Simple advice on how to hold frame when girls you're fucking start saying "I love you". For those who turn right back into beta mode when one of their chicks starts getting them to play the love game, this is for you. Especially relevant for people who still believe, somewhere in the back of their mind and to some degree, that they can still find a soul-mate level girl who is awesome and really, truly loves them for who they are (aka a unicorn).

Whenever a girl tells you "I love you", treat it like a conspiracy theory. If someone told you that the trails plains leave in the sky are chemicals to sedate the population, you'd grin, laugh it off, and your brain would never, ever consider it to be true. Here's where guys who believe in the soul mate myth start to go wrong: when a girl starts telling him that she loves him, his brain actually entertains the possibility of that being true, which leads him to drop more and more frame over time as he tries to secure the love of his newly found unicorn.

It's natural that the beta/soul-mate-myth-believer should have this response. After all, he believes that it is possible to find a woman who truly and unconditionally loves him for who he is, and now that he begins to believe that this new girl may actually be that woman, he begins to slowly but surely revert to his beta male state as he clamors for this new love, eventually repulsing his woman in the process and ruining the relationship while actually thinking he was "deepening" it the whole time. The real problem here is that the woman may very well love him, but a female's love is much different than that of the unicorn that beta males believe in; a female's love is fleeting and highly conditional on the man retaining his alpha characteristics. This misunderstanding of how women love leads betas and men with weak frame to initiate the downward spiral of frame-dropping death when they start believing that the girl they're fucking actually loves them, and that's why you should never believe a girl when she says "I love you". Treating "I love you"s as conspiracy theories is a very effective way to dismiss the soul mate myth, hold frame in a relationship, and avoid beta-backsliding into a love-seeking chump.

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If you want love, get a dog or build some strong male friendships. Or go kick it with your family members if they don't suck.

When girls say "I love you", you should have the exact same reaction as you would to an outrageous conspiracy theory; humorous, playful in your response (if that's your style), but never for a second considering it truthful.

"I know"

Should be your only response.

Excellent post man.

The "I love you" trick is great for tripping up a man's bumbling ego. Wow she really loves me, look at her adorable doting on me! I must be so special. You only get to enjoy that for a little while, and when the blowback hits, it's really brutal on the old ego. She leaves for one reason or another, and it all of a sudden becomes personal. Now you're stuck in that limbo where you can't understand how is that possible, she loves you yet... she just left. Meanwhile, she can be perfectly ignorant about what a nuke she just set off in your heart/ego. She's just doing her woman thing, like she always was and will be.

But you're in your empty apartment grinding those teeth. Agonizing: either you're not really special (impossible!) or the whole thing is bullshit, a doll house game women love playing with their pet man (no! unthink that crimethought, I don't want to become a misogynist). But since you repudiate both the valid options, you might be stuck with this unresolved feeling for a long ass time. Until it finally is digested and turns into RP awareness, that accepts both valid options with eyes wide open & no special hostility toward the simple truths of life.

That said, and with all due precautions taken so as to not be taken in by the siren song, it's good to remember to reward her, give her an affectionate treat of some kind for being adorable. Make her "love" be about her and not about you, which by itself is a shocking display of high value and experience for a man, since it's completely alien to the beta's mind to think this way and yet it's the ONLY way a woman's mind thinks about the entire deal anyways. You'll be the only one who "really understands her".

woman: "I love you"

man: "that's my girl"

Or an older red pill advice of achieving the same effect:

When she says "I love you", hear "right now" at the end of her sentence. Works with just about everything she says to you.

I smirk and say, Yeah, I love me too

And when she says "Tell me you love me." You say "You love me."

Solid reinterpretation of a core TRP belief.

Hahahah love it already implement it in real life. Dont mind saying it back under the context.. Right now.

I feel that relationships require a delicate balance of alpha and beta behavior from us.

Don't drop your frame and be ready to marry the chick. But also dont be a complete dick and ruin the moment.

There were numerous good examples in here to answer that without breaking frame. Good post

I either ignore it or I put it straight that I don't love her... always worked for me. She is free to leave if she wants to, but I haven't seen anyone breaking up with me for it (till now anyway).

I'd say, either take it playfully, ignore it or say a plain no.

All my responses...

so much insight dropped here: women dont love men unconditionally, family isnt necessarily non-toxic and on your side, and....dogs!

it all boils down to the painful truth that men are alone. Pretending this isnt the case just means you are alone and clueless.

When she says "I love you", her brain has a little chemical reaction going on in which some feel good hormones are released. Of course, effects of this reaction can very well wear off immediately, if you react in a way she doesn't like.

Stop assigning that much weight to this little chemical reaction and you're on a good track.

Great reminder to everyone here about the duplicitous nature of their love.

Years of BP programming and romantic comedies brainwash men into thinking "love" is a desired state to reach in life.

It isn't. Because it's just air she breathes out of her mouth like any other dick.

Women aren't always smart but they're cunning.

They know these words are kryptonite to weak men. They'll use them accordingly to get them on their leash. Or to test them.

Unfortunately so many men would rather take the obvious lie of their love and be a Beta than be alone. Women leverage man's weakness in solidarity to manipulate them into being a partner and provider.

Is a man's love unconditional? Have you personally felt such a thing?

Ain't nothing wrong with conspiracy theories man. When you wake up to shit, you wake up all over. Chemtrails might be true, who are you to say?

If red pill is to conspiracy, then blue pill is to your absolute skepticism. Very fishy.

I don't want to be the first to say it, but as soon as the girl I am seeing says that she loves me, I'll straight away tell her that I love her too. I don't think that holding back, and not being true to myself and how I really feel makes me beta, but if it does, I don't care.