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Harry Reid to FBI director Comey: "You may have broken the law": Reid says the FBI has “explosive information” about Trump’s ties to Russia — but it’s sitting on it to help Trump win. (vox.com)

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[–]wonderful_wonton 282ポイント283ポイント  (43子コメント)

Everybody is missing the bombshell:

In the letter, Reid drew a contrast between how Comey has treated the Clinton email probe and how he has handled what Reid described as “explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government.”

“The public has a right to know this information,” Reid said. “I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information. By contrast, as soon as you came into possession of the slightest innuendo related to Secretary Clinton, you rushed to publicize it in the most negative light possible.”

Comey has been sitting on information about Trump's relationships and coordination with Russia, and not releasing the information to the public.

[–]Zorseking34 183ポイント184ポイント  (29子コメント)

If that's true, then this will be the largest conspiracy in American history since Watergate. Trump having open ties to Russia in which t he FBI director just sat on for months and due to the GOP possibly blackmailing him he never released it and by the end of the election we see Trump's real ties to Russia and the FBI director resigning as a result, possibly going to federal prison. Jesus Christ....

[–]Poop_is_Food 103ポイント104ポイント  (12子コメント)

Now I know what it feels like to be a deplorable tin-foiler getting all excited about BOMBSHELLS

[–]Dudebromancer 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

I honestly don't think there are any real undecided voters left, though. People may describe themselves that way for one reason or another, but I'm fairly sure st this point that voters are more or less decided. We just have to wait and see what the decision was. I doubt a scandal of almost any magnitude could unseat one of the candidates now.

[–]avocategory 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

According to the polls, there are a historically high number of undecided voters left for this close to the election.

[–]verystinkyfingers 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we should consider that, for whatever reason, maybe these voters haven't declared who they are voting for. I cant imagine there are people still waiting to make a decision.

[–]yup_its_me_again 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

Man I don't know man you know that she like emails and like is a woman????? /s

[–]shakypearsthe shilliest shill in all shilldom 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

What if that 69-year-old woman has her period in office‽?!?!‽!?!11

[–]Poop_is_Food 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Has the Secret Service been trained to defend against bear attacks?

[–]shakypearsthe shilliest shill in all shilldom 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh no, they'd eat Michelle's vegetable garden!

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[–]uabroacirebuctityphe -25ポイント-24ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's also funny how the FBI director is torn apart by both sides when he does something against them. When he closed the first Clinton email case, you should have seen the backlash from the Republicans against him.

[–]therevengeofshBad Hombre 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Should have seen? We were there. He got torn apart be Democrats too.
So, deplorable what do you think the Saudi Royal family's plan for Hillary is? Since Huma is controlling her and all.

[–]emmky 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's also funny how the FBI director is torn apart by both sides when he does something against them. When he closed the first Clinton email case, you should have seen the backlash from the Republicans against him.

It's also funny how the FBI director is torn apart by both sides when he does something against them. When he closed the first Clinton email case, you should have seen the backlash from the Republicans against him.

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[–]alkaline-seltzer 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

I've kind of wondered why the Republicans doubled down so hard on Trump despite the fact that the Republican intelligentsia have basically concluded he's a threat to the existence of the republic.

But then this makes me realize, if Reid has likely been briefed about the FBI's investigation of the Trump campaign's ties to Russia, that must mean other GOP Senators have been briefed as well.

In other words, the GOP is basically hoping for Trump to win the election so they can simply impeach him and have their own chosen boy, Mike Pence, become president. They've basically sold their souls for some backdoor gamble and if there is any justice in this world, they'll eventually pay for it politically. But who am I kidding, the Republican electorate will still vote for them anyway.

[–]a_random_username_1 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

In other words, the GOP is basically hoping for Trump to win the election so they can simply impeach him and have their own chosen boy, Mike Pence, become president.

You are being too charitable.

[–]Saltysweetcake 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

No they just want to win to win...

[–]some_random_guy_5345F R E E S P E E C H 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've kind of wondered why the Republicans doubled down so hard on Trump despite the fact that the Republican intelligentsia have basically concluded he's a threat to the existence of the republic.

It's OK if the democracy no longer exists as long as they have control over the country.

