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Regarding The Anger Around Sourcefed (self.DeFranco)

PhillyDeFranco[M] が 投稿 - announcement

So there was this big thread of anger in the Sourcefed subreddit after they covered the Bieber story in a way their fans didn't like. My name and audience got brought up AGAIN as the reason they were getting hate, so I just wanted to comment on this.

1st up. I do not in any way control the content on that channel.

I think the issue is that Sourcefed keeps dabbling with "real news coverage" (The Loop) and then also comedic news coverage. It gives off the scent that Sourcefed doesn't know what it is. Whoever is planning or not thinking out the content these days, is setting up the hosts for failure. Also I had been asked not to comment on what Sourcefed was doing lately, but seeing Jeremy (dangershark/Head of DDN LA) say that "Phil's fans" are the ones shitting on the Sourcefed videos is an incredibly short sighted comment, that doesn't address your real problem. These are Sourcefed fans, who also watch me. My audience isn't actively seeking out others talking about the same stories, a day later, to shit on them.

You can't act surprised that the audience is angry. Pretty much all my advice to help the channel has been ignored the past year+. IMO Sourcefed should be comedic commentary first and foremost. Play to your strengths. If you play the same game as me (News first, with opinion and comedy added second), you will be compared, and I do it better than most on the internet right now. You have a winning combo with Candace and Suptic. Comedy first, with news as the delivery tool. Give your hosts a chance for success. Know what you are. Be that. Be the best at that.

Anyway my final note: Please take it easy on the hosts. They are following marching orders imo.

Thats it. I'm tired. I just wasted time I should have used to focus on my show. Love ya!

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[–]Joe2596_ 49ポイント50ポイント  (7子コメント)

My audience isn't actively seeking out others talking about the same stories, a day later, to shit on them.

Can confirm. I have no idea what this thread is about.

[–]Pernixian 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Double-confirmed.

[–]M00kieM0use 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

same

[–]inukuro 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, i have no idea what this is about either.

[–]1der33 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Me too thanks

[–]WholesaleVirus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can confirm. I have no idea what this thread is about.

Can confirm also. I have no idea what this thread is about.

[–]Sairuss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ditto. Stopped watching SourceFed for news a little while after they brought on Lieberman, know they got a guy named Mike now, but haven't watched any whitewall stuff for a while. Not even sure the hosts I'm talking about is still there as I know Phil launched new stuff since and hosts may have swapped since then :p

[–]MissFushi 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well said. And its kind you reminded others that the hosts are simply doing their job. Issues like this always stem from higher up~

[–]Alexander_Pope 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

..and it's not like their opinion is rare, I've seen a lot of people saying that Justin Bieber acted like a douche.

[–]Mqtty 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

I loved SourceFed from the start, but recently its turned in to a completely bias shit show. They have some halrious people on(Candace, Mike, and Steven) but the negatives out way the positives strongly on that channel now. The fact that the producer(?) can't take the fact that they put out a shitty product, and attacks someone who covered the story correctly speaks a lot for the future of SourceFed.

[–]RJMakesVids 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

As soon as I saw the Sourcefed video I knew people would compare the two. Whoever is in charge of Sourcefed now really needs to understand its audience and why they are subscribed as the hosts are great when they have freedom, but whoever is sorting out programming is doing a bad job.

[–]PrincessWhiffleball 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sourcefed has been a wild ride.

[–]lucianofasani 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

and I do it better than most on the internet right now.

Damn, Phil let winning show of the year go to his head.

I'm just messing around! It's the truth. It's really strange to see what Sourcefed is trying to be right now. Hopefully things get ironed out and I also hope people start understanding that even though it was Phil's baby, it's not his project anymore.

[–]Kleptomatikk 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Didn't even know sourcefed was still a thing

[–]runningtheclock 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

My audience isn't actively seeking out others talking about the same stories

I can personally agree with this. I am subscribed to both SourceFed and the Philip DeFranco show but after watching the PDS, I really don't feel the need to watch SourceFed. If I do end up watching it's because I enjoy the hosts.

[–]YodasMaster6 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I totally agree with the Steven and Candace suggestion. Hopefully people actually take your advice from time to time because I mean, you are the daddy of YouTube Phil ❤️.

[–]spandxlightning 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Over on the thread on /r/sourcefed, someone said that they should "either report the news accurately or not at all", and I agree. Being a comedy channel isn't an excuse to report incorrect facts, or share news with a huge bias. If you want to be a comedy-news hybrid with comedy as your main focus, great. Do it. But do it well and make sure you're presenting the actual facts. Manipulating a story and only presenting the parts that you think you can make funny jokes out of isn't helping anyone. If you can't make the news both funny and accurate, forget the news and find a new way to make funny content that you like.

[–]Amboner 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love you too, homie

[–]hixsongarren 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree completely with what you said. Its insane and extrmely unprofessional that just because people dislike the latest video they blame someone who is really not involved at all and at best very loosely tied to the company. I thought sourcefed was doomed when joe, elliott, lee and the rest of the orriginal crew left, but they got new people who continued to make great content and LISTENED TO THE AUDIENCE!!!!!! now sourcefed seems to have the approach, our fans dont really want to see unbiased news, they want to see controversy and opinions because that is getting the most views right now. Its a shortsighted, destructive plan that unless it is changed soon will be the death of the channel. They already lost my subscription and ive been subscribed since 2011. Hope they change, but it might be too late. This beiber storybwas just the nail in the coffin for me.

[–]AstroAgama 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm gonna play devils advocate. Phil you continually say your audience is one of the best informed and most reasonable. At some point this was going to collide with people giving differing opinions. You do have some unreasonable people if your fandon, however large, and they believe they are well informed because they read you and reddit. I don't think it's your fault but it is definitely your fans colliding with sourcefed fans. I think you should have discouraged their actions not dismissed them.

