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[–]SlabMcLargeHuge 64 points65 points66 points  (96 children)
All the commie subs are full of edgelords bragging about not voting.
[–]CrushCoalMakeDiamond 14 points15 points16 points  (0 children)
Yeah, I'm a commie and I sure as fuck ain't voting.
(Because I'm British.)
[–]l_________l 73 points74 points75 points  (79 children)
Economic and racial privilege personified.
[–]Suddenly_Elmo comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points  (8 children)
I always vote but this shitty argument can fuck right off. I know plenty of working class people and PoC on the hard left who don't vote. They'll also be joining the 48% of PoC and majority poor peopleattr(title) not voting for Clinton.
*edited to correct proportions
[–]IntrepidEmu 8 points9 points10 points  (7 children)
That article is literally about one poll from July, and undecided/third party portions of the vote have gone way down since then.
Also that poll shows 52% of PoC voting for Clinton vs 11% for Trump, and Clinton lead Trump in all three polls. If you're not a fan of Clinton then fine, but this is a terrible and dishonest point to make.
[–]Suddenly_Elmo 0 points1 point2 points  (6 children)
Please provide some more recent data on the topic and I will revise what I'm saying. You're right on the 52%, I was looking at the wrong graph. But that is still nearly half. Even if it is now a 60/40 or 70/30 split, that is still millions of people not voting for her. And the divide is even less in her favour with poor people. Claiming that only the privileged won't vote for her is categorically false.
[–]IntrepidEmu 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
Hereattr(title) is a collection of data from last month. Hillary lead among women by 9 points, among black voters by 79 points, and among Hispanic voters by 28 points. This doesn't account for turnout like your link does though, as most polls are only of likely voters. It's also pretty hard to find polls specifically for poor voters.
I don't think only the privileged won't vote for her, I think that's a ridiculous point people are making. But still, she is definitely winning among the underprivileged by fairly wide margins.
[–]NinteenFortyFive 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
last month.
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE UNLESS IT WAS MADE 5 SECONDS AGO
[–]Suddenly_Elmo -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
That shows Hillary's lead actually diminishing among black people, Hispanics and women since WaPo polling in July. So if anything those numbers have likely got worse since the data I posted.
Yes, she is definitely winning big among underprivileged groups. And I certainly wasn't trying to say Trump is more popular than her with these people. Just that there are clearly a lot of them who feel deeply ambivalent about her and are staying home or voting for others.
[–]IntrepidEmu 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Nah numbers have fluctuated a lot, and third parties and undecideds have been switching to either Clinton or Trump which doesn't benefit your argument. Sure, Trump might have closed the gap a bit on women between September and October in my poll, bit she still could have gained support by the standards of your poll.
[–]l_________l 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
That's not what I'm claiming. I'm saying that the so-called progressive far-leftists who won't get off their asses to vote for Clinton are privileged enough to weather a Trump presidency without any risk of losing their civil rights or liberties and thus don't really care about the working class or progressive causes.
[–]Suddenly_Elmo -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
But what evidence do you have that the hard-left are actually as privileged as you claim? Like I said, I don't even agree with those who refuse to vote for Clinton, but it annoys me to see many decent and compassionate people I know who do care about the working class and social justice be cast as privileged slacktivists. To me, it just seems like a re-hashing of the old, tired right-wing trope about radicals being part of an out-of-touch elite that's been around since the 60s.
[–]acidroach420 2 points3 points4 points  (32 children)
Even if they don't live in a swing state? I get it if you live in Ohio, but I live in NYC and there are zero contested seats on my ballot. Why bother?
[–]Hamuel 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
What I always tell people is turn in a blank ballot. That shows you are willing to vote but unwilling to support any of the candidates.
[–]acidroach420 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
People in America fetishize their vote to an insane degree. Politicians don't look at the results and say "Oh, that person turned in a blank ballot, they must be disillusioned!". Even worse, I've heard some fellow New Yorkers say they'll vote for Clinton, but on the Working Families ticket to show their dissent. I'd rather crack open a beer than engage in such self-serving histrionics.
[–]_pi 15 points16 points17 points  (28 children)
Because democracy is run by those who show up, and you are playing a modified prisoner dilemma against all of the people in your state.
Not only that but I hardly believe that ALL of your seats down to local are uncontested. I hardly believe you agree with/are satisfied with ALL of the incumbent parties in those seats. I hardly believe if that's your stance you KNOW of down ballot races.
Shirking your civic duty isn't cool or communist or intelligent, it's just you being a shithead because you think you follow politics because you read news about the presidential election on facebook.
