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Cinema is a liar. (self.RocketLeague)

Ikewolf が 投稿

Hi.

First I wanna apologize about my bad english. im writing this diretly on this reddit post wiping out my tears because Im fustrated.

Maybe some of you know me as a 1v1 player, doing multiple side events like Mockit's and PRL's. But we're not here to talk about myself. Today, on the mockit NA 1v1, I faced Cinema in the round of 32. Won the series 2-0, and him being the community leader of multiple communities and an awsome player, I didn't take screenshots, due to trust.

The thing is, when I tried to report the score, he started saying that he was the one that won, and I was lying. I got mad, real mad. I get mad pretty easily. This was the most mad Ive gotten in a while. I first thought it was a joke, but it wasn't. I've done multiple mockit tournaments, and been an active member in their community. But I understand the position of mods : no screenshots, redo the series. The thing is, I was tilted beyong belief, and couldn't play nearly as good as I can. So he won.

Now the thing is, Haku doesn't like me (that's another story), and all his community now thinks I'm a retarded liar. That's a lot of people. I cannot let this pass. Especially Cinema's attitude. That's why im doing this post. This guy seriously needs to be banned from RL tournments. I've never heard so much bullshit in all the tournaments I've done, and I didn't expect him to take advantage of his position and Haku defending him + him being a known player to bring me down that much. Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Haku, I've done something bad to him and I regret my decision, and he has all the reasons to trust Cinema.

I'm destroyed. I've never felt so destroyed in a long time.

I'm sorry I cannot let all these lies go through, especially when it makes poeple think I'm the liar myself.

If this post could make anyone believe that I'm actually the truth teller in this story I would be glad. I really don't want poeple to hate me for something I never did.

EDIT : Apparently a proof for my saying has been found. I'll keep you updated

EDIT2 : proof in the comments. Thx to all the community support. Didn't excpect that. Love you guys <3

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[–]BroadwayRLBroadway 200ポイント201ポイント  (8子コメント)

You may be able to get the score/proof out of the logs the game prints out to Documents\My Games\Rocket League\TAGame\Logs

I and many others vouch for you, but I'd still recommend looking through those for some solid proof.

[–]Ikewolf[S] 87ポイント88ポイント  (2子コメント)

could you help me with that? I cant read this log lmao. Dont mind adding me on steam

[–]BroadwayRLBroadway 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh shit I forgot I posted this, I'm glad you got it sorted out!

[–]OdiahnPRL [Moderator] 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're a god. Thank you sir!

[–]OdiahnPRL [Moderator] 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a thing? Wut. That's amazing.

[–]bestjejust 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hate to say this, but if the logs aren't signed in some way, they're not worth a penny since anybody can manipulate them. IF there is a servername in the logs, psyonix might counter check that in their serverlogs (supposed they're willing to ;))

[–]AskHugotwitch.tv/FreedomRL 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

It doesn't serve as final conclusive evidence. But the chance that Ike would even known how to properly modify the logs to falsify the results is very slim, so it corroborates with the rest of the story.

Either way that is irrelevant now since Cinema admitted to lying.

[–]tb8592 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

damnnnn someone went to law school I see u

[–]ExpozziaForever waiting on flair 142ポイント143ポイント  (3子コメント)

Surprised you even thought Cinema was a decent guy to begin with, just looking at his twitter alone you can tell he's not. He tries to start shit with people almost everyday.

[–]SkyralighWe Talkin' 'Bout Practice? 75ポイント76ポイント  (2子コメント)

I decided to go through it today, and actually had a good laugh; he's so pathetic.

[–]AukosChallenger III 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

He don't need you, he's got friends......like 9 of'em. They even party together, on Halloween...in his room. Dude is going places.

[–]furtiveraccoonShowDown.gg [Organizer] 90ポイント91ポイント  (8子コメント)

I know it sucks for whoever's telling the truth here, but to anyone reading this: please save your replays and take screenshots when playing in tournaments. It's what we need, as TOs, in order to rectify situations where someone has indeed done something like what's accused here.

[–]QuentillionairePRL [Manager] 34ポイント35ポイント  (7子コメント)

Cannot agree more. Until Rocket League releases an API where we can just grab this data, saving screenshots and replays are really the only thing you can do to make sure the truth is reported.

