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Eric Trump tours Yuengling brewery. Yuengling owner to Eric Trump: "Our guys are behind your father. We need him in there." (readingeagle.com)

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[–]316nuts 303ポイント304ポイント  (27子コメント)

This thread should be entertaining

[–]DiscipleofGrohl 197ポイント198ポイント  (8子コメント)

Let's grab a pint and wait for it to all blow over.

[–]OldTomFrost 34ポイント35ポイント  (6子コメント)

Or boil over, if you're in to beer things.

[–]ecp30 19ポイント20ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm not.

[–]OldTomFrost 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, a "boil over" in brewing terms is when you leave the boil pot unattended resulting in a...ah...boil over. The end result is big fucking mess.

[–]PowderedWigMachine 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]Eurynom0s 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

A yuge mess, you might say.

[–]PhilR8 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except you replied to a Shaun of the Dead quote

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    [–]neocommenter 98ポイント99ポイント  (3子コメント)

    This was like the one subreddit where I didn't have to see election bullshit, thanks OP.

    [–]likeafox 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

    This is it. This is what finally breaks me.

    [–]cadencehz 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    But you know, there's no turning back now
    This is what makes me - this is what I am.

    [–]genderchangers 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone given other things Dick has said and done.

    [–]OptimalDelusion 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    In hindsight, I think I made a mistake looking over all the comments.

    [–]MrDonamus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This popcorn is good.

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      [–]alittamnayr 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Honestly, who cares? This is America and everyone is entitled to an opinion here. I am not going to stop drinking his beer just because he has a political opinion I don't agree with. Half of my extended family are all Trump supporters, that doesn't mean I just shunned them from the family, its just politics. Lol

      [–]comfortablybum 444ポイント445ポイント  (263子コメント)

      If you have seen Pottsville you will understand why. It looks like the 1970s died and were embalmed there. He also probably had to buy health insurance for his employees after Obamacare. No big surprise here. This is one of those "what do you think he thought?" moments.

      I have no problem drinking beer from or with people I have political disagreements with. In fact I think we all need to do that more.

      [–]justicebiever 59ポイント60ポイント  (11子コメント)

      We may all disagree on politics. But thank god we can all agree on religion.

      [–]MountSwolympus 273ポイント274ポイント  (41子コメント)

      I won't buy his beer because I live in the state that he actively has campaigned "right-to-work" laws. He wants those laws in place not for any reason other than his own personal finances as the owner of Yuengling. Thus, I would be literally be giving money to someone who would use it to negatively impact the working class in my state. Fuck him.

      [–]ThatGuyYouKnow 72ポイント73ポイント  (10子コメント)

      I won't buy his beer because they don't distribute here

      [–]subfrowns 75ポイント76ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I won't buy his beer because it's actually bad

      [–]Goatey 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      For the price it's not bad. Politics aside I do like supporting a 100% American owned brewery and it's a great beer to have a few cases on hand for weekends at the lake.

      [–]Emperor-Octavian 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Bruh. Yueng is king

      [–]Eurynom0s 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Edgy and brave.

      /s

      [–]TheBurningBeard 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I don't buy it because it's not very good. Also they don't distribute here.

      [–]tedwick 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The core of my Chick-fil-A boycott in college.

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        [–]LawnJawn 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Plus Yards is better and is in the same price bracket.

        [–]BaunerMcPounder 28ポイント29ポイント  (8子コメント)

        "Right to fire you for no fucking reason at all because I may have a petty issue with you personally or you are too tenured and get paid more than I want to pay any of my employees"

        [–]HodorTheDoorHolder 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Right to Work laws are not the same as At-Will Employment laws. I think you are confusing the two.

        [–]Droolproofpapercut -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

        I've supervised several thousand people in a very long career, in Right to Work states. I've never come across an issue of firing just for petty issues, personality conflict, etc. I've worked with unions and usually was supported when I terminated folks. It doesn't mean you just get to behave like a firing squad. Nonetheless, I was surprised at Yuengling's comments. I can't buy his beer in Texas but enjoy it when I'm in Philly for work.

        [–]HodorTheDoorHolder 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I've never come across an issue of firing just for petty issues, personality conflict, etc.

        It's also because Right to Work laws really don't have anything to do with firing. At-Will Employment is what people are confusing it with. Unless they are saying that workers are only safe under unions (Right to Work laws), which in that case the Right to Work law is in place to allow non-union workers the ability to work without forcibly paying union dues.