[–]acidroach420 -10 points-9 points-8 points  (27 children)
Oh please, I work in politics (including locally) and almost certainly know more about the people running than you. If you don't believe me, look up "NYC ballot" to see what I mean. If I do vote, my POTUS pick will be Jill Stein, and the rest will be Democrats because there isn't much of a choice.
[–]_pi 16 points17 points18 points  (26 children)
almost certainly know more about the people running than you.
Jill Stein
MFW.
Wifi cancer and incomprehensible uninformed economic and international policy. You certainly know a lot.
Or are you waiting for Baraka to push a bill through Congress creating the Barack Obama Uncle Tom Federal Library in Chicago.
Tankies. SMH
[–]Budlight_year -4 points-3 points-2 points  (1 child)
Did you just call Jill Stein supporters tankies? I mean jesus, this place is counterjerking hard to commiesubreddits.
[–]AutoModeratorKhiva[M] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
That's it. You've done it now. You are a target of the revolution. All of you in Circlebroke have continued to harass, mock, and worst of all ALIENATE us enlightened communists (Class alienation was an important marxist concept, look it up). You buy into the liberal propoganda they teach in high school and even college about Mao, Stalin, and their legacies. Turning a poor peasant nation into 2 of the most powerful nations in the world, but you cry about NATURAL FAMINES THAT WERE GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY. You are just like the moderates you make fun of you stupid fucking south parkers. Did you know every single -ism and -phobia is rooted in class? You can do all the activism, voting, and liberal lies you want, but if we do not have the class revolution it will all FAIL. We try our best, we post our memes, we defend the Soviet Union and other socialist states, but you make fun of us? For trying to destroy all discrimination? You are part of the problem. YOU are the racists. YOU are the homophobes. YOU are the sexists. YOU are the transphobes. What's worse is you claim you're not because you support liberal feminism and the false institutes of marriage (Gay marriage is a lie like all marriage, it needs to be abolished.) and buy into the transgender lie of the concept of gender, letting people become victims of abuse because it's "progressive". Both candidates end up in the SAME path, into the neoliberal mess of inequality and enforcing the oppressive capitalist state. Hell, you could at least support Trump so that the revolution might come faster and people might actually LISTEN TO US. But you don't. CB2 needs to burn, just like The_Donald, ImGoingToHellForThis, KotakuInAction. This place used to be a place where you could say "Wall a fascist" without the FASCIST MODS interfering. You think you're fighting fascism just by passively making fun of them? Us threatening them actually makes a difference. I thought this place could be saved but it couldn't. Min-ee-sotta, AngryDM, etc have been banned because they're too extreme for your precious little unenlightened liberal minds. So go ahead, let capitalism brainwash you. Vote for either party, it doesn't make a difference. Alienate the people who can truly end oppression with our VOICES and our REVOLUTION. BREAD, PEACE AND LAND ☭☭☭☭☭
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[–]acidroach420 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (19 children)
Liberals are insufferable. I'm out there winning minimum wage increases and paid sick leave for workers all across the country, but to people like you, playing a partisan once every four years is the sum whole of "politics".
[–]_pi 4 points5 points6 points  (18 children)
I'm not a liberal. I'm a pragmatist. As much as I like it there's no way to fairly and stability bring about communism in a capitalist democratic society without everyone in that society being a communist.
What's worse is when tankies come out to play and try to make policy like "quantitative easement" of student loans, or closing "free trade" as protectionism, or . For a philosophy that outlines the entirety of capitalism as a negative base people like you and Jill sure don't fucking understand it.
With policies like "democratize" the Federal Reserve and force union memberships you might as well vote for a fucking rock. As if co-ops are inherently less "evil" than traditional corporate holdings. I'm an immigrant from a communist country and like capitalism it's great on paper but humanity makes the two systems look very very close in practice.
Also in terms of minimum wage there's a whole slew of opinion out there including communist ones that increasing minimum wage doesn't work because it simply raises the product pricing to the maxima of profit and market bearing price in order to maintain margin.
Trying to force corporations to accept lower profit margins by lower labor cost efficiency is idiocy. Just control what you want to control directly, but it's unpopular so you have to backdoor with ineffective shit.
Also at the end of the day there is still a power structure and a meta power structure to any system that shitheads can abuse, no economic, government or religious system will be able to change that. Not even instant direct democracy by untampered cybernetic implant voting like in Stellaris.
