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Women are Holding Each Other Back

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Women claim that the patriarchy is holding them back. What really holds them back is victim culture. Men do not want to be alone with women due to the false accusations women may levy against them. If you think this is an exaggeration, consider what happened to me today.

Months ago a woman trolled me online. She considers herself a journalist and professional writer. She Tweeted at me twice, I ignored her, and finally responded after she hit up me up a third time.

I was polite and civil. I RT’ed her criticism of me. By responding to her, she received over 100,000 views on her Twitter – a record for her.

Plus I enjoy criticism. I believe in a robust marketplace of ideas. Even when those ideas are critical of me, I retweet them. Sometimes when people criticize me, others agree, and that tends to make me reconsider my preconceived notions. Thats how the intellectual process works.

What happened next?

She falsely accused me of inciting a mob against her.

Cernovich’s delivery was impeccable: He acted as if he were doing me a favor. He didn’t say anything mean, or directly challenge what I said — and he didn’t have to. He had an army of trolls who could do it for him. Within minutes, several people were tweeting at me, demanding to know what issue I had taken with Cernovich’s article.

To her credit, she doesn’t lie and say I insulted her. Yet my own civility is used against me. If I’m nice to her, it’s still somehow a signal for people to harass her.

Without insulting me at all, he provoked dozens and dozens of people to attack me.

I don’t know Cernovich personally. I have no idea what his real personality is like outside of his blog and Twitter antics. But he’ll always exist to me as the guy who condoned my harassment just because I criticized him.

Read that again if you’re not feeling chills.

“He didn’t say anything mean.”

“Without insulting me at all.”

She admits I was nice. Even when I’m nice to women online and boost their brand, I get blamed for whatever someone else does.

We are moving towards a gender-segregated society.

On Twitter I rarely engage with women or minorities, as the “structural privilege hierarchy” / Victim Olympics means they can write articles about how I somehow incited harassment by not saying anything mean at all!

Given the immense power my Twitter has to bring people new readers and views, you’d think everyone would want to spar with me, or go back-and-forth, as it’s a chance for their brands to grow.

Celebrities like Jemaine Clement have gone HARD at me, and that guy is funny. For me it was a chance to demonstrate my own skills, as he would troll me, RT my response, and continue trolling me. Attacks from influential people are an opportunity to impress your own audience while impressing his as well.

My only complaint with Twitter is that more big names don’t go after me. I welcome the conflict and drama.

When women complain about a lack of opportunity, now you have your answer. It’s not men holding you back. It’s women.

For women and men who want more from life and want to reject victim culture, read MAGA Mindset.

  • NikNYC

    Hillary’s Amerika

  • My guess is that they might use the “harassment” to ban you. Ricky Vaughn was kicked off for less.

  • Lettuce Jones

    “Plus I enjoy criticism” lol then why did you delete my comment faggot?

  • befranktome

    OMG, I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time. Women aren’t holding each other back. You accuse women of a victim culture and then you play the victim. LOL

    • Were you reading the same article? Oops I’m inciting online hate speech against you.
      And its exactly that, online, words, nothing physical.
      Me so sorry. Why not get a pair of balls, even if you are a woman, maybe girly man?

      • befranktome

        Yes, I was reading the same article. lol, I’m not one that gets easily offended at the speech of others. Who needs balls? What good did they ever do? Now the brain, that’s an organ that is desperately needed and should be coveted by many..

        • 3G4Me

          Honey, since you’re so tough, use your grrrlpower to pee standing up. And stop hiding behind your cattiness – post behind your own name, like Mike Cernovich. You think you’re the poster child for strong grrrls, but you’re really the star of the Special Olympics, and a heroine in your own fantasy.

          • befranktome

            I can pee standing up. if that is important to you. Do strong girls bother you? I’ve got nothing to prove to you or anyone else. I have my opinions and voice them. I even manage to be respectful and don’t have to resort to name calling or derogatory statements to voice my point of view. So tell me, can you? Oh, and can you pee standing up? lol

          • Ray Manta

            befranktome wrote:
            > Not everything. Women have built things as well.

            Here are just a few things men have built off the top of my head:
            The Sistine Chapel
            The Empire State Building
            Chartres Cathedral
            Saturn V rocket

            Please tell me what women have built that is in any way comparable to those achievements.

          • Azure Helios

            The Sistine Chapel: Nope, maybe some were involved, but mostly just nope.
            The Empire State Building: Ditto.
            Chartres Cathedral: Ditto.
            Saturn V Rocket: Ditto.

            Notice a pattern here? You’re delusional as hell. You’re taking examples where a tiny fraction of the participants may have been women, and making a statement that the entirety (or at the very least majority) of the work was done by women, something that is clearly false.

            Oh, you only implied it? Well, you knew you implied it, you meant to imply it, and everyone else can tell that you knew and meant to imply it. You’re a liar, period.

          • Ray Manta

            Azure Helios wrote:
            Notice a pattern here? You’re delusional as hell. You’re taking examples where a tiny fraction of the participants may have been women.

