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Everybody loves their Trump insurance, which complies with the ACA
Everybody loves their Trump insurance, which complies with the ACA

Donald Trump went on Fox News Tuesday to let us all know he has no idea how the Affordable Care Act works, but he knows it’s a failure, because his employees love the insurance plans they have with the Trump Organization. Or maybe all Trump’s employees complain that their Obamacare is just terrible, and they all have huge problems with it. Yes, Wut?

Trump apparently has no idea what Obamacare is, or he has no idea what kind of insurance his employees have, or maybe both at the same time, since Trump has never been troubled by cognitive dissonance — he can believe multiple contradictory things at once, especially if they’re all wrong. When Trump spoke to press Tuesday at his Trump National Doral Miami golf club, multiple reporters confirmed he said “All of my employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare.” So boy oh boy, they hate that Obamacare, with all its problems.

Shortly after his “campaign rally” — another ad for his wonderful golf resort, really — where all his employees loved him a whole lot, Trump had a little chat with Bill Hemmer on Fox’s “America’s Newsroom” in which he said his employees just love the insurance they get through their jobs at Trump National, because it’s so much better than Obamacare. Which he just said they all have tremendous problems with.

CBS News reporter Sopan Deb captured the Wait-Didn’t-He-Just-Say-The-Opposite dialogue:

trump-obamacare-interview

Huh. So they’ve all got great insurance AND they have tremendous problems with their Obamacare? Norman! Please coordinate! We know we just made a joke in an earlier post about “Schrödinger’s Ballot Box,” but we can only conclude that either Trump’s employees exist in a quantum state where they simultaneously have employer-provided insurance (which they love) and cruddy old Obamacare (which they hate), or Donald Trump is a fecking eejit who has no idea what he’s talking about.

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We’re going to go with the latter, since none of the Doral employees appear to be winking in and out of existence. And also because Huffington Post notes that Trump National Doral Miami employees actually do have pretty decent insurance, “so there’s no way ‘all’ the people who work there are having ‘problems’ with Obamacare.”

So apparently Trump managed to say something true during the day — his employees like their insurance, at least. Or if they don’t, they’re complaining about the company plan.

And as Karoli Kuns points out at Crooks & Liars, one reason the employees’ plans are so good “is because of the consumer protections baked into the ACA.”

But wait! Doesn’t the ACA need to be repealed and replaced with “something terrific,” since the average price of the individual plans on the exchanges is going up this year — about as much as the Congressional Budget Office predicted it would in 2009? Well, for one thing, subsidies that help people buy coverage are also going up.

Now, this doesn’t mean the exchanges are perfect and awesome — like every program, Obamacare needs tweaks, not dynamiting. Like adjustments to the subsidies for individual plans to make them more affordable to people with lower incomes, especially in states where Republicans refused Medicaid expansion. A public option would be an excellent idea, too. And wouldn’t you know it, that crazy Hillary Clinton wants to fix those problems, instead of throwing the whole thing out, leaving millions of people with no insurance again, and getting rid of the consumer protections the ACA put in place.

Yes, we know, it would be a lot better to scrap everything and start again, since people really miss being denied coverage for preexisting conditions.

[MediaMatters / Sopan Deb on Twitter / HuffPo / Crooks & Liars]

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  • Hmmm… If only there was a candidate who has spent the last quarter century working on health care reform.

    • bookish
      • Beanz&Berryz

        Pshaw… Not even a close body-double! She’s a good 25 years younger than Hillary…

      • DainBramage

        Look at that young spitfire. She’s really going to be someone, someday.

        • Beanz&Berryz

          Once she gets a little experience…

        • Iron Monkey

          I would hate to be an idiot running for President against that fiery young woman.

      • Between her and Dana Scully, smart women ruled the Nineties.

  • bookish

    2h2 hours ago
    Owen Ellickson ‏@onlxn
    RYAN: Do you… know what Obamacare is?
    (silence)
    TRUMP: It’s a powder–
    RYAN: JESUS
    TRUMP: Kidding! Jeez.
    (silence)
    TRUMP: It’s a cream

    Owen Ellickson
    2h2 hours ago
    Owen Ellickson ‏@onlxn
    RYAN: Your employees have had horrible problems with Obamacare.
    TRUMP: Right.
    RYAN: Which they don’t have.
    TRUMP: Correct.
    RYAN:
    TRUMP: OK?

