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[–]FacehAnti-Federalist - /r/Rational_Liberty 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

Kinda like how laws designed to protect minorities and women end up making it less appealing to hire them. Any business is going to be acutely aware of threats to their bottom line and public image.

Set up special protections to 'shield' them from discrimination, yet they always include some kind of punishment, so they can be used as a sword. "Be sure to hire women or we'll fine you" becomes "Hi, I'm a woman, and if you don't hire me I'm going to get them to fine you."

A black lesbian female becomes a walking lawsuit risk because anything that could be perceived as harassment or discrimination can result in penalties, not to mention office sensitivity training and all the accommodations you might have to make to keep them comfortable. BUUUUT it is illegal to discriminate in hiring, so you make up for the risk with lower pay or you find a valid excuse to fire them... or you move them to a department where they can't do much damage (read: have much influence). Start imposing equal pay requirements and then the jobs get exported to countries without said protections or done by genderless, raceless robots. By demanding special treatment it suddenly becomes clear just how replaceable (i.e., NOT special) you really are.

Even if minority candidates are technically as competent and proficient at their job as anybody else, the standard white cis male doesn't come with that sort of risk premium, and produces just as much value.

There is indeed a balance to be struck between accommodating everyone's needs on one hand and telling people to suck it up and quit whining on the other... but when the state comes in and starts swinging the long, heavy dick of the law around, the entire interaction changes. It is not a negotiation or even an plea for consideration when one party has a gun backing them up.


Simply put, the only way to make it TRULY more appealing to hire minorities/women (and not just as a PR stunt!) is to remove the special protections (basic protections remain, of course) and demonstrate that they produce as much value as everyone else. And part of producing value is learning to put aside your personal preferences for a larger goal rather than demanding everyone else conform to your ideals. It means adapting to an environment with the goal of maximizing long term success. And THAT seems to be the part SJWs don't want to accept.

You can try and make hiring artificially equal but the market isn't going to be fooled. The company hiring on a bunch of special snowflakes for diversity purposes even though they produce less value on average and bring lawsuits with them is less adaptive to a competitive business environment than the one made up of your basic office drones who don't complain incessantly and are willing to suffer discomforts as necessary. And if I'm deciding which company to hire with my money, I damn sure prefer the second one.

So yes, you'll be asked to sacrifice some of yourself in order to maximize everyone's prosperity. Welcome to the world.

[–]SuperspathiAspiring Helicopter Pilot 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The fundamental problem is that the snowflake SJW generation believe that they are entitled to perfection regardless of circumstance. They simply don't care if their demands ruin the business. If the business fails just blame patriarchy and demand more.

[–]FacehAnti-Federalist - /r/Rational_Liberty 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not sure if that is the fundamental problem, but definitely an issue with their mindset.

There's a disconnect between the fact that the modern world (in First-world countries) is full of luxuries and comfort... and the fact that maintaining these comforts and luxuries is the result of huge effort and lots of work by EVERYONE... and so you, too, have to put in the work to help maintain it. In order to have the comforts of modern life, you must suffer some discomforts to help provide some of that comfort to others who also want it. But if you grew up with it, you might not assume that comfortable life is just what happens by default.

Or not. But if you aren't putting in the work you sure as hell aren't entitled to the benefits.

Of course the government has done a lot to disconnect individual effort from success.

[–]ancap_throwaway1103 16ポイント17ポイント  (9子コメント)

Other than Chad smiling, it's sad how accurate this is.

[–]coupdetacoAnti-Communist and Anti-SJW[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

they want to get rid of chad, in order to add diversity

[–]LOST_TALEDo we share an Ideal? 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Your source?

[–]ancap_throwaway1103 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

10 years in the industry.

[–]PalestinianBankerCapitalist Anarcho-Dinduist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

he's smiling about his gains as an algotrader

[–]LOST_TALEDo we share an Ideal? 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Which? IT?

[–]andkongrero.com 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Male prostitution.

[–]UsesMemesAtWrongTimeBlack Markets=Superior 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Relevant flair

[–]kirkisartistdecentralist 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

u/coupdetaco

He/Him

shitposts pointless garbage on r/the_donald in his mothers basement, but calls himself anarcho capitalist

[–]coupdetacoAnti-Communist and Anti-SJW[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

/u/kirkisartist

xe/xir

proud owner of a collection of tinfoil hats. has unhealthy fantasies about cavity searches from johnson/weld.

[–]kirkisartistdecentralist 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

/u/coupdetaco

fag/fagotry

fag's scared of brown people and fag calls a far right authoritarian daddy

[–]stemgang 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You know what would be a good strategy for people willing to game the system?

Women after they get hired simply claim to be men, thus skewing the demographic, and creating an HR demand to hire even more women.

Soon you will have an all-women workplace, but that's ok, as long as half of them identify as men.

Remember that no matter how crazy an idea sounds, somewhere there is a person already putting it into practice.

[–]Sticky_mucus_thorn 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or half the white males start identifying as black women. You might be on to something here.

