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Karbach to be acquired by Anheuser-BuschInBev (chron.com)

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[–]pumpkin_blumpkin 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

2016 what the fuck?

[–]glassuserPearland 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well it's not like we didn't get a sign of the end times last night.

[–]KodiakAnorakRiverside Terrace 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

What did I miss last night?

[–]handsomesteve88 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cubs winning the world series

[–]Ganonderp_Fuck Comcast 85ポイント86ポイント  (7子コメント)

Brash Brewing has some news of their own.

[–]BVeeDub 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

And this calls for some Vulgar Display of Power.

[–]AgDrumma07Near Northwest 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are marketing geniuses.

[–]taking_a_deuceMontrose 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've never heard of Brash. Are they any good? Can I buy them at any grocery or liquor stores around town?

[–]Jaysol60 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't but Flying Saucer Downtown is having a lot of their beers on tap today for International Stout Day!

[–]sithadminUpper Kirby 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to get a growler fill for Brash. Pretty sure they don't bottle or can for retail yet.

They were filling crowlers on-premises at one point, not sure if they still are.

[–]s3collins 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The owner of Brash also owns Petrol Station. You can always find Brash on tap there. And yes, Brash is by far the best brewery in Houston, imho.

[–]PiousAugustusDowntown 120ポイント121ポイント  (65子コメント)

Well that sucks... They were my favorite local brewery.

I guess it's kind of like when FPH sold Summer Fest. It's like, "Well this was successful, so we might as well cash out now."

I'll miss you, Love Street.

[–]shinebock 49ポイント50ポイント  (28子コメント)

Well this was successful, so we might as well cash out now."

Pretty much... Back to drinking more St. Arnold's, and other truly independent places.

[–]BurnedBiscuits 56ポイント57ポイント  (24子コメント)

This is where you give Brock his props. He could have sold out a while ago but he didn't. Bless him.

[–]KijafaSeabrook 11ポイント12ポイント  (13子コメント)

Shit he could sell out now for even more if he wanted.

[–]CheapBeer 9ポイント10ポイント  (11子コメント)

Don't jinx us!

[–]KijafaSeabrook 13ポイント14ポイント  (10子コメント)

He still does tours himself like every weekend. I don't think that's gonna happen.

Plus if he wanted to just make money he would've stayed in banking.

[–]CheapBeer 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yep. I actually remember reading an interview a while back where he met with a representative from either Miller-Coors or ABI. The representative threw a hypothetical question asking how much would it take for him to sell the brewery. He threw out an extremely inflated number and the guy came back 20-30 minutes later with the offer.

They're hungry and given the chance, would take out every brewery here if they could.

[–]KijafaSeabrook 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well yeah, they want to stay dominant. There's no way they're gonna come up with a Budweiser IPA and people aren't going to support a new "craft" brewery that's run by ABI or Miller-Coors. Much easier (I'd imagine) to buy out an existing brewery that has a good reputation and market share and try to keep people from running.

[–]Snatch_Pastry 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shock Top? Blue Moon? Killian's?

AB and Miller-Coors make plenty of pseudo-craft stuff. They just do a good job of separating it from their big name brands.

[–]KijafaSeabrook 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shock Top? Blue Moon? Killian's?

That's not craft beer though IMO.

[–]FARTBOX_DESTROYERJersey Village 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Except they'll probably cut corners in all the wrong places and screw the employees out of every dollar they can, as corporations do.

[–]KijafaSeabrook 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe. I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm just pointing out it makes sense for ABI or Coors to buy breweries instead of trying to come up with stuff themselves.

[–]BennyscrapMidtown 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it's one Saturday every month actually, but that guy knows beer for sure.

[–]KijafaSeabrook 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That makes sense. I just know the handful of times I've gone on the tour he's been there and seemed to be really enjoying it.

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      [–]redlead3Atascocita 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Screw that! Rodeo Clown is the beast!

      [–]shinebock 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      It is so good. Probably my favorite Karbach beer

      [–]Ganonderp_Fuck Comcast 29ポイント30ポイント  (13子コメント)

      FPH switched to doing Day for Night. And I guess I'll be switching to St. Arnold's.

      [–]hottNpopular69 27ポイント28ポイント  (11子コメント)

      Brash 8th wonder Town and city Buffalo bayou Southern star No label

      [–]IPoopBeforeIShowerSpring 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

      11 Below has some great beer Brash is my favorite Houston brewery

      [–]TX_heatEnergy Corridor 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Town in City is a pretty low key place. I hope they get some traction because they have some good people and good beer out there.