[–]TroutFishingInCanada -2 points-1 points0 points  (2 children)
I'm not a liberal. I'm a pragmatist.
Literally means nothing.
[–]_pi 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
It means I understand that while I may agree with Communism it's pointless to vote for Communists especially when they don't know what the fuck they're doing economy wise and base their ideas on the stereotypical "we should all be nicer to eachother man" crap they're labeled with.
Which is why I'd rather vote for a neoliberal than Stien or Sanders.
[–]acidroach420 -2 points-1 points0 points  (13 children)
You sound like a conservative to me. You conveniently side-stepped my implied question: do you actually do anything? It's one thing to bicker on the Internet about politics, but I firmly believe that unless someone has experience working in the field, they're just spinning their wheels. Most of the mainstream media narrative is essentially regurgitating campaign press releases, while the real story of power and gamesmanship is left unsaid.
It has been funny to see the denizens of r/circlebrokeattr(title) go full reactionary this election cycle. DAE minimum wage should be zero?
[–]_pi 3 points4 points5 points  (6 children)
That's funny because I would actually vote for Jill Stein if she had sensible ways of doing things not policies from gazing into crystals.
Most of the mainstream media narrative is essentially regurgitating campaign press releases, while the real story of power and gamesmanship is left unsaid.
Yeah so uhh, right about that Hillary vote dawg. Who know's that shit better than her? Right Jill Stien because you learn so much of it being the Mayor of Lexington Mass.
[–]pompouspug 3 points4 points5 points  (5 children)
It has been funny to see the denizens of r/circlebrokeattr(title) go full reactionary this election cycle. DAE minimum wage should be zero?
wait what
I thought we were all filthy LIBRULS, what am I supposed to think now commie police pls help
[–]AutoModeratorKhiva[M] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
That's it. You've done it now. You are a target of the revolution. All of you in Circlebroke have continued to harass, mock, and worst of all ALIENATE us enlightened communists (Class alienation was an important marxist concept, look it up). You buy into the liberal propoganda they teach in high school and even college about Mao, Stalin, and their legacies. Turning a poor peasant nation into 2 of the most powerful nations in the world, but you cry about NATURAL FAMINES THAT WERE GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY. You are just like the moderates you make fun of you stupid fucking south parkers. Did you know every single -ism and -phobia is rooted in class? You can do all the activism, voting, and liberal lies you want, but if we do not have the class revolution it will all FAIL. We try our best, we post our memes, we defend the Soviet Union and other socialist states, but you make fun of us? For trying to destroy all discrimination? You are part of the problem. YOU are the racists. YOU are the homophobes. YOU are the sexists. YOU are the transphobes. What's worse is you claim you're not because you support liberal feminism and the false institutes of marriage (Gay marriage is a lie like all marriage, it needs to be abolished.) and buy into the transgender lie of the concept of gender, letting people become victims of abuse because it's "progressive". Both candidates end up in the SAME path, into the neoliberal mess of inequality and enforcing the oppressive capitalist state. Hell, you could at least support Trump so that the revolution might come faster and people might actually LISTEN TO US. But you don't. CB2 needs to burn, just like The_Donald, ImGoingToHellForThis, KotakuInAction. This place used to be a place where you could say "Wall a fascist" without the FASCIST MODS interfering. You think you're fighting fascism just by passively making fun of them? Us threatening them actually makes a difference. I thought this place could be saved but it couldn't. Min-ee-sotta, AngryDM, etc have been banned because they're too extreme for your precious little unenlightened liberal minds. So go ahead, let capitalism brainwash you. Vote for either party, it doesn't make a difference. Alienate the people who can truly end oppression with our VOICES and our REVOLUTION. BREAD, PEACE AND LAND ☭☭☭☭☭
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[–]AutoModeratorKhiva[M] 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
That's it. You've done it now. You are a target of the revolution. All of you in Circlebroke have continued to harass, mock, and worst of all ALIENATE us enlightened communists (Class alienation was an important marxist concept, look it up). You buy into the liberal propoganda they teach in high school and even college about Mao, Stalin, and their legacies. Turning a poor peasant nation into 2 of the most powerful nations in the world, but you cry about NATURAL FAMINES THAT WERE GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY. You are just like the moderates you make fun of you stupid fucking south parkers. Did you know every single -ism and -phobia is rooted in class? You can do all the activism, voting, and liberal lies you want, but if we do not have the class revolution it will all FAIL. We try our best, we post our memes, we defend the Soviet Union and other socialist states, but you make fun of us? For trying to destroy all discrimination? You are part of the problem. YOU are the racists. YOU are