    • Mr. Blobfish

      That can’t be real

      • Iron Monkey

        Real enough.

    • This dude’s been killing it on Twitter for a while now.

  • Michael Smith

    With any other presidential candidate I remember, something like this would have been majorly embarrassing. With him, its nothing. I’m like “did he say something sexually inappropriate, sexist, racist, homophobic, Islamophobic, etc.?” No? Then he did relatively well in these speeches.

    • clubseal

      Donald “Yes, the bar does go lower” Trump

  • Mr. Blobfish

    My stars, why mess up his pretty lil’ mind with facts and things.

  • Callyson
  • Jeffocaster in the desert

    OT: Just voted in NM, so Hillary is up 1-0……

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Maybe he can get the Supreme Court to investigate it. Bigly.

  • whitroth

    You want “pre-existing conditions” that the GOP didn’t even care to think about fixing? How about, in ’02, I think, when I was on COBRA and trying to find something cheaper, a rep of BC/BS IL, on the phone, call recorded for quality insurance, told me, quote, “There’s no insurance company in the country that will cover you until at least five years after the end of chemo” (which I’d had the first half of ’01).

    Which meant that other than through a job or COBRA INSURANCE IN THE US. But we had *such* a great system before the horrible Obamacare…..

    • Nastyinencinitas

      A co-worker of mine, who is in his mid-20s, is a cancer survivor and at the last place he worked, which was an insurance company, he could not get insurance. He has insurance now. Stupid Obamacare trying to take care of people.

  • Pickle Truther (AntiDerpomeme)

    Obamacare turned me into a newt.

  • OneYieldRegular

    “I don’t use much Obamacare, to be honest”

    WTF?

    • Only a little bit. But believe me, he’s the most terrific Obamacare user when he does use it, people are saying that.

    • Bad Hombre Ron

      That’s been my reaction to pretty much everything he’s ever said.

    • FlownOver

      Just the tip?

  • fawkedifiknow

    Trump ought to talk to his Plan Administrator and see if it covers tummy tucks for 70 year olds

  • Mavenmaven

    He believes that Obamacare insulted him once, so he’s against it forever.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    I am totally shocked, shocked, that Drumpf doesn’t understand Obamacare.

    Let’s add that to the legions of things Donald doesn’t understand. He makes Vizzini look like the most wired in, fully groks everything guy in the universe. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e5fd8baaf693d37cb2f382c0b7e973a1aa0b7b361411682467f2aaabee6e797e.jpg ,

  • Shibusa
  • TJ Barke

    I think he may not actually understand anything other than being a stupid prick.

  • Oily Messiah

    This could have been a running series for every day of the Primary and Election “Guys we think Donald Trump might not actually understand XXXX”

    No shortage of material

  • Vecchiojohn

    Obamacare®: The soothing salve for unemployed Trumpsters.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    I don’t know why this would surprise anyone – Obamacare is just a square in RWNJ buzzword bingo.

    He doesn’t know what Common Core, the Iran deal or TPP are either. He knows fuck all about anything.

    • clubseal

      I’m pretty sure in the right wing world, the Iran deal and Common Core are inextricably linked.

      • Oily Messiah

        Yea, theyre all part of a plan to turn the US into a socialist commie hellhole

        • clubseal

          A hellhole doesn’t really sound that bad, like something kind of nasty, but that you could climb out of.

          • cmd

            You just use your bootstraps.

    • Oily Messiah

      Including fucking apparently, since he can’t seem to wrap his febrile brain hair around the concept of consent.

    • TheDogAteMyVote
      • Lefty Frizzell

        He likes his curly gold bits. And picture frames.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Good example of someone who deserves a tumbrel ride.

      • Why the fuck is he wearing cricket whites?

        And why is he wearing a box thats 4 sizes too large?

