimilate much less play patty cake or ‘we are the world’ they are there to establish world dominance and spread their message of mass genocide. Trump is the reason you won’t be living under sharia law in the year 2020 , the real reason you grieve today is because with your head that far up your rectal cavity you’ve been oxygen deprived to the point of permanent brain damage. oh you’re moving to Canada? really? whats wrong with Mexico? get off your high horse and for once instead of playing the victim make a difference by working for something instead of expecting it’s owed to you.
Thank you.
Amazing words, well said and reflect what many people are thinking not just in America but all over the world. It is not just Americans feeling it either – half of Americans may have validated trump and the other half stood up for morality and decency. But I believe many people in the rest of the world feel the same as this author and are also horrified what this is saying about Americans and the klutz Klux clan mentality which we thought had been wiped out years ago – the fear that it is on the rise again and will be practised not just in America but will have an effect on the rest of the world as well. My 3 daughters and many nieces cried and exclaimed “how can I explain to my daughters and sons what just happened to decency, morality and humanity” They fear for their children’s futures- Who can say women are not struggling with equality when the person most qualified and experienced for the biggest job almost in the world lost to someone unqualified and inexperienced and at the same time is rude and a bully and has no common decency.
Amen!!!! The Americans who voted for this change in America.. These people dont know how more dangerous this Nation will be..And the families that will be broken up..It very painful for the ones who know how Great America was.. Where we had freedom..May God continue to Bless Everyone in the world
I was one of those who voted independent. Not because I don’t see what you are describing, but because neither one of these 2 front runners was someone I wanted to represent this country. The Democrats (and I’m a registered Dem voter) shot themselves in the foot by cheating to put up the most unlikable, elitist person in the race against Trump … be it to make history by trying to get the first female into the White House (which I would have loved, just NOT her) or because Bernie was too far left or for whatever reason. If they had listened to the movement that Bernie Sanders had started, none of this would have happened. I would have voted for Bernie over Trump in a heartbeat. For Clinton? NO WAY!!!
Thank you for this thoughtful, heartfelt, beautiful, powerful, and eloquent post, John. So good to know that others GET it — especially welcome on a day like today, when I wasn’t so sure. Yes, I grieve; but because of this post, I feel less alone. Keep the faith, brother! <3
Thank you. So eloquently written and heartfelt.
really, inclusion? clinton and the DNC did everything shady to put down bernie sanders. she used words like ‘super predators’ and ‘deplorables’. her husband signed into law DOMA (bernie actually was one of the few who voted against it in the 1990s) and she believed marriage was between a man and a woman until it was less politically popular about four years ago. she also shared the stage with jay z who uses derogatory language about women and his lyrics have often used the word f word for gays in his raps. clinton’s definition of inclusion is purely a political one.
this morning i listened to a journalist saying they were very sorry for all the bashing they did. they wished they’d just gone out and talked to the people to hear what they were thinking. your title greiving caught my attention and i read it thinking i would get a better understanding of what ‘the other half’ was thinking. i was extremely disappointed when i realized you were just bashing my candidate like the media did. you want me to listen to you and understand yet you want to throw me and my candidate under the bus for my choice. sorry, this is one of the reasons i voted for him. he went from the ground up all by himself with no help from the media and certainly no help from people like you who want to continue to spread your propaganda and slander. and you call yourself a ‘christian’. get over it and quit feeling sorry for yourself!
So not true. Hillary wanted to compel people to violate their conscience and pay people more than they could afford to pay them. Obama promised not to start any new wars and Hillary was getting us into wars all over the place. If you look into Hillary’s history, you’ll find racial slurs galore, including the “n” word. She destroyed the life of a 12 year old rape victim to get off her rapist. She threatened her husband’s victims with violence – even having one woman’s cat killed. You people need to look a little closer.
Voting for someone because they’re a woman is sexist. Hillary was playing the gender card every chance she got.
She put our country’s secrets at risk with her private server, destroyed cell phones and evidence that had been subpoenaed. That’s who you’re crying about. Sorry. I don’t like Trump either, but Trump is an angel compared to that wicked witch.