      Edit for name change.

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        [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

        There's a shit load of other good Houston area micro start-ups to choose from as well now. But I'll be damned if I won't miss going straight to the Karbach section of the beer fridge.

        I know a few people that work there. I'm guessing they took this news pretty hard as I know how much they hate AB.

        [–]crowscountingspades 47ポイント48ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Can't hate 'em for taking the money... M&A is my bread and butter, and there's no question, certain assets are more valuable in the hands of owners better positioned to milk their worth. (Karbach will enjoy a quantum leap in distribution and marketing savvy.)

        But neither can anyone fault you or me for deciding, meh, it's good beer, but I'd rather support some other locally owned brewer.

        [–]beford 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

        damn you for providing a fair and reasonable take!

        [–]ChempyMedical Center 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Yeah, unfortunately they couldn't stay a small brewery for ever. The only way to grow even larger is to take steps like this. Increased production, larger distribution, and better marketing.

        [–]crowscountingspades 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Yep...it boils down to: are you running a lifestyle business OR do you want a value-focused business?

        If I had an asset I could sell and retire on? I'd sell it and start a NEW lifestyle business! (LOL)

        My guess though? They probably have an earn out clause that keeps the current owners/senior management/skilled employees engaged in the business through bonuses that get paid out over time based on key milestones/metrics. After that? There could even be some non compete elements.

        So much fun!!!

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          [–]DeadlyDMontrose 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Don't be too sad. We just had about 6 breweries open up in the past few months. Lots of new good beer to try. Chin up.

          [–]mainsworthMontrose 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Love Street is actually one of the brews they're most interested in.

          [–]BurnedBiscuits 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

          Oh great, so they're going to end up ruining it

          [–]Proteus713 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

          I doubt they'd change the existing product. What incentive is there to do that especially if this was a pet project of ABinbev as other posters have said? ABinbev actually owns or has a large share in tons of craft labels... The product won't change it really just depends on how you feel about supporting local vs a big corporation.

          [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

          While the recipe may not change, you can be sure that the ingredient sources will more than likely change, especially as they push to increase production three fold.

          [–]MovingClocks 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          ABinbev wouldn't buy out the brewery if they didn't have plans to scale up operations, which speaking as an industrial chemist, will ultimately change your output by some margin due to changes in suppliers, and even just things related to the necessity of scale. If you're trying to brew larger, you'll either need larger tanks or more tanks, which will influence the kinetics of brewing, and to an extent the microbiology of it all.

          There will be some change in the output, and whether or not it is significantly different is entirely up to how much R&D time/money they put into the scale-up operation.

          [–]AnonymousRedditor3 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          No Label in Katy won't sell out

          [–]brittany9080 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I used love street for my wedding gifts to people staying in hotels. It was a nice gesture of a houston brewery and a beer everyone could get down to, plus it's called love street and has Beatles-esque graphics on the can. How unfortunate they sold out.

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            [–]e36bmer 38ポイント39ポイント  (9子コメント)

            I don't know if there was any truth in it, but I heard a couple years ago that Karbach was a secret little project of Anheuser-Busch. Basically that they were already the money behind the whole project. This doesn't surprise me. I do love their beer garden, but haven't been a huge fan of their non special beers.

            [–]yakovgolyadkinGalleria 35ポイント36ポイント  (6子コメント)

            There is an element of truth to that. Silver Eagle bought Karbach's distribution rights a few years ago for $15 million, far more than they were worth. Karbach used that money to find their massive expansion. It's been pretty clear that that was an investment to improve Karbach before purchase.

            [–]NOCIANONSA 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

            ... because it would have been illegal for Silver Eagle (one of the largest AB distributors) to outright pay for the expansion. So, a loophole

            [–]FootballTA 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Right - as far as I understood, Karbach was a quasi-Silver Eagle project to begin with (could be completely wrong, though). So, this to me seems like the successful completion of a five-year plan than a betrayal of principle.

            [–]isomorphZetaSpring 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            You're not wrong.

            As was mentioned above, it was likely a move exploiting a loophole to see how Karbach would perform with increased funding. Their distribution doubled and they turned their humble little brewery into a nice hot spot - more than enough to show InBev-AB that they were a marketable asset.

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              [–]Doodarazumas 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I do love a good conspiracy theory.

