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[–]shitlordcaligula 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

So, Cara = Snally?

[–]snallygaster[S] 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

how did you know??

[–]shitlordcaligula 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

You went too in-depth into Munchausen. To the point of deflecting culpability. I mean, I'll still totally marry you. Cancer, AIDS, SARS, the rage virus, and all.

[–]Zachums 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

I wonder if the internet directly lead to her being such a liar, or if she would have been a liar even if the internet didn't exist? Maybe it's just that the internet gives them access to a larger audience for sympathy, thereby exacerbating already existing conditions?

[–]shitlordcaligula 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

I went to grade school with a girl who was always really sick. She just wanted to be a normal kid more than anything, but her mom kept doing all of these high-attention things to "help" her daughter.

Turns out there was really nothing wrong with her other than being malnourished. Some speculated that the mom had been poisoning her, but I don't think anything was ever proven conclusively.

Anyways, the point is that this was pre-Tumblr and pre-Facebook and she still managed to get a shit ton of sympathy, gifts, etc.

[–]Zachums 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

In your friend's case, yes. My question was in regards to the person in Snally's post. It's more of a rhetorical question, of course.

[–]snallygaster[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

If she does have HPD, then she probably would have been an attention-seeker whether the internet exists or not. The internet just gives people with HPD a great platform for attention-seeking.

[–]SkekEkt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think one possibility is that people who are similar to 'Cara' have had a lot of direct experience in their lives with one or more persons that were either A) seriously ill or disabled themselves, or B) were a caregiver for a seriously ill or disabled person (such as a deaf child, in the example above). It's one part envy, and one part admiration of the hardships some people must undergo; and they start to crave that same admiration that, in their perception, the seriously ill and disabled receive for their "victories."

A person who has been around a lot of ill or disabled people - especially a child who grew up with a lot of direct experience with such people - would probably see any illness/disability as an "important" part of what it means to be a person. In other words, the impression gets created (in the child's mind, let's say) that a certain person's story, i.e. their lived experiences, are more important because of all the hardships and obstacles that they must overcome in their life in order to simply survive.

Conversely, the life story of another person who is apparently not overcoming any hardships, (i.e. not disabled, not a caregiver for a seriously ill person) would then be, by way of comparison, less important.

And maybe, once that person starts to create a mental construct that holds illness/disability in high esteem due to the "overcoming hardship" aspect, then they might start to view anyone who is simply surviving, i.e. not overcoming hardships of the degree and intensity that a seriously ill or disabled person must deal with, as a dull person.

A person who is not overcoming an illness or disability simply "is" or "exists," as opposed to the disabled person, whose life - despite the reality being a quotidian monotony of medical necessities and invention-assisted bodily maintenance - is somehow seen as being filled with daily victories as they overcome the obstacles in their lives.

And maybe, in their dull lives of simply "existing" - as they would view it - people like 'Cara' start to crave those "daily victories" which, in their perception, would magically transform their lives into something important: a struggle.

They would then have the opportunity to know what it's like to be on the other side, with others seeing every day of their lives as a battle against the "impossible odds" of living with a disability, in which simply surviving from day to day is seen as a victory.

[–]kanyebest100 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

snallyposting best posting

[–]DannyLee90 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Snally is my mentor, like that lemur from Kung-Fu Panda who seems to be the only one who gives a single shit.

[–]evannever 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

My wife works with a woman like this. Sadly we fear infanticide may actually be part of the equation. Long story short: woman seemed unusually into SIDS and infant mortality charities and support groups before having her own baby... who then died.

Now woman supposedly has late stage terminal cancer, which is the entire focus of her Facebook wall. Yet when she revealed her diagnosis a year ago she supposedly had less than a year to live. Now, still obese and very much alive, she suddenly shaved her head... because I guess that's what she thinks chemo looks like, an obviously shaved full head of hair.

We try to stay out of it all. Police never charged her.

[–]snallygaster[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

oh jesus, that's horrible. the cops looked into it? it's probably really hard to prove that infanticide isn't SIDS if it's done well.

[–]evannever 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, they did look into it, and that's the same thing we thought too.

I I think we've compartmentalized it because the truth is too ugly, but she wraps enough people up in her charade that we keep thinking she'll be found out, but we have neither the time or inclination to get into that shit show.

[–]AntiLuke 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

Snally, is this what your graduate research is about? Is this why you're so good at sniffing out esoteric internet drama?

[–]snallygaster[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

if only :'(

[–]hypnozooid 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

You should drop out and become a full time obscure-internet-drama investigator, or switch to getting a degree in something related where you can use all this stuff.

[–]snallygaster[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish I could, but it's too late now.

[–]DannyLee90 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

where you can use this stuff

If only the market for Internet Drama Cataloger was better.

[–]Pepperglue 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This kind of research and dedication to stupid internet drama is totally degree-worthy.

MA in Internet Drama. How about that.

Seriously though, good write-up as always Snally.