        [–]STiLL_bOoZiN 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Just because you didn't personally see the need for laws protecting workers doesn't mean we should do without them.

        [–]raelrok 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

        This is precisely it. "I've never seen anyone take advantage of laws that allow ample room for abuse without repercussions" doesn't really excuse the sorts of loopholes that Right to Work laws potentially allow. Granted, I've moved to the Netherlands from Kentucky, so might have a slightly skewed perspective regarding work laws.

        [–]Droolproofpapercut 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Agreed.

        [–]HonorAmongSteves 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        What you call protecting workers others call violating freedom of association and contract. There are some places where you have no choice about whether to join a union and pays dues or not, if you get unlucky with your chosen line of work. He's not asking to eliminate unions but to let people have the option of whether to join or not.

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          [–]meta_mash 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Man, as a PA native I didn't think I'd ever see someone straight up say they won't buy Yuengling. It's just everywhere. Everyone drinks it.

          I've never heard anything about what you said though. Anyone have a source for more info?

          [–]MountSwolympus 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I'm not the only one, there's a boycott Yuengling group on Facebook.

          Some of these sources are biased:

          [–]TheHighestEagle 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          boycott Yuengling

          Yeah have fun with that.

          Going out to buy 10 cases now.

          MAGA

          [–]op00to 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I haven't had to drink a Yuengling in years, and I live in a core Yuengling market. Even shitty bars and restaurants have something better now.

          [–]JSpark22[🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Same here. There's a reason why it's every bar's $2 happy hour beer.

          [–]op00to 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I thought it was dirt cheap because the brewery and distributor collude to depress the price of Yuengling beers to make local brews seem that much more expensive to price-concious consumers, driving the little guys out of the market.

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            [–]tuowl74 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Agreed. Well put.

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              [–]chaogomu 44ポイント45ポイント  (24子コメント)

              I dislike the flagship beer, but the Oktoberfest was a very nice marzen.

              I propose that we all sit and have a beer and think about how to fix the broken system, rather than arguing about the symptoms of the break (Clinton and Trump).

              [–]Malkav1379 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

              If you don't like their Lager, see if you can get some of their Lord Chesterfield Ale. As someone who lives in the middle of Yuengling territory and grew up drinking Lager, I have to say that I enjoy LC much better. It tastes good, and unlike the Lager doesn't feel like you're drinking a glass of bread.

              [–]op00to 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Lord Chesterfield tastes like if someone mixed ox piss with toluene, dry hopped it with a bunch of rotting cat carcasses, and then left it in the sun for a week or so to skunk.

              [–]chaogomu 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

              I'm in the midst of drinking at least 1 of every beer I can find so I'll look for it.

              My findings so far, IPAs and the supper hop trend need to go away. I especially hate the ones that dry hop with 5 pounds of cascade hops per gallon. I want to taste the complexity that is beer, not a shot of super pine resin.

              Rant aside, the few Yuengling beers that I've had have had very well balanced hop profiles, I didn't like the lager or the light lager mostly because I dislike the pale lager style, I'd still drink one if offered, but I'd likely not buy again. The Oktoberfest on the other hand was great, it was exactly what a traditional marzen should be.

              The next argument is then about how the marzen is no longer the standard Oktoberfest beer, but that's actually a fairly recent change made by the Munich breweries.

              [–]DietrichsMeats 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I'm from Pottsville, and I could never get into Chesty. All my friends love it, but I like their Premium and Black & Tan.

              [–]JamesTBagg 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Symptoms of the break.

              I feel this is a very good way to describe those two. Short and sweet.

              [–]sxeQ 8ポイント9ポイント  (12子コメント)

              We had a potential start to fixing the break, but he didn't make it through primaries.

              [–]chaogomu 15ポイント16ポイント  (11子コメント)

              Having a single good candidate is not a fix to the broken system.

              The two party setup along with it's primaries is the broken system.

              The only way to fix that is a fix to the way we vote, which means constitutional amendments, like fixing districts to prevent gerrymandering and some form of preferential vote, as in you rank all the candidates on a scale of 0-10. the person with the highest combined score is the winner, even if no one person rated them the highest.

              the simple example is an election with Alice, Bob, and Charlie

              50% of voters rank Alice a 10 and Bob 0.

              50% rank Bob a 10 and Alice 0.

              75% of voters also rated Charlie as either 7 or 8.

              Charlie wins and more people are happy than if Alice or Bob had gotten 51% of the normal vote.