I didn’t like either candidate
This is, quite frankly, the biggest load of horseshit I’ve read regarding this election…& that’s quite a feat. Let’s just avoid the fact that in the effort to canonize Hillary, paint her supporters as paragons of fairness and inclusion, and pillory Trump supporters for mischaracterizing your grief, you expose your hypocrisy by completely mischaracterizing Trump supporters to fit the myopic narrative you’ve crafted for yourself so your delicate sensibilities can process the outcome of the election. If this were just a Trump hate piece, I could understand it (I have disliked Trump for over 30 years), but I cannot even conceive of the level of disconnect it takes to overlook Hillary’s myriad problems & pen this tripe. What’s worse is that I think you, & many readers actually believe this. Cognitive dissonance & histrionics on a level I have never seen.
The Utopia you describe does not and never will exist. Human nature will not allow it. Society will not allow it. Greed will not allow it. That’s the problem with liberal socialist thinking. I’m all for a live and let live attitude. I get it. As long as I’m left alone to believe as I wish, keep what I earn, and retain the rights I’m entitled to as an American citizen. Unfortunately someone else will always be blamed for the plight of the disenfranchised. Someone else who works for what they have cannot pay to support those who do not. Why? Because there are too many “have nots”. We, the American citizens cannot support the world. If our society is so bad and you’re heartbroken about what a shitty place this is, why does everyone want to come here? If they do so legally, there is no problem. But to even fathom that all civilizations can come together, migrate indiscriminately with no law, and live in peace is the biggest mistake in all of mankind.
If its oh so ‘awful’ here and you want to live in your little globalist ‘utopia’ by all means move to Germany,France,The UK or Denmark and see how well the thankless muslim invaders from Sryia,Turkey,Pakistan etc ‘appreciate’ the hospitality of their host countries. they aren’t there to assimilate much less play patty cake or ‘we are the world’ they are there to establish world dominance and spread their message of mass genocide. Trump is the reason you won’t be living under sharia law in the year 2020 , the real reason you grieve today is because with your head that far up your rectal cavity you’ve been oxygen deprived to the point of permanent brain damage. oh you’re moving to Canada? really? whats wrong with Mexico? get off your high horse and for once instead of playing the victim make a difference by working for something instead of expecting it’s owed to you.
I don’t understand why Trump is so despicable while Clinton gets a pass. She criticized her husband’s sexual victims. She defended a man who raped a 12 year old and spoke casually about it, even laughing that he passed the lie detector test.
Neither one of these people is a friend of women.
Hillary’s racism:
#1 – In 1974, after Bill Clinton lost his bid for a Senate seat, Hillary lashed out at campaign manager Paul Fray calling him a, “f*cking Jew bastard!” This outburst was witnessed and confirmed by 3 people, so it definitely happened.
#2 – As First Lady, Hillary called young black men “super-predators” indicating that she thought all young black males were violent criminals. She also said, “We have to bring them to heel,” like young blacks are the same as dogs. Despite thinking this was incredibly racist, blacks still support Hillary.
#3 – While serving in the US Senate, Hillary tried to make a joke that disparaged a civil rights icon and demeaned all people from India. “I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station?” asked Clinton.
#4 – In 2005 Hillary said, “I am adamantly against illegal immigrants.” She also, as a Senator, voted to construct a wall between the US and Mexico. Considering the main “proof” of Trump’s racism is that he opposes illegal immigration and wants to build a wall, isn’t it odd that Hillary gets off for having said the same thing?
#5 – During the 2008 democratic primaries Hillary Clinton’s campaign started the “birther” rumors, questioning Obama’s US citizenship. They even circulated the now famous picture of Obama in full Muslim garb. Somehow Trump’s campaign to get Obama to release his birth certificate is racist, but Hillary’s role in starting the birther movement is not.
#6 – Also during the 2008 presidential race, Hillary’s husband Bill said this of Obama: “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.” Hillary didn’t say this one but her husband did and she certainly never disavowed it.
#7 – Shortly after announcing her candidacy, Hillary said “all lives matter” in a black church. I don’t think this one is racist, but lefties, black activists, and Hillary herself all do, so it makes the list. Plus as is the case with most of this stuff, if Trump had said it liberals would freak the hell out.
#8 – In November of 2015, Hillary called people in this country illegally “illegal aliens.” Trump is a racist when he says “illegal aliens,” why isn’t Hillary?
#9 – In April of this year, Hillary joined NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio on stage at a democratic fundraiser for a scripted joke about how lazy black people are. The two liberals made reference to “colored people’s time” which is a super-racist way of saying black people are chronically tardy and lethargic.
#10 – April was a great month for Hillary’s racism, as she also made a comment disparaging Native Americans. She said she had experience dealing with wild men when they “get off the reservation.” In essence she said Native Americans are savages who must be segregated from the rest of society.
