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HelpRequest - Technical Questions for the more experienced than I (self.skyrimmods)

Greedeater が 投稿

G'day g'day, thanks for reading.

Predominately I've been a console gamer most of me life until I could actually afford something that runs games. When that occurred and I got me an Alienware i7 Alpha cheap as chips, I went to town with games I've missed. I'd played Skyrim on the Ps3, but kinda got bored with it and never actually finished it. Got close, but just didn't have incentive and/or time to invest in it, y'know?

Now I do and am very enthusiastic after reading of the mod possibilities, thanks to a random stumble over MxRModding's mod reviews.

Bought meself the legendary edition through OzGameshop - because fuck Australia Tax - downloaded off Steam and started exploring mod options. Now I haven't modded stuff since the .Wad days of olden Doom, so I rolled a Nat 20 and came across here when I typed it in.

Thanks to /u/TerrorFox1234's amazingly comprehensive guide - seriously mate, nice work with that - to setting me shit up for mods I am now good to go! And herein lies a few questions. Relatively simple ones, and not mod recommendations: with the exception of FrostFall, I'm exploring on me own on that side of things after scouring through this sub tonight. These are mostly Tech limit and MO Q's.

*Although if you got favourite mods, lemme know. Bookmarked heaps earlier thanks to this thread, that'll keep me occupied with RTFM.

Questions

  • Before I followed /u/TerrorFox1234's guide, I did grab a few mods through Steam Workshop (SkyUI and Two-handed Parry). Found the guide, completed its required setup and went back to Steam and Unsubscribed to both those Mods as SkyUI was doubled up in MO. Yet it's still in the load order (the one on the left pane in MO is load order, right?) and I can't get rid of it OR the Two-handed mod. What do I do?

  • The link up there shows my PC specs: what do you reckon - even an educated guess - is upper tier limit of Mods I should have runnin at once? Or should I just load one by one and monitor performance/time the CTD's?

  • Is there a place that showcases user recommended groups of Mods for gameplay variations - like one for balls out action, one for realism etc - preferably with Load Orders listing til I get me head around it?

  • Edit: Another one I just remembered: my Skyrim.esm disappeared at some point when loading up FrostFall and Vivid Weather, so I done a File Integrity check to get it back, which it did: but also returned the DLC .esm's as well, effectively doubling them up in my left pane. Going by the guide, should I delete the 'Clean' ones from the TES5Edit section of the guide and repeat the process for new ones?

Thanks for reading and any n all assistance, cheers!

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[–]Hopefull_Loser 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the Workshop issue must be files remaining in Data directory. By design, Mod Organizer doesn't touch the Data directory so it's probably showing "Non-MO". If you find any, you should delete extra files from your Data folder.

There should be 3 folders in Data - Interface, Strings, Video. If there are other folders, get rid of them.

Other than that, there should be 24 files of the .bsa .esm and .esp variety.

  • Dawnguard.bsa
  • Dawnguard.esm
  • Dragonborn.bsa
  • Dragonborn.esm
  • HearthFires.bsa
  • HearthFires.esm
  • HighResTexturePack01.bsa
  • HighResTexturePack01.esp
  • HighResTexturePack02.bsa
  • HighResTexturePack02.esp
  • HighResTexturePack03.bsa
  • HighResTexturePack03.esp
  • Skyrim - Animations.bsa
  • Skyrim - Interface.bsa
  • Skyrim - Meshes.bsa
  • Skyrim - Misc.bsa
  • Skyrim - Shaders.bsa
  • Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
  • Skyrim - Textures.bsa
  • Skyrim - Voices.bsa
  • Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa
  • Skyrim.esm
  • Update.bsa
  • Update.esm

And just in case, after you're thru with deleting things, from Steam do a file integrity verification check from Right click on game-->Properties-->Local Files. If you deleted any crucial files by accident, this will fix it.

[–]Greedeater[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Beautiful, they were non-MO - just remembered that part, bit tipsy at the mo - so I'll investigate this further when I'm home from the pub. Cheers for the info!

Yep that sorted it, cheers mate!

[–]angrmgmt00 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Hey, welcome! This is an awesome post, and deserves way more attention than I'm about to give it before I get ready for class, so well done on that. Quick and dirty:

  • Left side is the contents of every folder in '<path>\Mod Organizer\mods', it's referred to as "mod priority" or "install order"; Load Order is the list on the right, and details all the mod plugins/masters loaded at runtime
  • Number of mods won't be as important as which types; your GPU's GDDR access is limited to 2k, so using 2k textures is probably wise, and the more script/visual mods you use, the more the system will be taxed. OTOH if you install a couple hundred texture replacers (at reasonable sizes), you probably won't see as much of a performance issue (no claims made about compatibility). Make sense?
  • STEP is a pretty serious overhaul (though certainly not the biggest) and has Packs that do exactly what you're talking about.