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                [–]Smegmania 80ポイント81ポイント  (35子コメント)

                Hey 8th Wonder... you're gonna get all of my business now. Also, please start canning Haterade. <3

                [–]BennyscrapMidtown 22ポイント23ポイント  (12子コメント)

                But stop canning Rocket Fuel. That stuff's way better from the tap.

                [–]thecravenoneMontrose 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Keep canning it but switch to nitro cans :D

                [–]BennyscrapMidtown 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Problem solved. Hope some 8th wonder people are trolling this thread.

                [–]KijafaSeabrook 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                I like it canned...

                [–]BennyscrapMidtown 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Really? I love the beer out of the tap, but when it's canned, it seems to lose the flavor they intended for it. It doesn't have the strong coffee taste anymore. I mean, to each their own, of course. Your palette is what it is. But I just can't enjoy it that way.

                [–]KijafaSeabrook 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I've only had it canned, which is probably why.

                [–]steelsunWestbury 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I too much prefer it from the tap. Tried a can of it and it tasted like a different beer, and one I didn't want a second of.

                [–]Edw1nner 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Why not keep doing both? That way we can both enjoy it on tap and I can also buy some when I'm getting groceries.

                [–]BennyscrapMidtown 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                It's a personal preference thing. Most of the people I've talked to about Rocket Fuel have preferred tap over can and have said they didn't like the can taste. If you enjoy it, then keep at it. I'd love to see a poll made about it, though. I'd reckon about 70% of people prefer the tap to the can with about 40% saying they'd never drink the cans again(I'd fall in that category).

                [–]Edw1nner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I understand. I pretty much prefer tap with any beer but it's still nice to be able to take some home without having to drive to a place that does growlers.

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                  [–]lot183 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

                  If they canned Haterade I'd be so all over that. Plzzzzzz

                  I really want a solid year round Gose. I loved Real Ale's but it was only seasonal. And Haterade is one of my favorites ive had

                  [–]AgDrumma07Near Northwest 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  You can't really compare Real Ale's Gose to 8th Wonder's. I'm not a huge fan of 8th Wonder in general, but I had their Gose last night for the first time and it was one of the best Goses I've had this year. Real Ale's just tastes like Dos Equis to me.

                  [–]lot183 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  I definitely like 8th Wonders better, but they don't can it so I don't have that option for drinking at home.

                  I gotta disagree that real ales taste like dos though, I still personally really like it

                  [–]AgDrumma07Near Northwest 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  There's nothing wrong with Real Ale's...I just don't think it's anywhere close to the true style. It's more of an adjunct lager to me. I've definitely purchased a few 6-packs...great lake beer.

                  [–]Edw1nner 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  I'd be happy if Saint Arnold starting canning Boiler Room.

                  [–]thecravenoneMontrose 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Rumor has it that they plan to can their entire line other than the super special stuff. Unfortunately, the same rumor has it that Boiler Room is last on the list :/

                  [–]thecravenoneMontrose 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Sierra Nevada's Gose is pretty good and pretty cheap

                  [–]lot183 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Otra Vez? I like that one but honestly not quite as much as Real Ale's or 8th Wonder's. Still though its not bad, I have gotten it as a substitute

                  [–]Reeko_HtownHobby 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  I feel your thirst. I stocked up on Real ale's gose and 4 other gose brews.

                  [–]lot183 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I should have :( I wasn't really paying attention and next thing I know the grocery store doesn't have them out anymore

                  I know its traditionally a warm weather beer but I don't care I could drink that any time of the year

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                      [–]Reeko_HtownHobby 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      Yes can haterade.

                      [–]Redraider1994 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      There's plenty of breweries to go to. I'm just sad that Karbach sold out to Anheuser Busch. There's a reason why I always drank craft beer.

                      [–]hottNpopular69 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Please beer gods 🙏🏼

                      [–]A__TT_I_C 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      No love for Dream Shake? That brew needs to be shipped out

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                        [–]DentateGyros 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        Pour one out

                        [–]MCClapYoHandz 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

                        This seems like an odd time to sell out. They just hugely expanded their brewing capability, opened the restaurant, and started brewing some exciting new stuff. They quickly solidified themselves as a Houston staple, and now is when they decide to cash out?

                        [–]yakovgolyadkinGalleria 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        All that expansion was done with Silver Eagle money. Wouldn't be surprised if the selling out was an implied part of the deal back then.