[–]wonderful_wonton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In other words, the GOP is basically hoping for Trump to win the election so they can simply impeach him and have their own chosen boy, Mike Pence, become president.

Obviously, this is the plan. Trump cannot avoid impeachment with the stuff already on his record. Slam-dunk use of him as a Trojan horse for the GOP.

[–]Barry_Scotts_Cat 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can we say

RIGGED

[–]therevengeofshBad Hombre 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Like I said in another thread. They want to sit on it until Trump gets elected so they can impeach him so Pence can be installed a few months later. Pence was Manafort's pick, he tricked Trump into picking him with a plane malfunction. I wonder if Pence was in on the plan.

[–]wonderful_wonton 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Trump is already impeachable based on his fraud & racketeering and rape case alone. If Trump isn't stupid, he'll settle the rape case before discovery of evidence and depositions are taken. But it's too late for the fraud & racketeering case. Trump can be impeached based on the discovery materials already created.

[–]Barry_Scotts_Cat 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can you "settle" a criminal case?

[–]wonderful_wonton 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

These are all civil cases. You can sue for the same things that are crimes, in civil court. For some reason, no one ever brings criminal charges against Trump. The NY State attorney general is suing him for fraud, and didn't indict him on criminal charges. In the rape case, there are reasons beyond the woman's control why criminal cases associated with the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile ring cannot be brought (due to how immunity was granted).

[–]Hickle 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

If that's true, then this will be the largest conspiracy in American history since Watergate.

Okay let's chill just a bit. I'm not ready to call Comey anything beyond an idiot. It is an ongoing investigation.

[–]san_serifs 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

We all know Trump's bad habit of projecting and he called this latest FBI Hillary email thing "Biggest scandal since Watergate" so they might have some serious shit ready to be served up.

[–]pooleside 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you, I am getting very weary of hearing stupid phrases like 'nuke' or 'bombshell' in relation to this absurd parade, which is masquerading as an election in a civilised country; it is indeed nice to see some sanity remains.

Please everybody, if you mimic what you hate you doom yourselves to become what you hate.

[–]wonderful_wonton 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Comey has broken with DOJ policy and ethics. He needs to be fired, if not prosecuted, for interfering in an election.

It's not just me, but past FBI directors and Attorney Generals have come out with that. Obama needs to get on top of this and fire him, ASAP.

[–]rasa2013 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity, right? Haha

[–]f3ldman2 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem is that Reid has a shaky history with the truth. I highly doubt that Reid knows this information for sure. I'm almost certain he's talking out of his ass in an attempt to do some cleanup before it's too late.

Maybe Comey does have a bombshell that he's withholding, but I'd say the chances that Harry Reid's rhetoric here is based on any hard facts or insider information has gotta be close to zero, just judging on what he's done in the past

[–]The_DanceCommander 42ポイント43ポイント  (1子コメント)

Comey isn't releasing the information of Trump's ties to Russia for the exact same reason that he shouldn't have released the vague information he had on the Clinton/Not Clinton emails.

Both of the stories could effect the results of the election, and the FBI along with all other federal agencies have a strict policy against doing anything that would even look like they're trying to change the outcome.

The fact that Comey could have information on Trump, and is sitting on it completely magnifies the fact that he shouldn't have released the email information to begin with.

[–]DiscoConspiracy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Judging by some Internet comments, there are Republicans/Trump supporters who are in Trump Must Win At All Costs mode. Because Hillary is literally Satan, or something (like every other Democratic presidential candidate).

[–]piede[S] 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not really surprising considering we already know that the FBI is investigating Paul Manafort and intelligence officials are investigating a Trump foreign policy adviser/with requests from Congress for an FBI investigation, both for their ties to Russia and also Ukraine for Manafort.

It's not a far stretch to assume that when 2 high profile and senior people from a political campaign that has been pro-Russia are being investigated by the FBI/intelligence officials, that the campaign and the candidate itself aren't also under investigation. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump has multiple ongoing FBI investigations from sexual assault, to Russia ties, to other ties and shady dealings, and even tax evasion and/or tax fraud (though that may be more in the IRS' realm).

The FBI has been silent because it's presumably an ongoing investigation, which makes what Comey did even more stunning.

