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[Post Match Thread] Fenerbahce vs Manchester Utd (self.reddevils)

DatGuyRichValencia が 投稿 - announcement

FT: Fenerbahce 2-1 Manchester United

Sow 1-0

Lens 2-0

Rooney 2-1

cc /u/meho7

Full Match/Highlights

Current Table

Team GD +/- Pts
Fenerbahce -1 7
Feyenoord 1 7
Manchester Utd 2 6
Zorya -2 2

other results

Feyenoord 1 - 1 Zorya

Next Game: Away to Swansea on Sunday 3PM

Next EL Game: Home to Feyenoord on 24th 8:05PM

Lets hear your thoughts!

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[–]RVP_20_Martial 165ポイント166ポイント  (81子コメント)

I don't envy Mourinho. The job that he has on his hands has gotten ridiculously more difficult and I don't even know what a possible solution is.

[–]northernseoulSmalling 39ポイント40ポイント  (4子コメント)

Been really underwhelmed with Mou tactically. Bar the Liverpool game he has made some errors (Chelsea, Watford prime examples), doesn't seem to know what his best XI or formation is. Tonight we persisted in playing centrally which was congested as hell instead of exploiting the width.

[–]Seith1 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

To be fair to Mou, it was quite obvious that the tactic was to try and exploit the width with both Shaw and Darmian playing very high up the pitch. However, both of them had an absolutely terrible game where they failed to penetrate the flanks or deliver any kind of service.

[–]northernseoulSmalling 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well you can play them high up but if there's no overlapping you're not gunna get any width. Also if Mou was wanting width why bring Mkhi on to play through the middle, take Rashford off and put Mata wide? I get your point but don't think you can say that was his game plan.

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    [–]red-17 59ポイント60ポイント  (19子コメント)

    Well its certainly not to just throw on random attacking players with zero structure and hope it works. We have absolutely no structure in our attack, and we were playing with one center mid four players who all want to play the number ten.

    [–]BoyWhoCanDoAnythingScholes 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

    That's not where the problem was. The problem was right from the start when we seemed to play with the narrowest front 3 I have ever seen. It was like Martial and Rashford were allergic to the touchline.

    [–]red-17 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Well that is obviously what he wants them to do for whatever reason . Martial never played this narrow last season on the wing.

    [–]Naijaboy17Rashford 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Hmm, maybe because they gasp aren't wingers?

    [–]BoyWhoCanDoAnythingScholes 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You don't think Martial is more effective from the left wing? He's certainly not proven himself through the middle in the games he had. Both he and Rashford have played far better positionally on the wing before. It's not an excuse.

    [–]MoosjeMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Martial is better on the wing, Rashford absolutely isn't and there's no way you can argue he is

    [–]northernseoulSmalling 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Reminds me of Hodgson chucking on Vardy against Wales along with Studge, Kane and Rashford. Just 'chuck on all the attackers and hope'

    [–]stifjeDe Gea 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ive been saying the same thing about our midfield for a while now. we need variation in that position, having 4 different playmakers and a striker who always wants to drop simply just dosent work.

    [–]yiyiyiyiPogba 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    That has always been Mourinho's style. Just throw on attackers, throw CBs up front. He doesn't plan out meticulous attacking strategies, he just wants to hump it to a big man and that's about it.

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      [–]Stilkonwheels 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

      When we go a goal down it's like our team loses all hope. Attack is static, key players are playing dogshite, defence has gone to shit for some reason.

      All while we enviously look at what guardiola is doing at city.

      [–]danskzwag 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

      He got the players he wanted

      [–]schilomFosu 31ポイント32ポイント  (8子コメント)

      Two shots on goal. TWO! What is going on? The whole team seemed to lack passion..

      [–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

      I honestly think we're just knackered. It really does look like that.

      [–]AlexDerLionScholes 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Yes! We've had an intense run of games. Between now and our last match had been our only break.

      Not to mention, when exactly is mourinho going to be able to really train his methods with such congestion and international breaks.