                        [–]mgbesqWestwood 30ポイント31ポイント  (6子コメント)

                        Flash forward ten years when you'll be eating at Karbach's Brew Town in Orlando.

                        [–]megafartcloud 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        They just hugely expanded their brewing capability, opened the restaurant, and started brewing some exciting new stuff

                        businesses rise and fall all the time. better to cash out and take guaranteed profits. running a successful business can be very stressful, especially one with relatively low barriers to entry and fickle consumer tastes.

                        [–]NOCIANONSA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Those were likely done in order to prepare to be bought out. More power to them, cause they probably got paid a shit ton, like tens of millions of dollars, for their brewery and now have access to endless distribution and raw materials.

                        [–]Munkadunk667East Houston 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Hugely expanding after just 5 years of being open is a steep upward trend which is the perfect time to get in and buy at 100 mil(just a guess) when in a few years it could cost you 200 mil, or be quite the competitor in a local market such as Houston.

                        [–]AgDrumma07Near Northwest 43ポイント44ポイント  (10子コメント)

                        Hay Merchant is not taking this lightly.

                        [–]thecaveallegory 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Man, talking about sticking to your convictions. Good on them.

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                          [–]houstonianisms 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          We still have plenty of local breweries to support. And, at least the rest of America will get some Houston flavor in their lives instead of just Texas Shiner. I ain't mad at that.

                          [–]unibomber223 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Hopefully I can get some hopadillo in Virginia now. Then again we have excellent breweries here in Virginia so I'd probably just buy it when feeling home sick

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                            [–]NukeLikeTheBomb 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            In memoriam. http://imgur.com/a/IGCOt

                            [–]megafartcloud 22ポイント23ポイント  (9子コメント)

                            Anheuser-BuschInBev is a monster. they are fucking cutthroat in their acquisition campaign. then again, if I started a successful brewery I would definitely cash out and start something else.

                            [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

                            There's likely a non-compete clause for a term of 2-5 years on the owners. I doubt they can just turn and burn with a new brewery.

                            [–]NOCIANONSA 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            I doubt the owners are in a rush to go and start over at a new brewery after their payday. I can see their brewmaster Eric Warner leaving after a while and doing that cause overall he's probably motivated more by making great beer than money.

                            [–]megafartcloud 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            non-compete clauses are difficult to enforce, must be a subordinate clause in any agreement. very doubtful that any clause says Karbach owner cannot produce or sell beer.

                            [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            All I know is that is what happened to the distiller at Balcone's. Now he's doing brandy instead (iirc) which is his way to bypass the non-compete clause.

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                                  [–]munx1er 45ポイント46ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                  Fuck InBev!™ Support your local brewery.

                                  [–]showmethestudy 4ポイント5ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                  So what are the remaining truly indy Texas brewers now?

                                  [–]oh-propagandhi 17ポイント18ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                  There are tons in Houston and the surrounding area. St. Arnold, B-52, Buffalo Bayou, No Label, Southern Star, and probably 5 more I can't think of.

                                  [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 37ポイント38ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                  A little old, but here's an idea:

                                  In Production:

                                  11 Below Brewing: 6820 Bourgeois Rd. Houston, TX 77066

                                  8th Wonder Brewery: 2202 Dallas St. Houston, TX 77003

                                  B-52 Brewing: 12470 Milroy Lane Conroe, TX 77304

                                  Baa Baa Brewhouse: 539 FM 359 Rd S #7, Brookshire, TX 77423

                                  Bakfish Brewing: 1231 Broadway Pearland, TX 77581

                                  Back Pew Brewing: 26452 Sorters McClellan Rd. Porter, TX 77365

                                  Brash Brewing: 510 W Crosstimbers Rd Houston, TX 77018

                                  Buffalo Bayou Brewing: 5301 Nolda St. Houston, TX 77007

                                  City Acre Brewing: 3418 Topping St, Houston, TX 77093

                                  Copperhead Brewery: 822 N. Frazier St. Conroe, TX 77301

                                  Eureka Heights Brew Co: 941 W 18th St, Houston, TX 77008

                                  Fetching Lab Brewing: 1578 CR 423, Suite B Alvin, TX 77511

                                  Galveston Bay Beer: 12900 FM 3436 RD Dickinson, TX 77539

                                  Galveston Island Brewing: 8423 Stewart Rd Galveston, TX 77550

                                  Lone Pint Brewing: 507 Commerce St. Magnolia, TX 77355

                                  No Label Brewing: 5351-A 1st Street Katy, TX 77493

                                  Running Walker Brewing: 3421 FM 359, Suite B Richmond, TX 77406

                                  Saint Arnold Brewing: 2000 Lyons Avenue Houston, TX 77020

                                  Saloon Door Brewing: 105 Magellan Cir, Webster, TX 77598

                                  Southern Star Brewing: 3525 N Frazier Conroe, TX 77303

                                  Spindle Tap Brewing: 10622 Hirsch Rd, Houston, TX 77016

                                  Sigma Brewing: 3118 Harrisburg Blvd, UNIT 108 Houston, TX 77003

                                  Texas Beer Refinery: 1825-B FM1266 Kemah, TX 77546

                                  Texian Brewing: 1125 FM 359 Rd, Richmond, TX 77406

                                  Town in City Brewing: 1125 W Cavalcade Houston, TX 77009

                                  Under the Radar Brewery: 1506 Truxillo Houston, TX 77004

                                  Whole Foods Market Brewing: 1700 Post Oak Blvd Houston, TX 77056

                                  Confirmed In-Construction:

                                  160ft Beerworks: 1310 Nance St Houston, TX 77002

                                  Bearded Fox Brewing: 11729 Spring Cypress Road, Suite R Tomball, TX 77377

                                  Great Heights Brewing: 938 Wakefield Drive Houston, TX 77018

                                  Holler Brewing: 2206 Edwards St Suite A Houston, TX 77007

                                  Platypus Brewing: 1902 Washington Ave, Suite E Houston, TX 77007

                                  Texas Leaguer Brewing: 13503 Pike Rd. Missouri City, TX 77489

                                  Vallensons Brewing: 4081 Rice Drier Road Pearland, TX 77581

                                  [–]Turbostar66First Ward 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  FYI - Platypus is open!

                                  [–]HakeemOlajuwonEastwood 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Moontower sudworks 3004 canal 77003 is a brewpub with about 5-6 of their own beers and 60 or so guest taps.

                                  [–]houstonUA6Greenspoint 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Thanks for this. Created a google maps :)

                                  [–]oh-propagandhi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  You are awesome!

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                                    [–]Smegmania 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                    Under the Radar!

                                    [–]MinorityShack 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    +1 for Under the Radar! They need to get on the individual market though as soon as they get more popular in those local bars. Loved their opening weekend shindig they did in September.

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                                      [–]BennyscrapMidtown 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Town and city? 8th wonder?

                                      [–]Turbostar66First Ward 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Platypus, Brash, Town in City. There have to be more.

                                      [–]HominineMuseum District 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                      I just discovered Sigma.
                                      edit: I'm going to sound like a shill now, but what the hell.. I just noticed that they are offering three dollar pours all day today.

                                      [–]simmonsg 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      Hay Merchant is practically giving away their Karbach. It was either that or pour it in the gutter.

                                      [–]Hou_mcbpLeague City 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Texas Beer Refinery in Dickinson is pretty great

                                      [–]goldmine000 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      512. 512 IPA and Pecan Porter is delicious. If it's fresh from the tap it's dangerous. Not sold in stores.

                                      [–]jimincognitoMontrose 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Lame.

                                      [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      They always felt like a brewery destined to sell out. They came in with some solid beer, great marketing/art design, and what had to be some solid financial backing. They built a market base and grew exponentially. I've got to believe that they owners had a plan to sell out in the first 10 years, and it appears they were able to capitalize even faster than that. If I was a venture capitalist, I'd try to get in on the ground floor of whatever endeavor they take on next.

                                      [–]steelsunWestbury 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Oh joy. Another small company getting gobbled by a crap company, who will put it into their stream and lineup and use their marketing/distribution/etc power to push real independents out of the lineup at restaurants and bars.

                                      Damn.

                                      Wasn't really a fan of Karbach (didn't have any beers i really preferred), but damn.

                                      [–]FootballTA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      To be fair, Karbach has been doing this pretty much since the beginning.

                                      [–]purdueableThe Heights 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                      I lived up in Indiana before Goose Island was overtaken. There appeared to be a marked decrease the quality of that beer after they were acquired. I remember 312 was my favorite beer in college, and relatively rare outside the midwest. I still drink Good Island on occasion, but prefer local brewers like 8th wonder or st Arnold.

                                      [–]AgDrumma07Near Northwest 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      I would somewhat disagree with you. I think the GI sellout was one of the few sellouts that were actually GOOD for the brewery. I've had Sofie and a few others post-sellout and they were all excellent. Plus, I can buy Sofie and some of their other better beers at a good price here in TX whenever I want.