[–]furtiveraccoonShowDown.gg [Organizer] 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

*open *public API

smash.gg has access to one to fetch match data ;)

[–]QuentillionairePRL [Manager] 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good point lol

I have inside information that an API will be coming out soon (TM), but I don't know when, or what it will contain :/

[–]furtiveraccoonShowDown.gg [Organizer] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's inevitable (in a good way)

[–]MnGKing 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Excactly smash.gg supports it already

[–]furtiveraccoonShowDown.gg [Organizer] 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

And we (ShowdownGG) still ask you to please save screenshots/replays just in case. It's worth noting that smash.gg supports it because they have access to it. It is not a public API.

[–]Spirit_Theory 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am a developer (not for Psyonix obviously), and I have built a lot of APIs that perform comparable functions to what the Rocket League API is doing; it wouldn't be difficult at all to make it fit for use by other major organisations within the community. This is definitely something tournament-running-communities should be pushing for, because it's very much within the realms of possibility.

[–]QuentillionairePRL [Manager] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh trust me, we are pushing for it. I've been in contact with the developers since rlcs season 1 finals to try to get updates on the situation. Being a developer myself, I fully agree with you, it shouldn't be too difficult, but I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, or how high up it is on their priorities.

[–]Aj16aywe are ALL grand champs on this blessed day :) 83ポイント84ポイント  (8子コメント)

What the fuck, I'm just seeing this now after watching most of the tournament today. I've always known Cinema as a toxic fuck who abuses teammates (and opponents) in ranked, overall extremely unpleasant to be in a game with. But for some reason I didn't think he would stoop this low. Honestly he should be banned from competing in tournaments but that's not going to happen. Also sucks for the viewers when Cinema got destroyed by Chausette in the final when Ikewolf could have made it an entertaining game

[–]PerryPurpDrankSuperstar 62ポイント63ポイント  (6子コメント)

He got banned from all PRL tournaments for ever. He took the fattest rocket league L of 2016.

[–]Huskatta 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

Say what?

[–]TrakasisRevival 57ポイント58ポイント  (4子コメント)

HE SAID, "HE GOT BANNED FROM ALL PRL TOURNAMENTS FOR EVER. HE TOOK THE FATTEST ROCKET LEAGUE L OF 2016"

[–]hawickyBLUEEE 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

thank mr trakasis

[–]boringblah 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ROFL

[–]QuentillionairePRL [Manager] 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's been banned from 2 tournaments so far including mockit (where this incident occurred). There are lots of people that want to make sure the scene stays fair for everyone, and we're all working hard to stop incidents like this when they happen.

[–]ChaotykkMock-it League [CCO] 474ポイント475ポイント  (77子コメント)

Hey /u/Ikewolf ! I'm sorry this did not end up in your favor. I told you that we would be looking into it and we did. It took some time but thanks to Mockit's CTO, /u/yixn, we now have proof that you won the matches.

https://gyazo.com/bc0db30ea37a067e3599792d2cbd51bd https://gyazo.com/7e59dda8f21eaed9b9cce4b6af63430c

I wish you had a little more faith in us! Hopefully we can avoid future issues with screenshots or replays! :)

[–]YanMK9Northern Gaming 194ポイント195ポイント  (54子コメント)

So what's going to happen with Cinema now? I think you should ban him from future tournaments.

[–]ChaotykkMock-it League [CCO] 336ポイント337ポイント  (52子コメント)

One problem at a time my friend! It will definitely not be pleasant for Cinema though!

[–]jaryd55 205ポイント206ポイント  (0子コメント)

Savage!

[–]JeffSala27Champ in 1s & 2s 65ポイント66ポイント  (0子コメント)

Finally I can agree with something that Mockit is doing.

[–]StepToStepSpiralChallenger III 35ポイント36ポイント  (49子コメント)

Sounds like you're not going to do anything?

[–]37_types_of_teaREUNITED 29ポイント30ポイント  (47子コメント)

Don't quote me, but I've heard that Cinema has been banned from Mockit for 4 months.