              [–]sxeQ 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Oh I fully agree, it wouldn't have been a fix but simply a start. The issue is, the people who are legally able to change congressional term limits and gerrymandering are the ones who benefit from it.

              [–]chaogomu 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              sort of, some states allow ballot initiative for constitutional amendments. some even have constitutional conventions automatically appear as an option on the ballot every x years.

              Other states are harder, but there are processes to go through.

              The main issue isn't the corrupt politicians fighting you, it's the companies and interest groups who benefit from having their guy in office long term.

              I'm also not against someone serving unlimited terms, I just want them to have to fight for their seat fairly.

              [–]dHUMANb 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

              A grading scale would never work because it requires every single person to buy into it. It would devolve into 10s and 0s the moment people start abusing those radical numbers. Just look at online reviews. The tribal idiots would never accept anything but their guy and vote 10 and 0 from the start, and the objective people would just be hurting themselves by legitimately grading people because it would sharply increase the likelihood of allowing 3s or 4s into office because they'd add into the 10 votes from the tribes, until they become bitter and vote 10s and 0s too.

              [–]proud_to_be_a_merkin 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

              See: Black Mirror Season 3.

              [–]dHUMANb 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

              Black Mirror is on my queue but I have not yet watched it. Are you talking about the online reviews for it?

              [–]proud_to_be_a_merkin 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

              No. The first episode of the new season is actually pretty close to what was being described here. I think they do a pretty good job showing one possible outcome.

              Though the entire show is absolutely excellent and highly recommended. Just don't judge it by the first episode of season 1 because it is waaaaay different than the rest of the series (though not a bad episode by any means. Just very different and possibly off-putting to some and not indicative of the series as a whole which is, again, incredible).

              [–]dHUMANb 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Ah i see! Yeah I very much plan to watch it. It already intrigued me from the little blurb so I added it to my queue blind, I only just found out later that it was also popular and highly recommended, which is usually a great sign.

              [–]proud_to_be_a_merkin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Just try to savor it when you do, it's very short. I've seen people saying it's difficult to binge due to the heaviness of some of the subject matter, but I was hooked and it ended far too soon. I need more :(

              [–]chaogomu 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

              The thing is. Rating everyone 10s and 0s doesn't break that system as long as you rate everyone.

              In my above example if everyone rated Charlie at 10 instead of 7 or 8 then he's the clear winner. If everyone rates Charlie 0 and even one Alice supporter rates Bob as a 1 then Bob wins and 50% of the population is unhappy.

              Think of it this way. In the primary you had Trump, Paul, Ryan, etc. Most Republicans had their favorite and their backup. The problem is that the backup left the race because of a complete lack of support. It all went to the favorite. If three people liked the same backup but had different favorites then we have a problem when the most universally liked candidate drops out.

              Another way to look at it is that you are only hurting yourself if you are not honest when ranking candidates.

              As to confusion, people use rating systems every day, from movies to food to hotels and dentists. You rate them on some number or star based scale every day. Olympic athletes are rated on 10 point scales and the one with the highest total wins. It's not hard.

              [–]dHUMANb 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Your first example, where Charlie wins due to only a minority of one person grading properly, it discourages that person from ever voting outside of 0 and 10 again because he was partially responsible for voting in a candidate he himself despises. Even when people vote for who they hate least like in this election, their vote goes directly to that ideal scenario. In your grading scale, it punishes those who grade poorly but not quite as poorly as 0. And that results in an eventual shift towards 0 and 10, which would make the entire scale useless anyways because then you might as well have just Yes and No.

              Having backups/alternate votes is a separate voting structure entirely, and could in fact work out because again, any vote you cast is towards a candidate for better or worse you choose rather than punishing you for voting in a candidate you pretty much hate but not all the way hate. It makes the act of voting even more sour than it already can be.

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                [–]calnick0 176ポイント177ポイント  (162子コメント)

                I have no problem drinking beer from or with people I have political disagreements with. In fact I think we all need to do that more.

                Wut. Why support them financially when you can choose other options. Boycotts are effective measures of protest. This is why people try to avoid InBev owned craft.

                Edit: If you don't want politics to affect your business don't involve your business in politics. Very simple. Businesses also use politics to gain sales.

                Edit 2: Yuengling dude uses the money you give him to bust unions and defeat workers rights. It's like you could tell those things from his stated political leaning and not give him money to support his ideologies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuengling#History

                [–]gprime 123ポイント124ポイント  (137子コメント)

                Why support them financially when you can choose other options. Boycotts are effective measures of protest.