      [–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Plus they've flown all the way to bloody Turkey. I think it's easy to see the issues, to me it seems a combination of:

      • Fatigue (It's a Euro year after all)
      • Lack of time to truly grasp the system
      • Injuries
      • Mourinho's personal issues (which I think will get sorted in good time)
      • Luck/Confidence

      Before anyone compares us to City or something, I don't care. City are City, their situation has panned out different to ours, should we be doing better? Yes, do I think we're in a freefall that is unexplainable? No. People will dismiss reasons like time to bed in because "Well X team got X manager and 50 new players and was immediately was amazing", I'm not interested in that, I just want to explain why we're struggling and I think these reasons do. Some managers/situations just need more time to bed in.

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          [–]Lingard 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

          We have to stop throwing money at the team, it's not going to help us anymore.

          [–]frankowen18 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Me neither, but we at least have a semblance of what the problem is, the players look a) disjointed tactically and b) unmotivated physically, our press was nonexistent as it has been a few times. Both of which are Mourinhos problems. The talent is in that squad.

          We're just so slow and plodding in our buildup, every single time we let the opposition form two banks of four by aimlessly passing it around. Transitions are like watching the Titanic slowly sink. It's hard to watch.

          [–]ra2eW8je 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

          I don't even know what a possible solution is.

          A start would be getting proper wingers. Martial and Rashford are both strikers so they naturally drift towards the middle.

          Mata is a #10 so his tendency is to move inside as well.

          [–]daveorMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          We certainly need to move the ball faster from when it leaves our CBs and always need to have an attempt at the end.
          There is some benefit from giving these poor teams possession, the worst thing you can do is let them settle into their defensive comfort zones. Then you need an early goal to break it, or your attack needs to be perfectly on point and currently we aren't.

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            [–]FootballRobbChicharito 96ポイント97ポイント  (9子コメント)

            Its the hope that kills you

            [–]4lienAnd Solskjær has won it! 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

            https://i.imgur.com/mpKZg.png

            [–]bertonomusZlatan IbraMakeYouHisBić 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

            "20 minutes... I've seen us do this before."

            Me for the last few matches.

            [–]anxious_throwww 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Thing is, I don't even care anymore. After 14 years being a loyal fan, those last 3 + this year just killed any joy, passion and hope I had. And that's what hurts the most. Like being married to a person you aren't attracted anymore but can't bring yourself to get a divorce because you think that love is going to rekindle itself again.

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              [–]AdvWar 91ポイント92ポイント  (32子コメント)

              Our fullbacks were terrible today

              [–]HmphOkay 24ポイント25ポイント  (7子コメント)

              Shaw is missing his pace and people don't realise how much of an important piece of his game that was

              [–]MovingFurtherAway 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

              He's not playing well but he definitely hasn't lost his pace, at the start of the season everyone was praising him for maintaining his pace!

              [–]DelusionalThomas666Blind 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

              He hasn't lost his pace, I don't think he's fully fit yet though.

              [–]Lmv07 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Literally his most important quality. In my opinion at least.

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                [–]ak47nig 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Shows why Valencia is so important for us.

                [–]cookie1254Rafael[🍰] 46ポイント47ポイント  (5子コメント)

                Shaw's been terrible for a while and you can count the number of good performances Darmian has had for us on one hand

                [–]SlappyBaggMichael "The Knife" Carrick 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yea Shaw been subpar all season and Darmian has been subpar every game after his first three lol

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                  [–]arron77 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  Darmian really is shit attacking and for a few games I've thought it looks like Shaw has lost something. Hopefully he's just slowly regaining confidence.

                  [–]VazinhoRashford 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Even though Darmian was excellent attacking the match before...

                  [–]ateroPride of all Europe 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  Bring some of the young lads in for a shot. Either it gives our current fullbacks the kick they need or they get replaced by the reserves.

                  This "closed squad" mentality Mourinho operates under can fuck off.

                  [–]ldnab 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Valencia is the most underrated player in the entire league. The drop off in quality between him and Darmian is monumental.

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                    [–]Tne10Herrera 74ポイント75ポイント  (10子コメント)

                    I haven't been this frustrated watching United in a long, long time...

                    [–]robbo_6Cantona 147ポイント148ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    Saturday was only 5 days ago.

                    [–]LaUr3nTiUKagawa 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Saturday we created chances. Poor/wasteful/whatever, but we created.