                                      [–]purdueableThe Heights 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Yeah, my opinion is subjective for sure. I just remember the beer tasting better and less mass-produced before being acquired. But I'm sure my tastebuds are different 10 years later.

                                      [–]AgDrumma07Near Northwest 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Highly possible. I'm only a big fan of some of their beers and those are the ones that are still great to me. I will say that it's nice to be able to get BC when it comes out too (last year's production problems aside).

                                      [–]Ganonderp_Fuck Comcast 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      How I feel about this right now...

                                      [–]Ganonderp_Fuck Comcast 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Hey /u/boshaus , can we get new flair that says "Fuck Karbach"?

                                      [–]BurnedBiscuits 63ポイント64ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                      BOYCOTT KARBACH

                                      [–]aussie_jasonOak Forest 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                      Already unfollowed/unliked all their social media, Platypus Brewing will be my beer garden of choice now.

                                      [–]bigidiotdummy 102ポイント103ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      Already unfollowed/unliked all their social media

                                      Holy shit this guy's out of control

                                      [–]KijafaSeabrook 44ポイント45ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      /r/madlads

                                      [–]KazPart2 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      taking it off the grid and burning his social security card

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                                        [–]Ron-Swanson-Mustache 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Why?

                                        [–]jwin 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                        Why? Same thing happened to Goose Island and nothing changed. They still make delicious beer.

                                        [–]b0hica 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        The beer won't change, it'll be just as delicious as always, however what does change is who you give your money to. When you buy karbach you'll now be giving your money to ABInBev who lobbies against the small craft brewery and tries to muscle them out.

                                        [–]HakeemOlajuwonEastwood 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Did you not hear about all those infected goose island bottles last year? If you think the quality of goose islands beer hasn't changed then you weren't paying attention.

                                        [–]ubermonkeyMontrose 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Lots of people prefer local businesses, so ANY buyout would be unwelcome here. That's a legitimate position.

                                        An even MORE compelling position, though, is that you may not want to support the anticompetitive and unethical chicanery that AB-InBev routinely engages in. Buying a Karbach beer means giving money to ABI.

                                        I won't do that.

                                        [–]DeadlyDMontrose 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        One thing I noticed about Goose Island is they were a pioneer in beer making. The day they sold, that just seemed to stop. I don't follow them that closely but I've been seeing the same beers they have always sold, nothing new. Maybe a few additional sours for $30.

                                        [–]JMyorJMan 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        Yeah, I'm not gonna just stop drinking Karbach because they were bought.

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                                          [–]1210_million_watts 12ポイント13ポイント  (41子コメント)

                                          I had already heard rumors they aren't exactly the "chillest" company (aggressive marketing strategies trying to push out other local breweries instead of collaboration) so I have been avoiding drinking them, and then they sellout. Screw em, I will never drink Karbach again.

                                          [–]iancole85Heights 32ポイント33ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                          You know what's super chill? Building a business from scratch in 5 years, selling it for $100mm, and then never working another day in your life.

                                          [–]AintAintAWordFuck Comcast 22ポイント23ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                          You're gonna get some hate (especially in this thread) for saying that, but I'd be willing to bet every single person in this thread would do the exact same thing for that kind of money. I know I would.

                                          [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 19ポイント20ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                          Unless that person is Brock Wagner.

                                          [–]KijafaSeabrook 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                          That'd be like if JJ Watt left to go play for the Colts. I don't think people would ever get over it.

                                          [–]TexcellenceMedical Center 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          I couldn't imagine a legendary Texans player going to play for the Colts. That sort of thing would never happen!

                                          [–]taking_a_deuceMontrose 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          Colts fan living in Houston. We tried with Andre, didn't work out so well.

                                          I know, I know, fuck the Colts (sigh)

                                          [–]fuckitimatworkGalleria 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          delete this

                                          [–]steelsunWestbury 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          Hell yeah. I've had my own company for 6 years. If someone offered me $2 million for it and a non compete for 3 years, I'd be in my camper having fun all across America for the next 3 years.

                                          [–]lot183 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          I mean, in that situation, I probably take the money too. But that doesn't mean I have to support the decision as a consumer. If I made that deal, I'd have to expect a bunch of people to not be happy at all with me.

                                          [–]AintAintAWordFuck Comcast 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          If I made that deal, I'd have to expect a bunch of people to not be happy at all with me.

