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QuiVR's "Heart Sank" over a woman claimed being sexually assaulted in VR. (self.Vive)

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The developers at QuiVR pussied out and created and actually were affected by a femenist who got "sexually assaulted in game". Fuck them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfdDSJldLgE

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[–]jolard 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why is she a "feminist" if she objects to being assaulted in Virtual Reality? She could be the most anti-feminist woman in the world and still be upset if she is assaulted like that.

Sorry Commando, these kinds of actions are necessary because of the boys who insist on being assholes in VR spaces. If there weren't boys doing these things, there wouldn't be women who are upset with what is happening. You can't blame the victim here.

Personally I have see enough inappropriate actions in Rec Room, I am sad to see them happening in QuiVR as well, so I am glad QuiVR have done something about it.

And for the record, I am not anti sexual activity in VR. I hope there will be places for all sorts of fun. But people who are just trying to play a game don't deserve to be assaulted without consent.

[–]DarkVamprism 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sorry Commando, you'll have to find a different game to harass people :)

[–]delta_forge2 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

QuiVR were right to be concerned and to act quickly. If women and young people don't feel comfortable using VR because of immature behavior by some then all VR users will be worse off. If VR doesn't attract a large number of users then none of us will be getting those triple AAA games and content we'd all like to see.

[–]Chilled-Flame 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Im a guy and it does cause a unsettling reaction the first time some silent person enters the lobby and vive wands your sack

just saying

[–]daedalus311 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"vive wands your sack"

Thanks for the chuckle.

[–]Route0 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You seem really level headed. But really, what's wrong with them implementing something so if other people feel uncomfortable they don't have to?

[–]SimplicityCompass 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Useful first post on r/vive, congrats.

Post again once you've finished puberty.

[–]mdnpascual 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the lowest score I've seen in reddit. 3% upvoted

[–]ksVPN13Vive & GTX1070 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Q-VR

You have where your arrows stick into.

Forgot the damn name of it.

Hahah. Best part of this video.

[–]Ducksdoctor 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sexually assaulted isn't the actual term I would use. I think she was sexually harassed, in the same way that unwelcome, sexually perverse comments would be viewed by the recipient. Under state or federal law this isn't illegal (through this technological venue specifically). Mark my words though the law will catch up with the technology, this sort of behavior should be stopped now by the trolls and creeps, or later on down the line they'll find themselves in handcuffs. (Source studying to become a leo in the US)

The virtual reality industry is going to rapidly improve and by the time the law catches up we will probably be able to touch eachother and feel it. Once this happens the law will swoop in and start setting standards, it will inevitably become a prosecutable offense.

[–]ShapesAndStuff 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea I also think she had every right to complain. Sure, the whole thing was blown up by media, but I definitely understand.

Lots of guys are posting comments like "yea well i was shot in the face / facialed with confetti etc" and while its similar in nature, there still is a difference.

They did whatever "nasty" gesture picking you at random from a pool of people, not caring who they hit just trying to be funny or troll whatever. The guy in QUIVR heard her voice, understood that shes a female player and started trolling / harassing her specifically until she gave up and disconnected. It wasn't random, it wasn't chance, it was targeted harassment.

I (as a guy) was trolled by someone in Bad Company 2 back in the day, getting teamkilled and insulted over and over and over again because of my nationality. Its not like thats super dramatic, but there is just nothing you can do to stop it, and you know they picked you and wont stop until you leave. I imagine its a lot worse when immersed in VR and actually having them "physically" interact with you.

[–]rusty_dragonPhenom II 965, R9 290X -4ポイント-3ポイント  (18子コメント)

Before those "harrasment" threads I never thought that there is big SJW agenda on /r/Vive.

Always get adored how people hever got harassed or bullied in their life discussing it. You know nothing what real harassment is about.

[–]thestrangestick 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

The woman in question has been sexually assaulted twice.

[–]rusty_dragonPhenom II 965, R9 290X -3ポイント-2ポイント  (12子コメント)

How you can sexually assault someone in a game? Do you understand what a non-sense you saying?

[–]thestrangestick 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

She states in the article that she has been sexually assaulted in real life. How is this difficult for you to understand?

[–]rusty_dragonPhenom II 965, R9 290X -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

And what relation this has to video game, I wonder?

Is it developer, who assaulted her IRL? And if she were assaulted IRL how she can compare it to video game, where you just can say fuck you idiot and quit game?

Or maybe she have stalking paranoia and now accusing everyone in sexual harassment?