                    [–]mu_37 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Saturday's game was not even bad though,it's one of our best performances this season.

                    [–]cristiano10sMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I wasn't frustrated until after the red card, and even then, we were playing well, just lacking a finishing touch. Today we were fucking abysmal and Fenerbahce were a bunch of time wasting cunts

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                      [–]laffmanIbrahimovic 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      4 days can feel like an eternity

                      [–]Zidane-TribalMata 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Where were you the past 3 years then?

                      [–]MUFCMiles 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I know how you feel, mate. Terrible to watch :-(

                      [–]cookie1254Rafael[🍰] 80ポイント81ポイント  (12子コメント)

                      Fenerbache are 8 points off 1st in the fucking Turkish league, they are a genuinely shite team yet we they completely outplayed us. Can't blame the team for the goals conceded and obviously Rooney's goal was outstanding but to be honest the rest of the performance was genuinely dogshit. No width, no creativity, no cohesion, no penetration, no organisation, nothing. We have some great wide players yet we didn't even seem to try to isolate them against the Fenerbache full backs, just 90 minutes of playing in front of the opposition. We have such a bizarre lack of any cohesive plan, both offensively and defensively. Barely created a chance against fucking Martin Skrtel and co. Really pathetic performance

                      [–]MichelPlatiniManchester Red Devil 51ポイント52ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      We are 8 points from first too :)

                      [–]mu_37 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      i think our team has the mentality of a Potato.

                      the early goal made them look like headless chickens yet again.

                      [–]Zidane-TribalMata 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      It's strange how dogshit defenders make it looks easy to defend against us, but our defence fucks up against dogshit strikers.

                      [–]rinilkvMata 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      To be fair. Their Home form is Incredible. We did beat them comfortably last time.

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                        [–]Mos_Eisley_CantonaJose Mourinho 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Fullbacks were atrocious today...

                        [–]TadomekuDe Gea 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        The whole defence was atrocious today. Fullbacks were awful but Rojo / Blind weren't much better. Awful combination to have at the back.

                        [–]the_lord_of_light 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Valencia is a huge miss

                        [–]detinuHerrera 78ポイント79ポイント  (16子コメント)

                        We're freefalling and no one knows what to do. If we don't win at Swansea, we'll be in a full blown crisis (if we aren't already).

                        [–]arron77 34ポイント35ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        Swansea have been shit lately so they are due a performance.

                        [–]Mizzie30Rooney 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        With that logic this same could be said for United

                        [–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        We weren't shit against Burnley.

                        [–]GermanLBJ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        And you know they're gonna deliver against us...

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                          [–]gucciloafer 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          We are already. Can't defend for shit and can't score from open play for shit. Today's goal was a long range shot and we never looked like creating a decent scoring opportunity. Really poor. We're a long, long way off and Mourinho doesn't seem to have a clue what to do.

                          [–]Zidane-TribalMata 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Honestly, I lost my faith for this season. I just pray that Mourinho survives, otherwise we will be like Milan

                          [–]liableAccountGiggs/Januzaj 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          This cheered me up slightly when I saw your comment.

                          [–]PDubsinTF 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Zlatan is very lazy on and off the ball. he and others lost so many balls in the final third because of a poor first touch, or no execution while taking players on. I would have like Rashford to stay on and take of Zlatan because Rooney already slows the play down. Don't need two.

                          [–]Naijaboy17Rashford 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Lose to Swansea and Arsenal and we'll be 14 points from the top and maybe 6 or 7 points away from the relegation zone.

                          There is a higher chance of us being relegated this season than winning the league.

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                            [–]__perfectenschlag__Rooney 107ポイント108ポイント  (8子コメント)

                            Volkan sen can go fuck himself the absolute cunt.

                            [–]enwhykiidMartial 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Haven't wanted to punch someone on TV that much since Joffrey

                            [–]freakedmindMar-See-Aal 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Half their team was hell bent on wasting time since the end of first half.

                            [–]ateroPride of all Europe 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            The fucking time wasting at the end. Minute and a half left on the clock when it started, the total injury lasted something like two minutes.

                            Referee ended the match after adding one extra minute on.

