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Infinite Warfare weapon variants locked exclusively behind supply drops (twitter.com)

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[–]samboztralia 1080ポイント1081ポイント  (171子コメント)

Pay2win again. I suppose people didn't react negatively enough to the system in Black Ops 3 to discourage them from doing this again.

[–]MJIndian 198ポイント199ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yeah, once we got the weapon bribe everyone forgot about the black marker black out movement. So this is just gonna continue unless we stick to it.

[–]Treyman1115 64ポイント65ポイント  (1子コメント)

I forgot about it when I realized I didn't want any of the weapons

[–]vrihet 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

They made weapons unlockable outside of RNG? I quit shortly after the shadowcat/cossbow was released. Felt like bullshit.

[–]MJIndian 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, they had ONE special contract that allowed you one weapon bribe. And if you had the season pass you got one melee and ranged weapon bribe. So you could garuntee 3 out of like 25 dlc weapons. So it's pretty stupid.

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    [–]molestro 86ポイント87ポイント  (55子コメント)

    Well they threw Sledgehammer on the sword with Advanced Warfare to test the waters with this stuff. The imbalance of the variants and lack of regular balance patches really made that game pay to win once they introduced the supply drops as a purchasable item on top of a time-played drop. The ASM1 Speakeasy was at almost all times the dominant weapon in the game and became noticeable when you didn't use it (hoping that you'd get one, rng being what it is). Advanced Warfare was the most fun I'd had with COD since MW2 and seeing that game fall apart over time made me so sad.

    [–]iHeartCandicePatton 42ポイント43ポイント  (50子コメント)

    Honestly Advanced Warfare is pretty legit and overlooked

    [–]generic_username420 33ポイント34ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Had the best story out of the 'new-generation' cods as well

    [–]iHeartCandicePatton 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Agreed, Kevin Spacey was awesome in it

    [–]rowshambow 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Kevin Spacey is pretty awesome period.

    It might have the sole reason on why it was good....

    [–]CornflakeJustice 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It was also a generally fun campaign and the story was legitimately interesting.

    But yeah, Spacey probably saved it in a big way.

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          [–]Azazel_brah [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

          Favorite cod hands down. The exo movement made it so that anyone trying to corner camp was punished by the sheer speed of my character jet boosting through the door.

          Camping was the only problem ive ever had with call of duty and AW made it such a punishable strategy.

          [–]blazbluecore [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          I liked it for the fact that it was so much more adrenaline filled than other COD's it was all about out maneuvering your opponents and being accurate. Favorite CoD right next to Modern Warfare

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            [–]Tropican555 4ポイント5ポイント  (24子コメント)

            Perfectly Agree. It was the last Good CoD game.

            I am saddened that people hate it so much though.

            [–]Shasve [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

            With each new cod, n-2 was always the last good cod.

            [–]ScionoicS [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

            Here's what you do. Like what you like. Stop caring what other people like. You're allowed to like something if reddit tells you not to.

            [–]Tieblaster [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

            It's possible what he meant was due to how many disliked or overlooked the game, player numbers dropped very low.

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                    [–]Fredfredbug4 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    The only negative reaction they care about is losing money. People bitch about microtransactions and pay walls to know end but as long as people are still dropping hundreds and thousands of dollars on them then developers will keep putting them in games.

                    [–]Argosy37 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                    Precisely. And to exacerbate the problem, microtransationcs in games are funded by less than 1% of gamers. So that 1% of gamers addicted to microtransactions can literally ruin a game for the other 99%.

                    [–]zeppeIans 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    You mean pay for the game and then pay even more to win?

                    [–]CompletelySouledOut 18ポイント19ポイント  (68子コメント)

                    The variants don't really offer anything that makes it easier though, one offers extra xp and another offers critical for dick shots instead of head shots. It isn't really pay to win, still sucks though.