      • notaten

        I up-voted only because I closed my eyes really tight and shouted three times “Make it go away forever FSM, PLEEEASE!” Here’s hoping it works. (fingers crossed!)

      • nasty taco truck vagenda

        Who’s that supposed to be? Bobby Jindal?

      • OrG

        Those are NOT his real hands.

  • TheDogAteMyVote

    Health insurance and health care. People can’t afford it. Employers can’t afford it. The country can’t afford it. Perhaps it’s time to try a system that is not profit-based.

    • DainBramage
    • TJ Barke

      Profit based medicine = Extortion.

      • borninatrailer

        Nonsense! We just need more choices and the free market would provide. Why, I remember when I savagely broke my ankle and my first thought was “Time to go price shopping!”

        • TJ Barke

          I had a gaping head wound once and I made sure I had the various local medical providers bid for my patronage.

          • DainBramage

            That’s exactly what I was thinking after my vehicle hit black ice, veered off the road headlong into a ditch and flipped several times. “Let the invisible hand of the market do it’s magic!”

          • Villago Delenda Est

            Something similar happened to a friend of mine. His carboy blew up on him, and he was bleeding, and as he was waiting for the medics to arrive, he checked to see if the facility they were taking him to was in network for his insurance. Web site said “sure!” but after he got care, the facility said “nuh-uh”. State insurance commission contacted, scolded him for actually checking on that instead of getting care right away, and he related the story of how insurance does not equal care and never will. With our fucked up medical care financing system, you are compelled to check for coverage before getting care. It’s one step from that to having to shop around for an ER to treat your cardiac incident.

          • Bad Hombre Ron
        • Good_Trouble_Yall

          Guy on the next gurney looked at you and said, “You know Joe down at the AutoZone could take care of that for you ’bout half the cost, don’tcha?” Right?

      • Villago Delenda Est

        “Extortion” is such an ugly word. If you use it again, I’ll have your legs broken.

    • Oily Messiah

      That sounds suspiciously like seizing the means of production…

      • Iron Monkey

        Would be a lovely transitional step on the way to smashing the state and building socialism.

        • Villago Delenda Est

          The state will always be with us, it’s how we collectively get things done. However, the state needs to be held accountable, and needs to be transparent. This is how you build trust.

      • Isn’t that what Trump did with pussy?

    • therblig

      or perhaps we should emulate the healthiest person to ever ascend to the presidency. bigly.

      • Oily Messiah

        Time to eat McDonalds with a fork (maybe that’s the secret fast food is actually good for you, but only if you eat it like you’re eating in a fancy restaurant)

      • Vecchiojohn

        Does Obamacare cover those terrible bone spurs that kept him out of the army?

    • Vecchiojohn

      Go back to France!

      • TJ Barke

        I don’t know anyone there!

    • borninatrailer

      “The NHS is safe in our hands.”

      -Limey Chick-Reagan aka Margaret Thatcher

      Just felt like putting that here.

    • Jenny, Manocidal Vagendiac

      But but but I won’t have a nice waiting room with artesian water!!!!

    • Hey are you some sort of social communazi Lie-beral?????

    • OrG

      Why do you hate America?

  • Shan the Nasty Libtart

    Ugh. I can’t even begin to try to translate the conversation I had with the office Conservaturd this morning because he had to start waffling on about how Obamacare premiums went up (because that’s never happened with insurance premiums before).

    I shut him down by explaining why single payer is what we need instead, how it works just fine all over most of the rest of the civilized world and when he started laughing NO DUDE DO NOT GO THERE I LIVED IN THE UK and not only did I pay no more in taxes than I do back in the states, I ALSO did not have an insurance premium to pay for, for insurance that could be cancelled on a whim, maxed out at $X, or denied to me due to a pre-existing condition, and I have the check stubs to PROVE it.

    tl;dr I told the ignorant fuck to STFU and fuck off and he did.

    • TheDogAteMyVote

      Nationalized healthcare is horrible. My friend who lives in Canada went in for an MRI and they killed his family and molested his dog.

      • Oily Messiah

        And then put him in a FEMA camp, because fuck it why not

      • TJ Barke
      • clubseal

        In that order? Communists!