                            HOW THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT TO STAMP OUT TIME WASTING WHEN YOU FUCKING REWARD IT MATCH AFTER MATCH?

                            [–]edgar193DAVE SAVES 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            GOD DAMNIT I HATE TIME WASTING LITTLE BITCHES LIKE HIM

                            [–]bertonomusZlatan IbraMakeYouHisBić 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Volkan Volkunt

                            FTFY

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                              [–]pkchuuMemphis 43ポイント44ポイント  (5子コメント)

                              It's matches like these that make me think there's something fundamentally wrong with the club.

                              [–]ra2eW8je 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              It's matches like these that make me think there's something fundamentally wrong with the club.

                              First step is to get players who, even though they might not make the cover of FIFA, are actually useful, are passionate about the club, and fit whatever it is we're trying to do (like Herrera).

                              Zlatan should have never been brought on. He's just stunting Rashford's and Martial's growth. These two should be alternating at the #9 position and not being wasted on the wings just so Grandpa Zlatan can play in the middle.

                              [–]youknowmyyysteezDe Gea 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              at least you see it. so many people still JUST blaming Rooney.

                              [–]BBQ_HaX0rStannis the Mannis 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Rooney is definitely apart of the problem. Still, anyone that thinks its JUST Rooney should head back to Twitter comments, there's clearly a malaise around this whole club.

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                                [–]forgetthecrowd 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                https://my.mixtape.moe/llakks.mp4

                                this and forget about everything else that happened.

                                [–]laffmanIbrahimovic 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I wonder what he was thinking about..

                                [–]aaaaand_its_gone 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Keeper wasted a minute, Lets add 10 sec

                                [–]ateroPride of all Europe 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I timed it. He was down for over 2 minutes.

                                [–]pepmourinhoLingard 35ポイント36ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                Loved Wayne's cracker and seeing Miki out there but that was utter shite.

                                [–]PDubsinTF 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Difficult to get quality minutes for Miki when down 2 goals in a cup game. Glad he got some time, saw him standing around when we needed runs into the channels.

                                When I watch Barca or Real, there are players constantly running in behind defenders. What I saw today was a bunch of people watching or facing the ball with their back to goal.

                                [–]hugokhf 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                I only watched the last 25 mins or so, but miki was pretty poor

                                [–]drivinganindievanScholesy 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Hard to play well when you haven't played fuck all minutes in a while and the rest of the team is shite.

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                                  [–]BritishBrownieMarijuana Mata 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Don't know why our second half only started after we scored

                                  [–]W0rsleyRafael 31ポイント32ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                  This is also exactly what happened under Van Gaal, players playing out of position and just getting tactically outclassed by average and sometimes awful teams, seems we are just going to constantly be going through a rebuilding period until good players no longer want to join us and we have to settle for mediocrity.

                                  Also what the fuck has happened to Shaw?

                                  [–]macismydog 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  Also what the fuck has happened to Shaw?

                                  Really? He's coming off an injury that had him out for a season... Him struggling for a few months was expected IMO

                                  [–]W0rsleyRafael 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  It was expected but he seems to have gotten worse as the season has gone on, this game and the league cup against City he was especially bad.

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                                      [–]mrstandoffishmanDe Gea 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      They're playing like the opposition are going to stand still and let them through. No attempt to outplay them no attempt to get past them just the assumption that all there passes and dribbles are going to be let through. It's awful.

                                      [–]forgetthecrowd 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      we are simply not good enough. no hunger. no style of play. no creativity. it's horrible to see.

                                      [–]shredderrrrrr 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      "Historic victory for Fenerbache"

                                      Fucking hell, I thought we were done with that shit

                                      [–]Willszz1De Gea 25ポイント26ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                      • Shaw has not been the same since his injury
                                      • Rooney scored a nice goal but his chance in the first half literally any professional footballer should at least be getting a shot off
                                      • Our team mentality is awful when we go behind
                                      • We seem to have no plan in the second half. Ibra, Mata, Rooney, Mkhi were all about 3 steps away from each other making it so easy for them to defend
                                      • Darmian and Shaw poor crossing today
                                      • Hope pogba is not injured for long

                                      [–]kaoticreapzRashgod 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      When did Shaw cross? I don't remember him trying to put in a single cross.