[–]PalestinianBankerCapitalist Anarcho-Dinduist 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

lost it at durkadurka lmfao

[–]despicable_secretRadical Queer 9ポイント10ポイント  (11子コメント)

That's because you've got the comedic sophistication of Biff Tannen.

[–]MacHeaton1308 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hey McFly! Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here!

[–]gbolton 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's make like a tree and leave. You sound like a damn idiot when you say it wrong

[–]tyluyAgorist 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You've obviously never seen Back to the Future.

If you're just trolling, then well played you got me.

[–]despicable_secretRadical Queer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only has he seen it, he's seen part 2!

[–]SpanishDukeWaldgänger 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Tell me more about sophistication, Radical Queer.

[–]despicable_secretRadical Queer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe after dinner. I'm busy phisting your father.

[–]PalestinianBankerCapitalist Anarcho-Dinduist -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Here's the thing. I'm an any Ivy League student. I have tangible "sophistication" to boast about.

If you take pride in comedy you must be a lowly retard with little accomplishments

[–]dombv 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

oooh nice nice an 'any ivy league student' i'd like to see that resume

"yeah i went to 'some ivy league school'"

"i have tangible sophistication"

what the FUCK is tangible sophistication i bet ur like 15 lmao

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    [–]dombv 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    yeah mmm gimme those insults im feeling ur tangible sophistication coming thru

    [–]despicable_secretRadical Queer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Here's the thing. I'm an any Ivy League student.

    You and everyone else on the internet. Lol. But seriously, you don't need to prove yourself to me. I'm not interested in cybering.

    [–]the_calibre_cat 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's funny... because it truuuuuueee

    [–]Drunk_King_RobertMutualist 6ポイント7ポイント  (21子コメント)

    but WHY don't WOMEN LIKE ANCAPISM?

    [–]FacehAnti-Federalist - /r/Rational_Liberty 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Maybe similar reasons they don't prefer coding/computer science as a career, yet you keep trying to get them in there, don't you?

    Maybe we should demand diversity quotas for anarcho-capitalism as well, that should fix our gender disparity, if the logic of leftists is valid.

    [–]baky_ssbmVapeNaysh 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I doubt they like mutualism either, ijs

    [–]Tawsix 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Because it requires competition and competition is the exact opposite of what the female psyche seeks out, for herself and especially for her offspring. That is why women don't like ancapism, or the free market in general.

    [–]FivebyFive 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So what does my psyche seek out then? Because I was pretty sure I was a human and just as capable as men of seeking out anything g I want just like men but now I'm not sure. I consider myself an ancap but I've just learned I'm apparently not capable of rational thought!

    [–]bobyra 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Yeah women hate competition, that's why there are no female sports teams and no women participate in the Olympics. They also hate the free market, I mean you never see women starting etsy shops to sell their hand made goods, and they definitely don't influence anything with their shopping choices in the fashion, food, and household markets.

    [–]FivebyFive 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thanks for being the voice of reason in this comment thread. It's disappointing to learn what my fellow ancaps think about women. I had no idea I was anti competition and only valued for my reproductive organs but good to know!

    [–]andkongrero.com 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    TL;DR I don't understand Bell curves or generalizations.

    [–]Godd2Oh, THAT Ancap... 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Did you just Bellsplain to me?

    [–]TopDecking 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Women are designed by nature to get resources from men without haven't to work for them but because they have value in their reproductive organs.

    [–]FivebyFive 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

    My value is in my reproductive organs? Seriously? Man this sub has started suckng.

    I'm here to talk about ancap ideals. How about y'all? You're here to talk about Chad and Stacey? How much women suck?

    [–]tyluyAgorist 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Alt-right has turned this sub to shit, thus demonstrating the public goods problem. I was skeptical at first, but /r/goldandblack continues to look like an attractive alternative.

    [–]rammingparu3Anti-Socialist 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    NAXALT

    [–]FivebyFive 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    How does that apply to what i said? I replied to someone saying women's value was their reproductive organs.

    [–]rammingparu3Anti-Socialist 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    That's biologically where the woman's value lies.

    [–]FivebyFive 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The comment I replied to when read in context implied that was their only value.

    I object to that assertion.

    If you disagree and believe that women only have value in terms of biology I can't imagine we'll have a productive conversation here.

    [–]rammingparu3Anti-Socialist 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    No, women have much more value (emotionally, spiritually etc.) but on a pure biological level it's in their reproductive organs

    [–]bobyra 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Couldn't the exact same statement be made of men?

    [–]rammingparu3Anti-Socialist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What the fuck is Mutualism?

    -Woman

    [–]UsesMemesAtWrongTimeBlack Markets=Superior -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Cool post coupdetaco. Want to bring it to the dumpster?

    [–]coupdetacoAnti-Communist and Anti-SJW[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    no I'm not bringing it to your home

    [–]LethnAnarcho-Voluntaryist 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Can confirm, straight white guy learning C# to help facilitate my art learning and make some real products to sell, I'm such a privileged cunt.

    Not going to lie, I laughed at the clock one :P

    [–]the_calibre_cat 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ironically, building clocks is the most productive thing of anyone on that list besides Chad.

    [–]kurokamifrAnarcho-monarchist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    fucking Clockmed