                    [–]xdownpourx 108ポイント109ポイント  (15子コメント)

                    The gun in the picture says it has a better damage range so what is the tradeoff for that. Sounds like it is just a better gun than the stock variant. That is pretty pay2win regardless of how minimal that benefit might be

                    [–]CompletelySouledOut 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    The tradeoff is you could have a variant you can unlock through scrap that has that option and another perk that increases your ability to kill instead of getting extra xp.

                    [–]xdownpourx 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    Fair enough I guess. This whole thing is still shitty to me no matter how they do the microtransactions

                    [–]ScionoicS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                    Microtransactions are indeed shitty. Cosmetics or not, they're shit. Valve is a market leader. Since they get away with it, everyone else tries to as well.

                    [–]obey-the-fist 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    Shitty, yes, P2W? Unknown yet.

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                        [–]tehSlothman 58ポイント59ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Crits on dick shots instead of head shots sounds like a significant gameplay advantage to me. The downside of going for headshots is if you miss by aiming too high you do no damage. And I'd bet that most guns' recoil patterns go upwards, which means when you're aiming for the head the recoil will make further shots miss, but if you're aiming for the dick, you'll keep hitting.

                        Dick shot crits basically means you're doubly rewarded for aiming centre mass.

                        edit: Though thinking about it, there'd also be the disadvantage that you can't crit someone who's prone or who's behind cover while they can crit you (bullets come from the head in CoD, right?) but even if it's a balanced trade-off, it's still completely unacceptable to hide the choice behind a paywall.

                        [–]MIKE_BABCOCK 45ポイント46ポイント  (10子コメント)

                        another offers critical for dick shots instead of head shots.

                        I will take that any day. You're basically rewarded for body shots

                        [–]MrWinklestein 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        This is definitely not true from what I saw in the beta and after watching one of Driftors videos. There's a variant that offers infinite range on an AR. There are multiple nuke variants and no way to get a nuke without one. There's a shotty that instantly reloads the clip after a double kill. There's a gun that gives you health after headshots. These all equate to pay to win, sorry to tell you.

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                            [–]xdownpourx 561ポイント562ポイント  (101子コメント)

                            This shit is going way too far. I ranted enough about this in the last thread on this topic, but $60 + $50 season pass + microtransactions + some of those microtransactions can give you guns with a stat boost to them + apparently now you can't craft some of these you gotta hope RNJesus is on your side. That is completely unacceptable to me.

                            Its a shame to because the campaign for IW looks really really cool. Side missions that give you suit upgrades or upgrades for your fighter jet. Weapon armories to upgrade different things. A mode without health regen, you have to have a helmet on to protect from headshots and the helmet will need to be replaced as it gets damaged, individual limb damage with different effects based on which limb it is, your fucking gun can be shot out of your hands, and a permadeath mode. This all sounds really cool along with the setting, ship dogfighting, eva fps gameplay, the stuff with your crew and your ship they talked about early on. If it turns out well I would really like to play this, but I can't support this game in the slightest. I would say I would wait for a sale, but considering the horrendous sales that COD games go on for Steam I don't think I will even do that

                            [–]Ghidoran 230ポイント231ポイント  (35子コメント)

                            Honestly I'm amazed that people still defend this. You have a multiplayer game with DLC map packs, that's bad enough. On top of that you have microtransactions, AND they're microtransactions that actually give you gameplay-altering stuff like guns. Oh, and this is all for a $60 game that releases every year with minimal changes. What the hell do they need that kind of money for?

                            Overwatch uses cosmetic microtransactions to fund free content down the line, and it's a game that's going to be supported for years if Blizzard's track records are any indication. And they still get shit for their model. CoD shouldn't even have microtransactions, let alone ones that give you guns. It's absurd.

                            [–]nofear220 83ポイント84ポイント  (11子コメント)

                            Oh, and this is all for a $60 game that releases every year with minimal changes. What the hell do they need that kind of money for?