[–]StepToStepSpiralChallenger III 43ポイント44ポイント  (0子コメント)

sweet. 4 months. wow. wonder how many tournaments will be held

[–]ChaotykkMock-it League [CCO] 62ポイント63ポイント  (45子コメント)

That is correct. Cinema has been banned from participating in any Mockit tournaments for 4 months. That serve as a "warning" of sorts.

[–]Day_Bow_Bow 121ポイント122ポイント  (18子コメント)

I really think that 4 months is a bit light on the punishment. This guy committed fraud. Ban him for a year at least, if not permanently.

You wouldn't get a "warning" when you break the rules. You should get punished.

[–]JeffSala27Champ in 1s & 2s 25ポイント26ポイント  (16子コメント)

Don't worry. When his ban is over he'll be back and do something like this again and then he can get his permanent ban.

[–]DudeWithTheNoseWild Card 5ポイント6ポイント  (15子コメント)

i agree with you. Perma-bans without further warning are way overkill.

No one needs a warning not to cheat like this, but consistency in how punishments are dealt is good.

[–]Dead-A-Chek 31ポイント32ポイント  (14子コメント)

Why are you always defending these guys? He literally lied to invalidate a series. You don't need to be warned that that's against the rules. He compromised the integrity of an entire tournament.

[–]therealmikelane 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Perhaps they're setting a precedent for altering the results of a match or lying about a result.

Although he is unpopular and unpleasant to play with I gather that this is his first serious offense and a temporary ban seemed a more appropriate sentence. If they handed out a much more serious fine because he is so unpopular and/or unpleasant then that would set an unfair precedent for any other player that might make a similar offense in the future.

[–]StoopidSxyFlanders 58ポイント59ポイント  (13子コメント)

A "warning"???? He did this 110% intentionally, you don't give warnings for blatant cheating, you ban them indefinitely. I'm actually considering cheating now if all I'll get is 4 months temp ban at absolute worst.

[–]SirGidrev 20ポイント21ポイント  (12子コメント)

I have to agree with you. This is pretty light punishment for someone who used his own clout as leverage. Cinema flat out lied. Ban him for life.

[–]thardocI didn't stop ranked after getting this high, no sir. 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

A warning is when you are bending or pushing the rules. Breaking deserves punishment, particularly when its at the expense of other players/

[–]PvPJackRising Star 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

I believe this should be a time to make an example of a user who tries to break rules like this. 4 months is kinda meh. I'd at least go for a solid 6 months - Half a year without competitions. 4 Months is such a random number.

[–]Krumm 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a third of a year, pretty normal fraction? 5 months? Now that would be ridiculous.

[–]VibeRaiderLPSuperstar 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

4 months is 1/3 a year. Isn't RLCS aiming for like thirds for their event? Might be related to trying to set 4 month cycles. (I could be wrong, but I remember RLCS being something like this, may be entirely mistaken.)

[–]PvPJackRising Star 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Call me a cunt but I'd happily see him banned for 6 months meaning he misses two seasons in that case. More salt in the wounds that he's unbanned but with no point of competing with half the season already gone.

[–]MtnDew2088All-Star 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

This almost encourages other players to cheat for money.. if the worst case scenario is a 4 month ban I can easily see players trying to take advantage of situations like this

[–]VibeRaiderLPSuperstar 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not really. If you compete you SHOULD keep official screens and replays to prove your result. Not leave it up to the word of another. Always document results. If replays were saved or screens taken I imagine it's be settled by whoever is in charge and moved on properly. In this case neither side had proud so they were forced to rematch. This result, ultimately, comes because the victor didn't document. Lessons to be learned.

[–]MtnDew2088All-Star 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not advocating cheating im just pointing out that a 4 month ban isnt very scary and it wont scare people away from trying to cheat the system.

[–]Syn7axError 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he needed a "warning" a long time ago.

[–]EdkoeFlipSid3 Tactics 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its not like he was a decent player to begin with no one will regret besides him

[–]RandomDuckWithAHatRising Star 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's retarded.

[–]M1lkyRips420its almost to easy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

wow how can you allow cheaters to stay in the community?

[–]theDoctorAteMyBaby 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

...in what way?