[–]garrett1999o3 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

We should just promote Joel to CEO of Sourcefed already.

[–]CashWho 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, he hasn't been perfect either. I think everyone at SF had a rough time but I also think (aside from stuff like this) they're all getting better.

[–]speedy_arrow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree sourcefed needs More Hello Boys

[–]jkernan7553 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

People are crazy these days. You should keep doing what you're doing and Sourcefed, honestly, should keep doing their thing too.

[–]TruthinessInc 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

When SF seems to be mentioned it's followed closely with - I remember Sourcefed...I use to watch that.

...use to...

It hasn't been worth watching in far too long. And I hope the "secret" meeting that Steve, Joe, Lee and Elliot had and posted a picture on Twitter about, actually becomes something.

Most of the people who were big SF fans a few years back have grown up, but SF had not. Trying to bring in young viewers is always going to be a part of most channels on YT, but just letting those old fans go was/ is a mistake. There should be some kind of happy medium or compromise.

2 cents

[–]inukuro 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I stopped watching Sourcefed a while back, i even unsubscribed because i was not enjoying ANY of the content they were putting out. Then i remember watching Phil and him saying "I no longer have anything to do with Sourcefed" and it was that "aha" moment as to why it was beginning to suck so badly. I honestly don't enjoy it. Their humor to me, it seems that they try waay to hard and so they never even managed to get a smile out of me. I don't understand why they are blaming you Phil, they are ignoring your advice on what to do to help and then they turn around and blame you and the nation when shit hits the fan? I'm glad i got out of that mess, now more than ever.

[–]Muffinizer1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you play the same game as me (News first, with opinion and comedy added second), you will be compared, and I do it better than most on the internet right now.

Shit PhillyD throwing some fire here.

[–]bigfear 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I stopped watching SF since the 3 OGs left.

[–]BilboTheBarrelRider 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love that Phil knows we aren't the witch hunting type. I had no idea this was a thing, and I'm kind of offended because of it.

The nation is a community of people with different opinions and views on many things. But I thing most of us can agree on is that witch hunting is stupid and we don't do it.

Does this man even know who we are? We're not leafy's people, we're not Fousey's people. We're the Goddam nation of beautiful bastards.

[–]speedy_arrow 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you ever try and avoid doing the same news stories as Sourcefed knowing you may have different opinions on the matter?

[–]inukuro 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He shouldn't have to. Back in the day i would watch both Sourcewfed and Phil cover the same story and i would enjoy both. Sourcefed turned into shuch a shit show and it probably started once Phil stopped helping them. Shame really, i used to really enjoy that channel.

[–]Palazzi_TheMix 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

If I may ask, what exactly is Phil's association with Sourcefed?

[–]TheSplendidAngharad 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Phil created SourceFed, but sold it to discovery networks years ago.

[–]1der33 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They work in the same building and I think that's it

[–]inukuro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He created the channel. Sourcefed was amazing back in the day, they covered news mixed with comedy and they did it so well. Nowadays they fall flat on delivering what got them so many subscribers in the first place. I myself unsubscribed from them a while back.

[–]-chadillac 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I won't lie I saw they posted a video about it and just unsubbed. Nothing against the hosts because I think they can be great, but I just am not a fan of the format of the shows anymore. I'm still subbed to source fed nerd, but the actual source fed channel has just sort of lost me. I didn't direct any hate or anything, I just realized that I didn't feel like subbing to them anymore.

[–]redditkilledmygpa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya'll should go to the post Phil links to from yesterday in his OP. He left a link to this thread there but was gracious enough to not mention it here. I will though, go upboat it so that his defense is heard in that thread.

[–]spartantalk 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I stopped watching Sourcefed basically after the Original crew left, mainly because it stopped feeling like comedy. It turned into just another channel that broadly covered news and never surpassed others that specialised in the niche they covered.

[–]inukuro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really? i left it because to me it seemed they were trying way to hard to keep the level of comedy the originals had and failing miserably at it. It was no longer funny in fact i started find it cingry and so i left because i no longer enjoyed it.

[–]SomeNational 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jeremy's comment Phil is referencing: https://www.reddit.com/r/SourceFed/comments/59c9qy/beiber_is_a_douche/d97qh7e/

[–]phantomenacex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Sourcefed subscribers are morons. When the videos were opinionated and about serious topics (excluding The Loop), everybody asked where's the old Sourcefed. When they changed the style to comedy over news, I saw people in the comments saying "Remember when Sourcefed covered real news?" or "I miss [INSERT NAME OF HOST HERE]". Here's what I'm going to say, the original hosts are gone, get over it, these are different people with different opinions ,different writing style and different delivery. You want the original Sourcefed ? Go binge on the video from years ago, maybe that'll satisfy your nostalgia boner. You don't like the channel and where it's headed ? That's what the Unsubscribe button is for. There's not point in not liking a channel and still going out of your way to hate on it, and I say hate because the majority of people who are criticizing the channel are mostly hating on the hosts or reminiscing, nothing constructive about it. Also Phil has said more than enough times, The PDS and The Sourcefed channel are two separate entities, dragging him into this is like going to Steve Jobs' grave and complaining about Apple. SO let's recap: you miss the original hosts? Unsubscribe. You want non opinionated news? Unsubscribe. You don't like the hosts? Unsubscribe. You don't like the way the channel is headed? Unsubscribe. The only point you CAN make is whether they report "news" accurately, which I won't argue. UNLESS you have something to add to the conversation, do everyone a favor and shut up. Tis all.

[–]obcdeath -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

i watch you, scarce and drama alert. I have never even seen sf and have want or need to. Keep up the great work Phil :)