            Excuse me, but I was offering them as examples of what men had done, not what women had done. Please try and read carefully before replying.

            I had asked befranktome to give me some examples of comparable achievements by women. Of course, she can’t do that since there aren’t any.

          • Azure Helios

            Strong girls virtually don’t exist. On the other hand, there’s a metric fuckton of women who delusionally think they are strong…

            Having an opinion and stating it doesn’t make you strong. Any fool who isn’t completely and utterly cowed can state a stupid opinion. If they are a bit stronger, they’ll take pains to ensure that their opinion is reasonably accurate, something you aren’t doing.

          • befranktome

            Like I said earlier, I’ve got nothing to prove to anyone. I am confident in my own strength and my opinion is accurate. Maybe you’ve just been unfortunate enough not to have interacted with strong women. I don’t know because I don’t know you. What I do know is that your generalizations are unfounded.

        • Humans with balls built everything.

          • befranktome

            Not everything. Women have built things as well. I’ve always wanted to know, what is it with guys obsessed about their genitalia? What point are you trying to convey?

          • If you knew anything about biology you would know the testicles or balls produce testosterone which shapes the male brain and the male physique. Testosterone is the hormone that gives males strength and the will to succeed. Perhaps you should look into testosterone replacement therapy. From your postings you seem to have excessive oestrogen.
            What have women built? Men built everything, women may have contributed to the design, they seem to have a flair for that kind of thing but in the vast majority of instances they made the tea and sandwiches.

          • befranktome

            I don’t mind debating something with someone who actually has an argument. Sometimes I learn something. When a person starts claiming their superiority because of their testosterone levels, I just laugh. A quick google will tell you what women built. Don’t rely on that testosterone though to do it, use your brain cells. That’s what they are meant for.

          • You are quite dim aren’t you……

          • befranktome

            a bit brighter than you

          • I like a baloney sandwich, two slices of American cheese, on rye bread, buttered on both sides, toasted so the cheese is melted. I like my tea black….

          • befranktome

            That sounds pretty good, make me one while you are at it.

          • Stephanie Lee

            Since all men were built by their mothers, who were women, it would seem that women, by extension, have built everything.

          • Women create life, men build it for you. It’s a symbiotic relationship. Look at everything around you, your house, your car, the road you travel, the lights in your house and on the street at night, the washing machine, sandwich toaster, the electricity used to power such devices, the vast, vast majority of items we use everyday, all invented, built and maintained by men. I’ll say it again it is a symbiotic relationship. Although with artificial eggs, sperm and wombs we all might be made redundant. Now how about that sandwich?

    • MamaEarth

      I think you have completely misunderstood Mr. Cernovich’s point. He starts out by saying that women blame the patriarchal society for any lack of opportunity, thus playing the victim card. What’s inherent in this POV is the role of responsibility of the “injured party”. Our culture today has gotten to the point that women think they can say anything they want to a man, yet if the man pushes back and defends himself, the woman screams harrassment or bully. Trump is a perfect example of this. Rosie O’Donnell said terrible, derisive remarks about Trump and maligned his character (under the guise of a joke). Trump took umbrage of that, so he stood up for himself and gave it back to her. Rosie told the world what she thought of Trump. Trump then told the world what he thought of Rosie. Rosie somehow was cast as the victim of the bully and misogynist Trump. The woman who was trolling Mike was surprised that Mike’s “troll army” stood up for him. How has it gotten to this point, where women assume they can say any outrageous & demeaning thing about a man, without fear of retribution, because if the man “fights back” then he’s labled a misogynist or worse? And really, she thought Mike incited & condoned mob-like harrassment against her, when in reality, she was the victim of her own words and actions. Women keep themselves back because they are their own worst enemy.

      • befranktome

        Victimhood is played and used by both sexes. Some unscrupulous women lie and claim rape. Some very bad men rape and claim the woman is lying.

        • SuperOnionKnight

          The men in those cases are not given victimhood or recognized as victims. It’s considered a failure by our society that we couldn’t put one more man in prison. Only when certain high profile cases of men falsely accused of rape resurface do we as a society give attention to them and only for a short spell.

          • befranktome

            My point is, there are bad people of both genders. I don’t label you for what others do and neither gender should be labeled and painted with a broad brush because of what others do. It’s hard as heck to prove rape. Many have gone free that shouldn’t have. On the flip side of that, women who cry rape that weren’t raped are no different than the rapist that claimed innocence.

        • MamaEarth

          What Cernovich talks about is a “mindset”, and one chooses to be a victim or not. Yes, bad things happen to us all, but it’s how we choose to deal with it that makes up our mindset, our reality. Cernovich’s mindset is certainly no victim, far from it. Yes, women and men play mindgames with each other, but there again, that is their choice.My father died when I was 4 and I am the youngest of 4 siblings. My mother (my hero) could have easily played the victim, the poor widowed Mother. But she didn’t. She worked her ass off for us, we’re doctors, lawyers, writers and I never heard my mother say, “I’m a single Mom.” That was her mindset, along with Godset. My mother always respected men and the role of the father, something that “feminists” do not. Like I said, women think they can say anything at all about men and not have to suffer the repercussions. It comes down to respect for yourself and for men and taking ownership for your actions and words.