                            Solid gold yachts, but actually I think it might just be them testing how much they can fuck their extremely loyal fan base to keep the dying franchise as profitable as earlier iterations.

                            [–]zeppeIans 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            They're testing how much money they can squeeze out of them

                            [–]bigthagen87 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Exactly. It's no different than Apple products, sports video games (in a sense), etc. People continue to buy each new iteration every year, so they just continue to do jack shit to innovate. When they finally stop selling to the masses, they they will begin to innovate again. Look at a Assassin's Creed - they hit a wall and finally stopped releasing every year, and I bet the next game ends up being one of the best.

                            [–]Letracho [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                            Do you have proof that it's dying?

                            [–]infecthead [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                            https://www.statista.com/statistics/321374/global-all-time-unit-sales-call-of-duty-games/

                            the last 3 iterations of CoD have sold less than their earlier counterparts. They still sell really, incredibly, well, but a decline nonetheless.

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                              [–]Neuromante [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              You spelled "increase profits to the shareholders and monetize the experience" wrong, man.

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                                [–]cefriano [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                What the hell do they need that kind of money for?

                                Creating a new campaign is where the large majority of the budget goes (this has been stated by COD devs in the past, it's something like 80% of the development budget). Plus doing concept design and modeling for all the new weapons (and all of them are new, with several having significant gameplay changes from guns that may have fit the same archetype in the past). Plus updating the engine, plus the additional systems created for this title (there was no system in place in previous games that was even slightly analogous to the dogfights in IW, so that had to be built from scratch). New maps, even re-skinned versions of old maps, don't just pop into existence for free. Then there's zombies, which required a ton of new assets since it's not set in Treyarch's zombies universe.

                                So there's plenty to spend money on, regardless of how little you feel the series changes from year to year. But I'm sure this will get buried under the "solid gold yacht lol" comments.

                                [–]iHeartCandicePatton 33ポイント34ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                every year with minimal changes

                                Ok, that argument used to apply but idk if you can say Advanced Warfare and Infinite Warfare are minimal changes. At least in terms of the campaign, IW looks to be on a different level.

                                [–]some_random_guy_5345 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                The engine/graphics is nearly the same every iteration which is the bulk of the work

                                [–]AL2009man [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                at least the devs admits that Advanced Warfare runs on a new engine and borrowing certain older tech from previous engines...

                                [–]fourunner [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                That's pretty much how it's always been though. Just revamping the engine, adding in some new tools.

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                                  [–]Ghidoran 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Fair enough, I don't have a problem with them charging $60 for it, but anything more than that seems ludicrous. The games can't possibly be that expensive to make, compared to other big AAA titles out there, considering how much of the groundwork gets laid the previous year.

                                  [–]iHeartCandicePatton 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Games are pretty damn expensive to make. I'm not defending the multiplayer shenanigans BTW. Just pointing out that at least in terms of the story, they are trying something different.

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                                      [–]oneshibbyguy 41ポイント42ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                      $80 if you want COD $4$: MW

                                      [–]GiverOfTheKarma 24ポイント25ポイント  (28子コメント)

                                      the Modern Warfare remake is the only reason I would consider spending any amount of money on this game

                                      [–]gh0stdylan 8ポイント9ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                      I'm hoping I find someone selling their key or from CD keys. I have zero desire to play this game after AW and BO3.ive been playing MW3 on my 360

                                      [–]TheHeadGoon 12ポイント13ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                      You need to have IW downloaded as well

                                      [–]gh0stdylan 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Of course you do.

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                                            [–]_REDSTOOL_ 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Hopefully this doesn't involve getting many pairs of used Nigerian police pants like Advanced Warfare.

                                            [–]rindindin 184ポイント185ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                            Wait, so you can't use ingame points or whatever to get these variants? They're only accessible to additional paid for content?