You'll get more and better responses from the great community here, but in the meantime, happy modding!

[–]Greedeater[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

  • Left side is the contents of every folder in '<path>\Mod Organizer\mods', it's referred to as "mod priority" or "install order"; Load Order is the list on the right, and details all the mod plugins/masters loaded at runtime.

Ah, that clears that up, TYVM!

  • Number of mods won't be as important as which types; your GPU's GDDR access is limited to 2k, so using 2k textures is probably wise, and the more script/visual mods you use, the more the system will be taxed. OTOH if you install a couple hundred texture replacers (at reasonable sizes), you probably won't see as much of a performance issue (no claims made about compatibility). Make sense?

It does, thank you. How did you know it's limited to 2k by the way? I haven't taxed me mind over specs and Tech since AGP cards were still used for graphics cards :)

  • STEP is a pretty serious overhaul (though certainly not the biggest) and has Packs that do exactly what you're talking about.

Mate, spot on; JUST what I'm lookin for, cheers!

[–]angrmgmt00 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

The article you linked gives the model of your adapter, from which the memory can be obtained! :D I can't believe my little response was enough for ya, glad to help!

[–]Greedeater[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Cheers mate! Now I use gotta wrangle this bloody Vivid Weather mod. Is it normal to raise conflicts with USLEEP? Got about 60 of em.

[–]angrmgmt00 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

A mod conflicting with USLEEP is similar to a mod "conflicting" with update.esm or something. In my list, I have nearly 3500 USLEEP files with such "conflicts", and I'm A-OK with that because USLEEP is part of what I consider the "core game" and for me to have a modified experience, I've got to change the core. That's the whole point of modding! Obviously there are mods that revert USLEEP changes to ITM (because they didn't bother to check it), but VW is not such a mod. Hope that helps.

[–]Greedeater[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you put it that way, clear as rain mate. Thanks again!

[–]DabbelJ 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

The others made a good point in answering your first question so i'll try add to the last one. Brodual recently made a vid on a basic but very nice looking (improved vanilla) graphics setup, Hodilton has really cool ENB show offs and dirtyweasel has a very long in depth 2016 modding guide Also Zaric Zhakaron usually goes through his list before starting a let's play.

[–]Greedeater[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

Noice noice, Youtubers I presume mate?

[–]DabbelJ 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ah of course, sorry i wrote on the train from work while being a little distracted ;) yes they are and they are good - try also a guy named gopher, he hasn't done anything skyrim related in a while but his old mod spotlights are great and that silky smooth voice is a blast.

[–]Greedeater[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Rabidly consumed all I could watch mate, cheers for the recommendations!

On the subject of ENB's though; following the setup guide in here and a follow up viewing of Slothability's vid, I still can't seem to get depth of field working. The actual ENB I loaded up (optional one from Vivid Weathers) works fine, and checking in the MCM all the options are green with the exception of the depth of field, which reads as true, but is white. Is there a place you can recommend further where I can troubleshoot it?

[–]DabbelJ 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

ENBs do not have MCM menus - the enb dof is enabled via the enbseries.ini (set depth of field to true) or via enb ingame menu (this differs from enb to enb, some enbs have the shortcut for their enb menu on shift+enter or shift+z).

[–]Greedeater[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sorry mate, I'll clarify; the Vivid Weathers MCM shows green about the ini adjustments, and I have quadruple checked I've adjusted the appropriate lines yet still no DoF.

I'll have another look shortly.

[–]DabbelJ 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is the ingame dof, which is barely noticable. Enb adds its own dof as it adds more complicated post processing effects than skyrim's engine should be able to do. If you have enb and want dof you should enable the enb one as it looks better. If you want to make skyrim's ingame dof more noticable you need to install a mod called dynavision to tweak it. Ingame dof is of course less performance intensive than enb dof.

[–]Greedeater[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ahhhh Righto, that mebbe where I'm stuffing up. Cheers for the pointers mate!

[–]DabbelJ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you see an enb where you like the dof, but not the rest you can also take its enbeffectprepass.fx file out of the enbseries folder and replace yours with it.

[–]Hopefull_Loser 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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