No, Germans Didn’t Design the AK-47: Kalashnikov Conspiracy Theories and How to Refute Them, Part 1

Airbrushed Completely authentic photo of Mikhail Kalashnikov's reaction to hearing that people don't think he designed the AK-47. Don't make Mikhtim sad by spreading hateful fascist lies!

Airbrushed Completely authentic photo of Mikhail Kalashnikov's reaction to hearing that people don't think he designed the AK-47. Don't make Mikhtim sad by spreading hateful fascist lies!

We are all familiar with the standard conspiracy theories: NASA faked the Moon landing on a Hollywood soundstage, President Kennedy was shot by another gunman who was working for the CIA/the mob, all world leaders are actually reptilian aliens from Alpha Centauri, and the others. If you’re a gun person, though, there’s one other conspiracy theory you probably know: The official history that Mikhail Kalashnikov designed the AK-47 assault rifle was a Soviet hoax, propagated by state agents as a propaganda narrative to promote the idea of Soviet exceptionalism.

And I’m here to tell you that this conspiracy theory is complete bunk.

A disclaimer is in order. I am not a fan of communism, nor of the Soviet Union. My thesis here is based on the evidence, not a political agenda or narrative. I have looked at the facts as honestly as I am able, and come to a conclusion: The idea that Mikhail Kalashnikov was not responsible – in at least the usual fashion that designers are responsible for their work – for the design of the AK-47 rifle is not at all supported by fact.

Now, let’s look at some of the common arguments that crop up under the umbrella of this theory and examine why they are evidently false:

 

1. The StG-44 was the first assault rifle, so the Soviets must have copied the concept from the Germans.

A staple argument of this conspiracy theory is that the AK-47 is a similar weapon to the German StG-44, which preceded it, and therefore isn’t a Soviet product or idea. It is certainly true that the Nazi sturmgewehrs were the first truly successful assault rifle designs in the world, but the relationship between the StG-44 and AK-47 is often presented in an overly simplistic way that ignores much of the surrounding context. It follows then that, to counter this argument, we need to understand some of the context surrounding these weapons.

The idea of an assault rifle was born in several Entente countries nearly simultaneously during and immediately after World War I, as a way to give assaulting infantry the ability to counter static machine guns. There is a strong argument to be made that the CSRG Mle. 1915 Chauchat, M1918 BAR, and “Assault Phase Rifle” designed by Colonel Lewis (which was the first weapon to actually be called an “assault rifle”) all represent the earliest incarnations of the concept, even though they fire full-power ammunition. However, intermediate-caliber designs existed at the time, as well, such as the American Burton Machine Rifle, French Ribeyrolles 1918 machine carbine, and Russian Fedorov Avtomat. After the war, the idea of an “assault rifle” persisted in engineering circles, and many different intermediate rounds were developed (and one – the 7.35x50mm – even adopted in Italy) along with semiautomatic and select-fire weapons to fire them.

Therefore, the appearance of the Nazi sturmgewehrs on the battlefield in World War II was not completely unprecedented. Germany had obviously taken the concept of an assault rifle further than anyone else before, but Soviet engineers would likely have been at least aware that the concept existed previously – not the least because the old Fedorov Avtomats had actually seen action in the Winter War of 1940 and in World War II! Indeed, Vladimir Fedorov would continue working as a small arms engineer well after World War I, and he was directly involved in the mid-1940s in the effort to adopt the 7.62mm short M43 caliber (then 7.62x41mm, later 7.62x39mm).

The original 7.62x41mm caliber developed in 1943 was a precursor to the now-ubiquitous 7.62x39mm.

The original 7.62x41mm caliber developed in 1943 was a precursor to the now-ubiquitous 7.62x39mm. This round was a direct response to the German 7.92x33mm Kurz, but it preceded the invention of the AK-47 by four years.

 

This isn’t to say that the sturmgewehr didn’t make an impression on the Soviets: It’s difficult to imagine an enemy small arm that had as much impact on Soviet small arms design as the StG-44, but put into context the weapon represents more the proving out of a pre-existing idea than the introduction of something completely new.

We should also consider the Soviets’ combat experience with their own weapons. The Red Army had successfully fielded millions of PPSh-41 and PPS-43 submachine guns, sometimes to entire battalions of submachine gun-armed soldiers. This experience demonstrated that even the limitations of a submachine gun were not such a disadvantage that these weapons could not be used as universal weapons at least in some cases. From that unique vantage point, the acceptance of the assault rifle idea seems entirely natural, even without the existence of the German sturmgewehrs.

