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Fascists who deny the Holocaust, why? (self.DebateFascism)

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I am of the view that the Holocaust did happen, and should never be repeated.

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[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 9ポイント10ポイント  (35子コメント)

I am of the view that the Holocaust did happen, and should never be repeated.

I am of the view that the Holocaust did happen, and should be finished.

[–]WittyPancakeCentrist Clintonite[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (34子コメント)

Why do you support the genocide of certain groups of people, many of whom had no choice in being apart of that group?

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 8ポイント9ポイント  (33子コメント)

Because they, as a group, have attacked us.

[–]EliTheRussianSpy 4ポイント5ポイント  (23子コメント)

I'm a Jew who bears no ill will against your people. I have never done any actions to harm your people. Am I still guiltyw somehow?

[–]RexAnglorumSaxonumGet married, make babies! (Monogamist, Natalist) 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm a Jew who bears no ill will against your people.

You don't have any ill will but other Jews do. As is always the case, it's the moderates who provide cover for the radical elements. If you see me attacking a subversive Jew, you'll endeavour to aid and protect him. It's a perfectly natrual response and I don't fault you for it at all. However when you work to protect subversive Jews, that implicates you which then makes you my enemy.

I have never done any actions to harm your people.

But you aid and provide cover for people who do. Which makes you just as guilty.

[–]Kyras_EdelweissNational Socialist 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

True. Just as much as I am guitly of living on Indian land. I am guiltly of their genocide..

[–]RexAnglorumSaxonumGet married, make babies! (Monogamist, Natalist) -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Exactly, now you're getting it.

[–]Kyras_EdelweissNational Socialist 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yup.

[–]RexAnglorumSaxonumGet married, make babies! (Monogamist, Natalist) 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Anyway, what's going on hunny? I don't see you around here much.

[–]Kyras_EdelweissNational Socialist 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ah, you know babe, just thinking about you..

[–]AHAPPYMERCHANTIntegralist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're collectivists and your collective has declared war on the White Race. Honestly, I'd be willing to forgive the Jewish people if they all went to Israel and agreed to live in peace with us, but that's not happening. Zionists have so heavily infected the West that there is no way out for us.

You should be happy, you've probably won.

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

Never said you are guilty, just that you'll suffer for your peoples' actions. We've suffered because of your kind, you'll suffer because of us.

[–]EliTheRussianSpy 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

Couldn't a Jew use that as a justification to attack your people?

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

They can. Doesn't look like they need justifications, though.'

[–]EliTheRussianSpy 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

It doesn't strike you as unfair that someone should be punished for something they didn't do?

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

No. It's group punishment.

[–]EliTheRussianSpy 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's the logic that ultra extreme leftists use, ex. that modern white people must pay for slavery.

[–]jakupsunAmerican Blackshirt 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

That is a very communistic idea

[–]jakupsunAmerican Blackshirt 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, dude, just wow

[–]rightenquirerAnarchist 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

What did Jews do to Hungarians that got them on this list?

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Took part in selling our land, led a revolution afterwards, resisted assimilation and considered themselves a several entity... A few years ago they've even threatened us.

[–]itachinosaigoppehMarket Socialist 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Can you expand on the land bit? Also, what revolution? Thirdly, if, say, Romania attacked Hungary with the same pretenses and genocided your people, would you think that was justifiable?

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Many of the people that were involved in dividing Hungary up were Jewish. There was a communist revolution in the inter-war era that was led exclusively ( And I'm talking exclusively ) by young Jews. They can do it, they won't.

[–]itachinosaigoppehMarket Socialist 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, if you are referring to post-WW1 break of Austria-Hungary many of the people were also, I presume, Brits, Frenchmen and Russians. Do you think they should be killed too?

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They were fighting a war against us, so no.

[–]AHAPPYMERCHANTIntegralist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The break up was a very specific matters. The actual rulers of Britain and France (not Russia, Russia had no say) weren't really giving their direct input. Hungary got absolutely buttfucked in the break up by the Jews who dominated the peace conference. The Jews purposefully drew the Balkans up in the most incompetent way possible in order to spark constants wars and it worked.

The interwar period is remembered by us as a time of peace and even economic explosion, but was absolute chaotic hell in Eastern Europe. Revolutions, civil wars, genocides, all ran wild. Their aim was to make the former Austo-Hungarian empire fall to Communism, which would then join with the USSR, and eventually overrun the rest of Europe at least up to the Rhine. They failed due to the effective work of counter-revolutionaries in the Balkans and due to their loss at the Battle of Warsaw in 1921.

[–]TotalenKriegNational Socialist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The 1919 Revolution, led by Béla Kun, a Jew who born in Hungary.

[–]OrwellzeTranshumanist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure that the Romans attacked Judea....along with the rest of their neighbors.

[–]citizen_beyond 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's most interesting about the Holocaust is that we (America and western Europe) both won that war and lost that war simultaneously.

We battled Germany, and if you believe the official narrative, stopped the Holocaust. Yet today we are saddled with the collective guilt of the Holocaust.

The very fact that this has happened makes me question the official narrative. If the people who stopped the Holocaust can be metaphysically saddled with the guilt of the holocaust, reparations, etc. then should we consider that the official narrative about the Germans may also be somewhat inaccurate?

[–]SouthronNationalistReactionary Southern Nationalist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

First you need to change your language from "why do you deny" to "why are you skeptical of", because by using the term "deny" you show that you are not interested in debate.

[–]swagnarok69Strasserist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The debate is in regards to the scale at which it happened and the intentions behind it, not whether it happened or not.

[–]paul190Nationalist Corporatist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because there's no evidence for it. Too many inconsistencies and cover ups.