Also it's not like Reid is just pulling this out of his ass, he specifically cites his connection with the national security community and Comey himself as a source for this information:

In my communications with you and other top offcials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government

[–]Saltysweetcake 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I knew he had ties to Russia, it couldn't be more obvious. Do Americans care? Of course not...cuz Hillary's emails!

[–]NortonPike -3ポイント-2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Is this the same Harry Reid that said he had Mitt Romney's tax returns?

[–]maxelrod 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah. But if lying once lost a politician all credibility, we wouldn't have any politicians left.

[–]cumulonimbus2001 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly... Didn't Trump claim his "investigators" found disturbing information in Hawaii and a release was only a week away? Or basically every other time Trump has said he has uncovered information and will release it "soon".

[–]maxelrod 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like evidence that would prove all the accusations against him were false, but turned out to be one habitual liar who claimed (unconvincingly at that) to be able to refute one victim's account.

[–]SJHalflingRanger 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Got Mitt to release them though.

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[–]Saltysweetcake 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Harry Reid is actually pretty badass. He was amazing during the GWB horror years. He doesn't fuck around.

[–]PhilosophersLegacya small loan of one hundred billion dollars 60ポイント61ポイント  (11子コメント)

definitely has some ties vis a vis Manafort. Release what you know, FBI!

[–]wonderful_wonton 38ポイント39ポイント  (6子コメント)

Carter Page, Trump's former foreign policy adviser

Manafort is not the only Trump adviser to quit over Russian links. Carter Page, a former Merrill Lynch banker and adviser to Russian state energy company Gazprom, was named by Trump as a foreign policy adviser. Following an intelligence briefing about allegations Page conducted private talks with Russian officials about lifting sanctions if Trump were president, Senate minority leader Harry Reid demanded an FBI investigation. Page later resigned.

[–]braximillius 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

Just imagine how Republicans would act if someone on Hillary's team did this.

[–]Tantric989 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

There's not much reason for Trump to play coy on these, he didn't hire Manafort to run his campaign by accident.

[–]GrabEmByThePalossand 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's worth mentioning that he advised the campaigns of Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, H. W. Bush, and Bob Dole

[–]ukulelejTacoTrucksOnEveryCorner 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

But the Dubya Bush administration found out about his ties to Russia, so Trump has no excuse for not knowing about it.

[–]EggCouncil 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bob Dole just likes to hear Bob Dole talk about Bob Dole.

[–]Atraktape 111ポイント112ポイント  (19子コメント)

Reid has had enough of this bullshit.

[–]Phunk131 67ポイント68ポイント  (15子コメント)

We all have. This whole "scandal" is just a cocktease that produced absolutely nothing.

[–]Tantric989 69ポイント70ポイント  (14子コメント)

"Hey guys, we have some e-mails from somebody other than Hillary, there were never sent to Hillary, and she isn't even involved. but we're the FBI and we're looking at some e-mails. Hillary Clinton. VOTE TRUMP"

  • Comey, probably

[–]scofieldslays 8ポイント9ポイント  (13子コメント)

i dont understand how these new emails could be related to her server then...

[–]ALoudMouthBaby 33ポイント34ポイント  (10子コメント)

Most Americans have no clue how e-mail or a server works and have just lumped all of this into one big giant thing that they only vaguely understand. The waters have been intentionally muddied so effectively with this scandal that very few people really understand whats going on.

For fucks sake, anyone else remember how this all started with the House Ben Ghazi Committee, which basically tracked down a variety of internet conspiracy theories hoping they could find something to stick to Clinton?

[–]Tantric989 34ポイント35ポイント  (6子コメント)

I know it'll sound like I'm whitewashing what Hillary did, but for real, the biggest thing I got out of this scandal is just how bad/restrictive White House IT security is. Apparently HRC was denied a Blackberry for official business, so she fired up a private email server to get e-mails on mobile, just like her predecessor Colin Powell did. The only difference is Republicans are trying to destroy her over it, while they never really gave a shit when their own SoS was doing it.