[–]Snoino 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

BURN HIM

[–]AskHugotwitch.tv/FreedomRL 59ポイント60ポイント  (6子コメント)

I hope other orgs step up and ban him from their tournaments too. Wouldn't want this to happen again to any other players.

/u/Quentillionaire /u/dotpeenge /u/CloudFuel

[–]GloryforgePRL [Manager] 258ポイント259ポイント  (4子コメント)

Cinema has been banned from all future PRL tournaments and events.

[–]LinktankLinktank 80ポイント81ポイント  (3子コメント)

Justice boner.

[–]AlphaChiRoach 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

But can't he just play under another name?

[–]SpaceBunnehiBuyPower Cosmic 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, though one would assume it would be a ban on sight if he's just hopping accounts. There's other players who do this in other games and that's how that goes.

[–]crushnosPRL [Designer] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd assume he'd be screwed if he actually won any event under a pseudonym. Upon payment time if the org hadn't already figured out who he was they would very quickly. which would be even worse for that person. It would potentially be easier for someone who is unknown to do since most people don't know who that person is, but for someone like cinema it'd be pretty hard to pull off without getting caught.

[–]dotpeengeShift Pro League [Adminstrator] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

An update from us (Shift Pro League):

Cheating will not be tolerated at SPL and known cheaters will not be allowed in the SPL community. Due to Cinema's actions last night in the MockIt tourney, we will be backing their decision and will be banning him for 4 months from SPL tournaments.

[–]bc26BCSpeed 26ポイント27ポイント  (5子コメント)

Can you explain how those logs prove he won the matches? I'm not sure what to look for.

[–]AskHugotwitch.tv/FreedomRL 63ポイント64ポイント  (4子コメント)

It shows that the game tried to load the asset "GFX_WinnerMenu" which would only happen if you've won the match.

[–]legomanz 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thanks, I was wondering too. Now I just wonder why it failed to load the winner menu. That doesn't seem good.

[–]YixnRL Tracker Pro [Administrator] 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess that this is an old relic, but they kept it specially for that purpose. Cause there's nothing else in there pointing out the Winner.

[–]deadbunny 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Games (and other programs) usually have a lot of cruft like this hanging around from older versions. Sometimes it's easier just to remove the thing it's trying to load and have it throw an error than remove the code.

[–]pRtkL_xLr8r 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just wondering if the game worked how it was supposed to and successfully loaded it, would it still have given an entry - or just gone on it's merry way. If that's the case, if the game were "perfect", he wouldn't have gotten the proof he needed...

[–]TexasThrowDown 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wish you had a little more faith in us!

Lol the dude got unjustly shafted and this is the response. Classy

[–]anotherdroid 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah, that made me cringe.

[–]throneofbob 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same exact thought... Messed up to get slighted like this when you were the absolute victim.

[–]GrandviewOhio 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

"@Protatooo i mean honestly i dont care lol. I feel for Ike but like this community sucks anyway and I don't want to be a part of it." -Cinema. Looks like he wants a permaban

[–]Hitlerdinger 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

can't you just edit those logs with notepad if you know what to look for?

[–]DudeWithTheNoseWild Card 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

that's why you should screenshot and use this as a last resort

[–]SiorethI'm just here for the hats 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking rekt! Great job following up and finding the evidence.

[–]adub2b23-AduB 83ポイント84ポイント  (5子コメント)

This kid should be exiled from rocket league. It's one thing to be annoying and toxic, but another thing to cheat because you can't handle losing.

[–]TankOMFGTriumph | Vohlumes 45ポイント46ポイント  (4子コメント)

1000000% he is a tumor on the community of a good competitive scene. Starts random shit, clings to relevancy through things other than being competitive, and is deceitful for his own benefit.

[–]yskeem 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you followed Starcraft 2 back in the day, this guy sounds like the equivalent of CombatX or Deeser. I don't follow RL like most of the people in this thread but this guy sounds like a tool.

[–]fuckin_in_the_bushes 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like a teenager with not a lot else going on in his life. Reading his twitter feed is pathetic. His attempts at sounding edgy are so cringy.