                Novel concept, I know, but it is actually okay for individuals to have different opinions from you without it being necessary to boycott them. It's quite possible to not overreact to every difference of opinion you have with a business owner by refusing to buy their product if you were otherwise inclined, just because of a difference in political preference.

                [–]definitelynotaspy 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Calling it an overreaction is pretty silly. I don't expect everyone to participate in every boycott I do, but it's a perfectly rational reaction.

                Take the Chick-fil-A thing from a few years ago. The money they were taking in from the restaurants was in part being used to fund anti-gay organizations. Lots of people didn't want their money to go to those organizations, so they boycotted. That's completely reasonable and logical, not at all an overreaction.

                [–]Foxtrot56 32ポイント33ポイント  (15子コメント)

                The problem is that they spend money on these issues so you are spending money on these issues indirectly.

                [–]Hip_Hop_Orangutan 222ポイント223ポイント  (24子コメント)

                "I think cucumbers taste better pickled" and "Mexicans are rapists" are both opinions...but I am not drinking beer with the guy who holds the 2nd opinion.

                [–]RES_KnowsYourSins 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Pickles are gross though.

                Cucumber water boarding.

                [–]supermyduper 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                That sounds like the most bourgie method of torture ever.

                [–]MyL1ttlePwnys 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                People can support candidates for other reasons...with a two party election, especially this one, you will always end up with baggage when you vote your priorities.

                [–]BlooregardQKazoo 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Sure, but when a politician crosses a certain threshold you eventually have to be disgusted by them and refuse to vote for them. It's why traditional politicians try to avoid things like being openly racist and unapologetically sexually assaulting people. You can't (or shouldn't be able to) ignore those things.

                [–]TheHighestEagle 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                He never called Mexicans rapists. Did you fail English in highschool or something?

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                  [–]KakarotMaag 75ポイント76ポイント  (56子コメント)

                  I'm not shopping at a store if its got a "no coloreds" sign, not going to a bakery that won't make cakes for gay weddings, and I'm not drinking beer made by Trump supporters all for the same reason. Fuck them, they're bigots, they don't deserve my money.

                  [–]calnick0 35ポイント36ポイント  (12子コメント)

                  Woah! I can do whatever I want bucco! How about that novel concept!

                  Keep your political opinions to yourself if you don't want them to affect your business. Pretty simple.

                  [–]Benjamminmiller 19ポイント20ポイント  (18子コメント)

                  Novel concept, I know, but it is actually okay for individuals to have different opinions from you without it being necessary to boycott them

                  What if I thought we should bring back slavery?

                  This cycle we've heard a lot about how having a different opinion is okay and it's become a shield for people who hold unacceptable beliefs and/or condone unacceptable beliefs. People are missing the fact that some opinions promote discrimination, create acceptance of ignorance, and incite hatred.

                  It's unacceptable to support a candidate, regardless of if you agree with their policies, when they've said so many terrible things about women, immigrants, minorities, or frankly anyone.

                  [–]gprime 3ポイント4ポイント  (16子コメント)

                  It's unacceptable to support a candidate, regardless of if you agree with their policies, when they've said so many terrible things about women, immigrants, minorities, or frankly anyone.

                  I disagree. The reality is that there are only two candidates who can win (or three if Utah gets daring), and people are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. In this particular cycle, I'd say two extreme evils. I'm not going to assume somebody is an evil bigot because they vote for a guy who has said bigoted things. After all, for all of his flaws, Trump does actually articulate a few policy positions that could reasonably earn him a vote from plenty of tolerant people. I'm all for boycotting business owners who are bigots. But supporting Trump isn't proof of bigotry, so I find it pretty insane to pretend that this is any different from boycotting a business for supporting Clinton.

                  [–]Benjamminmiller 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  After all, for all of his flaws, Trump does actually articulate a few policy positions that could reasonably earn him a vote from plenty of tolerant people.

                  There's no excuse in the world to extend Trump enough benefit of doubt to hurdle his lack of restraint, political experience, or knowledge. None of his stances matter if he hasn't demonstrated capability.

                  Bigotry in the 2016 election is holding such strong prejudices against Clinton, that one could continue to support Trump despite the daily displays of new evidence he's unfit to represent our country.