                                            Why bother playing the game then? Micro-transaction is just hellish on the consumer. It really does force someone to fully invest in a game cause you don't want to waste the money you spent on a specific game...then they put a sequel out and the cycle begins anew. Just, no point in paying for this kind of content.

                                            [–]lsavag3l 36ポイント37ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                            Exactly. I'm not a fan of the system even without this news, I think adding better weapon variants without any downside is always going to be worse. This is just the shit cherry on top.

                                            It frustrates me so much that Activision knew the backlash this would cause and predicted the hate this newest game would receive, so they coupled the remaster with it. Even as someone who adored COD4, I will have to miss out on it, at least for now, because I could never stomach supporting this bullshit.

                                            [–]iPieface[S] 61ポイント62ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                            You can buy crates with ingame currency and get these but unlike the other variants you can't craft them. But yeah, just another horrible business practice. I was heavily contemplating getting it for MWR but I might just skip it now.

                                            [–]rindindin 47ポイント48ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                            You can buy crates with ingame currency and get these but unlike the other variants you can't craft them.

                                            Drop chances are probably abysmal though. This game costs triple-A prices too. How can anyone support this kind of practice?

                                            [–]crimzonphox 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                            Maybe they'll add a monthly subscription to cover all their monetization bases

                                            [–]TashanValiant 26ポイント27ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                            They kind of already tried that with Call of Duty: Elite

                                            [–]crimzonphox 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I think I still have my card from the limited edition set...

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                                                  [–]BBanner 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  No, you get these in game points to buy supply drops and you use those to roll dice. More expensive the drop more likely the rare items drop

                                                  [–]elitegenoside 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  You can use ingame currency to buy the crates.

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                                                    [–]cartofu 112ポイント113ポイント  (63子コメント)

                                                    I fucking hate this Loot Crate dumb ass trend that is going on in gaming for the last few years. It has been added to almost every genre. It started with physical card games and it has infested every single popular multiplayer game: Hearthstone, Dota2, CS:GO, FIFA, Overwatch, CoD, Battlefield, Rocket League, Battlerite. And you know what's fucking more insane? They make millions, even hundreds of millions off of this kind of microtransactions. It's bonkers, and it's here to stay.

                                                    [–]denzacetria 36ポイント37ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    The thing with Dota it's a game that is F2P. Loot crates in Dota specifically, you can buy individual cosmetics that you like most of the time. There are lottery style crates but those are usually for big events (Majors, TIs). Many of those games have cosmetics that you pay for, but don't have any effect on the actual gameplay, unlike this upcoming COD

                                                    [–]hbarSquared 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    (psst... r/titanfall) 100% microtransaction free, no maps or modes locked behind DLC.

                                                    [–]HardDifficulty [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                    They said that they'll add microtransactions for cosmetics only sometime down the line, they have to fund the DLC development if they're gonna release maps for free.

                                                    [–]ANewMachine615 20ポイント21ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                    I mean it's kinda understandable in Hearthstone since that is a digital ccg, which basically invented the loot crate in the form of boosters.

                                                    [–]Mhunova [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                    I'm fairly sure TF2 invented/popularized the current loot crate system.

                                                    Thanks Valve.

                                                    [–]ANewMachine615 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                    Eh, Valve was different because the had both crates and keys, earned separately. Nowadays most cut out the keys aspect and just let you open the damn things. But overall, yeah, you're probably mostly correct, people saw the killing Valve was making off goddamned hats and wanted a cut.

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                                                      [–]SC2Humidity [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                      It makes sense in free games like Hearthstone, Dota 2, Team Fortress 2... because they're free to play.

                                                      [–]OverlordQ 18ポイント19ポイント  (43子コメント)

                                                      CS:GO [...] Overwatch

                                                      Everything in these games is cosmetic only, so if that rustles your jimmies, well I feel sorry for you.