the homophobes. YOU are the sexists. YOU are the transphobes. What's worse is you claim you're not because you support liberal feminism and the false institutes of marriage (Gay marriage is a lie like all marriage, it needs to be abolished.) and buy into the transgender lie of the concept of gender, letting people become victims of abuse because it's "progressive". Both candidates end up in the SAME path, into the neoliberal mess of inequality and enforcing the oppressive capitalist state. Hell, you could at least support Trump so that the revolution might come faster and people might actually LISTEN TO US. But you don't. CB2 needs to burn, just like The_Donald, ImGoingToHellForThis, KotakuInAction. This place used to be a place where you could say "Wall a fascist" without the FASCIST MODS interfering. You think you're fighting fascism just by passively making fun of them? Us threatening them actually makes a difference. I thought this place could be saved but it couldn't. Min-ee-sotta, AngryDM, etc have been banned because they're too extreme for your precious little unenlightened liberal minds. So go ahead, let capitalism brainwash you. Vote for either party, it doesn't make a difference. Alienate the people who can truly end oppression with our VOICES and our REVOLUTION. BREAD, PEACE AND LAND ☭☭☭☭☭
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[–]acidroach420 -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
Lol is this for real? Anyone who doesn't tow the center-right, Democratic Party line is a Stalinist, apparently.
[–]_pi 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I asked for this.
[–]c4a 34 points35 points36 points  (20 children)
I've heard some leftists argue that people should vote Trump because it will usher forth the end times and convince people to take up communism.
I don't think these people are a large group but holy shit is that a terrible idea.
[–]survivalsong 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
Zizek recently made this argument
[–]heartbeats 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
Incredibly depressing. Zizek can afford make these kinds of bizarre accelerationist conjectures when he clearly has nothing to lose in a Trump presidency. There are real people and communities that will be incredibly negatively impacted, however, and this line of thinking somehow ignores all that while shrugging its shoulders at the real and concrete changes that a Trump presidency would bring about.
Not to mention that if the American public is willing to vote for Trump, who's to say that a great rethinking by both political parties will necessarily lead to a progressive, leftist future? Certainly, the set of people who support Trump aren't going to contribute to that.
[–]PrettyNeatPerson 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
I much prefer the political musings of famous American analytic philosophers to sniff filthy continentals.
[–]DuckHuntHotDog 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
That almost sounds like a black flag.
[–]Chidwick089 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I don't think that's exactly what is believed. There's a good amount of hyperbole baked in his statement.
[–]Chidwick089 -4 points-3 points-2 points  (13 children)
I think I'm abstaining today for similar reasons. I'm not too delighted by either option, and at this point I just want it to play out. Let people take it their own direction, my own isn't represented and telling myself that it is seems like a dishonesty to my beliefs.
No, I'm not hoping for the end times, I'm just hoping that people get what they want so that they can see it is unequivocally shitty (or great, I would love to be wrong) , and then we can move forward together.
Typing it out, I honestly don't think even that is possible though.
[–]JarheadPilot 21 points22 points23 points  (9 children)
Not to piss in the popcorn, but that's bullshit. You honestly are totally ok with either candidate? Even the one who's first 100 day plan involves frivolous lawsuits against newspapers that gave him unfavorable coverage by factchecking him?
[–]Chidwick089 -1 points0 points1 point  (4 children)
Trump won't become king just because he is president (assuming that happens, which I lean towards it being laughable). But if he did, he can't just go above the law. Checks and balances exist in our system to the point of fault occasionally. If trump were to actually attempt to attempt to enact any of HIS personal policies, the gridlock would keep him from doing any of it.
I think the benefit would be in people seeing that their "god emperor" didn't do crap. Seeing that the impossible promises that he makes can't really be fulfilled, and that more concrete, wide change is needed for the nation to move in a direction (hopefully not a bigoted, racist one).
No, I am not a trump supporter. I'm not a Hillary supporter, either. If I was going to vote for one, it would be for her. But I won't, because I refuse to vote out of fear or apathy.
Give me anything. Give me a direction other than fucking people my age over even further (I'm 20 now and work a full time office job, but god do I just feel hopeless to escape the terrible wave of anxiety and depression that I've had to deal with).
I hope that this helps explain this way of thinking to you. I am not looking for "the end times". I'm looking for people to collectively come together and put their foot down....and I honestly don't know if that can happen until things are bad enough that no one can deny it anymore.