                  [–]gprime 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  You and I are arguing different things, I think. I'm a lifelong Republican who, for the first time ever, won't be voting for the Republican candidate. So I'm with you in terms of the Trump hate. What I'm simply saying is that he's liable to get around 40% of the vote. It is absurd to suggest that all of those people are racist. Sure, some of his voters are. But most people voting for him are likely doing so because in a two party system, he represents the lesser of two evils for some policy reason (taxes, healthcare, Russia), or out of abject hatred for Clinton (the only nominee in history nearly as hated as Trump).

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                      [–]wh3873 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      There is a difference between thinking balanced budgets are ideal always and proposing to ban an entire religious group and register them.

                      I was a conservative as a kid I became a screaming leftist. I can understand the conservative point of view and respect it.

                      I will not support someone who would threaten an entire religious community for personal gain.

                      Of course I was out when he called Mexicans here illegally rapists. Because I understand some and most are different words. So "Some, I assume are good people" means he also assumes most aren't, which they of course are

                      [–]big_hungry_joe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I'm with you. I live in texas but i'm from the east coast. Don't plan on drinking yuengling ever again.

                      [–]Super_C_Complex 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Boycotts are effective measures of protest.

                      but I'm not going to protest them because I disagree with them politically. Taking part in a democratic process is a thing to be applauded even if I disagree with their ideals.

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                        [–]antag4123 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        If this is the case, it always makes me wonder how people can have a one track mind. It's like "oh he's gonna start another world war? ..But what's his stance on obamacare?"

                        [–]triggershadow9er 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It looks like the 1970s died and were embalmed there.

                        Man I feel like thats all of north-eastern PA.

                        [–]Lockridge 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        No, I won't drink beer with Trump supporters. Conservatives, sure. Certainly centrists and leftists. But those who spew violent racist, homophobic, misogynistic, and xenophobic bull shit I won't chat with. Their views are too vitriolic to stand for.

                        [–]DustyMuffin 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        There aren't many Trump supporters that believe those things. But I can show you Clinton supporters who call those who disagrees with them all those things.

                        [–]YoScott 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Don't you really mean All of Pennsylvania except Philly and Pittsburgh cities?

                        [–]stickmaster_flex 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Meh. Yuengling was better when I was 16, now it tastes like every other mass market lager. If I could get their porter up here in MA, I might feel differently.

                        [–]FANGO 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        This is one of those "what do you think he thought?" moments.

                        If his area has been impoverished since the 1970s, I sure as hell don't think he should vote for a republican who isn't interested in helping anybody. "Hmm, my finger is bleeding, better get the chainsaw to fix it."

                        [–]MrZimothy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Seconded on all counts.

                        [–]Tastes_Of_Burning 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        My father-in-law grew up around Pottsville and he moved to rural Eastern North Carolina in the mid-70s because of "job benefits". If you know anything about Eastern NC in the 70s, you'd realize that it means the Pottsville/Denver area was pretty terrible.

                        So yeah, it really doesn't surprise me who the owner of Yuengling supports.

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                          [–]shouldofirregardless 88ポイント89ポイント  (23子コメント)

                          Have you ever been to Pottsville, Pennsylvania? It's crawling with Trump supporters. "Liberal" is an insult there.

                          Source: Grew up there and avoid talking to my family during election years.

                          [–]hobbykitjr 42ポイント43ポイント  (14子コメント)

                          Pennsyl-tucky.

                          PA is a swing state bc philly, Lehigh, Pittsburgh (and universities) are usually more liberal. While everything in-between is conservative

                          [–]pwn3rn00b123 7ポイント8ポイント  (13子コメント)

                          same goes for the other swing states NC and OH

                          [–]tarheels90 15ポイント16ポイント  (12子コメント)

                          And everything state ever. Rural areas trend conservative and urban areas trend liberal.

                          [–]Darcsen 17ポイント18ポイント  (10子コメント)

                          Ironic since most farming communities are extremely reliant on government subsidy.

                          [–]Jauris 11ポイント12ポイント  (9子コメント)

                          If there is one think conservatives know, it's voting against their own self-interest.

                          [–]tedwick 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          To be fair, as a liberal in no major disadvantaged groups, I'm happy to vote against my self-interest as well.

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                              [–]DietrichsMeats 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Let's go to da fuckin' Burma der Bot and fire off a few rounds.

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                                [–]sevanelevan 53ポイント54ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                That's it! I'm boycotting Yuengling from this day forward.*

                                *Until I get back into a state that sells it.

                                [–]beau-tie 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Why is this news? I mean I'm no fan of Trump but since when is it news that someone supports a candidate?