      • Msgr_Bad_Hombre

        Well, thank goodness it was the dog they grabbed and not his pussy.

      • Jennaratrix

        I will be sending you the bill for my new keyboard. The address is 666 STFU Way, East Bumshart, Nebrahoma, 12345, correct?

      • Bad Hombre Ron

        To be fair, we were nice enough to rehome his goldfish. We’re not monsters.

      • OrG

        It’s TRUE,I saw it on Fox News.

    • clubseal

      Shan the Nasty Libtart for our second female president of the U.S.!

      • Beanz&Berryz

        SNL! SNL!

      • Shan the Nasty Libtart

        PFT!

    • Good_Trouble_Yall

      I’ve never lived overseas, but I fainted in a museum in Italy, and I received an ambulance ride, an MRI, an X-ray (because I fell on my shoulder), IV fluids, and such as, and it cost me not one dime. Here in the states I had an ambulance ride plus all of the above except the MRI for another problem, and it cost me over $3000 – and I have insurance.

      • clubseal

        Hey, that’s just the free market at work. Those who can’t afford healthcare in our country help move the funeral economy.

        • TJ Barke

          Hospitals should just have some of those captured bolt air guns they use on cattle to euthanize the poor, and then recycle them into fertilizer.

          • Bad Hombre Ron

            Shh, don’t give them ideas!

          • clubseal

            Cut out the middleman – turn ’em into Soylent Green instead.

      • Shan the Nasty Libtart

        Yeah. I made a whole brand new HUMAN when I lived over in the UK and it didn’t cost me ANYTHING in medical expenses. I did another one when I came back to the US when health insurance premiums covered a lot more than they do now, and the out of pocket expenses were less, so it didn’t cost me very much. If I did it now, it would be thousands.

        • It’s YOU spending my tax pounds!!!!!!!

          That’s OK your welcome

          • Shan the Nasty Libtart

            Hey, I paid in for MANY years myself when I worked over there. And the VAT on alcohol and cigarettes is INSANE, so I’m sure I gave y’all plenty of money back into your coffers!

      • Scooby

        I had emergency surgery in China to have my retina reattached and it cost me $125. Everyone said you have to go to a ‘Real’ doctor in the US and have it checked. He spent 3 minutes looking at it and said the work was perfect. Then he charged me $325!

        • Shan the Nasty Libtart

          Holy crap….

    • Jonny On Maui

      “If the ACA had not gone into effect when it did my wife would have died 6 years ago from a pre-existing condition she had when the salt mines wanted to change how they provided health care coverage. So yes, I’m biased in favor of the ACA. If you had been in my position, you would be too, unless you hate your wife.”

      What I used to say to ignorant assholes who were clueless about what the ACA actually did. Was pretty effective at plugging their pieholes.

      • Shan the Nasty Libtart

        Sometimes, the level of dumbth they have deserves that kind of stinging response because their ignorance physically damages real people.

      • Mezzaluna

        I haven’t seen you around in a while. It’s nice to have you back.

        • Jonny On Maui

          Thank you! I’ve been on vacation. 10 days of zero trump. I’m kinda sorry the vacation ended…

    • DainBramage

      Shan, you are one nasty libtart. Never change.

      • Shan the Nasty Libtart

        …he made me mad…

    • Yeah, I really have no idea where these chucklefucks get the idea that we in the Socialized Medicine parts of the world have taxes that are super high… I pay ~13% per paycheque in taxes (total of about 26% of my cheque goes to deductions, but that includes my RRSP contribution and CPP) and I’m well over the median income in Canada…

      • Good_Trouble_Yall

        Oh, the ones who are in Congress say this because they know it’s a lie that the rubes will listen to and believe. The rubes get the idea from Faux.

      • Shan the Nasty Libtart

        Yeah, more than 27% of mine goes to deductions (all taxes plus 401K). Almost 9% is just the health insurance premium for myself and my kids.

  • therblig

    and yet his followers don’t care about the anusvomit that spews from his talkhole. to them, it’s a warm summer shower.