[–]thestrangestick 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

The relation is that someone who has experienced real sexual assault is going to relive a lot of trauma if someone harasses them online, even though it is 'just online'.

All the developer needs to do is add a simple tool to mute players and make their gestures invisible, or something equally as effective. We expected muting tools on all games before VR gaming was a thing, because people can be obnoxious in chat and as gaming is supposed to be fun, you should be able to prevent others from ruining that fun. This is no different.

What good reason do you have to not believe this woman's story, aside from the glaringly obvious one?

[–]ShutUpTurkey 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The only people who could be angry about developers taking these relatively benign (benign, if you're not a person who goes around harassing people in games) actions against harassment in VR are the people who get off on doing these types of things. These few here are obvious, they're the ones complaining about it.

[–]thestrangestick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. OP has also claimed in another thread that the woman is probably lying about this event and also having been sexually assaulted twice IRL, so that tells you everything you need to know about him.

[–]rusty_dragonPhenom II 965, R9 290X -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

Developer should not do such things. There are warning for usage of VR devices. And if you have psychical disorders of some kind you should not use VR headset in first place. Psychical disorders should be treated, not forcing world around to babysitting you.

The good reason I don't believe this woman story because there as already similar article about AltSpace on medium or mic. The making money from it.

[–]thestrangestick 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Do you also not like voice mute functions in games?

There is no difference here. It doesn't affect gameplay or score, it just stops someone else being a dick to you. How could you possible take issue with that?

[–]rusty_dragonPhenom II 965, R9 290X -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

There is difference. If it didn't had sexual harassment context, but for example trolls/hackers spammed hands on you in the game this will be understandable solution of game abuse.

In case of SJW agenda, devs made those claims legit and then promote their game from it. It's bad for industry - we'll see more of such once SJW bullies succeeded. Noone reacted when they made similar article about AltSpace, where unlike QuiVR there is ability to do something and sex jokes are popular, because it's fun, nothing serious. It's just adults party after hard day and relaxing with stupid jokes.

[–]thestrangestick 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, and the difference there is that altspace is designed to simulate real life interactions and is based around that. QuiVR is a bowman game. Again, you really aren't very bright. You're making arguments at a young teenage level.

The fact you genuinely believe this was a manufactured story to sell games is hilarious, especially consideringmost gamers are male, and a huge portion of gamers are 'anti-SJW' and have already been triggered and outraged by this story.

[–]ShutUpTurkey 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So you think this exact same fix is only valid if in the context where it directly affects you, someone interrupting your gameplay. Sexual harassment doesn't qualify in your stupid idiot mindset because it can't affect you in the same way it might affect someone who has been a victim.

"Just partying bro! Hard day of work, just a little sexual harassment to unwind bro! JK lelz"

[–]ShutUpTurkey 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one is forcing anyone to babysit. These developers implement these functions of their own free will, and they do not impact you at all unless you like harassing people. If you don't like it, don't play the game.

[–]shadowofashadowMarch 30th order, Vive has arrived 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

The whole point of VR is to be engrossing and realistic, tricking your brain into thinking its really experiencing something. This is why we like VR so much.

To turn around and say that this kind of thing can't have an affect on someone through VR is to deny everything that makes VR great.

I doubt you'd think it was weird if a soldier had their PTSD triggered by Onward. Why is this any different?

[–]rusty_dragonPhenom II 965, R9 290X -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

How it can have relation when VR is absolutely controllable environment?

When someone saying you BS in anonim text or voice chat you also treat it as sexual harassment?

VR counter-wise give us ability to treat such disorders by putting persons in controlled environments and allow them to solve it and lift their phychology blocks.

[–]shadowofashadowMarch 30th order, Vive has arrived 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, sending someone threatening texts can be considered harassment.

And I agree with you that it's not nearly on the same level as actual, physical harassment. I'm just making the point that the whole point of VR is to create very realistic representations of things we experience in life. If someone is really upset by this kind of thing in real life it makes sense that they would be upset by it in VR.

And yeah, they can choose to take off the headset. Devs can also choose to make things like personal spaces. It's really not something to get upset about either way.

[–]rusty_dragonPhenom II 965, R9 290X -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You absolutely anonim in video game until someone will find you with your nickname, found links with it and your real name and start threatening you. But that's not the case, and even in this scenario it has no relation to video game.

Devs made bad job for the industry, because they react on this and legitimate this "problem", promote their game with it.

You can to some degree say that there is sexual jokes in AltSpace, but QuiVr doesn't even has human body parts or sex form objects in it.