                                [–]HamburgerDude 51ポイント52ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                union busting, poor environmental record..etc jeesh no surrpise there however i don't think buying a few yinlin pitchers at the dive bar for six bucks a piece isnt going to make a difference though in political capital. there is no ethical consumption under capitalism etc.

                                [–]NExSoCal 41ポイント42ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                A Billionaire supporting a not so Billionaire.

                                This is not shocking based on their employment and environmental track record, along with the anecdotal things I've heard about Dick as a person.

                                [–]CacTye 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                Still better than supporting abinbev, amIrite?

                                [–]TheMoneyOfArt 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                abinbev is union, tho

                                [–]CacTye 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Union, sure. But also highly anti competitive and openly hostile to craft brewers.

                                There are a lot of bars where I am where my draft beer choices are ABInbev products, SABMiller products, or yuengling. Given those options, I'll support the historic independent brewery over the international mega conglomerate every time, irrespective of their management's political views.

                                [–]st1y_wan_kenobi 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                which is why i stopped drinking anything they make.

                                [–]sxeQ 122ポイント123ポイント  (119子コメント)

                                That's unfortunate. I might still buy their beer occasionally but I'm not sure I want to spend my money at a company who openly endorse trump.

                                [–]guybehindawall 80ポイント81ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                Yea, it's important to note that this isn't simply Having An Opinion - they've actively participated in the Trump campaign (in an incredibly important state, no less). This holds weight.

                                I don't intend to flat out boycott, but this is definitely a barrier to me choosing Yuengling when it's an option.

                                [–]MlCKJAGGER 10ポイント11ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                Yeah, not cool when commercial companies like this use their image for political purposes. Fuckin just root for America why even take a chance with splitting your fanbase?

                                [–]AgileSnail 37ポイント38ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                Maybe they want to support a candidate they like and who holds the values they do.

                                [–]Guazzabuglio 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                So do it on a personal level.

                                [–]slammmed 24ポイント25ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                Or, you know, exercise their right to choose

                                [–]Guazzabuglio 55ポイント56ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to endorse a candidate, I just think it's tacky for a business to do such a thing. It's like when chic-fil-a came out against gay marriage. Now why does a chicken restaurant have a stance on gay marriage? Just make chicken sandwiches.

                                [–]MlCKJAGGER 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                You're right, it is a tacky thing for a company to do, it's why most companies don't do it lol

                                [–]ssjaken 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                HAH! Yeah right. Companies do that shit constantly.

                                [–]Dominus_Redditi 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                You know the company didn't do that right? Just one of the companies' big wigs.

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                                    [–]eviljason[🍰] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    If that's the case, a boycott by people who disagree with them seems appropriate as they are staying true to their values.

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                                        [–]ApollosCrow 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                        Yuengling has long been my cheap daily drinker. Now I'll be looking for another, and I'm not shy to admit it. Like you said, I don't care what opinions any individual holds, but i do care how large economic forces use their influence.

                                        I think it's a remarkably stupid move to openly bring politics into a business. Especially in this election, where the candidate they are getting behind is one of the most divisive and unsavory we have ever had on the national stage. I mean, it's been all over the media how people are boycotting Trump-related businesses already. Why add your name to that mix?

                                        [–]InvaderDJ 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                        Yuengling has long been my cheap daily drinker. Now I'll be looking for another, and I'm not shy to admit it.

                                        I don't think there is another one like Yeungling unfortunately.

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                                            [–]HDRed 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            You can't enjoy a product because you don't agree with people who have the same political views as you? Sad...

                                            Edit: I read your reply to the same question afterwards.

                                            [–]HamburgerDude 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Buying a pint or pitcher once in a while probably isn't going to do much for their political capital to be fair. It seems rather pointless to avoid Yuengling completely on principle. I would have to avoid so much food from Nestle at the grocery store if I wanted to ethically consume for example and they do and have done far worse stuff than Yuengling.

                                            [–]MusicIsPower 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I would have to avoid Nestle at the grocery store

                                            yeah people do that all the time

                                            [–]Darcsen 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            If stores that carry them suddenly have a huge surplus of product, the next purchase order is going to be much smaller.

                                            [–]SuperTricolor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Same here. This is part of capitalism. If I'm not happy with a company it's up to me to decide if I want their product. I'm out of this one.

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                                              [–]ratcw73 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              If this was a pro Hillary article I guarantee that none of the comments would be "time to boycott Yuengling". People on Reddit are fucking stupid. Get over yourselves and get of your "moral high horse".