[–]themcattackerSocialism without adjectives 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

  1. Lots of conspiracy websites.

  2. I don't get it either, if you hate jews so much why deny it?

[–]Vendetta55Strasserist/Titoist/Transhumanist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't get it either, if you hate jews so much why deny it?

It was simply a case of follow the leader, where the original Nazis denied it to try to save themselves, and the Neo Nazis either 1. Believed them and found any evidence they could to concoct a coherent narrative, or 2. Believed the Holocaust happened and realized that killing millions in the name of half baked conspiracy theories would be a huge black stain on their kind so they denied it.

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

The reason is simple. Once you actually read the scientists and researchers which have done work on the matter, its impossible to accept the holocaust happened. The evidence for it is just not there.

Secondly, what also affects one enormously, is how other people believe in the holocaust. Its similar to belief in other liberal ideologies (female wage pay gap, white priviledge, etc), its all about fanatical beliefs and not facts (usually the driving reason is opposition to Fascism, Nationalism, and general opposition to the White race specifically Nordic Germanic people. The holocaust ideology is the anchor of White/German Nationalism and they know it, its their greatest weapon against the White race).

99% of people who actually believe in the holocaust, have not done any holocaust related research, asked any tough question, or actually been to the camps themselves (I have done all 3).

This makes you realise that the holocaust believers believe in this story, because 1) Its told in highschool history books & media, 2) Going against that usually means social persecution of the worst level in the West.

So you realise that holocaust belief is not based on reason, but persecution, group-herd-behaviour (fear of being shunned from the group), and political reasons.

The fact that lots of holocaust believers are complete retards (and I dont use that word lightly as I dislike vulgarities), also pushes people in their retrenchments.

The usual reaction, when you make a calm argument against the holocaust:

  • You are a retarded kunt
  • You fucking nazi scum. You like killing Jews no?
  • How can you deny history? You retarded?
  • The Nazis (which are your friends, you cunt) had millions of record showing it happened, so how can you deny records your nazi friends compiled? (FACT: There are no records of gassings for genocide).
  • Survivors said it happened so it must have happened.
  • SS camp people have said it happened at Nuremberg (conveniently forgetting that the testimonies were extracted under psychological & physical torture).

I could go on.

Go examine the revisionist side, then come form a proper critique. Start here:

PS: I risk prison sentence for writing this comment where I am living. Already this tells much.

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

You are literally denying history, though. We have plenty of evidence for it, if only you would not dismiss anything that doesn't agree with you.

[–]reichsadlerScandinavism 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

if only you would not dismiss anything that doesn't agree with you

Just like you are doing now? I don't see you addressing any of the points made in the comment you replied to. They should be relatively easy to disprove, right?

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

What points? Ignorance is not a point. Ignoring evidence is not a point, either.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm certain you have done more research than Mr Faurisson, a historian and professor of Latin & Greek, who has done research over the matter for 40+ years and has been attacked physically for it.

[–]TheHunnicWhaleHungarian Clerical Fascist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

And I'm sure he has done more research then all the other historians, collectively.

[–]thezerechСлава Україна! (Banderist) 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why are both denying it happened and saying you want to kill all the jews? Can you Nat Socs at least be consistent in your insanity.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't want to kill all the Jews. Many so called "NatSocs" and other people on the right (and left) want to. I do not.

I think the Jews shouldn't be citizens of Western countries, but I don't believe in killing Jews.

I think genocide is not the proper method to deal with a people (mainly for reasons of efficiency, not love for the Jewish people).

[–]reichsadlerScandinavism 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's no logical inconsistency in saying both those things. I don't, but i can see why some would.

[–]Dinaric_Esoteric_BRacial-Integralism - Meritocracy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, you also believe in communism. I’m not against your holocaust Judean religion either, it’s a number often proclaimed by the Kikes after all for centuries. 6 Million. Oy, gevalt. Goyim.

It’s retarded to actually believe, but most people are conformist minded anyway and/or have an average intellect and they are programmed to conform, thus believing such complete drivel overall as well. The big lie as Goebbels called it.

So, they will conform to these disgusting Talmudic/Judean materialistic mass-murdering inbred freaks of nature. One thing I know for sure is that Jewry and the Jewish mind created communism and then highly financed its revolution in the early 20th century. Ended up killing 10’s of millions of Aryans/Eastern-European white people. Pushed largely for abortion laws as well, killing at least another 50-100 million healthy European babies there alone in that century and more across Europe as well. To say that I absolutely hate Jews, is putting it mildly.

With the reality of Jewry's strong malicious influence and lead within the plutocratic-liberal West as well, within this meaningless left-right linear dialectic, being so cancerous to mainland Europe overall, I’m at the point that I wish, really wish, it was true plus 10 million. Aka all of them. It’s the least that should have happened at this point looking at what is happening to Europe. But wishing and acting are two different things.

Of course it didn’t at all overall back then. It’s not in the Germanic Aryan character and the accommodations there were humane overall. The commies ended up killing more than anybody else as Jews ended up creating what they call a Golem in Stalin, who regularly massacred people and worked people to death in his Empire after WW2 as well.

[–]Papal_Bull_Connor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It did happen. So what?

[–]RexAnglorumSaxonumGet married, make babies! (Monogamist, Natalist) -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can't speak for others here but I don't deny it.

I do make fun of it though. They cram that shit down our throats so of course I'm gonna resist it. I'm a non-Jew, Anglo American, what in the flying flip does the Holocaust have to do with me? Nothing. Therefore I don't care about it.

Plus the kikes get so butthurt if you make fun of their sacred cow. They instantly turn into LOLCOWS. You can milk them for lulz all day long.

Moo motherfuckers, I hope you die in shower ovens.

[–]themcattackerSocialism without adjectives 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Moo motherfuckers I hope you die in shower ovens"

My fucking sides hurt so bad.