                                                      [–]terretsforever 43ポイント44ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                                      The thing is, 10, 20 years ago those were all unlockable, you play the game and you execute something, whether it's a special goal or just the hardest challenge & you get a new costume, a new character. Now it's locked behind this wall. It doesn't matter if I pour my 100's of hours into this game, I still won't get the think like I could in Tekken 2.

                                                      [–]corybyu 19ポイント20ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                                      The main difference is these companies need to pay for all the servers, etc., and also if they are going to keep adding maps/heroes/other content (which we don't want to pay for, obv), this is the way to fund it, while also giving you the chance to get some extra cosmetic stuff just by playing.

                                                      I love Overwatch loot box system as a gamer, and it is much much better than a lot of the other crap out there (and significantly better than CS:GOs system, btw).

                                                      [–]MrSasse [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                      People bitch about the cosmetic loot boxes but games are much cheaper to buy now compared to 20 years ago and they cost a lot more to produce. Would you rather have cosmetic rng boxes or pay $160 for a game?

                                                      [–]salvation122 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                      $160 US is a stretch. $55 in 1996 is ~$85 now.

                                                      That's before DLC maps and such though I guess.

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                                                        [–]nuggins 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        In Overwatch, at least, there is no concept of unlocking the crates. You simply get one upon leveling up, and can open it immediately. You also get currency, both directly in the loot box and from duplicate items, with which you can buy directly any cosmetic you want.

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                                                          [–]stanley_twobrick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                          That's where it starts. Everyone knows these systems are exploitative, but we roll over on it because it doesn't affect gameplay. Eventually they start adding small stat boosting items to the crates, we all complain but keep playing because it's not like they affect gameplay that much. Sooner or later all the best items are locked behind shitty gambling systems and nobody can get their voice heard about it because it was a slow transition.

                                                          [–]blisf 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          I used to agree, but this is using psychological warfare to make me feel bad for not opening these. I don't want to feel bad when I play a game which I payed $60 to play (in the case of overwatch and many more).

                                                          F2P? sure, I get to play the game for free but they are pressuring me to purchase stuff. Payed? Not dealing with that.

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                                                              [–]Ltg1988 106ポイント107ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                              Hey guys just buy titanfall 2. Everything they add to the game is free and what do you know that game is awesome!

                                                              [–]SnowGryphon 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                              I JUST FINISHED THE CAMPAIGN A COUPLE HOURS AGO I LOST MY SHIT

                                                              [–]LG03 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                              Too broke to be buying full price new release AAA games or I would be in favor supporting good business models like this.

                                                              Shit's gotten too expensive across the board though in the last 1-2 years.

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                                                                [–]tneswick2 44ポイント45ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                God I hope this game sells horribly. Maybe Activision will listen to their fan base next installment. Or maybe they'll wise up and cash in on selling COD4: Remastered as a standalone.

                                                                [–]Manic020 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                Maybe Activision will listen to their fan base next installment.

                                                                They already are. They wouldn't be doing this if their casual audience (i.e. ~90% of CoD players) didn't eat it up every year.

                                                                [–]tneswick2 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                Ehh, I guess that's true. But those same fans would probably buy a modern warfare game same as they buy this, they just want call of duty, why not please both fan bases?

                                                                [–]Manic020 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                I was speaking more to the microtransactions, but I would say because it's more risky and carries increased costs for not much more profit (or possibly less profit) compared to their tried-and-true income stream from casual fans who won't care either way. Those are just my guesses, though. No way to really tell without direct access to Bobby Kotick's brain.

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                                                                  [–]GiantSquidd 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                  Or maybe they'll wise up and cash in on selling COD4: Remastered as a standalone.

                                                                  Honestly, the cod4 remaster is the only reason I even considered getting this game. Fuck Activision.

                                                                  [–]tneswick2 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  I'm not gonna get it, I'm banking that it will be standalone eventually. I'll stick to all the games that are actually good that are coming out. (Gears, Tittyfall, etc.)