          • befranktome

            I am a woman. I do not think I can say anything without repercussions. As you pointed out, your mother isn’t like that either. So are all women painted with this broad brush? Do you think that is right? The bad apples in any barrel reflects on the rest, it shouldn’t. The good apples are still good. Should the good apples be responsible for the one that rotted?

          • MamaEarth

            The point is mindset. You keep talking about how other people act & respond, but we have no control over others. We do have control over how we choose to act/react. It’s just too easy for a woman today to blame men for all of their struggles. And it’s disingenuous. The woman Mike was talking about said that even though Mike did nothing wrong, he was still responsible for what she perceived as he siccing his troll army on her. To her I say, “Grow up.”

          • befranktome

            It’s too easy to blame from both sides. It isn’t and shouldn’t be men against women or women against men. Both blame each other. I guess that will never change.

        • Azure Helios

          A better point would be: Men have become pansies, and women have become feminists.

          Let’s just get real here: On average, women play the victim card a LOT more than men do. They don’t have the advantage in physical power, but their brains are better wired for communication and emotions/emotional manipulation. They tend to play to their strengths, obviously.

    • Isabella Shores

      He posted a narrative about his experience. Nowhere does he claim victimhood. Writing about people who play victim does not equal being one. He clearly stated he enjoys criticism. A victim is one who seeks redress because others said “mean things” to them, perceived or otherwise. Cernovich was not one of those “others”. She was trying to make him the head of some mob. He’s a guy on Twitter who has a large following. He has no control over his followers anymore than I do with my small group. Nor would I want him too. I speak for me. My tweets are my choice and no one makes me tweet the words I use. The woman played victim. Own the truth.

      • befranktome

        Men are the victims of false rape charges is why they do what they do, then he is also the victim of other false charges. Which then justifies what he does or does not do. Pretty much the jist of it all. We are ALL victims and perpetrators of something. What sets people apart, is how they handle that something.

        • Azure Helios

          See, you said something smart, so how can you not see that Feminism is the worst poison for women? This is, quite literally, “women holding each other back”.

          • befranktome

            If you have read some of the responses, would you concede that there are still men who feel women should be subservient? In a male controlled environment, do you honestly think those men wouldn’t hold women back? To be fair, some women would also hold women back but for different reasons. I’m not a feminist, I try my best to be a realist.

          • Days of Broken Arrows

            It’s not a “male-controlled environment.” It’s a male-created environment. Nearly everything around you was designed and built by men. Also, claiming men want “subservient” women is not only a feminist cliche but putting words in men’s mouths. I can’t speak for what all men want, but “subservient” is only a word I hear from feminists, not men themselves. Men should define what they want and who they are, not women.

          • befranktome

            I don’t claim that all men are like that, there are some really good men out there that aren’t like that. Then again there are those out there that are. I try not to group everyone into a defined box based on the actions of a few. You really need to expand your interaction with women who aren’t feminists. Simple question, do you want/or expect women to be subservient to you? If not, that is great. I agree 100%, men should define what they want and who they are. So should women.

    • jingle

      Exaggerating the claim of how bemused you are doesn’t make the substance of his article any more or less bemusing. It’s a very childish thing to do. It’s also very dangerous, because you convince people that can’t or don’t want to listen properly. The result will be violence, because when conversation fails violence is the only way for a person to protect his or her interests. Afterward you will be too proud, stupid or unscrupulous to admit your part in it. And the cycle will continue. I mention it here because left wing politics is currently in a state of fingers in ears shout lar lar lar till the bad evil racists, sexists, somethingists go away, and it is going to cause deaths in the years to come.

      • befranktome

        I didn’t exaggerate my amusement. I really did sit here and laugh. My comments are dangerous because they convince people to not listen properly? Wow. The thing about different people having different opinions is, HOPEFULLY, neither is silenced and both sides may just learn something they didn’t know. When in a vacuum of just your own beliefs, that is what becomes dangerous.

        • Azure Helios

          I wouldn’t say dangerous. Misleading, potentially distracting, and mostly red-herrings would all be more accurate descriptors.

        • jingle

          Suppose you’re not lying just now, then I’m sorry that post was the hardest you’ve laughed in a long time, and I wish you more joy in your life.

          It’s interesting that you misread the part of my comment that suggests you might be interpreted as not listening properly. There’s something quite nice about that.

          The declaration “women arn’t holding eachother back” might qualify as an opinion, but it’s hardly a constructive addition to the debate. If you have a conclusion, supply it with an argument like this:

          Your post is childish and non-constructive (conclusion) becuase you make use of silly hyperbole followed by a stubborn statement not supported by an argument (argument).

          If you could follow that last process I really don’t care what you come up with. It would be a huge step for you.

    • tickletik

      If you “havent laughed that hard in a long time” then you must be a very sad and lonely person.

      • befranktome

        Ahh, you poor thing, making assumptions. What no intelligent response?