                                              Who cares who a company endorses? I'm not boycotting all of Hollywood because they are liberal. I'm not boycotting the music industry because they are liberal. It makes you look like a bigot when you react like this.

                                              [–]kegman83 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              In America you have the right to run your business however you please, this includes breweries. You also have the right to run them into the ground.

                                              [–]truthseeker1990 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Can we have one subreddit without people shoving this crapfest of an election in our faces ... :/

                                              [–]chillin223 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                              Im guessing they're not a union shop...

                                              [–]st1y_wan_kenobi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              buying a case of tan cans tonight because of this.

                                              [–]Jnr_Guru 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              We need more yuengling too

                                              [–]Cruz2Trump 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Yuengling was already one of my top 2 favorite beers. Love it on draft.

                                              [–]shredwoodforest 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              They also make a baller ice cream. My happy hour and dessert just got sadder

                                              [–]motoxrdr21 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Their ice cream is way better than their beer, black & tan ice cream is where it's at, they should have stuck to that after prohibition.

                                              [–]Bloom_brewer 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Their hot sauces are excellent too.

                                              [–]freedom_from_factism 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              He once came into the bar I worked in Rehoboth Beach. When I refused to serve him because he was annihilated (knew who he was, met him earlier in the day) he went into the men's room and tore down the bathroom stall...such a dick.

                                              [–]uwagapies 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                              Ugh, A) In terms of pisswater quasi macrobrew Ying used to be my jam. However, I'll stick with PBR, Union, and actually probably tastes better on an in and out basis b) I'm a socialist, c) I want my brew to stay out of politics

                                              [–]Diegodangers 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Preach comrade, preach.

                                              Here's a list of union made beers, I'm not sure if it's fully inclusive.

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                                                [–]available_username2 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                The fuck is this shit

                                                [–]war3rd 10ポイント11ポイント  (49子コメント)

                                                Well, one more brand to add to my boycott list. Not that it's a great beer anyway, but I definitely draw the line with official Trump support like this. Anoter classic example of 'foot, meet mouth' when they could have just shut the heck up.

                                                [–]shenry1313 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                At what point do you cross the line of too sad...like fuck it you never know who supports who where you spend your money its not worth the checklist

                                                [–]war3rd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Individuals I'm fine with. I'm not going to boycott a person, but where I choose to spend my money is another thing all together. POlitics, religion, and business should all be separate as they each sully the other in some way, IMHO. So I see it as an incredibly ignorant decision to openly support a candidate, particularly one who represents everything your country does not. Hillary, for example, may be a criminal, but she's not openly racist, mysoginistic, ethnocentric, etc, as Trump is. So aligning your business by basically saying "I support [insert incredibly horrible person here whomever it is]" will certainly have ramifications.

                                                It also makes a boycott against your business easy. I don't know who supports whom in terms of where I buy most products. But if you announce it to the press, well, that's where you made a big business mistake.

                                                [–]WhiskyTango3 31ポイント32ポイント  (44子コメント)

                                                So did you get rid of all your friends that support Trump as well?

                                                [–]Kolkom 39ポイント40ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                Who has friends like that!?

                                                [–]KakarotMaag 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Yes. It helps not having very many stupid friends though.

                                                [–]justicebiever 13ポイント14ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                                Not a single close friend of mine supports trump. I don't think this is a real problem amongst the average 21-35 year old

                                                [–]binfguy2 18ポイント19ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                Hmm I am a 24 year old and have about a 50:50 split. In California though so maybe that's a hold up.

                                                [–]KakarotMaag 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Oildale doesn't count.

                                                [–]6e65776163636f 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                An Oildale reference in /r/beer ?

                                                Born and bred 08er here who's voting Hillary. I'm like a unicorn.

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                                                  [–]OptimalDelusion 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Supporting one of two candidates in any case is never a problem in any case. That's how the democratic system works. And there's plenty of people in that age group that do oppose Clinton.

                                                  [–]Katholikos 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                  As a 27 year old, if he wasn't such an offensive piece of shit, I'd vote for him simply because I'm really over the whole "haha I'm high-ranking so that thing I did doesn't get me in trouble" bit I saw so much when I was in the military. He just consistently says things that I can't exactly ignore.

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                                                      [–]Snapdad 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      I hate election year, I wish people would keep their damn politics to themselves. I love cards against humanity, but when I found out they were actively supporting Hilary I was like no way am I buying the political card set. The same goes for yuengling. At least until the election is over, then I can go back to buying their products.