[–]Beavis999 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Deezer* RatZ stay RatZ

[–]dannybox 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ratz stay ratz

[–]QuentillionairePRL [Manager] 121ポイント122ポイント  (13子コメント)

I've known Ikewolf for more than a year now, in more than just the RL community. I used to speedrun games with him, and I've never seen him like this before, even on the worst "reset hell" races we've had. I 100% trust that Ike wouldn't falsify the scores.

 

Sorry Ike, the only advice I can give going forward is that the chance at winning the cash prize for tournaments isn't worth getting into this kind of stress for. I would suggest that you participate in tournaments that you know will treat everyone equally. Your non-participation in tournaments is a very big sign that you're upset with them (as is every person that chooses not to participate in a tournament)

edit: big shoutout to /u/BroadwayRL and /u/Chaotykk for working hard to get behind the truth. Broadway provided a way for the admins to get proof from Ike's log files of the outcome of the matches and they found the truth. Stick in there Ike, you have a ton of support from people all around the RL community, and we all want to get behind the truth. <3

[–]DudeWithTheNoseWild Card 63ポイント64ポイント  (12子コメント)

I would suggest that you participate in tournaments that you know will treat everyone equally.

To be fair, they were treated equally. It's an awful situation but I don't see what else the admins can do here. No screenshots, no proof.

[–]JChagastelles 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe Ike, but you're right, the admins handled it the only fair way, asking for them to play again...

If they just gave the win to cinema without screenshots, then THAT would not be fair.

[–]DudeWithTheNoseWild Card 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

exactly. They can't do much more in this case. I doubt any other tourney organizer would have handled this any differently.

I don't know how anyone could handle this differently.

[–]QuentillionairePRL [Manager] 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

I should clarify: This is my position on any player problems in any tournament. If you as a player feel like you were treated poorly in a tournament, don't play in it. That's the biggest thing you can do to let a tournament know you're upset. Regardless of this situation, and what the actual truth was, I will stand by that until the end of time.

[–]DudeWithTheNoseWild Card 16ポイント17ポイント  (8子コメント)

If you as a player feel like you were treated poorly in a tournament, don't play in it.

I can't wrap my head around this tbh. I don't see how someone could be upset with the tourney organizers in a situation like this. It's the other player who is a dick, and it's was your own error for not screenshotting.

Just seems like you're punishing yourself and the tournament organizers with that solution, while the liar faces no repercussion.

[–]QuentillionairePRL [Manager] 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

Like I said, my point was generic. In this situation, the mods might have done everything right. For me, one of my good friends is being keelhauled for something I believe shouldn't have happened. Just trying to support him and prevent him from having to go through this trauma in the future.

[–]DudeWithTheNoseWild Card 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm not in anyway trying to somehow make this Ike's fault, but don't you think the word "trauma" is overly melodramatic?

[–]QuentillionairePRL [Manager] 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think so at all. Whether the same situation would affect you as harshly or not, to Ike it was a major affair. I've known Ike for a long time, and I've never seen him like that before.

[–]DudeWithTheNoseWild Card 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's fair, people react to things differently. I'm not here to make anyone feel bad.

[–]MiddleThumbChallenger Elite 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Screenshotting is the responsibility of the winner specifically to settle disputes. Sure, he was not in the wrong, but he still fucked up. I'm glad they were able to prove that he was in fact the winner afterall.

[–]VibeRaiderLPSuperstar 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Honestly this is on Ike. Right now it seems like there are literally 0 other choices. He didn't have proof and expected someone's word to be true, that is never a good idea in competitive environment. If they tournament organizer doesn't have better tools at hand to fix it, the player has to cover their own ass.

[–]DudeWithTheNoseWild Card 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean I kinda see where Ike is coming from, Cinema being well known this is effectively suicide, but in any tourney the organizers always say take screenshots.

[–]VibeRaiderLPSuperstar 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. I mean it sucks, but there is way too much ignoring that Ike is responsible for his own fate here. It sucks, 100%, no arguing that. But that doesn't change the fact everyone has the tools to prevent this from happening to them, if you don't use it, then that is on you. But I guess being an adult, I understand personal responsibility and that life sure as in fuck isn't fair.