        • tickletik

          You are ugly arent you? If you were pretty you wouldnt be here speakong so much shit. You would be out, getting attention from hot guys and having fun. How does it feel knowing you are an ugly woman, who also has an unlikable personality?

          • befranktome

            LOL, you are such a sweet guy/girl. Usually when people make comments like that it’s because they are reflecting their own insecurities. Are you worried that no one sees you as a pretty boy/girl? It’ll be alright. You can come out.

          • tickletik

            Yes, I am sweet, thank you. “Usually when people make comments like blah blah” is what people usually say when they have nothing more to contribute.

            But back to your ugliness, you could try being a more open and kinder person. Just because you are ugly it doesnt mean you have to act ugly.

          • befranktome

            So far, you haven’t contributed anything. Not a single intelligent comment. Assumptions, insults, self projection. You’re not even a very good troll, Is that all you’ve got? lol You need help. All that hate and nastiness will consume you. So tell me, is that just your normal response when you have no intelligent argument?

          • tickletik

            Untrue, Ive contributed much self amusement.

  • Ash

    I agree. Women have gotten entirely too soft when it comes to criticism. I really wish Leslie Jones would have told her trolls and everyone else to kiss her ass and then ignored them from there on out. Be shameless. Do your thing and don’t care who likes it.

    • tickletik

      Ridiculous. women are soft because they are supposed to be that way. Thats exactly why they shouldnt be shameless, or “doing their own thing”. They arent built for it. The west is failing because some faggots decided it would be clever to convince women to act like men. Now we have a group of shitty “men” and a lack of quality women.

      • Ash

        Then how are women supposed to respond to harassment, assault, rape or other violence? If they can’t be victims, and they can’t toughen up to defend themselves, what solution do you propose?

        • codemonkey

          Patriarchy.

          • Ash

            That can never work now.

          • David

            Yes it can. If the meddlers could be shut down a bit, people could return to normal sexual roles. In a generation, those who figured it out would be the ones who reproduced. (That’s the case even now, but the percentage who succeed is much lower because the degree of difficulty getting it done in the hostile environment is so high.)

          • Ash

            I guess I am wondering what a patriarchal society looks like to those who say they want it. Do men really want to be responsible for every little problem women have? Women would pretty much be children that you’d have to cater to. Men already complain about that enough as it is. Even if she’s bound to the house all day, the woman at least needs to be armed and know basic self defense in case of an intruder. But no, that’s “being too masculine.” Then the person who originally responded to me says that women shouldn’t be shameless or do their own thing. So they want women to be spineless, emotional saps who are always crying about their feelings and asking what to do all the time, because no one likes that either. What do these people expect?

          • David

            From what I’ve heard, Muslim society does not have to treat women as children. Women are very private for their households: their husbands, other wives if any, household staff if any. But what happens within the household could be whatever they work out. Back in the 1950’s and 60’s in the USA, a somewhat more traditional time, men would do stuff outside the home but women often ruled within it. It can just be teamwork. If you look at a football team, the roles are very distinct, but they are all aiming for group success.

          • Ash

            I see.

          • Thersites

            Patriarchal society focus on the well being on man, women, and children. Each person has role to play in society. Men and women are taught the dangers of their respective sex are capable of and understand the consequence of their actions.

          • DeCode

            “Women would pretty much be children that you’d have to cater to”, and exactly how is that any differnt from the way things are now? We live in a post patriarchal society with men still having all the responsibilitkes and burdons of patriarchy. If I am going to be burdened by society to treat women like the second class citizens they are, then we may as well force society to redeem the authority that was bestowed upon patriarchal men in the first place.

          • Dankeverry

            Spot on

      • David

        This woman wasn’t soft. She was shitty.

    • David

      Women in my experience aren’t soft in the face of criticism. They need and respect it. But men are taught to be “nice” to women and it causes the women to disrespect them, and then everything goes to hell and no stable families are formed or persist.

      It will take more to fix things, but one place to start is that men should stop being hesitant with constructive task-related criticism of women. As long as it isn’t sexist, you don’t have to check yourself or be right all the time, just say it if it comes to mind.

      • Ash

        You’re right. Men are taught to be “nice” to women instead of being taught to respect them. They think the nice guys are fake and insincere so they go for jerks who don’t respect them either, but women (stupidly) think they are better than the nice guys. Women need to work on weeding out both the nice guy and the jerk.

  • Aurelius Moner

    I know your post is more about not wanting the drama of dealing with other groups’ claims, based on their status as “other.” But, you hit on a real truth about the benefits of segregation.

    It’s not just Islam that separates the sexes. This is a feature of all traditional societies. In Christian society, really even through the first half of the 20th century, men and women still observed a lot of traditional, sex-segregating etiquette. Women did not go into bars or pubs; they were male-only spaces. At dinner parties, after polite conversation in common and a dinner at the same table, men and women withdrew to separate rooms afterwards. My great grandfather would not let my mother or any of the women go with him when he would ride the fields, or head to the tractor garage, since the men were working and did not want to worry about censoring their banter or tripping over oblivious women while they moved equipment around. And in my years in the Russian Orthodox Church, many parishes still separated the women (and kids) to the left side of the Church. And in traditional Christian societies, not that long ago, the rules were very similar to Islam: women wore head coverings (this also lasted well into the 20th century), did not go in public unchaperoned, lived in separate areas of the house (if they were moderately wealthy), etc.