As a bonus:
#11 – On a black radio show, Hillary pandered to black voters by claiming she always carries hot sauce in her purse. It was racist when Donald Trump pandered Hispanics by eating a taco bowl, but not racist when Hillary pandered blacks. How does that work?
To recap: Trump has said that some illegal aliens are criminals, suggested a judge with ties to a radical racist Mexican group may be biased, and offered the opinion that we do more to keep radical Islamic Terrorists from getting into the country. These things that have nothing to do with race are why the media constantly tells us Trump is a racist.
Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, has decades of making anti-Semitic, anti-black, anti-Indian (both Native Americans and Asians), and anti-Latino statements. Why is Trump a racist and Hillary is not?
(oh, and I don’t like being called a “deplorable”) http://downtrend.com/71superb/top-ten-examples-of-hillary-clintons-racism-the-media-chooses-to-ignore
To all those who voted for Trump thinking he would make things right in their world … I want to hear how you feel about your candidate a year from now will you still feel the same ? Everyone (politicians, businessmen etc) promise so much its Sales 101 win the deal .. but the whole point in being successful is in the delivery, can you deliver on what you promised if not then you have failed regardless of your initial win .
I’m sick and tired of it. I’m sick and tired of these uninformed jack…… telling me that I’m racist, sexist, Islamophobic and homophobic. They have no basis for those claims. They’re consumed by their emotions. Do they honestly believe Hillary Clinton lost solely because she’s a woman? It couldn’t possibly have anything with her being a pathological liar who’s spent her entire life pursuing political power? It had nothing to do with the fact that America’s not satisfied with her vision for America– an America with open borders, higher taxes and more bureaucratic scumbags in D.C. telling us how to run our lives?
We’re not racist. We’re not sexist. We want people to come into this country legally. That’s not racist. Progressive leadership in the big, urban cities hasn’t pulled the black community out of poverty. It’s worsened it. Liberalism has failed them. We acknowledge that. We want them to prosper. That’s not racist. And as for being sexist? All issues are women’s issues. I have no idea why liberals continue to separate them. Do they really believe we only care about vaginas, boobs and killing our offspring? Liberals assumed we (women) would vote for Hillary based on those reasons alone. THAT’S sexist, if you ask me. Women care about the economy. We care about national security. We care about the almost $20 trillion national debt. We care about the erosion of our freedoms. We care about the future of the Supreme Court. The list goes on and on and on.
I also saw some posts on how Trump’s victory signifies that America hates the LGBT community. NEWSFLASH: We elected a man who wants to keep dangerous anti-LGBT ideologues OUT OF OUR COUNTRY. Those people who want to throw them off rooftops? We don’t want them here. We want to protect the LGBT community. The fact that we stand for traditional family values and don’t want men in the women’s bathroom doesn’t take anything away from that. Not for one second.
We’re not racist or sexist. We’re freaking SICK AND TIRED of the political establishment crapping all over the Constitution and treading on our liberty. We’re sick of them refusing to uphold the rule of law. We’re sick of being told that this is as good as it gets. We want economic freedom. We want to keep more of our hard-earned money. We want healthcare premiums that AREN’T AS MUCH AS OUR MORTGAGES. We want people to enter our country LEGALLY. We believe in peace through strength. Faith. Freedom. Family. We’re the most kick a** country that has ever existed. All you liberals whining over our “demise,” GET OVER YOURSELVES. You’re clueless. We were founded on the novel idea that we were endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. Rights than cannot be given or taken away by a governing authority. This was about individual liberty. We reject government force and coercion. Votes. Favors. Political power. That’s the cycle of every progressive politician. We’re done. We’re sick of it.
The reason your candidate lost was because her character is nauseating to anyone who has any sense of decency. She was careless with classified information. She received a subpoena from the FBI to turn over emails to which she blatantly deleted and used bleach bit because she really didn’t want anyone to see her yoga emails or wedding planning details. If she thought that people were going to buy that story she is insulting our intelligence.
What you failed to mention John is that your candidate was running for our country’s highest office while being investigated by the FBI for bribery and collusion in her foundation.
When President Elect Trump won last night it was a huge middle finger to the last eight years and the bull*hit that our 44th president shoved down our throats.
May our country go back to the pledge of allegiance before school. May we stop taking God out of our vocabulary. May we respect the law and the people who put their lives on the line for our safety. And let’s give people a hand if they need it. Not a hand out.
