First up, dude, Elliot Rodgers was a psychopath. I'm not saying you're definitely not one, just that Elliot lied a lot and you have the wrong impression of him. He claims that "James" was his best friend - this man, since then, has pointed out that they were far from best friends and Elliot had always frightened him. Pretty much everyone else he vaguely knew says the same thing - "We spoke once. Not several times" (the latter suggested by Elliot's manifesto).

Get your facts right. He didn't kill 7 women. He killed SIX people, four of whom were men. And before you speak on behalf of Elliot, his manifesto explains why he killed 2 of these men. He thought they were geeks and losers (his two housemates whom he killed first). He thought they were uncool, disgusting to look at. He ranted in disgust over their lack of coolness in great detail.

Also, Elliot - like a lot of incels - will not sleep with just anyone. He made it very specific that he would only consider sleeping with blondes. In fact he would only voluntarily interact with blonde-haired women. When he was told his current social worker would be a woman, he only agreed on the condition that she was blonde.

So let's not act like you could have thrown Megan Fox or any hot brunette at Elliot and he would have gone for it. His obsession was to be white and have blonde hair and to have a girlfriend who also looked this way. He even died his hair blonde at one point. He was very specific about this obsession.

So no, if just ONE of these women put out ONCE he wouldn't have done anything differently. He avoided brunettes, and James recalls that Elliot did not once approach a woman. In Elliot's version of the story, a female student at the library told him she wouldn't date him, which he called one of the worst incidents of his life. James explained that what happened was that Elliot saw her from a distance, asked James if he thought he had a chance with her, and James said, "I don't know, why don't you go up to her?" and Elliot refused.

He also talked about having to kill his little brother because it looked like his brother might have a girlfriend. The only time I can think of Elliot voluntarily approaching a woman where witnesses have corroborated "this part is true" is where he walked up to the roof of a party and tried to push a woman off the roof (tried to kill her).

Most people don't respond flirtatiously to people who try to push them off high roofs.

It sounds like I know a lot more about Elliot than you do. And I can tell you this: if he were still alive today, none of you would be his friends. He would belittle you all. His entire manifesto is a stream-of-consciousness exercise with good editing which explains his hatred for "beta-like" men in great detail - every time he met a dude, he assessed the dude on looks alone, then treated him as a threat if he thought the guy was good looking or treated him like shit if he thought the guy wasn't good-looking (like his housemates).

So when you look up to Elliot, think about what he'd think of you personally. If you were in his manifesto, he would briefly mention your imperfections and dress sense and write you off as a loser. And he would internally laugh at you, way more than any "normie".

I don't understand how people can't see these "Manospherian icons" are all about making fun of the audience of men that admire them. Even a moron like Roosh can do it. You see in the doco Men At War that during Roosh's meeting, all the men there wanted their faces blurred out for the camera. Than Roosh got two guys to talk to the cameraman at the end. Roosh regularly makes fun of BOTH of these types of guys, which is why he put them in the firing line (putting their face on camera). If they get attacked for representing him, does he care? No. One was dressed in an odd, poor imitation of Matt Smith's Doctor Who, and the other was a regular slightly overweight man of possible Mediterranean origin who doesn't lift.

On his blog, Roosh would call these men losers. In real life, he used them to defend his own principles by using them as tools in front of the camera.

But by all means defend a man who wouldn't approve of you in the first place.