Even the Huma Abedin case with these three emails looks just like IT incompetence. If they don't allow split tunnel VPN's, she wouldn't be able to see her local printers while VPN'd in for email, which means she probably just forwarded them to her internet email account so she could print them off. Careless/lazy? Sure. Anywhere near actual malicious intent or something on the level of Petraeus? Not even close.

Meanwhile, the Inspector General who should be overseeing all these things was a vacant post, one of many appointees that never got confirmed by our do-nothing Republican congress who intentionally obstructed Obama appointments to cabinet positions.

If you'd ask me out of all of this, it looks like these people were just trying to do their jobs.

[–]EggCouncil 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

do-nothing Republican congress

Let's refuse to fund embassy security properly and then spend millions of dollars on pointless investigations when embassy employees die.

[–]FizzleMateriel 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

And conveniently ignore the attacks on U.S. embassies that occurred under Reagan and the Bushes.

[–]ASigIAm213Cuck 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know it'll sound like I'm whitewashing what Hillary did, but for real, the biggest thing I got out of this scandal is just how bad/restrictive White House IT security is.

I feel like both of these things can be issues at the same time. Just like the provenance of her emails can be something to look into without diminishing concerns about the contents, and the same for Trump's tax returns.

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[–]buckybone 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

State Department IT, but apart from that...this is what happens when you contract it out to the lowest bidder.

[–]RenaldoTohee 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm acid washing my jeans emails as we speak.

[–]sophandros 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They use the same tactics over and over again.

Most people don't remember or know that the Lewinsky scandal came up as a result of Whitewater. What does a real estate deal in Arkansas have to do with an intern giving the President a blowjob? Well, after the Whitewater investigation found no wrongdoing by the Clintons, the Ken Starr went digging deeper with things he heard in Arkansas about Bill's infidelities. He found someone with an axe to grind, and ran with it. Another person convinced Lewinsky to come out with her story with the hopes that her story would establish a pattern of behavior and would be sufficient to nail the Clintons.

Keep in mind that extramarital affairs are not illegal, and that these things had absolutely nothing to do with the made up Whitewater controversy. The Republicans just recycle the same playbook over and over again, and the American public is stupid enough to fall for it over and over again.

[–]FizzleMateriel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They also blatantly ignore scandals under their own Presidents.

They keep trying for that "new Watergate" because all the previous big Presidential-level scandals were all fucking Republican.

Watergate. The pardoning of Nixon. Iran-Contra and the pardoning of the executive branch officials involved in that. The whole Iraq debacle and Plamegate. Walter Reed. There actually are so many from the Bush era it astounds me that none of them brought him down or caused a congressional hearing.

They had nothing on Carter because he was a decent man and clean as a fucking whistle.

Clinton was a philanderer and definitely shouldn't have lied about what he did but as you mentioned they were digging for dirt and wouldn't stop until they could find something they could throw at the wall and would stick.

Their best shot at Obama was Benghazi and it was clearly an opportunistic cheap shot. They tried to manufacture a conspiracy out of the administration originally thinking that the attack was spontaneous and caused by the Innocence of Muslims video, even though the CIA and David Petraeus came to that same conclusion. It wasn't a crime for the Obama administration to not know exactly what caused the attack in the immediate aftermath of it, these things take time and investigation, but Congressional Republicans tried to make it a crime anyway and tried to bring down Hillary with guilt by association.

Edit: Plamegate alone should have brought down Bush in the same way it's haunting Hillary.

[–]Tantric989 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

The 3 emails were from Huma Abedin on Huma's own email account (and has nothing to do with HRC's private server). Huma was one of the people closest to Hillary when she was secretary of state. That's the only relevance. They were discovered while investigating Anthony Weiner's dick pics he sent to an underage girl. Weiner is Huma Abedin's husband (I believe they are now seperated). The FBI had acquired Huma Abedin's laptop/phone, and to my understanding had found 3 work emails on Huma's personal internet email account.

Hopefully this triangle starts to make sense now. It doesn't have anything to do with Hillary except that they were conducting an entirely unrelated investigation on the husband of someone who once worked for Hillary.

Now you know why everyone is up in arms for Comey trying to say this is somehow about Hillary, and for Republican congress members who were briefed by Comey who suggested that Comey had reopened his investigation.

[–]njndirish 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I never thought I'd see the day where I respect Harry Reid. This election has made interesting bedfellows all around.