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                                                                    [–]Secretly_A_Skeleton [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    The game could literally just be a picture of dat boi and still sell a million copies.

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                                                                      [–]Spader623 139ポイント140ポイント  (69子コメント)

                                                                      Until you guys stop buying and supporting this disgusting shit, it will continue. And you won't, so suffer the consequences.

                                                                      [–]deadly_inhale 37ポイント38ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                      The people who buy and support this stuff generally are a different demographic than the people who browse /games.

                                                                      [–]panic_fist 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      People buy the games because they enjoy it and find it worth the money.

                                                                      It's like bitching because people are willing to buy Prada and Guchi and shit. I think it's stupid to pay 500$ for a pair of plastic sunglasses. But I don't mock people who do, because it's a personal choice.

                                                                      You can vote with your wallet. You can't yell at clouds to make them vote with their wallet, and being a smug dickhole isn't helping. I've never bought a COD game because I don't like fast games with low TTK.

                                                                      [–]Dr_Findro 43ポイント44ポイント  (38子コメント)

                                                                      Suffer the consequences? It's a video game man, let's not be dramatic.

                                                                      EDIT: Seemed to have riled up a few people, some guy even compared supply drops to the rise of WW2. But I'm outski, y'all can find me on COD4 tonight.

                                                                      [–]Wyatt1313 78ポイント79ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                      One minute it's a game with shitty micro transactions, next minute it's invading Poland.

                                                                      [–]GiantSquidd 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      That escalated... predictably, actually.

                                                                      [–]Manic020 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Someone in one of the GTA threads earlier compared GTA:O's business model to people dying of world hunger, so this almost seems tame in comparison. At least invasions of Poland don't happen anymore (not lately, at least).

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                                                                        [–]DirectorPhiICoulson 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Remember the good ol' days when we fought Nazis instead of robots? By gum we've come full circle with this Call of Duty talk!

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                                                                          [–]Kittenwithbeer [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                          You're in a video games hobbyist subreddit for discussion on video game news and industry events/leanings.

                                                                          Just informing you in case you got lost on /r/all.

                                                                          [–]nilshasskills 24ポイント25ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                          it's not just one video game. it's a steady pattern in the entire industry that's getting worse.

                                                                          [–]B-Knight 23ポイント24ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                          let's not be dramatic.

                                                                          It's not being dramatic, it's just a stronger way of saying: "You let this happen, so don't complain and accept the shittiness you get in return". The word "consequences" is not restricted to things which are extremely bad. A consequence can be big or small.

                                                                          Anyway, this is a trend that is currently going on within the gaming industry. That's the issue. And fucking idiots are letting it happen because they keep spending money on stupid shit like this. Crazy idea: Don't buy the fucking game if you don't like this shitty trend. Is that going to stop people? No chance. That's the issue.

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                                                                              [–]INemzis [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                              It's been mentioned a few times in this thread already, but I can't recommend Titanfall 2 enough, its just so damn fun to play, and I've played most of the COD's. By far my favourite MP of them all. It's released in an awful window between BF1 and COD, so it needs word of mouth to get the recognition it deserves. Consider this my word of mouth! ... or fingers.

                                                                              [–]mynameiswrath 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                              Bought BO3 and really enjoyed it until the honeymoon phase wore off. Then they added the guns in the Black Market and so much other stuff behind paywalls. Buh bye, no more COD for me.

                                                                              [–]Jimbuscus 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                              After 7 CoDs in a row, I bought the Season Pass for BO3 one week prior to the Supply Drop weapons because I was happy with how they had moved away from P2W dlc from Advanced Warfare and enjoyed BO3

                                                                              After 7 years & 7 CoDs with the odd dlc purchase, Activision can bugger off, I never even got to play most of the Season Pass maps from BO3, I have absolutely no hankering for any new CoD but I will pick up Titanfall 2 if it's playerbase sticks around

                                                                              [–]mynameiswrath 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              Yep same thing with me. I was into it, friends were having a good time, so I got the Season Pass and then was pissed when everything else was tacked on. Sad thing is that people continue to buy it so it'll just keep on happening. I'm looking forward to Watch Dogs but their DLC stuff looks shady too.