    Separation of the sexes is important for developmental reasons, too. I’m sure a lot of the gender and sexuality confusion, is the result of raising kids as though they were interchangeable, rather than helping them to build a strong sense of comfort in their own skin in a sex-segregated group. Also, once upon a time, men entering adolescence were even more strictly forbidden contact with women. They spent that time toughening up in male peer groups, being mentored by older men, forging serious, deep bonds of friendship with men, etc. Now, young men spend all their time chasing tail, and therefore have an uphill battle developing manly character, forming close, male bonds, and developing that all-around competence that used to define men.

    I think the discomfort many men feel forging strong friendships with other men, comes chiefly from this: because promiscuity is tolerated, they did not form deep friendships with men during the idealistic years of youth, when bonding over serious affairs of the heart is easiest. Rather, they were trying to get into some girl’s pants, and were talking with her. The sexual bond caused many a man to swoon for his sweetheart. He now associates emotional bonding primarily with sexual relationships. So, if a man seems interested in a deeper friendship and heartfelt connections, many guys get the creeps about it – hey, that’s what girlfriends are for! But again, not that long ago, every man would have laughed at the idea that a woman – even his wife – could possibly fill anything like the role of “friend” in his life. A woman is her own thing; men looked only to other men for friendship.

    Sex segregation is the perennial, traditional wisdom of all the ages, and of almost all cultures. The real masters of the Left are keen on integration, because they know how it deracinates people and causes all manner of social disorders and anxieties.

    • jingle

      Interesting comment. The if christianity + islam + other culture therefore probably wise argument is weak though. Taken as a whole religious culture is a mixed bag, to say the least. I can’t get behind any idea of forced segregation, because restricting a person’s freedom makes them miserable. It’s why the left makes me miserable. If we remove the maniacal brainwashing of children and parents against treating a girl as a girl and a boy as a boy, and if we remove the concept of sexism from where it doesn’t belong, then people will be free to action their natural tendency. Mix where they want to mix and segregate where they want to segregate.

      • It’s going to take MUCH MUCH more than the few reasons you mentioned to regain freedom of association and natural gender roles.

        ” because restricting a person’s freedom makes them miserable”

        Women today in the west have unmitigated freedom which is historically unprecedented.

        They are fucking miserable.

        Forcing women to do what is best for society by staying in the home and making babies is the only option to avoid cultural and demographic eclipse. Religion acts as a control mechanism for reckless behaviors. This is what women need. Just not a foreigner’s religion.

        • Azure Helios

          Really, men are utterly miserable too, but a lot of them will never show it, and those of them who do will be labeled as “not men” because “men tough it out”. Religion is just as much a control mechanism for reckless behaviours in men as well.

          • Agreed. I wanted to illustrate though, that the consequences of indulging women’s sexual whims are far greater for society than if men’s sexual whims are indulged at the expense of women’s.

            This is a very well known fact within the manosphere and is simply the result of biological differences. Men can also maintain marriages and families while having something on the side. When women cheat there is cuckoldry and families are ripped apart.

            Are there consequences for male infidelity? Sure but as I stated before the consequences are massively greater when society incentivizes a woman’s hypergamy.

            This by the way is not an argument about morality. So I don’t wanna hear anyone remark…
            “well men cheating is wrong too!”

          • Azure Helios

            I’d be more inclined to say that the consequences are different, and easier for men to deal with, just as the current consequences are generally easier for women to navigate. Other than that, I can’t disagree with anything in your comment.

      • Azure Helios

        There are restrictions that make people unhappy, and there are restrictions that make people happy, but which some people find fleeting happiness in flouting anyway, followed by much greater unhappiness.

        It’s pointless to eliminate some restrictions if they already exist. Sure, enforcing them might waste a lot of time and money, but there are always more and less enforced rules. Things like use of drugs that are harmful, or suicide. Sure, a person should, carrying freedom to its logical extreme, have the freedom to destroy themselves, but it’s not really helping anybody to legalize it if it’s already illegal.

        Another way of saying it, is that there’s learning for yourself, and then there are time-tested traditions that pre-existed you. Granted, not all traditions are good, but in a widely recognized as good system? The vast majority of them will be.

        To put it even more bluntly, there are three kinds of people:
        Wise ones: Learn from other people’s mistakes.
        Average ones: Learn from their own mistakes.
        Fools: Don’t learn at all.

        To be completely honest, segregation by sex is probably wise in all productivity-inclined environments (work, education) with the only non-segregated times being leisure times. Let the women teach girls to be women, and let the men teach boys to be men. Any intervention of the opposite sex, into any of these environments, while some tiny few may have the discipline to resist distraction, the rest will by and large result in massive waste of time, effort, and resources.