                                                      [–]war3rd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I agree that it is a bad idea for any business to openly advocate for a political agenda or individual, it can do a huge amount of damage. IF the business owner(s) have a preference, the smart thing to do is keep it personal and not a part of their business. We obviously see the fallout from that.

                                                      And this election has been the most revolting elevtion in history (that I know of) as, at least IMHO, both candidates are completely unfit for the presidency. It's quite sad that American has come to this.

                                                      [–]stormcrow212 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      Christ, one minute people here love Yuengling, one statement later, "shitty beer, I'll go elsewhere, fuck you for having an opinion." Every major company has an opinion. Stop being such a bunch of pussies.

                                                      [–]HeadbangsToMahler 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                      Wow, suddenly I hate Yuengling

                                                      [–]longboardingerrday 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      Congratulations, you're someone a politician loves. Will hate anything as long as that thing is pro the-other-guy.

                                                      [–]PM_ME_YOUR_BUTTCHEEX 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      When the other guy wants to grab your mother's immigrant pussy before deporting her... Yeah, you don't really feel like drinking his supporters' shitty beer

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                                                        [–]kilgoretrout68 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        So for those of you that disagree with the stance that the owner of Yuengling has, how should he go about expressing his political beliefs? Should nobody buy or consume anything that is made by somebody who has opposing political beliefs?

                                                        [–]shoblime 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        You're only allowed to openly support Hillary, or you are automatically a pussy grabbing racist.

                                                        [–]fungoid_sorceror 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        you are automatically a pussy grabbing racist.

                                                        Or at least perfectly happy to support and defend one.

                                                        [–]voxshades 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        I don't give a shit. I am still going to drink Yuengling. I lived in Indiana for the majority of my life. Now I live where Yuengling is available. Politics be damned, I am going to drink all the Yuenglings...all..the Yuenglings........

                                                        [–]doppeljr 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        ...Making Yuengling great again...

                                                        [–]HerkDerpner 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        ITT: defensive Trump supporters butthurt that nobody likes their blustery orange creep.

                                                        [–]st1y_wan_kenobi 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        ITT: whiny beer snobs who don't know shit about running a business and can't understand why a business would support a pro-business candidate.

                                                        FTFY

                                                        [–]ItsLightMan -2ポイント-1ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                        I think that's cool, that's their gig, if they support a candidate we should all respect that. It shouldn't have any weight on whether or not we buy their beer.

                                                        [–]rrrx 33ポイント34ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                                        if they support a candidate we should all respect that

                                                        Why?

                                                        No, really. Why the fuck should an opinion ever be automatically granted respect? That makes absolutely no sense in the world. There is literally an unlimited number of opinions I have zero respect for -- which I in fact feel morally obliged to openly and loudly disrespect.

                                                        Supporting an ignorant, bigoted, narcissistic sexual predator happens to be one of those opinions.

                                                        [–]shenry1313 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                        You say this

                                                        But i bet you dont give trump supporters the same berth when they hold the same opinion about clinton supporters

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                                                          [–]donkeyrocket 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I respect the fact that they're allowed to have an opinion and share that if they want but that doesn't mean they still deserve my money. I also have an opinion and I have a right to allow their opinion to impact how I spend my money. If they're willing to back someone they need to accept the fact that business may be impacted by that decision.

                                                          [–]CXR1037 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          I hate this line of thinking more than I hate Trump.

                                                          Why wouldn't it impact purchasing decisions? If I'm coughing up money for beer, I'd rather it go to someone I relate to, especially with an unspectacular product like Yuengling.

                                                          In this case, I don't think Trump, or people who like Trump, deserve support so I'm not going to give my money to them. There's no obligation to support people we disagree with.

                                                          [–]FANGO 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          This is literally the entire point of free-market capitalism. It blows my fucking mind that so many Americans think that purchasing decisions should have nothing to do with the public opinions and actions of a company.

                                                          [–]iSheepTouch 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I half agree with you. I think it's reasonable to not buy a product because you fundamentally disagree with the person running the business. We are talking about beer here and there are so many other options it's not even inconvenient to pick something else. I also think it's fine for them to voice their opinion without everyone getting all up in arms over it.

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                                                            [–]CXR1037 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                            And another brewery I'm happy to never drink beer from!

                                                            [–]TonyWrocks -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                            Shitty beer for a shitty candidate.

                                                            [–]HollowFangs 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            ITT: Buttblasted hipster liberals

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