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                                                                                [–]theycallme_t 14ポイント15ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                What's even worse is the genius and devious idea to package it with likely the very best COD game. So people are going to buy this shit game just to get Modern Warfare and they win regardless. COD needs to die people, we need something new and better

                                                                                [–]PrinceHabib72 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                package it with likely the very best COD game

                                                                                Nostalgia goggles. Modern Warfare had so many problems no one wants to acknowledge right now. M16, MP5, Stopping Power, Martyrdom, Juggernaut, Last Stand, x3 Grenades, M40A3 ACOG glitched to be a one shot kill anywhere... MW was the first modern CoD, but it's far from the very best CoD game.

                                                                                [–]TheCaliKid89 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                                                For anyone upset by this stuff: Come play Titanfall 2! Fantastic campaign and multiplayer, promise of no paid dlc, and no other lunacy like this.

                                                                                [–]TheBari 35ポイント36ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                Just a friendly reminder that Titanfall 2 has no micro-transactions and all dlc maps/weapons will be free

                                                                                [–]l3utters 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                Just to make sure people know...not every varient is locked behind the supply drops, only the ones in the picture are. It's fucked up don't get me wrong but be accurate with the title please.

                                                                                [–]oneshibbyguy 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                Seriously, fuck. this. game. Activation is Actively being as greedy as fucking possible with this one. I hope people are not eating this shit up or I fear this kind of thing will be the end all be all norm for video games.

                                                                                edit:punctuation

                                                                                [–]iHeartCandicePatton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Wasn't there a post here about this last week?

                                                                                Anyway, Infinite Warfare was the first COD game that I had any pre-release interest in since MW2. The campaign looks insane. However I don't know if I want to support pay-to-win shenanigans. So I used that Target buy 2/get 1 free deal on Titanfall 2, Battlefield 1, and Skyrim Remastered instead. I still wanna play the IW campaign though. Maybe I'll buy it used.

                                                                                [–]theholylancer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Basically why they bundle the remaster. People who object to this plays the remaster and everyone else the pay to win.

                                                                                Unless the remaster had the same thing

                                                                                [–]DoctorWaluigiTime 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Not enough people care about it, so of course they'll keep doing it. Cash cow gets fatter. Who cares about even playing fields when you can make more money?

                                                                                Despicable.

                                                                                [–]ChillBusta 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                RNG loot crates are one of the things I wish would of never became popular in gaming. No matter the price or how good a game is, it feels like a stupid waste of time.

                                                                                [–]CivilityBeDamned [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                So stop buying this bullshit? Seriously. If you buy this, you are supporting this behavior, end of story. I know...millions of idiots are keeping this stuff coming. Thanks guys.

                                                                                [–]getintheVandell [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                You know what isn't behind paywalls? Titanfall 2. 0:3

                                                                                [–]PayForYourGas [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                I really dont' care about weapon variants in the least. I don't need camel dick patterned M4's and anyone who pays for that shit is dumb as fuck anyways.

                                                                                [–]Duelse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Glad I'm skipping this game. It's going further and further down the shitter with each move they make.

                                                                                [–]Pduke 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                I haven't played a COD game in years! I was really eager to jump into this one, but this practice of locking content behind a pay wall of sorts is insulting unfortunately, with the size of this franchise, I don't think it matters they will still sell plenty of copies

                                                                                [–]shizzy1427 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                This game just keeps looking worse. The only reason they think they can get away with this awful business model is because they're sure everyone will buy it anyway. Please don't support it.

                                                                                [–]_Swae_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                It's laughable to me that there are people STILL trying to defend this disgusting business practice.

                                                                                RIP COD.

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