      • Aurelius Moner

        Aristotle (and all great moral philosophers) taught that virtue is always the mean between extremes of error. One can err too far on the side of restricting someone’s “freedom,” and one can err too far on the side of “liberating” them. The real prescription for moral health and happiness, is to find out what is right, and to do it without erring towards either extreme. Making the relative good of liberty (i.e., liberty restrained by prudence, under the law, for the purpose of acting on what is right without undue obstruction) into an absolute good (i.e., “Whatever! I do what I want!”), is at the center of Liberalism and our modern crisis.

        Also, I gave a few reasons why I thought sex segregation was a good social norm; I agree that simply saying “everybody does it” would be insufficient.

        • Peregrine John

          I’ve always said that there is no balance between good and evil because good *is* balance. Good to know wiser heads believe similarly.

        • jingle

          That assumes we are anywhere near the extreme of total freedom, and I don’t agree that we are. A safe and guarded life catering to the prejudices of those with progressive disposition is not anything like the freedom I think of. These people can’t just do what they want, they’re only free to sing the popular tune. Freedom would require work to survive as you clash against the natural competition born of another’s freedom. For me the mean would be the collective enforcing of the absolute smallest intersection of values required for human advancement and civilization. We’re another universe away from that right now.

          I didn’t intend to convey that you made only those arguments, you definitely didn’t which is why the comment was so interesting.

      • Thersites

        “If we remove the maniacal brainwashing of children and parents against treating a girl as a girl and a boy as a boy, and if we remove the concept of sexism from where it doesn’t belong, then people will be free to action their natural tendency.”

        That was the natural path society was one before the so-called “Progressive” movement derailed Western civilization. The voluntary segregation that Aurelius Moner talk about gave men and women a space to get away from each sex and develop their natural tendencies and understand the opposite sex. The decline of masculinity and exaggeration of worst aspects of femininity is creating the mess we see today. We have forgotten to strive for the “Golden Mean”, instead find ourselves in one extreme to another.

    • Chirho

      You’re right many people of the right turn to Islam now as a model of what how we should restructure our society. But Islam isn’t the answer the rules Islam preaches are an extreme overreaction which create their own problems as a result. The answer is found in our heratige if we can only remember it. Btw how goes your seminary studies?

      • David

        Islam is an overreaction, but maybe a bit of overreaction is needed to oscillate back to normalcy. Besides, Islam has kindly been made available here by the culture destroyers. As long as it’s here, we might as well use it for better ends, taking advantage of whatever exemptions are offered for Islam to install building blocks of a cultural renaissance.

        • Azure Helios

          Islam is just as much a trap as what we have currently, and a much harder one to get out of. What we have now is a result of apathy and slow disintegrating corruption, where Islam is a more stable, readily enforced, and somewhat more internally consistent system of beliefs that has existed for a lot longer. Clearly Islam is the fire here, where Liberality and etc are only the frying pan.

          A very wise man once wrote: “Fighting one vice with another is the most dangerous game there is. You know what happens to kingdoms that use alien mercenaries.” And I find this not only exceedingly true, but also bitingly applicable to what you’re contemplating.

        • Chirho

          Trying to use Islam for a good purpose is like trying to swing a sword holding the blade. The problem with Islam is that it is an objectively false religion, it brings with it an alien culture that will do everything it can to destroy the host culture. Which is why Islam is being imported onto our shores. The problem is that we no longer have a living culture in the west as our Christian heritage has been forced underground by the powers of ecumenical atheistic globalism. If we assert Islam as a dominant cultural force to reestablish modesty it will only result in explosive confrontations between Islam and the West, but more importantly we will snuff out our our Christian culture and replace it with a barbarous alien society that we the host country will have no control over. This is why I believe it is vitally important to bring back our native culture and the roots of our heratige which made us great. Not just the easy stuff like life, liberty, and equality that the Tradcons obsess over, but the things that made us a great people: Namely our commitment to God, Truth, & Virtue. This is what seperated our ancestors from lesser men and propelled them to create the greatest societies in the history of the world; Western Civilization.

          • Azure Helios

            Well stated.

      • Aurelius Moner

        Alas, still having trouble getting a visa into Europe. France denied my visa application (long story). I’m trying to get in via Spain, but so far my only two Spanish contacts have not panned out. If you know anybody in Spain that would be willing to help a man study for the priesthood, let me know!

        • Chirho

          Sorry to hear. Unfortunately I don’t know any Spaniards, but I will pray for you.

          • Aurelius Moner

            Thanks. That is very much appreciated, and in the end will be just as instrumental in helping me to do what I ought.

      • Daniel Freeman

        Islam is the worst. The whole point of sharia is to protect gay predators. We must put ourselves before others, like everyone else does. Deus Vult!

    • Mike Cernovich

      Thought provoking, featured for that reason.

      • Silicon Valley✈️Vet

        One’s biological sex is less of a determining factor on who are *real leaders* who command respect from what they do and ‘lesser figurehead type-leaders’ who say far more than they do. In many circles this ‘do-as I say not as I-do’ type is most often classified as a pretender. The biggest determining factor of a very successful *leader by action* is mindset.