                                          If you made that deal you wouldn't have to give a damn about what people think about you while you're sipping margaritas on the beach in front of your condo in Cabo or seeing the world with your s/o or doing literally whatever the hell you want to do. I get the reaction from consumers. Hell, I'm with everyone else in this thread, but if you threw that kind of money at me you'd best believe I'm taking it and you'd never see me again. I get your point, though.

                                          [–]lot183 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Oh yeah, and I don't disagree with you, I'm not sure I'd honestly give a shit about any criticism either if I took that deal. I'm mostly just saying though that while its understandable, and while many of us would possibly do the same under the same circumstances, it certainly doesn't make it free from criticism. Understandable for sure, but still shitty from a consumer standpoint for multiple reasons

                                          [–]iancole85Heights 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Most people don't understand how business works and want to cry foul in this case because the product was built on an air of "by the little guy" and this violates that impression. I don't personally give a fuck. They built a monster business from nothing based solely on a quality product made in America. How many people can say that? Just happy for the guys, enjoy your next business or your retirement.

                                          [–]MoneyForPeople 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          It isn't like he built it from his own savings and bare hands. Silver Eagle gave them 15 mil way before their rights were worth anything close to that. It was probably promised they would sell to InBev when they reached a certain size.

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                                            [–]Munkadunk667East Houston 6ポイント7ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                            They definitely have some shady sales practices that are frowned upon by the TABC.

                                            edit:.....oh...it's you.

                                            [–]loudnoises461 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                            Like what

                                            [–]Munkadunk667East Houston 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                            Exchanging goods for tap placements. They're not allowed to buy the tap placements with cash, but they can buy TV's for the bar or whatever in exchange for tap placements. That's just an example.

                                            [–]piyoucaneatBellaire 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            That's interesting. The one time I went, a bartender at Nouveau Antique Art Bar got all douchey with me when I asked if they had any Southern Star. He said "they don't pay us enough to sell their beer." So I'm guessing it's a shitty standard practice despite the rules against it.

                                            [–]PersonX2Museum District 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            ... It's the customers that pay for the beer, you should tap what your customer base wants.

                                            [–]FootballTA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Huh, that does sound like it's running afoul of payola laws. Of course, this is Texas, so EVIL GUBMINT REGULATION

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                                              [–]1210_million_watts 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              which SAemp are you munka?

                                              [–]Munkadunk667East Houston 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              The one who floats the river with you and drank with you last Friday at pub night.

                                              [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                              IDK, I heard that one of their employees had an accident on the job. He was known to be a recreational user of certain herbal intoxicators, but never under the influence on the job. The workman's comp insurer was going to mandate that he take a drug test, otherwise they wouldn't pay the claim. When the owners said that they wouldn't make him take a test, the insurer said that the company would have to fire him then because they wouldn't insure him. The owners basically told the insurer to piss up a tree, paid for the claim out of their pocket, and switched insurers. He was too valuable of an employee and they knew whatever test he would fail had nothing to do with the on-the-job accident. That's pretty chill in my book. (I was told this story 3rd hand, so the details may be a bit off, but the gist is accurate).

                                              [–]steelsunWestbury 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              A place that big searching for a new insurer would have that potential new insurer doing due diligence, and they would find the claim and the experience with the last insurer. Thus the new rates, if they could get insured at all after that problem, would be very high.

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                                                [–]ADHD-WOOHOOUpper Kirby 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                They're not going to be able to afford or even source most of their high-quality ingredients in enough quantity to sell at a competitive price for national distribution; a lot of their stuff was sourced from little mom-and-pop farms. The quality of their beers will decline significantly. Karbach is dead to me.

                                                [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                SUPPORT LOCAL INDEPENDENT BREWERIES - IMPROMPTU MEETUP SATURDAY NOON EUREKA HEIGHTS BREW CO

                                                [–]A_Felt_Pen 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                It's Petrol Station's birthday saturday and they open at 9am. Just saying.

                                                [–]emh2379 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Hay Merchant and Underbelly are pulling them from their menu. Wonder if other bars/restaurants will follow? http://www.houstoniamag.com/articles/2016/11/3/did-karbach-just-make-the-entire-city-of-houston-hoppin-mad

                                                [–]aequitas_veritas 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Motherfucker.

                                                [–]GBtubaMissouri City 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Shaun!

                                                [–]AintAintAWordFuck Comcast 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Sorry, mother...mum!