                                      [–]Kiddcohen39Bailly 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      He had multiple including like two in the last 10'. All poor tbh.

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                                          [–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          We got carved open on the counter attack. Most of the players didn’t seem to care about this game and funnily enough, I can’t even fault them. I hate Europa League.

                                          Absolutely sensational goal from Wayne, please be okay Pogba and nice to see Mkhi again.

                                          [–]ZombieSquatchRooney 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          I'm so tired of watching us play like crap.

                                          [–]mu_37 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          i fucking hate Fenerbahçe.

                                          [–]chickensoup1Beckham 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          What the fuck is going on with our club???

                                          Half of the players on our team can go and fuck themselves, seriously. Not one leader on the pitch, no one looks like they give a flying fuck that we were loosing. Overpaid dickheads more concerned with dabbing and appearing in music videos that performing for the club.

                                          But that's okay because they'll all go onto social media in the next 24 hours and post their usual "thanks for the support, tough game but on to the next one" bullshit as always. Sickens me seeing how shit our team is now.

                                          [–]Kiddcohen39Bailly 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          Well... Mhki played?

                                          [–]prestog 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Volken SAN was the most obnoxious player I haver ever seen us play, absolutely soft and just an all round loser.

                                          [–]Set-Abominae 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          I'm not gonna go into full meltdown mode like most people, and I'm not calling for Mourinho's head.

                                          But not enough has changed from Van Gaal's days.

                                          Defence is about the same.

                                          Strikers aren't making runs behind the defence.

                                          Apart from Mata no one is working out as #10, and even he would get eaten alive against high-pressing teams like Liverpool.

                                          Team doesn't have the mental strength to come back from behind either.

                                          I'm not sure what's the problem. There's enough really good players for every position.

                                          No one better than Mourinho is available, and while he did fuck some things up so far, I don't think he's the problem either.

                                          [–]himynameisgabe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          truth is, mata and herrera have been poor with their decision making. its one thing running all over the pitch, its another to pass with a purpose. They will pass the ball around and eventually ends up with the wingers (almost all the time) and expect the wingers to do some magic while everyone from the other team is already in their box.

                                          [–]PDubsinTF 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Only guy that I see constantly run the channels is Rashford... and he was subbed off when we needed to get to goal.

                                          [–]ra2eW8je 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Strikers aren't making runs behind the defence.

                                          That's because Zlatan thinks he's Pirlo who can dictate plays from deep.

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                                            [–]NGU-BenPogba 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Unacceptable.

                                            [–]arron77 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            We're shit away in Europe. Not that arsed. It's unacceptable if we put in the same shit show against Swansea though

                                            [–]Coal_Cartoon 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                            I have never heard a person talk as much shit as Alexi Lalas

                                            [–]ra2eW8je 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            WTF are you doing watching American commentary? I have Fox Sports too but I still chose to stream it to get proper commentary.

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                                              [–]ArmchairHandjob 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Mata needs to start this weekend.

                                              [–]GrayOctopusBasti 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              I think the early goal really took a huge chunk of confidence out of us. Their fans were rocking and did their job, I was absolutely pissed off just hearing them whistle the whole fucking match. It got to a point where i harboured some hateful thoughts against them, but i try to keep my cool.

                                              Their left wing was being an absolute fanny and was rolling around for half the match.

                                              Final thoughts. Next transfer window, don't go for the superstars, get a big black guy for each position. They'll get the job done.

                                              [–]NostrabrahmusMartial 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Were fuckin shite

                                              [–]GodIsAChipmunk 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              It's sad that we just give up after their second goal. Then after our goal we suddenly start to play with some urgency.

                                              [–]neonerdismMartial11 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              What's wrong with our team?

                                              [–]VaudevilleVillain 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              You could see the difference Pogba makes in our midfield, he was a big miss. Hope he's fit this Sunday

                                              [–]GARP-GARP-GARP 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              We're really quite pathetic, aren't we?

                                              [–]AfreeZSir Alex Ferguson 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              I love how every win against United is "Historic"

                                              It's the group stages ffs.

                                              Commentators talking like its a final.