        At Danger & Play the most successful leaders are ones that have what is called Gorilla Mindset, and something both sexes use to great advantage. The appearance that male Gorilla Mindset practitioners overtly outnumber females 7 to 1 does nothing to minimize a women’s role in successful leadership whether they are culturally segregated or not.

      • Aurelius Moner

        Thanks. And, of course, my thoughts were provoked by your own. I’d congratulate you for all the work you do, but it’s so impressive that a compliment from my peanut gallery would only be good for a laugh. Stay alive, man!

    • Lady MAGA

      Very well thought out, and written, AM. The only thing I saw that was off a bit was “Women did not go into bars or pubs”.

      In America, at least, some women (of ill repute) did go to bars to engage in ‘the oldest profession in the world’, but almost no man considered them to be girlfriend/marriage material.

      • Azure Helios

        Really, women of good repute still don’t go into bars. The ones who do are there for disreputable reasons, whether they realize and are willing to admit it or not.

        No sane guy should ever think that a girl he finds in a bar is good marriage material, it’s just naive.

        • Lady MAGA

          They do, though. Some males expect their women to dress and act immodestly else they’re not attracted to them.

          Another reason the sexes were separated was so that the males could use their time for intellectual and other self-improvement pursuits, gaining wisdom and establishing themselves before settling down with a woman who complemented them.

      • Aurelius Moner

        Good point! The exception that proves the rule…

    • gseattle

      Or we can grow up. It took me only about 15 seconds to get used to a hot chick standing full naked directly in front of me after the solstice festival in Seattle and start paying attention to what she was saying, her mind.
      Muslims would adjust without the burkas. Right now they think if they see skin they have to f— it, supposedly can’t control themselves.
      Women can stop playing the victim. Those who support victimhood can be punished/exposed.
      False accusers must do jail time, not skate free.
      We need better words. Most of the ills we see are from human’s penchant for looking down their noses at each other, the most fun game in town, we all do it. What one word can be invented to call that out when extreme like in female supremacists?

  • Isabella Shores

    In this particular case I am not sure if she actually used her gender but she definitely used the victim card. The victim card is used online by people who take much too personally the online experience. You were polite but not everyone is online and to expect otherwise is to behave like a snowflake. Who hasn’t been told their opinions suck online. Get over yourself anonymous woman who cries harassment much too quickly or get off the internet. I like the robust rough and tumble of the internet and enjoy some venues which are far more rough than Twitter. Fragile online damsels in distress really should join something more gentile for your delicate sensibilities.

  • FlorianUlrich
  • James

    It is not that the “Muslims” are right, it’s that the ancient wisdom of everyone everywhere all the time was right and the post-modern pseudo-liberal world is dead wrong. Men and women have to be well-regulated in their relationships, just like the militia has to be well-regulated, if we want people to be able to have normal healthy sex which procreates the species effectively. A well-regulated sexuality, being necessary to the survival of the human race, the right of the People to live in separation should not be infringed. Forcing social integration and pushing affirmative action for females screws up the human race, pure and simple.

  • FreedomClubUSA

    Women get this way and become unhappy forever because men fail to knock them up when they are 19-21. Instead of growing up which parenthood teaches, they all go to college not for gender studies but for gender change. The media is populated by thousands of these unhappy gender changed aging egg sacks, wasting their beauty and reproductive potential.

    • Azure Helios

      Reminds me of female cats. Apparently a lot of them, if they never have a litter of kittens, will end up with their ovaries permanently crystallized, a painful condition.

    • Daniel Freeman

      Relatedly, I thought that I needed to be mature in order to be a dad, and I had it backward. I’m now planning to knock a chick up in order to become mature.

  • ““He didn’t say anything mean.”

    “Without insulting me at all.””

    I did actually have to read it three times before I noticed those parts. Funny. I’m biased as fuck.

  • Not perfectly related, but reminds me of a recent Facebook interaction. There was a photo of some girl. She had a slightly pointed nose. Someone pointed that out. Immediately, most girls in the threat started to condemn that remark, coming up with comments like ‘A women without character is ugly’.

    So I said: Alright. If you say a pointed nose is ugly, you’re discriminating. But if you say that a woman without flaws is ugly, then it’s hip. Hah.

  • ☪rooked Hitlery Merkel

    ‘We are moving towards a gender-segregated society.’

    True, and it also happens with race.

    The point is that once the new segregation is done, men will be worse off than women were prior to feminism (ridiculed and powerless, but without a partner who feeds them), and white people will be in a position similar to black slaves – working for the rich ‘diverse’ (=non-white) elite who owns the plantation.

    Hyperbole? We have already have reached a stage where non-whites and women have a fundamental human right to top jobs and official positions, but whites and men apparently don’t.

  • Polar Girl

    If you people think you can impose Islam light on women, you have another thing coming. The misogyny and transphobia will just poison the well and lead right back to globalism. Have fun fighting globalists and their racially angry goons all on your own while being opposed by your very own white female and LGBT family members.