                                                [–]HtownSamson 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                A good explanation of why saying anything other than it was a cash grab is bullshit:

                                                WHAT ‘SELLING OUT’ IS ACTUALLY ABOUT

                                                [–]Redraider1994 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                St. Arnolds, Under the Radar, 8th Wonder, Eureka Heights, Buffalo Bayou Co, 11th Below, Spindletap, Brash Brewing, and Sigma Brewing EADO are your alternatives

                                                [–]ttruvjrMontrose 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Welp, time to go drinking at Buffalo Bayou Brewing.

                                                [–]EhStonedTurtleNear North Side 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Time to stop drinking love street, WW, and the Hopadillo. At least there's 8th Wonder ,Town In City, City Acre and Eureka Heights all within driving range and with decent beers. Here's to hoping no other H-Town breweries sell out

                                                [–]eradica 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Don't forget places like Sigma and Brash! Tons of good places all over town!

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                                                  [–]jhudiddy08Tomball 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  FFFFUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!

                                                  [–]HHAG 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Well, bye bye Karbach. I'll be taking my biz elsewhere and sticking to St Arnie's and Buff Brew. While the acquisition I'm sure appealed to the owners' values, personally I fear for the eventual changes InBev will make and this will eventually strip the Houston/city-specific identity out of the beer's branding/marketing.

                                                  [–]phishinSB 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  soldout

                                                  [–]AMillionFingDiamonds 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Karbach to no longer be purchased by AMillionFingDiamonds.

                                                  [–]houshutter 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  fuck.

                                                  I just found a few flavors I like.

                                                  fuck them both.

                                                  [–]Reeko_HtownHobby 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                  Will never buy another one of their beers again. I support Houston breweries.

                                                  [–]HOU-1836Spring Branch 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                  What about Houstonians that work at big breweries? Fuck those guys.

                                                  [–]Reeko_HtownHobby 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Big Brewries aren't going out of business because of craft beer. That's like saying Walmart workers are going to lose jobs because of a boutique.

                                                  [–]MoneyForPeople 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  It is not like InBev is going to go out of business if we stop supporting Karbach. Local breweries are the way to go.

                                                  [–]largemanbarrierThe Woodlands 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  Let the people we know that drink the piss beer that comes from inbev continue to support them. I'll have another rocket fuel please.

                                                  [–]gt35r 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  My mom has a house in Oregon right down the street from 10 Barrel who they also acquired, that place is a fucking ghost town and has been ever since. RIP Karbach.

                                                  [–]CheapBeer 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  Their beers, at least their main-stays, seemed to be giving me stomach-aches as of lately so I choose 8th Wonder/No Label/St. Arnold over them. Still, I loved Krunkin Pumpkin along with Mother In Lager.

                                                  So long Karbach. I'll miss you guys.

                                                  [–]WhiskeyRThe Heights 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  That's weird. If I drink more than two of any Karbach beers I get extreme headaches. Doesn't happen with any other beers... except Budweiser.

                                                  [–]apokolypz 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                  I use to work there, and was actually considering going back (I worked in the restaurant) but would this affect anything from my perspective?
                                                  Also, why does everybody stop supporting them after they 'sell out'? I'm genuinely asking, out of curiosity - like is it the same reasoning for everybody, does it vary person to person?

                                                  [–]Not_a_ClueRice Military 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Fuck that. Lost my business

                                                  [–]nanan00 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Boo, do not approve.

                                                  [–]SackOfritoWestchase 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  So much for the Fastest growing Microbrewery in Houston.

                                                  [–]crowscountingspades 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  And...once my favorite microbrews go corporate AND foreign-owned, I move to a new one...

                                                  [–]pawsforbear 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Fuck. Off. they were my favorite fucking micro brew.

                                                  Im gonna finish the rest of the 6-pack I have of Sympathy for the Lager but Im not gonna fucking like it.

                                                  [–]spidermanjka2kPearland 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  What it's the same beer just 50% more water and rice!

                                                  [–]visionofacheezburger 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Not too surprised here. Karbach is pretty much at capacity with right around 80 thousand barrels a year and not much more room to keep expanding. In order for the brand to continue it's growth this needed to happen, but it doesn't make it hurt any less. If Eric Warner stays on as brewmaster I wouldn't worry about the quality but if he jumps ship then I'll start burning churches.

                                                  [–]drippydick 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  8th Wonder is better anyways

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