  • bubbuhh
  • DeplorableTXTacoTruckofDoom

    “Donald Trump is a fecking eejit who has no idea what he’s talking about.”

    I agree with your conclusion, but not on the analysis. I doubt Trump ever talks to his employees (except when trying to bang them) and moreover, I doubt he even cares what they think about anything (they’re sad, low energy, losers!)

    • TheDogAteMyVote

      He overheard their conversations about the amazing healthcare plan on the secret recording devices he placed around the resort to catch them talking about him. How else could he know if they wanted an HMO plan, a PPO plan, or to bang him?

    • Snark Tank, Bad Hombre

      Most of them speak Messican or Polish anyway.

      • Bad Hombre Ron

        ‘Nasz szef jest takim dupkiem.’
        ‘Es bueno que él no sabe lo que estamos diciendo de él!’

    • So why isn’t anyone bringing up his secret – monitor all his guests central creeping station….

      http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/30/report_donald_trump_spied_on_mar_a_lago_phone_conversations.html

  • Msgr_Bad_Hombre

    But wait! Doesn’t the ACA need to be repealed and replaced with “something terrific,”

    No. It needs to be repealed and replaced with a wall, I think. Or maybe it was a wedgie. Something like that.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      I’m all for repealing the ACA and replacing it with “something terrific” as long as that “something terrific” is universal single payer health care.

    • Mezzaluna

      I’ll take an Epic Pantsing for 400 Alex.

  • Good_Trouble_Yall

    With just 14 days to go before he vanishes forever off our televisions and our minds, the screaming racist traffic cone has to find a new way to distinguish himself every day. Or, not distinguish, so much – it’s on the tip of my tongue . . . . Oh. The opposite of that.

    • Mezzaluna

      Sadly, he’ll only shut up when he passes away. The media will feel the need to cover him from time to time for nostalgia and page clicks and he can’t quit Twitter. It just completes him.

  • Iron Monkey

    Golf course owner says, “I don’t use much Obamacare”, which might make sense on a lost continent that hasn’t discovered that words have meaning other than what the speaker intends. Or maybe not even there.

    • Only half a scoop. If I use a full one I get the runs.

  • Jennaratrix

    Of course he doesn’t understand the ACA. It’s for the poors and teh blahs. He doesn’t know anyone like that.

    • And also for us self-employed folks and consultants out here.

      • Jennaratrix

        Of course. I realize that; I was channeling what Drumpf probably thinks. No offense intended.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Everything, how does it work?

  • Nasty Duke

    It would have been surprising if he had shown any insight into the problems being seen with Obamacare. People who get insurance through their employers generally like the changes due to the regulations on what the insurance companies must provide.

    People who are buying on the open market are having problems because people who need medical coverage are getting it and people who don’t need it aren’t That’s making the pool very costly and driving up premiums.

    • Bitter Scribe

      It would have been surprising if he had shown any insight into anything.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Well, the other catch is that the Feds told Aetna that they couldn’t merge with someone else, and Aetna is throwing a hissy fit by raising rates in exchange states.

    • Anna Rompage

      The only insight you might gain from Trump is how the inner workings of the brains of a cheeto hued, fascist white nationalist petulant man child and his supporters work…

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    And as Karoli Kuns points out at Crooks & Liars, one reason the employees’ plans are so good “is because of the consumer protections baked into the ACA.”

    No, Kuns doesn’t say that: Kuns says that HuffPo makes that claim. HuffPo (in the linked article) also does not say that.

    If Trump’s employees receive the kind of healthcare plans that it sounds like they receive (Cadillac is a word used by one of the quoted experts), then it doesn’t have to do with the ACA at all. That kind of excellent health care insurance isn’t addressed by the ACA, that I know of.

    I love that ObamaCare exists, and Trump can shove it up his Cheeto-dusted bunghole, but let’s say that ObamaCare does more than it does.

    • cmd

      I’m just surprised he gives his employees decent health care at all, if that is the case.

      • AnnieGetYerFun

        Yeah, color me surprised, too. Either a blind squirrel found a nut, or someone who makes those decisions on behalf of his companies is a decent human being.