There are so many articles written so passionately about the opposition. And so many are based on nothing but opinion, very skewed opinion. I am a woman, lived worked and was personally involved in the gay community for a decade, now married to a totally different race and we produced 3 gorgeous kids together. I voted Trump. If I were voting for a friend, I would not have voted for him. But, I was not voting for a friend, I was voting for somebody who was more in-line with my political beliefs. Yes, my beliefs are different from many, but that’s why we get to vote. Get over it, it’s not personal. Get on board with your next president and make the changes in your community that you want to see.
Thank you. I’m french Canadian and for everybody around me, this is an horrifying day. The last times in history, somebody said publicly the words Trump has being saying we got the Rwanda genocid, the Yougoslavian war, the second World War.
I am pleased to see that some people in the States are as hurt and stund as we are , and he’s still able to express himself nicely. Thank’s also for some beautiful comments I read.
If people keep their eyes open and continue to talk, there might be hope still.
“We’re not angry that our candidate lost. We’re angry because our candidate’s losing means this country will be less safe, less kind, and less available to a huge segment of its population, and that’s just the truth.”
And yet, hoards of liberals are out in the streets “protesting” (looting,destroying businesses, lighting fires, yelling profanities, etc). So peaceful, so kind. Not to mention, all the “hate” you’re harping about is coming from the left! So tolerant, unless you don’t agree with them.
Wake up!!! Over half of the country
picked him!! The left has had their collective heads in the sand for so long, they couldn’t see what was coming! I’m not “allowed” to show that I’m hopeful and happy about the outcome….too offensive. Ridiculous!
Donald Trump is not all of America. Voting for him does not mean you vote for everything he stands for as a person. There are very few people who voted for Hillary that believe in everthying she is as a person. Have a little more faith in your fellow man. Trump is one man. American is made up of millions. The world is not coming to an end. How about a little less drama. Disagreeing is not equivalent to hating.
I am sorry for your grief. While I do not share these feelings, I have felt marginalized in my own country for some time. “Judge not lest ye be judged.” I work very hard to live this as I am certainly not fit to cast the first stone. I do not hold with the thoughts, values or lack thereof that causes those to feel marginalized by the changes our nation is going through. My sincere prayer is that we can transcend labels and be people. I no longer want to be white or old or a veteran or whatever label or box others need to place me in. I want to be a person that is accepted as such, just as those of whom you write. Know that I am praying for all that peace and love is there for all of us humans. Thanks.
Thank you for putting into words my thoughts and feelings about this country. I live near Atlantic City. We are very happy that the man who won last night is gone from NJ. We hope he never returns. Like many I don’t recognise this country anymore. It is not the great nation It once was. The words on the Statue of Liberty are no longer what this country represents. His supporters should get out their Bibles and carefully read the words of Christ. They have strayed far fromthem.
Your a bunch of sore losers. We had to put up with Obama for 8 years and look where it got us, give him a chance and see where he takes us before you go assuming things. You sound like a bunch of whiners!
Cry more.
Finally heard someone say the same thing I was saying. It’s funny how people are saying the media made Trump the way he is, every commercial, every speech from Trump was delivered from his own mouth, unedited. If people think the media or Hillary Clinton made Trump sound bad then they agree that the things he says are bad. So people voted for him because they heard themselves thinking it was good but that what God has given to all men deep inside to know Him kept telling them it was wrong. Even so they bit at the chance to do something that was not right, same old thing, did God say that you should not vote for Him? If you vote for Him you going to be able to do this and that. I say if you check the garden account in Genesis you will find the same type of question asked. I understand a little clearer the scripture, the blind leading the blind. I heard today, “not to hope that He falls, because that’s like hoping for the pilot who’s piloting the plane your on to crash, cause he’s an idiot.” I just hope he does the opposite of the things you’ve mentioned, and do what is right.
This seemingly eloquent but dangerous article demonstrates both a fundamental denial of social thought-manipulation through commonly used marketing tactics of the liberal media, and also a refusal to acknowledge the actual WORDS and INTENT of the republican platform. It is nothing more than further attempt to rewrite small portions of history, to inaccurately portray democrats as the savior of human rights, when republicans are to be continuously thanked.
The writer may indeed be accurately portraying the feelings of HRC supporters. THAT is the real problem-that so many people have become so confused, duped, and programmed to believe what the paid adword algorithms command. If these terms aren’t familiar, that’s ok. Research them and you’ll understand their significance.