[–]JarheadPilot 10 points11 points12 points  (3 children)
You're right, he CANNOT do many of the things he says he wants to do. However you can't say the president doesn't have massive influence. For example, he would have a huge influence on foreign policy. That could be a disaster were he merely incompetent, but he's also strangely in favor of Vladimir Putin. He's advocated weakening NATO (which Putin wants) he openly praises Putin and Russia, while the Kremlin hacks into US Systems in an attempt to disrupt our elections (in what looks suspiciously like a cyber-cold-war). Many of his advisers on foreign policy are now or have been in the past in the employ of Russian state-owned newsmedia.
This is just one part of the party plank. I don't think competent advisers can shield us from an incompetent man at the top, especially when he's shown such a strong preference for sycophants as advisers.
The whole thing I'm driving at here is these candidates ARE NOT IN ANYWAY WHATSOEVER equivalent. In a normal election between a generic republican and a generic democrat I would be entirely on your side. Don't vote if you don't care. Vote for a third party if they align more closely with your views.
This is not a normal election, these candidates are not equivalent. One candidate mishandled classifed materiel on an email server and the other wants US servicemen to commit war crimes. Donald Trump used a charitable foundation to illegally make campaign contributions to an Attorney General who was hearing a case on fraud (The AG later dropped the case and is under investigation). Hillary Clinton's Charitable Foundation took donations from foreigners (and that's pretty much it).
[–]Chidwick089 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
This is a good reply. Thanks for taking the time to write it out.
One question for you, do you honestly believe that under Hillary, things will get better for me and the people I love? My group of now 20-something friends, struggling through college on minimum wage and less than full time hours?
Important distinction. I don't mean "better than trump". I mean better.
[–]JarheadPilot 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
From a "how does that effect the price of beans" perspective, your best chance for healthcare and a rising minimum wage are under a Clinton presidency. I only had health insurance in college due to the provision in the Affordable Care Act that kept me on my parent's insurance.
Changes in the tax code will probably not effect you (being I don't expect you'll be hugely rich or poor in the next 4 years). Further down the road Clinton's proposed changes to the tax code with respect to childcare could be a really big deal for you if you and your spouse have kids and both work.
I'd be honestly very surprised if we saw any sweeping legislation like Obamacare, but I'd bet money Clinton will push to expand it. I think there's a good chance Clinton or the Supreme Court justices she appoints could overturn Citizens United and remove this flood of unaccountable money from elections.
Thanks for listening. I hope you make it to the polls today. Whoever you choose, you deserve to take part in our government.
[–]Potrumpkin_Villager 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Half of all public money is raised and spent by subnational governments (town, county, state, and so on), so a presidential vote proportionally has less of an impact than other votes (particularly since the President has no formal power over the budget). You might vote Clinton or Trump, and see nothing practically change under your preferred candidate because you live in a state that doesn't have Medicaid, and doesn't have a minimum wage higher than the federal standard.
But a president absolutely can chart a disastrous course in foreign policy, and, if you followed the presidential race closely, I'm sure you'll notice dramatic differences in what each candidate promises to do.
[–]KingOfWewladia 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
Not to piss in the popcorn
Where'd this get linked to?
[–]JarheadPilot 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
oh wait, this is the serious drama sub, not the lighthearted laugh at drama sub?
[–]KingOfWewladia 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
This is the smug tongue-clucking sub for tsk-tsking reddit's circlejerks, not a drama sub. "Pissing in the popcorn" also refers to commenting or voting in linked threads and the phrase is almost exclusive to SRD.
[–]JarheadPilot 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
I knew I shouldn't've taken that left turn at Albuquerque.
[–]SlabMcLargeHuge 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
You should at least cast local votes.
[–]Chidwick089 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
This, I will be doing. I think if a difference is to be made then it is here.
[–]PrettyNeatPerson 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
People have quite literally died for the right to vote, and it's not just for local elections.
This is your "Ethics 101" final, and it's the only question on the test. There are two bubbles on the Scantron. Don't fuck it up.
[–]l_________l 37 points38 points39 points  (0 children)
accelerationism.
Right into a brick wall.
[–]NinteenFortyFive 35 points36 points37 points  (15 children)
Reddit commies are rich kids pretending to be poor. It's why they are so open to violence; their parents will pay them out of any trouble.
[–]Suddenly_Elmo 11 points12 points13 points  (0 children)
Classic political tactic: claim, absent of any evidence, that everyone to the left of you is actually part of a hypocritical privileged elite who doesn't understand the "real world"
[–]CrushCoalMakeDiamond 20 points21 points22 points  (11 children)
Cool strawman bro, I fucking wish I was rich but instead I live in the poorest part of my country.