[–]RenaldoTohee 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been reading Jennifer Rubin's columns on the daily the last few months. Strange bedfellows indeed.

[–]brainiac3397 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wonder if Comey is enjoying watching his entire career coming down in a massive fire. He didn't just shoot himself in the foot, he tossed himself into an active volcano.

[–]EggCouncil 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

First of all, Dr. Zoidberg, do you even have a medical degree?

[–]meliosys 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

But Comey is a paid liberal shrill

[–]Qolx 31ポイント32ポイント  (9子コメント)

I disagree with Reid.

The FBI is sitting on it because there's actual real evidence of wrongdoing by Trump and they don't want to damage that case by releasing information. LEAs generally don't openly comment on ongoing investigations unless they have no other recourse. This is how I know the FBI has shit on Clinton: if they knew 100% they could recommend indictment against her they'd never said a word about it before they were ready.

[–]ILikeOtters7 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reid's point is Comey is treating Trump and Clinton differently. Where Comey says that Hillary's investigation requires a unusual amount of transparency which has given the Republicans ammunition to attack her with thus potentially influencing the election yet he's treating Trump's Russian case as a normal case by refusing to release any info about it thus protecting Trump from any damage it might do to his election chances. It makes the fbi look like its picking a side and interfering in this election.

[–]RedolentRedo 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump is caught on audio bragging he sexually assaults women. Let's not release it because 'they don't want to damage that case by releasing information." Unarmed black male is shown gunned by police can't release body cam tapes because "they don't want to damage that case by releasing information." Black male on video robbing/shooting the owner: "News At 11!" Here's da picture! [For the antiquated reference, google " Flip Wilson. "

[–]LearningLifeAsIGoLikes to ask too many questions 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that part about the Russian ties new info? I mean, we all wink, wink at it, but is this something different?

[–]Poop_is_Food 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

hmm. interesting dilemma. Is it better for the country for the FBI to damage their case if it means keeping Trump out of office?

[–]Qolx 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I prefer an FBI with integrity. They should stay out of politics.

[–]captmarx 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/ComeyForPrison

[–]neutron1 31ポイント32ポイント  (30子コメント)

I think democrats should take the high road and not try to destroy the FBI over this. Clean house if needed, but our institutions are already distrusted

[–]auandi 93ポイント94ポイント  (17子コメント)

Too late. The FBI Director is the one that disobeyed Justice Department guidelines and got himself and by extension his agency into a nakedly political fight.

[–]RetardedGigolo 2ポイント3ポイント  (16子コメント)

What guidelines?

[–]auandi 77ポイント78ポイント  (15子コメント)

The Justice department has guidelines about not releasing information to the public about an ongoing investigation. That's supposed to be standard operating procedure. They're supposed to save it for the courtroom and keep their head down. It ensures they don't taint the public in case it goes to trial and by never making comments they can't be accused of being biased because silence is the ultimate neutral stance.

There is also additional guidelines about really not releasing any information even tangentially linked to a candidate within 60 days of an election so that no one can accuse the FBI of being politically motivated.

There is also a third guideline for this exact situation where the Attorney General told him not to release this specific letter, saying it has the potential to lead to a misinformed view. He went against the suggestion of the Attorney General and released it anyway.

The dude has disobeyed multiple guidelines and a direct recommendation from the Attorney General.

[–]RetardedGigolo 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

I've heard about these too. I'm wondering about the specific language that's used. I read one article that said they weren't actually written, but more of an unwritten agreement. That could be problematic if anyone actually tried enforcing them.

[–]auandi 21ポイント22ポイント  (12子コメント)

The problem is, we want the FBI to be very independent. It means that no president or congress can put partisan pressure to make the FBI go after their political opponents. However, it also means that if the FBI goes rogue there's not many ways to reign them in. That's why the Attorney General couldn't stop the FBI even though she's technically in charge of all law enforcement in the US.

That's the tradeoff for insulating them. They can't be pressured to go wrong, but we can't pressure them to go right.

[–]RetardedGigolo -4ポイント-3ポイント  (11子コメント)

Are you suggesting the FBI has gone rogue? I have a hard time believing the FBI has somehow come under the control of Russia. This is as strange a conspiracy theory as anything on Infowars.