[–]ZenerismLegalize cocaine 57ポイント58ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't really know who you are or what you're talking about, but I trust you (:

[–]ExpozziaForever waiting on flair 39ポイント40ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's a top100 1v1 player

[–]YanMK9Northern Gaming 43ポイント44ポイント  (0子コメント)

Atleast Chaussette destroyed him in the finals.

[–]hooftoofPRL | scheist 47ポイント48ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can vouch for Ikewolf. He's done a bunch of PRL tournaments and has always been fair and easy to work with. Sorry about this man!

[–]OdiahnPRL [Moderator] 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

I too can vouch for Ike. He's a very trust-worthy person. I hope for the best for you, Ike! <3

[–]IronhypeLoomin | Twitch.tv/Ironhype 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ikewolf, I know we have never talked personally or at length, but from all my dealings with you in tournaments and the like, you are nothing short of an outstanding person from what I can tell. Even the times we bump uglies in ranked queues or tournies, you've always been a super nice guy to both your teammates and opponents. Don't let this one bad tournament that you got cheated out of get to you man; Trust me, people do not hate you, and those that think you are a liar are simply misinformed and uneducated if they are listening to the word of someone who is notorious in the Rocket League community. If you ever need to talk hit me up on Discord.

[–]Hawk_ZefyrGC in MMXVI LUL 80ポイント81ポイント  (6子コメント)

Cinema abusing his position? I'd never have thought

Ah well, one more reason to distance myself as far as possible from Mockit I guess

[–]MnGKing 49ポイント50ポイント  (4子コメント)

Not Mock-it's fault in that situation tbh. Just a player vs player conflict.

[–]Hawk_ZefyrGC in MMXVI LUL 36ポイント37ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not specifically Mockit's fault, but I know Cinema and Luckey are close, in the end this is just one more shitty thing to add to the list of "why not to ever associate with Mockit" imo

[–]MnGKing 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aight, didnt know about that sry <3

[–]Hammsee 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Personally, I love the Mockit org, they have awesome tournaments and great casters. Just because cinema cheated is no where near a valid reason to hate them

[–]Hawk_ZefyrGC in MMXVI LUL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe not, however, there is already many other valid reasons, but I won't get into those here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–]DzooatlatlLF my sanity 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know right? Anyone who has ever played a game with cinema will know just what type of person he is.

[–]R_Lupin 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ban cinema from psyonix games for life

[–]MnGKing 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow Ike, that's insane. Even tho i think this post wont last long: You are very right with the point that this lying thing has to be banned, especially if the price is money. I totally belief Ike in that position and i cant understand Cinema in that position.

[–]AtticusLynchSkin Flute Breath 13ポイント14ポイント  (8子コメント)

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sp8kfs

This is Cinema's tweet a couple hours ago about his "apology" whether you believe it or not.

He openly admits to lying about it at a halloween party too

/u/Ikewolf

[–]VibeRaiderLPSuperstar 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

"Party" of 9 people in a room. "Life now." (I totally relate to playing a video game tournament while 9 people are in my room partying to having a real life..........)

Kids a turd, at least he owned up to the fact he douched out. Still, fuck him.

[–]ObeseWizard<- Rank Adjustments Did This [PC - ObeseWizard] 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not really. He's claiming that he "accidentally" reported that he won, and never actually owns up to "Yeah I reported that I won, I knew that I didn't win and I shouldn't have done that"

If he "accidentally" reported incorrectly, then shouldn't that have been turned over the second that Ike went to dispute the claim? Cinema backing Ike up would have led to a flip with Ike winning - there's not much dispute when your opponent backs you up. But instead, Ike had to come here, to Reddit, to try to gain some support. I don't buy the "my friends told me to dispute Ike's correction for fun" thing.

The whole thing is a bunch of BS, who the frick has 9 people over for a halloween party and then proceeds to play in a rocket league tournament? Also who has friends that think that it's funny to change the tournament score of a game that they don't care about, just "for the lulz"

The dude really just needs to own up to the mistake he made.

[–]fuckin_in_the_bushes 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sorry this is formatted like I have a mental disorder, part of that is probably because I do, but it's mostly because it's 5:30AM and I'm hung over. I'm going the fuck to bed, goodnight.