In syrupy prose, it is indeed an evil vitriol intended to divide Americans, concealed in a would-be attitude of inclusion.
Its basic premise is completely false, and unworthy of real discussion. It is social programming, and serves no useful purpose to a truly enlightened society.
Drama much? I wonder if you see the irony of your post. The words you use to describe those with whom you disagree politically are not only untrue, unfair, and ungenerous, but they give lie to the very tolerance you claim to have towards others. You make some very harsh assumptions about the hearts and motivations of those whom you don’t know and have made no effort to understand. I don’t doubt that you grieve, but that grief does not give you the right to self-righteously judge the intentions of others, especially those based on your own faulty assumptions about who they are and what they think. You might be more persuasive if you took the time to try to understand those whom you currently malign and why they think differently than you.
People need to stop being so judgmental of others stating how they feel. The truth is..neither of you know nothing about how the other side feels so stop slamming them for stating things you do not like to hear.
For the record, I voted for Clinton why because I do not nor will I ever trust Trump. This man’s words has caused a huge divide in this nation and you can not and you know I am right. People have a right to be outraged and with good reason consider the way Trump ran his campaign. There are people out there who do go around and insult people just because of their color, their gender, their sexual orientation or their religion and think it’s ok to do so. Where has the respect for our fellow man or woman has gone? You can insult me and call me a liberal, I do not care. But the fact of the matter is, no matter who would have won, the other side would grieve and they have that right. What they do not have the right to do is insult anyone and this post did not insult anyone. He is merely stating how we feel. You can either accept that or not but you can’t stop anyone from expressing how they feel.
Very eloquent, yet maudlin and self-absorbed nonsense, John. Go ahead and wallow for a day or two; that’s allowed. But, if you really want to know EXACTLY why Trump got elected and Hillary and the Democrats were roundly denied? Ready? Go get yourself a copy of “The Clinton’s War On Women”. Read it from cover to cover, take notes, and meditate on what you’ve just read. Then you’ll actually have a valid reason to seriously grieve. But, this condescending and contrived diatribe based on misplaced guilt and your own personal religious backlash only fills white space and serves your ego. All of your finger pointing is nothing more than projection from deep within the well of the modern liberal psyche. Get over yourself and go get some sleep, pardner. Everything’s gonna be alright.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/2/donald-trump-holds-high-flag-gay-equality/
I have to say.. this pretty much sums it all up for me.. as a veteran, I’m having a really hard time trying to figure out exactly what I was fighting for – the very freedoms I fear will be taken away. Today, I grieve the loss of a country that turned to hate instead of hope.
This is not the country I bled for.
Reading many of the above comments have just fed my resolve today. I’m grieving too, and I’ve finally reached the breaking point. People like John still give me hope, but I’m tired of being associated with those willing to trade Christian values for economics or a backlash against the “establishment.”
Growing up I had it drilled into me that being Christ-like was to be loving, forgiving, compassionate, generous, and to hold yourself to a higher moral standard, regardless of what those around you did. Being Christian also meant holding those who claimed the same to account when they failed to meet those standards. I watched as those in authority crucified Bill Clinton in the wake the Lewinsky scandal (my dad was particularly vocal as I recall…still is). I watched them decry politicians, celebrities, and sports figures for their moral failings, all while holding up others who supposedly walked the walk and stood for the “right” political party, thus were worthy of support and admiration. I was immersed in the world of Focus on the Family (I had a subscription to Brio as a teen). I believed hook, line, and sinker that the traditions of the church around me were the right path, the moral high ground, the best way to live your life. I even stood with my dad as we were thrown out of church one night for standing up and challenging the behaviour of the church board.
My dad once campaigned hard (was hired by a grassroots lobby as a regional director) for the Michigan Marriage Protection Act. He still claims that the “LGBT Agenda” is destroying America. When I came out I had to weather a vicious backlash I’d known for years would happen. I’ve been at odds with the church over that, because I know how ignorant, misguided, and downright false the anti-gay beliefs are. But I still believed, in spite of all of the nasty vitriol (and legislation) coming out of the church, that there was overall goodness in my fellow American Christians.
This election cycle has brought out the ugly. It has exposed the racist, sexist, and xenophobic underbelly in American culture that, while only entrenched in a minority of people, is now holding us hostage and tainting us all. Electing Donald Trump, a buffoon of a man who has failed miserably at business, is happy to milk the system for any personal gain, and worships his own brand is embarrassing. In some ways the white supremacist and fascist support was to be expected. The overwhelming support from the supposedly righteous, God-fearing American Christians, is not.