[–]auandi 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh god, I'm not suggesting that at all. "Going rogue" to me doesn't mean controlled by Russia, it just means not listening to the rest of the government and doing its own thing.

And considering the AG strongly suggested not to release this letter, he has (at least a little) gone rogue. The AG is supposed to be in charge of all criminal justice for the executive branch, but the FBI is not listening to the AG or following proper procedure. What would you call that?

[–]theotherkevin23 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

The Director of the FBI using their post as a political tool is as old as the FBI itself. There's not an allegation that Russia is controlling the FBI.

[–]SJHalflingRanger 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, but Comey has lost control over a faction of agents hellbent on investigating the Clintons (and perhaps all Democrats) despite superiors and the Justice Department discouraging them when they keep striking out.

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[–]ILikeOtters7 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

From the sound of it only Comey has gone rouge and the FBI is pissed with him right now.

[–]Lolagirlbee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

only Comey has gone rouge

Lol, seeing how Comey is possibly sitting on information regarding Donnie's ties to Russia this is an interesting malapropism.

Or was it purposeful? Either way, I agree with you.

[–]maxelrod 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't speak to that, but from what I gather they arise from the Hatch Act and more specifically the 1993 amendment to the Hatch Act.

[–]RedolentRedo 38ポイント39ポイント  (5子コメント)

So Democrats should sit back and allow Comey to place a Russian and Chinese hand puppet in the White House? Nice high road. Perhaps Comey should have done the same.

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[–]RedolentRedo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would imply someone has a financial finger up a Trump extremity. Probably not his wallet, since it is empty. Someone needs to pursue how this petty person pursued the City of Rancho Palos Verdes because they would not allow short fingers to erect a large staff.

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[–]SJHalflingRanger -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't worry. Once Trump gets elected the FBI produces what it knows, Trump gets impeached before inauguration, and we all welcome President Pence.

[–]wonderful_wonton 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Comey has to go. He's off the reservation and walking all over Loretta Lynch, who has lost control of her own agency. At this point, she has a title, but no power over subordinates who are ignoring her authority.

[–]mapppa 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

They need to make clear that the FBI has no business picking political sides and mistreating information. Because that is highly dangerous. So they should make an example if that in fact happened.

[–]ameoba 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Comey wishes he was Hoover.

[–]SJHalflingRanger 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

The FBI is already deeply compromised. Comey isn't source of the problem (probably), he's just failing to keep a lid on a cadre of agents attempting to use their positions for political action.

WSG: FBI in internal feud

There's a group of agents hellbent on investigating the Clintons, despite repeatedly finding nothing, and being told by the DoJ and FBI superiors to give it a rest and stop bothering them with their strikeouts. Comey has lost what little control he had, and almost certainly released his letter because the information would have been leaked to the press without him, making him look even more incompetent.

The FBI has known it has had these e-mails for over a month, and has been sitting on until ten days out from the election. It's entirely possible Comey himself only just found out about it (his letter is ambiguous). He's either using the FBI to play politics, or he's lost control over the agents doing so.

In either case, the institution is being used to wage partisan politics, and not very subtly.

[–]Saltysweetcake 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This story has the most truth to it, from what I've been reading...and something needs to be done by Obama. I don't care how controversial it is...fuck these guys.

[–]shakypearsthe shilliest shill in all shilldom 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If that's the case, those agents need to go.

[–]martensit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

is this a conspiracy?

[–]Saltysweetcake 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can Obama do anything about this? I bet he's beyond pissed off.

[–]Iyoten 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOCK HIM UP

[–]NoonecanknowMiner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking. Rigged.

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      [–]Mol-lurker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I think it's feasible the FBI may have something with Manafort and/or Page which ties to the Trump campaign. The FBI has been investigating Manafort for > 2 months.

      http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-20/fbi-said-to-probe-ukraine-corruption-with-possible-manafort-link

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      [–]Do_u_ev3n_lift -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Just like Romney didn't pay taxes for 10 years?

      Reid is a lying piece of shit. He admitted he made up the above claim last election cycle.