                                              [–]summerincassiopeia 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              That would have been quite fun, if it wasn't for the crippling sense of doom and exasperation throughout.

                                              [–]bertonomusZlatan IbraMakeYouHisBić 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Volkunt.

                                              [–]SonofIndiaVan Persie 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              -pale performance

                                              -this is a very strong team- the second half had Mata, Ibra, Martial, Mikhi, Harrera, Rooney- and we couldn't create ONE decent opportunity

                                              -I'm scared for the weekend now. against fucking Swans!

                                              -Darmian was awful! our weakest link

                                              -Mikhi was very poor as well. did himself no favors.

                                              -let's hope Rooney kicks it off from here. he absolutely cunted the ball there, incredible hit.

                                              -incredible time wasting by them fucking Turks at the end

                                              -cannot believe how slow we were in the last 20 mins

                                              -again, Rooney is a big positive from this game. he looked decent in the second half. pumped for our captain! but he doesn't cut it anymore as a striker. if he could have taken his chance in the first half, it were a completely different game

                                              [–]Vapourtrails89 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Think Rashford should play upfront

                                              [–]bisufanDe Gea 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Before we get a new manager, can we just get a completely new starting 11?

                                              [–]rayray604Van Persie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Welp...there goes our chances at anything.

                                              [–]House_Of_LannisterAnd who are you...? 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Oh the joyous occasion of the following "This is what is wrong with United" and "The x player Conundrum" threads....INCOMING.

                                              [–]JustinC00 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              GK went down at 2:52, Play didn't resume until 4:25, Ref blew for FT at 5:12, you do the math.

                                              Definitely should have been given another 45 seconds. I mean not that we would have done anything with it but still

                                              [–]PenPaperShotgun 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Jose in his post match interview calling out players again. He has stopped protecting his players and just puts them under the bus and blames refs. It's exactly like Chelsea

                                              [–]bisufanDe Gea 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              who did he call out today? I mean... the players all generally sucked but i'm curious what he's doing. :(

                                              [–]WHiTeCHIICKI'd rather walk alone. 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              • Martial = Striker
                                              • Rashford = Striker
                                              • Ibra = Striker
                                              • Rooney = Striker

                                              I look at City and see the cohesion of a Team. We're a bunch of individuals played out of position

                                              [–]Naijaboy17Rashford 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Bingo. Mourinho doesn't have a fucking clue.

                                              You can't just throw attacking players on the pitch willy-nilly, you need to put them in their best positions to succeed and in order to have chemistry out there on the pitch. This is such a basic concept that even a 12 year old playing FIFA Ultimate Team would be able to grasp yet Mourinho seems to not understand it.

                                              [–]niickfarleyThe Chosen One 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              People are wrong for turning on Mourinho if they want change at this club, yes he is having to adapt to a new solution but in no way has he 'lost it'. However, these results are just not good enough, he needs to look at his perceived starting 11 and think about changing personnel and/or tactics.

                                              [–]Xelements93Rooney 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              This sub: "Rooney sucks, never scores"

                                              Rooney scores a screamer

                                              "Ugh too late Wayne"

                                              [–]DublinDoody 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Fucking shambolic performance.

                                              [–]wheremyjaffa 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Shambles. Once again

                                              [–]BigbuckyballRonaldo 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                              I don’t know how we’re going to fix this to be honest. If it wasn’t for the unfortunate goal in the 1st minute maybe Fenerbahce wouldn’t have defended so well and things may have gone differently. Good goal from Rooney in the end but I am quite disappointed he miscontrolled that chance from Martial.

                                              Bailly injured, Pogba injured, Valencia injured, Herrera not available for Swansea. Everyone else underperforming. I want Rashford to play up top on his own and give Ibra a rest. Rooney hasn’t done enough for me for him to get back in the starting line up even with that goal.

                                              [–]dkkoooGiggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Rooney hasn't done enough? Yet he's done more than the majority of the team this game ya muppet

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                                                [–]The_Alpha_of_BetasMata 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Fuck this rotting mess

                                                [–]luigi9851 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                This has really been the story of the last 3 seasons. One day we can beat them 4-1, another day play like horrible and lose to the same team

                                                [–]AstJrRashford 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                This was embarrassing.