        • Shan the Nasty Libtart

          …or that person has to settle for the same health insurance s/he is negotiating on behalf of all the other employees.

          • AnnieGetYerFun

            Sure. That also.

  • notaten

    “Donald Trump is a fecking eejit who has no idea what he’s talking about” could be the title of every story written about him until the end of time.

    • The Wanderer

      Upfist for ‘fecking.’

      • JustDon’tSayHombre

        Is that what an upfist is for?

    • cmd

      When I read blather like what he said on FOX, I really wonder about otherwise seemingly intelligent people who would ever consider voting for him. I was sitting at a lunch at a flea market at a Lutheran retirement community and overheard these guys behind me saying, how they would vote for Trump because Hillary was a criminal. Also, too, the Muslim religion doesn’t allow them to follow the constitution. I had to move to the other side of the table to get the sun out of my eyes and saw that one of them was this retired pastor who lived down the street from my mom before she moved into the nursing home part. Now, I have never had a political conversation with him, and would have assumed he was conservative and probably republican, but he’s a nice guy, seemingly, and not an obvious raving lunatic and since he would have had to at least get through seminary, not illiterate. Sorry, rant.

      • notaten

        I have no response for these folks either. You can’t reason with them because they seem to be beyond reason. The “liberal” media has brainwashed them to the point that, at least as far as I can tell, if they give up the premise of what they have believed all these years, then they think that maybe their whole life has been based on lies? I don’t know, I’m just an armchair psychologist, and not a good one, but something like that is my theory. P.S. I’m not a good speller or grammarian either :)

  • The Wanderer

    Single-payer would solve a lot of these problems.

    • Bad Hombre Ron

      That’s why you don’t have it yet.

      • Bitter Scribe

        Yeah, anything that takes money from Person A to help Person B is a sin against Jesus Christ and the Founding Fathers.

  • Scooby

    I only use The Obamacare to get The Niagra so I can have The Sex.
    -D. Trump

  • Beanz&Berryz

    Tweakses versus dynamiting….

    We here in Orygun have a big, messy tax measure on the ballot, a sort of stick-it-to-the-man-VAT, to try to address a property tax charlie foxtrot measure from 20-something years ago. This measure has elements that are terribly regressive, that are inefficient, and all that, but it’s something. And, while it’s not the sales tax that we need (the No ads call it a sales tax – so that’s part of why it’s not a sales tax), it gets something on the books that can get the tweaks, to be made better, to try to get some balance to our state tax system. So, we yessed it, cuz we’re libz and it IS a tax and it DOES stick it to the Man, even if a $25M gross income c-corp Man isn’t all that much really The Man…

    • Shan the Nasty Libtart

      But can you pump your own gas yet?

      • Beanz&Berryz

        I wouldn’t admit to that on the Internets…

      • OrG

        Never!

  • Courser

    Every time the Doral golf resort is mentioned, I think of the shitty cigarette brand I used to smoke. Talk about nasty!

    • notaten

      So glad it’s not just me. My Mom smoked Dorals and when I was a sneaking teen even I wouldn’t sneak them. Go for Uncle Mikes Camels every time!

  • Bitter Scribe

    This guy honestly thinks that if he says disaster, catastrophe and destroy enough, he doesn’t have to make sense.

    • NastyKatie

      The screaming crowds would seem to support his assumption.

  • Serai 1

    I love how he says “I don’t use much Obamacare” as if it’s a brand of conditioner he doesn’t like.

    • Rick Hill

      Obamacare? You’re soaking in it….Oh, no. Wait. Mr trump? That’s actually flop sweat in your bowl.

    • Gentle Robot

      I only use Obamacare if I know she’s up for it.

  • FlownOver

    Dok – you can keep this head handy, replacing the last word as needed.

    ED. – I see Oily Messiah has been there, done that.

  • Gwennie_G

    This Obamacare is TERRIBLE! And the portions are so small!

  • Bub the Bad Zombre

    Guys, We Think Donald Trump MIGHT NOT Actually Understand Obamacare

    *sighs, pulls out massive ledger the size of an old NYC phone book*

    “I’ll add that to the list…”

  • Kavefish

    Speaking of things Donald Doesn’t Understand:

    I think I finally figured out why he keeps saying the election is rigged:

    He’s really just trying to say that it’s in “ship-shape.”