      [–]SavingStupid -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Im gonna come back here and laugh at yall after the investigation wraps up haha

      [–]Bernies_Lakehouse 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      No you won't because it will probably be a school day and you will still be in Algebra 1 at that time.

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        [–]randoliof 50ポイント51ポイント  (14子コメント)

        Surely you must also be upset that Trump's campaign has irrefutable ties to Russian political interests that are opposed to American interests.

        What's that? You're a massive hypocrite? Of course.

        [–]stereoblind -82ポイント-81ポイント  (13子コメント)

        Someday you will wake up and realize your entire life has been fed to you via propaganda. If you honestly believe that Trump has anything to do with Russia then you're exactly the kind of person Hillary loves to have influence over. The kind of person that can look the other way while she's killing people in the millions for personal gains.

        When you own the media, you get to decide what they say. Crazy, isn't it? The mainstream media donated to Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton used the mainstream media to demonize Trump to divert people's attention away from what's really going on; Hillary committing treason. Her crimes are so enormous that this will be the single biggest event in American history when all of you find out what she's really been doing all this time. I can't wait to see how you people react when she's in an orange jumpsuit on her way to prison for treason at the highest level.

        [–]DataLythe 50ポイント51ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Someday you will wake up and realize your entire life has been fed to you via propaganda

        /r/im14andthisispolitics

        [–]TreezusSaves 44ポイント45ポイント  (0子コメント)

        You're a massive hypocrite? Of course.

        [Two paragraphs of hypocrisy.]

        Sometimes I wish I was as closed off from reality as Trumpettes are. It must be so easy living your life like that, free from nuance or independent thought. It's hard being a serious person sometimes, but that's life for ya.

        [–]CSULBPaintsniffer 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

        It's always interesting to see Trumpeters venture out of their safespace to get shit on in places that don't instantly ban dissenters.

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        [–]wonderful_wonton 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Dude, you think you're red-pilled but the truth is you licked the purple microdot.

        Crazy, isn't it?

        Yes. yes it is. Go to bed and get some sleep.

        [–]RedolentRedo 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Oh, and the tax returns . No American banks will lend to Trump, so he borrows from the Russians. If Trump is so pristine-- Where are his tax returns? For that matter, where is a letter from the IRS even stating Trump is being audited?

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        [–]randoliof 64ポイント65ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Ah, you're right.

        The Trump campaign officials that resigned due to their connections to the Kremlin were all a figment of my imagination.

        Thanks for correcting the record there, friendo

        [–]CSULBPaintsniffer 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

        lmao

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        [–]surprisinglychill 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

        So butthurt

        [–]Owyheemud 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Someday you'll die of Krokodil-induced organ failure in a grimy Moscow alley.

        Crazy, isn't it?

        [–]milklust 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        uh, his current wife is a barely naturalized Russian emmigree whom admitted that she has known Putin fr 20 years when she was a Russian porn star and was Director of the KGB. all these are KNOWN and PROVEN facts but please feel free to IGNORE them... Heil Trump

        [–]z1967VOTE: https://g.co/kgs/zr3iTl 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Lmao, you mean that bullshit account that took Tim Staples profile picture?

        Tim Staples

        Fucking hell, I'm gonna start selling "info" behind a paywall to wingnuts because you guys do zero research.

        EDIT: Here's an archive in case they delete this out of shame. Seems that trolls like to do that recently.

        EDIT2: the twitter account in question changed its icon and bio. Caught with your pants down Hector!

        [–]Potrumpkin_Villager 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

        staged Arab spring uprising

        Yeah, totally unrelated to an authoritarian, minority-dominated government dealing with plunging revenues and foodstuffs.

        Try reading some articles instead of tweets from an unverified conspiracy theorist account.

        [–]WatashiWaWatashi 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

        If this guy is legit then why is using someone else's photo?

        [–]CoccyxCracker -39ポイント-38ポイント  (9子コメント)

        I guess even liberals aren't immune to insane conspiracy theories.

        [–]LordBlackmoreThe AntiTrumptron 44ポイント45ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Trump has financial ties to Russia. That doesn't mean he's in bed with Putin, but without tax returns, nobody knows how deep his investments are.