[–]DL757 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (10 children)
Did you vote or did you just jerk yourself off in euphoria?
[–]CrushCoalMakeDiamond 3 points4 points5 points  (9 children)
I see you're tryna follow up with a strawman of your own but unfortunately for you I'm British, couldn't vote even if you flew me over and dropped me off at a polling station.
[–]DL757 -2 points-1 points0 points  (8 children)
Did you vote in the Brexit referendum
[–]DL757 comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points  (6 children)
ok then you have a right to complain
otherwise I would have told you to fuck off
[–]CrushCoalMakeDiamond 13 points14 points15 points  (5 children)
Why? The referendum was an absolute clusterfuck of misinformation, I'm completely sympathetic to people who didn't know what they felt was best for the country and decided to abstain. We were asked to make a choice we weren't qualified to make, with no clear facts or knowledge of what Brexit would even involve.
I feel I made the right choice but I understand that others may have felt too overwhelmed and confused to make an informed decision and did not want to vote for the wrong future.
But yeah I voted, sorry for not validating your hostility towards communists, I'm sure you were just warming up with your completely uncalled for jab about jerking myself into euphoria instead of voting but unfortunately for you I jerk myself into euphoria while voting.
[–]ubuntufig 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
This, I could write a 10 page report on the nihilistic hypocritical ""communists"" over at /r/lscattr(title)
[–]KingOfWewladia 19 points20 points21 points  (0 children)
#NotAllCommieRedditors
I already cast my ballot
[–]RC2891 60 points61 points62 points  (14 children)
As a commie, it's kind of sad. Obviously I dislike the state of things and Clinton is nowhere near my ideal leader, but why the hell would that stop me from voting against Trump? I've never understood why people see voting now and revolution later as mutually exclusive.
EDIT: Full disclosure: I'm not America, this is just my two cents on the matter.
[–]kekkyman 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
Most people don't live in swing states, so if and how they vote generally doesn't matter. I live in Alabama, and saying Hilary has a non-zero chance of winning the state is being a bit generous.
If I lived in Florida or Ohio or something I'd consider voting for Hillary because she's the obvious lesser of two evils and it's not like it would take time away from anything meaningful I could be doing politically (unlike campaigning for her).
But my vote couldn't come closer to not mattering, so I'll place a protest vote for FULLCOMMUNISM instead.
[–]heartbeats 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
Democracy is run by those who show up. Not voting just because you don't live in a swing state means you're essentially playing a modified prisoner dilemma against all of the people in your state.
I hardly believe that all of your seats down ballot are uncontested. I hardly believe you agree with or are satisfied with all of the incumbent parties in those seats. I hardly believe if that's your stance that you even know of down ballot races.
Shirking your civic duty isn't cool or communist or intelligent, it's just you being a shithead because you think you follow politics because you read news about the presidential election on Facebook.
[–]canipaybycheck -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
That's easier to say for you, she definitely will not be your leader in the future.
[–]KingOfWewladia 12 points13 points14 points  (10 children)
I voted for La Riva for two equally important reasons: giving a small measure of support for socialist politics returning to the mainstream, and I got to cast a vote for PSL.
Win, win, win -- all winning all the time
[–]TroutFishingInCanada 1 point2 points3 points  (6 children)
More like "the only commies who get anything done".
[–]teaoverlord 5 points6 points7 points  (5 children)
thank u for getting gulags done
[–]TroutFishingInCanada -2 points-1 points0 points  (3 children)
kulaks didn't deserve it
-- You
[–]Budlight_year 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
Soviet Union was notorious for persecuting leftist dissidents (anarchists and leftcoms) and lqbt people by putting them into labourcamps. And hate violence against the ruling class is, ahem, "infantile". Revolution should use violence as a means of self defence, especially today when the class divide is so obfuscated.
[–]TroutFishingInCanada -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
All leftist revolution is self defence.
[–]Budlight_year 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Yeah, sorry, it came out wrong. What I meant by that, is the often present needless violence against the former ruling class in the and after the revolution. The acts are understandable, but I don't think they should be appraised.
[–]thank_mr_skeltal_bot 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
also thank mr skeltal for good bones and calcium
[–]KingOfWewladia 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
Ikr? But, voting is close to meaningless and takes very little effort, so I'm not terribly concerned about it. One does hope they pull and Öcalan and flip from ML to LibSoc, tho.

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