2cool4me

[–]CleverFoxGamerTake 3 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cinema is obviously a scummy person, anyone who follows this subreddit regularly or knows anything about mockit knows that. It just sucks that people allow stuff like this to happen.

[–]VibeRaiderLPSuperstar 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never even heard of him until now. I am definitely following this sub regularly...

[–]PurePsykosisPRL [Manager] 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry to hear this Ike! I believe you. <3 :D

[–]DookieeBrownSuperstar 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

ike is such a good dude. and has no reason to lie for such a stupid reason such as a mockit tourney. for someone to lie over a tourney like this shows the true character of said person. keep going strong ike . the community has your back.

[–]antonmaheshMock-it League [Moderator] 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm truly sorry for what happened in the series between you and cinema.

As it stands the ruling that was applied was in the staffs vision the best thing to do.

The staff over at mockit was not willing to treat one of either ones saying as correct which is why the ruling was to redo the game.

Cinema is not directly affiliated with mockit and whatever happened will be seen as a bad thing that happened for all parties involved.

It has not taken away anything about your trustworthiness and anyone saying so is just trying to kick you while you are down.

[–]ItsEliteBeefNexus Gaming Mod 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I WAS a moderator at mockit(I'm now on Nexus Gaming) and I know Ike well enough to trust him, and I've seen enough of Cinema too. And I believe in Ike. And for the people shit talking mockit about this, they have nothing to do with what happened.

Ike, just do what I do and save a replay & screenshot of any important matches you play then at the end of the event just delete em if ya want.

I vouch for Ikewolf. He'd a good guy.

[–]FalconHoof88 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cinema just rage quit out of the finals so a bit of Karma at least!

[–]stonecollinNexus Gaming 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love you Ike, im happy that that you figured out he way lying. You're a good guy, only hope the best for you.

[–]JrawlyDown Taunt 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awh I'm late. We like Ike!

[–]prealm_beeExodus 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've never seen cinema play a tournament and not start flinging shit everywhere as soon as he starts losing

[–]jjtoob 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry dude, I know it sucks to not be trusted when you are being honest, but liars can say the same things an honest person can. What this post should have been is a PSA to always keep proof of your performance in tournaments. Hope the best for you in the future.

[–]Rocketboy4221Suddenly Rising Star :O 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

#LockHimUp

[–]jiffedFlipSid3 Tactics 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck, man. I love it when the bad guy gets caught. :)

[–]MensotinProspect I 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Cinema was never a good dude, he should have a ban from tournys for this behavior

[–]SuperRonJonSuperRonJon 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Already banded from mock and PRL

[–]MensotinProspect I 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Permanently? Even if not it's something. Cinema is a lying bastard

[–]etekillerSuperstar 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mock - 4 months, PRL - perma.

[–]MensotinProspect I 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Serves him damn right.

[–]VegasQC 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was tryint to google 'mockit cinema' because I have no idea who we're talking about (I dont have much time to follow the RL pro scene unfortunately), and I could only assume that we werent talking about the Cinema Rocket League guy on Youtube - but this post comes up as #4 on the google results now

[–]Pepehatu_Nuva 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

hey man just wanted to say I watched practically all of your ori & the blind forest runs. they helped me decompress and your skills are frankly mind blowing. Don't let this one moment put you off something you are so incredibly good at. I'm sure given the opportunity you can beat him at a later date. besides if he is a cheater as you say he will keep doing it and will eventually be caught. you will prove his better in the long run.

[–]SammyplsFlipSid3 Tactics 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welp, I have someone that I really hate from the community of every game I play. And now, Cinema's the guy I really, really fucking hate from RL's community. Hey Cinema, if you're reading this, I would like you to know, good job ruining your reputation forever, I hope you enjoy being the hated mascot, and the joke of the community.

[–]armidilo01Rising Star 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know who Cinema is, but Fuck Cinema

[–]Stuf404Calculated 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is it possible to contract some sort of mental disease after reading cinemas twitter?

Serious note: it does appear he needs some sort of counseling.

[–]poklane 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I might go get an aids test soon just to be sure tbh

[–]TylerLew89All-Star 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

What in the world is mock it and where do I learn more or sign up?