                                                [–]lawanhawizy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                This felt like peak Moyes. Play 4 strikers when chasing the game. Replace Rooney, Martial, Rashford and Zlatan with RVP, Rooney, Chicharito and Welbeck.Except in our case we're playing a 1 striker system and Mata at times was playing up front.

                                                Zero identity. Absolute shambles.

                                                [–]simmejanneHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Getting used to this shit. Always expecting too much, a win. It shouldn't even be too fucking much.

                                                [–]Fereh 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Not a single fucking thing to be happy about with this game, bar maybe Martial.

                                                [–]hairyjelly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Fucking time wasting fenerbache players are so annoying

                                                [–]yungcabbyRooney 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                -Darmian is incredibly poor with the ball, we need someone an actual winger on the right flank to create width.

                                                -It would be nice if Rooney played the full 90 like he played the last 10 minutes.

                                                [–]jp-dizzleDeutscher Fußballmeister 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Not a single player out there today was fit to wear the shirt.

                                                As we saw with LVG - there's a problem with this club that money simply will not fix. It's a mentality problem, among others. None of them ever look remotely bothered.

                                                Disgrace.

                                                [–]account_locked_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                It used to upset me when my friends said "I can't watch soccer, there is too much flopping" I understand what they were talking about. That was infuriating.

                                                [–]patcheee 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                City beat Barca, one of the best teams in the world. We got ole'd by fenerbahce.

                                                Nice hit Rooney though.

                                                [–]MesoimbaIbrahimovic 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Painfully slow and predictable with zero creativity. Zzzzzzz...

                                                [–]SurrenderToReasonIbrahimovic 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Every club gets "famous wins" against us now. I hate this.

                                                [–]CallMeBigPOPHe Comes from Serbia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                We're fucking shite

                                                [–]icesurfer10Dave 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I don't think we'll ever get back on top

                                                [–]Papsicle01Bailly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Been such a tough week supporting this club.

                                                [–]PenPaperShotgun 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Jose strangles the attacking life of his teams, he looks grumpy and has no clue, his team selections are off and seemingly at random.

                                                That last 10 minutes showed that if we attacked we would have battered them, but he makes the team so utterly defensive but he uses attackers to do that defending. So not only are the attackers wasted but they aren't actually good at defending, so we end up letting in goals and not scoring.

                                                It is exactly what happened at Chelsea

                                                [–]Bo_DallasScholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Fuck it, forget about Europa and the Premier League, focus on the League Cup.

                                                [–]MichelPlatiniManchester Red Devil 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                For real. If do not win at Swansea. That. is. It.

                                                Game over for top 4.

                                                [–]Fereh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I genuinly thought that Darmian would be a defender for years after his first games for the team. Now I don't understand how we want to keep him.

                                                [–]chile621Rooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Slow. Predictable. Ref is shit. They perform out of their minds. Our form continues.

                                                [–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Zlatan has been poor and shouldnt be starting. Darmian has looked average for a while and Shaw was shit today. With Rooney you get the glimpses of the past every now and then and it crushes your optimism when he does something poor like his 1st touch from the Martial chance. Rashford isnt a striker and I dont know why hes playing on the wing when we brought in Mkhi . Jose is to blame as well as the players.

                                                [–]biguk997Memphis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I took a shot for every poor pass we made under minimal pressure I would have died of alcohol poisoning

                                                [–]gwwelshdevil7Ronaldo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Kind of wanted Ibra to rip someone's head off so I could have at least seen some kind of life from United.

                                                [–]meep_meep_mope 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Only saw the BBC live text, they are loving ths. Not even a hint of impartiality.

                                                [–]JustinC00 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Hope Mkhi and Mata start against Swansea.

                                                [–]quit_daedalusRooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                We have changed 3 managers and our problems have gone even worse. There is something deeper than just the managers. we have to change our board I'm fucking sure of it.

                                                [–]ParkerZAYoung 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Okay, we were shit, no doubt about it. But I'm going to defend Mourinho anyway. I see a couple of people saying he's lost the plot and has no idea what to do. Well, this is what we have the rest of the season for, for him to figure it out. We keep on repeating that we need patience, that it takes time, but all I see is impatience. Relax, guys, he'll figure it out.

                                                [–]ProdigyMUFCZLATAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                There was seriously people happy over here that Darmian finally got to play the last time. Hope they are happy now. Useless player, should be left behind in turkey.

                                                [–]jackets0601Mata 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                On a positive note, we control our own destiny to progress to the knockout stages. On a negative note, we control our own destiny to progress to the knockout stages.

                                                [–]simmejanneHerrera 11ポイント12ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                Rooney was pretty good tbh

                                                [–]Danda_NakkaMartial & Giggs 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                Not sure. His first touch let him down. Pogba created a good chance but Rooney's first touch...

                                                [–]TudoorsScholes 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Pogba created about 10 for Ibrahimovic last game while we're at it

                                                [–]Danda_NakkaMartial & Giggs 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Yup. If by the end if this season zlatan and Rooney's career are not finished I would be surprised.

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                                                  [–]EastOfEden_Van Nistelrooy 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  His goal was outstanding, but the rest was pretty poor.

                                                  [–]SlappyBaggMichael "The Knife" Carrick 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Much better than Ibra has been recently

                                                  [–]androidenthusiast08He's only been on loan... 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Except his horrific first touch.

                                                  [–]yiyiyiyiPogba 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  Seriously? He's was awful, did nothing for 90 minutes and messed up our best chance with an unforgivably bad touch.

                                                  He wasn't the only bad player, Zlatan was just as bad.

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                                                    [–]laffmanIbrahimovic 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                    It was nice seeing Mkhitarian. He seemed dangerous and that's what i'll take from this match.

                                                    [–]GermanLBJ 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    He did? All I remember from him was an atrocious back pass resulting in an Emenike effort..

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                                                      [–]xkufixSchneiderlin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I din't even like this sport anyway.

                                                      Frustrating to watch at the moment.

                                                      [–]BanterEnchanter 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      A very very clear case of injury faking, unforunately there's no way to penalise this

                                                      [–]ify_or_e-bay 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Darmian can't cross to save his life

                                                      [–]McGriftyBüttner - 1 Gerrard - 0 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Fucking love Rooney. Fuck all of his critics. Club legend always and forever

                                                      [–]kelter20Mata 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      That's gonna be a long plane ride home.

                                                      [–]orangebananapieShaw 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Left it too late. Ten minutes to go I felt like we'd given up.

                                                      [–]tisadi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Don't think we deserved to be that close.

                                                      [–]dkeighobadiRashford 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I am so fucking tired of describing every game as absolute cancer that I really don't even feel the need to be angry anymore. It's just pure disappointment that week in week out the players think it's acceptable to produce these types of performances. We don't show passion, we don't attack with vigour, we don't defend (at all in fact) and as a result we get consistently outplayed.

                                                      [–]jaimatad -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Shaw and Blind were very bad, and we had a non- existent RW after Rashford came off. What's the fucking use of Mkhi, Mata, Rooney and Zlatan all playing CAM?

                                                      [–]cshields236Paul Scholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Fuck this, this feeling is becoming all too common these past few years. Anyway, only way is up I suppose

                                                      [–]ShinobiusPaul Scholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Absolutely shambolic performance. The only positives were we didn't lose by more goals and Rooney looking slightly more sharper than usual. Thought Martial was the only one who could hold his head high. Disgusted these guys get paid so much.

                                                      [–]OneTrueEmiyagoals against City 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I don't even know what's wrong with the team anymore.

                                                      [–]Don_Mahoon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I'll preface this by saying I still have belief in Mou and our squad, but god damn was that a painful game to watch. The last 8 or so minutes were decent, and Rooney had a great shot, but otherwise I'm not happy with our performance.

                                                      [–]ZachMichSchweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Our full backs were crap. I don't even know what the solution to this shit is. Hopefully Pogba isn't out for long

                                                      [–]Granty_C 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

                                                      [–]manunited9Jose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Yeah really there is no speed no urgency no fluidity in our attacking play at all, obviously the defense is injured but also poor play from them today.

                                                      [–]_Slabs_Le Roi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Three world class goals...

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