I know not every American Christian voted for Trump. Most of my Christian friends are among those who didn’t, and my anger is not directed at them. What I can’t stomach is that the majority of American Christians threw their weight behind the most ungodly man to ever run for the highest office in the land. If anything could ever be considered heresy, this is it. I will never, ever, forget yesterday. As a group, American Christians sold their souls to the devil for political gain.
Donald Trump worships his own image and brand. He is his own god. How is this worthy of Christian support?
Donald Trump denigrates, mocks, and wounds without thought or care. The least of these are good for nothing but hurtful scorn. How is this worthy of Christian support?
Donald Trump boasts about getting payback and exacting retribution on his “enemies.” Vengeance is his, not God’s. How is this worthy of Christian support?
Donald Trump has had numerous affairs and brags about bedding married women. Adultery is his hobby. How is this worthy of Christian support?
Donald Trump sees females as pussies to be lusted after, arm candy to be paraded, and commodities to be traded in when the next item comes along. He has no respect for the worth of women. How is this worthy of Christian support?
Donald Trump lies as naturally as he breathes. He says only what is expedient and will go back on his word the minute it suits. How is this worthy of Christian support?
Donald Trump will hire someone in good faith and then refuse to pay them. His promises aren’t worth the paper they’re written on. How is this worthy of Christian support?
Donald Trump refuses to apologise and see this as a virtue. He claims he needs no forgiveness from God. How is this worthy of Christian support?
Donald Trump threatens anyone who dares to challenge him. Lawsuits and bullying are his tools of negotiation. How is this worthy of Christian support?
Donald Trump claims to be a Christian, then can’t quote a single Bible verse and expresses his so-called faith with incoherent self-praise. His “Christianity” is nothing more than badly stuck on label. How is this worthy of Christian support?
I’m definitely not a fan of Hillary Clinton, but nothing she has done even remotely compares to Trump’s complete personification un-Christian behaviour.
We can disagree on economic policy. We can disagree on law. We can disagree on job creation and healthcare. But if you’re going to claim the moral high ground, you sure as hell better follow through. What happened last night flies in the face of everything I was taught about being Christ-like. This wasn’t a blip or a small number. A majority of the church decided to fall in line with the antithesis of everything it professes to stand for. American Christians claim superiority and say it’s their job to hold their leaders to account, then conveniently turn a blind eye when it gives them an opportunity to punish a woman they’ve hated for thirty years. There are no excuses. There are no explanations. God did not give his stamp of approval nor anoint this false prophet. The truth is plain to see. The hypocrisy is mind blowing. And Christ had absolutely nothing to do with it.
For myself, I’m through. I’m done believing in the overall goodness of American Christians. If they can stand up, look the world in the eye, and say Trump reflects their values, I want absolutely nothing to do with them. I stand with the LGBT community. I stand with minorities. I stand with Native Americans fighting for their rights. I stand with the least among us. I stand with the destitute. I stand with my neighbours, whoever they may be. I stand for justice and decency and righteousness. I stand with everyone else who believes we are all equal in God’s eyes, regardless of colour, religion, or social status. They are welcome in my country, they are welcome in my home, and they are welcome in my heart.
As far as the church is concerned, this was the final straw. I’m handing back my membership and peeling off the label. Do not count me any longer as an American Christian. I will not be associated with this disgusting mockery of the values I hold dear. If that makes me apostate, if that makes me evil, if that makes me a pariah in the country of my birth, so be it. I’m angry, I’m disgusted, my heart is breaking, and I’m past the point of no return.
You call yourself a pastor and write an article like this? Words are more worrisome to you than years of deeds? Let’s just stick with the moral aspects of this. Hillary is the great champion of women yet it was her that came up with the “bimbo eruptions” and did everything in her power to destroy these victims of her husband. She is a thief, a cheat and a liar. She has used her” charity” to line her coffers and abused the poor. God has a lot to say about actions like this. Haven’t even gotten to her pro death beliefs. God created life and it is sacred, He alone has the power to give and to take life. She has no problem disobeying his commandments, sounds like you have no problem disregarding God’s word either. You will have to give an account for your actions and as a pastor for what you preached.
Wisdom and profound sadness so well expressed thank you
I agree with this post 100%! I feel like we just stepped back in time 100 years. May God have mercy on this country. I am praying for this country and I know he hears my prayers.