        [–]RedolentRedo 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Your observations are correct. It may not mean he is "bed" with Russia. BUT-- If one brags one is a billionaire, and a currently hostile nation has your nads in a vise, shouldn't the American public be advised of such information [via tax returns or FBI disclosures] before a potential president with blackmail hanging over his/her head is elected? I suggest Comey is a traitor if such information were not to be released.

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        [–]DiscoConspiracy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It's a matter whether or not we want to be a satellite of Russia now or later, really.

        [–]GrabEmByThePalossand 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Reid said that Comey in particular was a person he corresponded with that provided Reid with this info. I'm waiting on Comey's response, and there are a couple ways it could go down:

        1) Comey denies this correspondence. Reid provides no evidence in his favor.

        2) Comey says nothing.

        2a) Reid does nothing

        2b) Reid provided evidence is his claimed correspondence

        3) Comey denies this correspondence. Reid provides evidence it happened.

        Reid is not a dumb man and he would not threaten the Democratic Party at such an important junction. He has something here.

        [–]maxelrod 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Can you still call it a conspiracy theory when Trump has had his foreign policy adviser and one of his campaign managers resign when their ties with Russia were discovered?

        No, no you can't. That's just what we call a "theory."

        [–]Poop_is_Food 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well Harry Reid is a couple notches above Alex Jones in the credibility department.

        [–]little87 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The only person to blame for this is Hillary Clinton lol how can you people not see that. None of this would have happened had she not sent classified emails...she would win in a landslide. Stop passing the blame off, it's cowardly. She will have to own up soon enough for what would put anyone of us average citizens in prison.

        [–]trecht -9ポイント-8ポイント  (16子コメント)

        Ties to Russia are not illegal..? Nothing will happen either way. There is proof that Hillary has broken the laws many times too, and nothing happens. The country is corrupt either way.

        Feel free to prove me wrong instead of downvoting me, if I'm wrong. Otherwise I'll just attribute the downvotes to not sticking to the narrative here.

        [–]butjustlikewhy 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

        There is proof that Hillary has broken the laws many times

        Except that there isn't.

        Feel free to prove me wrong instead of downvoting me

        Ditto.

        [–]trecht -5ポイント-4ポイント  (10子コメント)

        For starters; having their work e-mail come in on a private server which thus hosted classified files. That breaks 3 federal laws alone. Want me to continue?

        [–]butjustlikewhy 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

        Sure. Which three federal laws?

        [–]trecht -2ポイント-1ポイント  (8子コメント)

        Here. And this doesn't even begin to cover her own personal liabilities in knowingly (that's the big one) mishandeling classified files or tampering with evidence because she purposefully changed contents of e-mails before giving them to the FBI.

        I mean, not that it matters, she is the system so she will never let herself get prosecuted.

        PROVE ME WRONG DOWNVOTERS

        [–]bustedmagnets 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

        I like that in the article you linked, the title is "3 federal laws Hillary MAY have violated."

        Didn't you say there was proof she had broken the law?

        [–]trecht -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Her mishandeling classified information on her private e-mail server is not proof that she broke laws?

        [–]bustedmagnets 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

        I'd ask you to show me which law she broke, but you'd just link to the same article that says pretty clearly she "may" have violated them.

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          [–]verystinkyfingers 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Prove she did it, comrade.

          [–]trecht -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Prove she handled classified documents on her private e-mail servers? Have you been living under a rock?

          [–]verystinkyfingers 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Yes I have. The fbi found nothing criminal, so ostensibly you can do a better job of investigating than they did?

          [–]NoonecanknowMiner 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Yeah, because having the President tied to someone who kills their own people is great.

          [–]trecht 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I agree with you, that's a recipe for disaster. Hence why having ties to to Saudi Arabia is just as bad IMO. They even donated to her more here: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jul/07/fact-checking-donations-clinton-foundation/ So far I haven't seen direct proof that Trump has ties with Russia, only heard him say that Putin is a good guy. Do you have proof for this? All I know about is that the FBI allegedly has files, but they aren't public.

          [–]Bernies_Lakehouse 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Um. Putin is not a good guy. Even if that is all he has said or done with Russia, that is a major red flag for a lack of knowledge about foreign policy.

          [–]trecht 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Neither is Saudi Arabia.