  • Doug Langley

    “I don’t use much Obamacare.”

    So, just a little bit then?

    • Gentle Robot

      I know a place you can get REAL good Obamacare. Cares the shit out of you.

      • Doug Langley

        No, don’t think I can afford that much. I’ll just take half a serving, thanks.

    • Kooolest G

      just the tip

  • Gentle Robot

    It’s like someone threw a softball at him in the world series and he dropped the bat and started screaming about how those people on the pitching mound, you know who I mean, are tossing rotten pumpkins at him, and in my day, which, you know, was a pretty good day, tremendous day, believe me, pumpkin throwers, especially rotten ones, the worst ones, the worst, would be coming out of here, they don’t do that these days, not any more, no, we’re too soft, we don’t, on a stretcher.

  • nasty taco truck vagenda

    OT but I don’t think anyone will mind. Samantha Bee is a national treasure:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/24/samantha-bee-gets-nasty-for-hillary-trump-confused-abortions-with-bear-attacks.html

    “No! Only kindergarteners get credit for using their inside voices,” Bee said. “Our media are so punch drunk from the 16-month Hindenburg explosion of Trump’s candidacy, they no longer notice how awful he is unless he Hulks out on stage or grabs the foundational principles of our republic by the pussy, which he will if someone sticks the needle in just the right spot.”

  • NastyKatie

    I read that as Trump National Doral Mini golf club.
    I very much want that to be a thing.

    Also too, the statement “I don’t use much ObamaCare…” bothers me a great deal. Does he think it’s a cream or something like Neosporin?

    • nasty taco truck vagenda

      Got tiny hands? Play Trump National Doral Mini Golf Club!

  • azeyote

    i don’t think Trump understands more than one syllable at a time –

  • CATMAN

    Trump has learned that all he needs to say to get a rise out of his crowds is to say “Obama (insert noun or verb here) is a total disaster”

  • Angela Ruzzo

    I had an ACA health plan. There ARE problems with them, but the problems are due to the greedy, deceptive insurance companies, which should not be a surprise to anyone, as this is hardly a new thing. Like my orthopedic surgeon required an MRI, but the insurance company refused to authorize it, saying it “wasn’t necessary.” And they don’t cover a SINGLE prescription that I have been taking for 6 years, even though they are pretty ordinary medications. And of the 2 hospitals in my town, the private one refuses to accept any ACA plan. It all comes down to greed, which is why we need a national health plan.

    • malsperanza

      I had many similar problems with my health plan, which is not Obamacare. Most were cleared up when the ACA made those practices illegal. And I began receiving an annual rebate for the fact that the insurer spends too high and percentage on advertising.

      My premiums continue to go up dramatically every year.

  • I Am Helpy
    • nasty taco truck vagenda

      This looks a lot like his plan to defeat ISIS.

      • Beanz&Berryz

        It’s actually the same plan…

  • malsperanza

    Wait, did he say that the plan his employees have is more expensive than Obamacare? Employers will be thrilled with that.

  • Khavrinen

    Ok, hands up anyone who thinks Donald J. Trump at any point in time:

    a.) Asked any of his actual employees about their healthcare, and
    b.) Listened to what any of them said.

    Anyone? *crickets*

  • SullivanSt

    This would probably be a great time to point out that states which expanded Medicaid have more stable ACA markets than those states which decided naw fuck poor people because a black man was offering free money so we can’t take it.

    Also, if Doral offers group health, that prohibits individual employees from accessing the Exchange. So his first statement was a flat-out, baldfaced lie, not just an exaggeration, it had no element of truth at all to it.

    Finally, my large-group employer-sponsored plan is definitely better because of the ACA rules on lifetime/annual benefit limits and out-of-pocket maximums. And that’s in NY which already had pretty strong consumer protections (suspect many of which were bypassed by ERISA).

  • JHan

    I’m going with “Donald Trump is a fecking eejit who has no idea what he’s talking about.”

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