[–]Madforaday 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember gamebattles in Socom 2, the mods on that site were awful and if you knew a mod you were golden. My doubles partner went 6-0 in Gamebattles, but on the site we were 1-3... It was just an awful system but it was during the Ps2 era lol

[–]B23vital 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

A big lesson learned here for OP and anyone else taking part in tournaments. Trust no one. Take that screen shot, save that replay and don't trust your opponent ever. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!

Glad to see the devs sorted this out.

[–]tputsSuperstar 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like you already got justice, glad to see that. But just wanted to say, take it as a lesson to take documenting your wins seriously so you can avoid it happening again. It would be heart breaking for me, too, so I feel ya.

Setup a hotkey you like to take an easy screen in steam or GeForce if you use that so its just the press of a button and get in the habit. :)

[–]moris1610Mock-It Aces 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i am really happy for you that it turned out good for you man. good luck. :)

[–]b1kerguy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow!!!

[–]jy_jelly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

if this is the Cinema I'm thinking of who I played with the first week of RL with Klassux and Stunty, I'm lolin hard.

[–]deadbunny 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe psyonics could introduce an auto scoreboard screenshot feature like source engine games? Or possibly log game stats to the log file? (though text is much easier to doctor that an image).

[–]RLRaderZ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm glad he got caught, although there are many others who feel free to do this so the ban should scare them away! I was just wondering how the screenshots prove ikewolf won, and where/how you acquired that?

[–]binaryecho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was logs, not screenshots, that proved the win.

[–]Fuckeddit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This thread is full of half satisfying justice. Grats OP.

[–]EdkoeFlipSid3 Tactics 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was cinema the guy that paid lan ticket for over jesus but than wanted the money back ?

[–]Foskeh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm glad something was done. Good job!

[–]dietTwinkies 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just based on my own experiences with Cinema, I know he's a toxic little shit, so this totally seems to me like something he would do.

[–]SoupyOfficial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad you sorted this out! :)

[–]utricularianChallenger III 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad to see the salty shit behavior is at the top as well as down in the low leagues :(

(but also relieved to see it got sorted out)

[–]davidthetechgeeksolo standard has ruined me 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad to see everything is sorted out. Cinema needs to be banned tbh

[–]lukelikecrazypls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad to hear you got everything sorted out dude <3

It's nice to see a community come together to make a positive impact

[–]TheLazyProphet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a fucking tilted kid in the Rocket League community. He deserves to be banned

[–]3-day-respawn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder when we will finally get a match history? I've waited for several month and I'm sure there are people who've waited for more than a year :/

[–]SStrider77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's just an asshole. You shouldn't trust anyone in tournaments tho. This isn't happening for first time with Cinema. He just fucked himself up. Much more people thinks he's an asshole now. He deserves a ban,unfair player and 0 respect. Shame on him.

[–]joshp111F3ltup 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there any word on Cinema's Response? Im gonna be honest, as a superstar-low champion player that drew him often in ranked I never saw a huge issue with the guy. EDIT: Holy crap this guy is irritating. Here is his reddit, I commented almost a year back on a post he made of me of me so I was able to find it https://www.reddit.com/user/CinemaCloud

[–]steazzywonderGrand Champion 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hes a little racist brat. Cancer of the community.

[–]OurSuiGenerisit's not my fault 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Want to upvote... but post has 1,337 points...

[–]ChattanoogaGuy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That'll teach you to take screenshots next time.

[–]thebestkiller111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ikewolf nice job dude I'm fairly new to these tournaments but I've seen u win almost every tournament in mockit since I started watching a few weeks ago and I thought you were telling the truth at the start.

[–]aliniaziTotally not carried 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hakubai 1v1'ed him yesterday, everyone on stream died of the salt. he was so salty.

[–]AshKetchumRLExodus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cinema just needs to be banned from anything RL related. I'm so sick of a guy trying his hardest to tarnish such a great community. I'm sorry for this man!

[–]Very_legitimate -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not the first time this has happened. Won't be the last time, either

I don't know why people still mess with mockit

[–]tobvet -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

haha

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