[–]SnapshillBotbite my shiny metal ass 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

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[–]Hitlery_Clinton 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is really hard to masturbate to. Good cancer chick porn always gets right to the point (you know, no time to waste) but this just takes forever.

[–]snallygaster[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry, here's some cancer chick erotica to make it up to you.

[–]DannyLee90 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anything that has "ultracore" and "AltaVista" in the first page is worthy of anyone's browsing history.

[–]glmox 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

snallysclusives give me life

[–]ninjaofpatience 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

You really are wasting your talent on reddit, you should have a magazine column of your own.

[–]hypnozooid 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Don't tell her, she might stop posting here :(

[–]snallygaster[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'll never stop posting stuff here, if I wanted attention or money out of it then I'd have solicited publications long ago. I just like sharing the fruits of my hobby with people I also like. I know some people who got jobs at vice and the daily dot for far less effort.

[–]Ardvarkeating101 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know some people who got jobs at vice and the daily dot for far less effort.

Please spill the beans, if it becomes well known enough we might all end up with jobs at Vice and the Daily Dot.

[–]snallygaster[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I saw a few people get jobs at DD for jumping on ever so slightly internet culture happenings, and some of them got offered jobs at Vice because of those articles. I also got contacted by some Vice intern about otherkin because of an essay I wrote on TiA whose portfolio was on a tumblr account, and their writing seemed pretty mediocre in terms of both content and writing style. It seems like it's not that difficult to get a job reporting internet stuff so long as you're a half-decent writer and have a scoop that hasn't already been regurgitated on a billion clickbait lists.

[–]WithoutAComma 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I had a girlfriend ages ago who faked cancer. It was an ordeal that lasted over a year, and fucked me up for a little while after. A lot of what Cara's friend wrote about in her tell-all reminds me of then. I thought about writing it up in the /r/drama real life drama thread we had a while back, I'll probably do it at some point, it's a story. BPD, HPD, and factitious describes her very, very well.

[–]snallygaster[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought about writing it up in the /r/drama real life drama thread we had a while back, I'll probably do it at some point, it's a story.

Please do, irl drama is the best.

[–]mydramaaccount 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Raise your hand if you were surprised the type of person who would do this turned out to be a white woman.

[–]thedoctoralwayslies 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I can't believe this happened ~10 years ago, but I remember a popular/well-liked LiveJournal user by the name of limeybean doing this same thing, except it eventually culminated in her death. Some heartbroken yet suspicious friends went digging, and exposed all her lies. I want to say that event coined the term 'pseuicide' but probably not.

[–]snallygaster[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oooh, got any links? I need to see that.

it eventually culminated in her death

It seems like every community that was somewhat large and/or ran for a long time had somebody who did something like this. I saw it a few times; I remember in particular that there was a chick on a roleplaying forum I frequented who pretended that she was being abused by her family, then 'slipped into a coma' after a 'car accident' and 'died'. I forget how it came out that she lied, but it caused a huge shitstorm.

I want to say that event coined the term 'pseuicide' but probably not.

Looks like you might be right!

[–]thedoctoralwayslies 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a bit hard to find anything you couldn't find just by googling her username anymore it seems. Most of it got lost when fandom_wank disappeared but I did find one of the first posts from when it was discovered she wasn't dead.

[–]snallygaster[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I looked around and found a little bit of info that's still around, but yeah, seems like almost everything is gone. RIP fandomwank, so much information lost.

That said, searching 'psuedicide' and 'limeybean' led me to a bunch of stuff about a fucking insane cult centered around the LOTR fandom and later other fandoms, holy shit it's juicy and I can't believe I've never heard of it. They even got some of the LOTR cast involved in some of their antics.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Is narcissistic personality disorder involved?

[–]Hitlery_Clinton 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why, are you looking to get some of that fake cancer action?

[–][deleted] 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah.

Only works on chicks.

[–]snallygaster[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

People who do this commonly have a Cluster B personality disorder, but Histronic Personality Disorder is most commonly associated with it.

[–]WithoutAComma 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Borderline Personality Disorder as well.

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for the good info! Have a happy halloween!

[–]exasperation 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

When these people receive material benefit (as they often do), charge them with fraud and throw them in prison as far as I'm concerned.

[–]snallygaster[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

There have been a few cases of people getting prison time for this sort of thing. It should be more common, though.

[–]TheThirstyMayor 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nice post. This is a rich drama vein. I remember This American Life had a segment about this. I dig it up if people are interested. It's episode 155, titled Hoaxing Yourself. Part 3 is the relevant segment. It involves comas, lies, the cast of Rent, and of course, drama.

[–]snallygaster[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sweet, I love TAL. Can't believe I never listened to/can't remember that one since I've probably listened to every episode at least once.

[–]riemannFakesAutism 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Some suspicious people in this sub too.

[–]zwiebelhans 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gawd whenever your done studying and you get famous for your passionate work , don't leave us.

K gonna go now and spit out a hairball.

[–]MelungeonQueen 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those people just gave me cancer

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So the fault in their stars was actually they were liars?