    Too bad you fools didn’t have at least a Nigel Farage level of wisdom. You might have still had a chance at a country.

    • 3G4Me

      The only reason entitled snowflakes like you exist is because men refused to exercise their rightful authority and rein you in. You are entirely a product of the “patriarchy” you so loath.

      “where Women reign and be in Authority, there Vanity must needs
      be preferred to Virtue, Ambition and Pride to Temperance and Modesty;
      and finally, That Avarice the Mother of all Mischief must needs there
      devour Equity and Justice.” John Knox

      • Polar Girl

        Tell that to the Muslim refugees that President Clinton (the fix is in — even Wikileaks admits it)will bring in and see what happens to your hole.

        You could have had a country if only you learned to respect even women that agree with you on the need to have a nation.

        Have fun being a lifestyle, sectarian play, submissive to Muslims.

        • 3G4Me

          Total non sequitur, devoid of logic, and incomprehensible. Besides validating my oft-repeated point to friends that most women are airheads, you had a point?

          • Polar Girl

            Like your original post is so full of logic? Lulz!!!!

          • J Enigma32

            We’ll just have hackers delete women off the voting machines…

          • Polar Girl

            Doesn’t matter. George Soros controls the machines.

          • J Enigma32

            George Soros has too many Whites and Asians on his IT team. He needs to virtue signal harder by instituting apefirmative action in his cyberdefense hires. I’m sure Shaniqua and Shitavius are more than a match against Russian hackers…

  • the Swamp Fox

    the california senate race could tear the democratic party in half, the demoncrats are running against themselves

    a lot of voters in california listen to you, you could get Loretta Sanchez in the Senate, in a divided senate every vote counts

  • Lex Luthor

    Hey Mike! You have engaged me, a minority on twitter. But in a good way. I’m a black guy who lives in NYC. My biggest inspirations are you and Victor pride. Great guys!

    I explained why I joined the Trump movement and how Democrats hate people like me. I can never reveal my identity because of how I will be crucified. And you liked my comment. It was amazing.

    I hope to have a beer with you and Victor. And as I have said. You and Victor should run for president and vp one of these days ☺️

  • Ray Manta

    befranktome wrote:
    If you can’t google, then there is no hope for you.

    If you’re a lazy person who thinks she can win an argument by sayng “look it up in Google”, there’s no hope for you. Formulate a decent rebuttal (using references if necessary) or STFU.

    But you don’t want to because you don’t want anything to infringe on your tunnel vision belief.

    No, I don’t need to be bothered to because I already have extensively researched the matter. Conclusion: women’s contribution to human mastery of the physical world and scientific/mathematical/technological knowledge is just this side of nonexistent. The very tiny percentage of outlier are irrelevant since any contributions they made would have been done by men anyway.

    if you care to expand on the subject

    Ok, might as well, since it’s a very underwhelming list. Here are a few observation

    1. Ada Lovelace for “jotting down computer algorithms?”. Is that a joke? No, she was not the first computer programmer – all the programs for the Difference Engine were prepared by Babbage.

    2. Hedy Lamarr – I note she “co-invented” Spread Systems technology with George Antheil. If she were so smart, why did she need a man’s help?

    3. Grace Hopper – designed COBOL, which is (charitably) not a masterpiece. Not fit to be mentioned in the same sentence as men such as John McCarthy, Ken Thompson, or Dennis Ritchie.

    4. Barbara Liskov – inventor of CLU. Sorry, this was not the first object-oriented language. SIMULA had it beat by 10 years.

    5. Roberta Williams, created of King’s Quest. They left out her husband. And sorry, video game design is not that significant a contribution to technology.

    6 Radia Perlman – OK, will give a nod of approval there for Spanning Tree Algorithm. Same with Jean Bartik – she managed to conceptualize subroutines.

    None of these women, I repeat none are anywhere close to geniuses like Don Knuth, Alonzo Church, John McCarthy, John von Neumann, or Alan Turing. As I said before, the tiny contributions women have made would easily have been made by men.

    • befranktome

      So you concede? Men didn’t build everything? LOL Seems by your rambling, I hit a nerve.

      • Ray Manta

        befranktome wrote:
        So you concede? Men didn’t build everything?

        No, just 99.9999% of everything. My point was that women’s contributions are miniscule, and if they hadn’t done them, men would have easily achieved them anyway. Do you have a rebuttal to that?

        LOL Seems by your rambling, I hit a nerve.

        Nope, just a topic of interest to me. I’m also interested as to why women invade male-created spaces after almost all the spadework is done.

  • Days of Broken Arrows

    This is unbelievable. You’re doing your own thing, she seeks you out, then blames you when you finally respond but she gets an undesirable result from *others.* It doesn’t occur to her that had she herself not opened the can of worms, worms wouldn’t be spilling out?! I used to think it was a form of insanity when women came to work wearing almost nothing, begging to be noticed, then complained when someone noticed. But this is even worse. It’s the online form of that sort of attention-seeking. (Edit: Make that “drama-seeking.)

  • Fail Dude

    Girl lives matter. It’s the same thing. Where is logic in all these “movements”?

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