 

2. The Russians captured German engineers after the war, so it must have been Germans who invented the AK-47, not Russian engineers.

There’s a certain logic to this argument, by way of analogy to the American rocket program in the 1940s, ’50s, and ’60s. As part of Operation Paperclip in 1945, the United States captured hundreds of German scientists and engineers and put them to work wherever they could, most famously at the task of developing new rocket launch vehicles for use as military missiles. These experts became a crucial part of the later US space program, and to this day aeronautical engineer (and former member of the Nazi Party) Wernher von Braun is still the person most closely associated with the development of the Saturn family of rockets that took US astronauts to the Moon.

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Wernher von Braun is recognized as one of the chief architects of the USA’s space program after World War II. Here he is posing in front of models of some NASA rockets: Atlas-Centaur, Saturn I (unmanned and crewed), Saturn IB, and Saturn V. Before the war, von Braun was a member of the Nazi Party, and worked developing missiles for the Third Reich, most famously the V-2.

 

This history then creates the framework for a narrative where German technical experts are captured by the Soviet Union and put to work in a similar fashion – and indeed they were. However, this fact doesn’t imply that the results of Soviet post-war rearmament efforts were the products of German engineering, and in fact the evidence suggests otherwise. One of the most obvious facts is that the Russian program to develop an assault rifle was in high gear by early 1944, well before any German small arms engineers were ever captured. In fact, ten different Russian assault rifle designs competed in trials in early 1944, including designs by Tokarev (AT-44), Shpagin (ASh-44), and Sudaev (AS-44). Sudaev’s design in particular was so successful that trial quantities were ordered and the rifle saw limited service at the end of the war.

By the time German technical expertise was being incorporated in 1945-1946, they were not forming the core of a new program, but rather joining an already mature Russian design effort to develop an advanced assault rifle. In this light, the development of an assault rifle by Russian engineers seems entirely plausible, and it cannot be assumed without extremely explicit evidence that this history was created from whole cloth for propaganda purposes.

 

3. The Germans developed the advanced stamping techniques for the StG-44 that made the AK-47 possible.

It’s true that Germany was one of the biggest innovators in the field of metal stamping during World War II, but the Russians were no strangers to it, either. The aforementioned PPSh-41 and PPS-43 submachine guns were both stamped weapons made in very large quantities, and it stands to reason that the Russians would know that any new weapon designed to be made in similar quantities in the event of another world war should also be made of stampings.

One detail of special note is the substantial difference in the kind of stampings used in the AK and the StG-44. The Germans during World War II had a shortage of alloying agents like chrome and molybdenum, and one of the primary requirements for the new assault rifle was that it use as little alloy steel as possible – preferably none at all. As a result, the stamped receiver pieces of the StG-44 were made of weak mild steel sheets which were bent again and again in several operations to increase their strength, a process which gives the rifle its distinctive industrial looking ridges and bumps.

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The strengthening ridges are highly visible on the receivers of this MP.43-marked sturmgewehr. Contrast that with the very slab-sided look of the AK’s stamped receiver, below. Image courtesy of Alex C, used with permission.

 

The receiver of the AK represents a different approach to stamping. Instead of being soft iron with only a small amount of carbon, the receiver of a stamped Kalashnikov uses higher strength alloy steel (exactly what alloy is used depends on manufacturer; American AK manufacturers tend to use 4130 chromoly steel, while Izhevsk reportedly uses 30KhGSA steel for their receivers) that usually incorporates molybdenum, chromium, and silicon in the alloy. While the receiver shell of an StG-44 needs a series of complex ridges and bumps to give it strength, the receiver of an AK does not, since its strength comes from its composition more than its shape. As a result, AK receivers can be stamped in very few operations, and the rifles made more quickly.

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Note how there are no strengthening ribs or ridges on the receiver of this stamped Type 1 AK. To compensate, the receiver must be made of stronger alloy steel, but fewer operations are required for its manufacture. Image source: theakforum.net

 

This discussion of “pig iron” and “alloy steel” might give some the impression that I am being hard on the StG-44, but that’s not my point. Actually, the fact that the StG-44 did not use any valuable alloys was very beneficial to the Nazi war machine during World War II, as Germany did not have enough of these alloying agents to use for mere rifle production. Rather, the thrust is to highlight the difference between how these two weapons were made, and to drive home that “not all stamping is created equal”. From the executive summary of the Auto/Steel Partnership’s manual on high strength steel (HSS) stamping:

HSS often requires die processes different from those used for mild steels in order to achieve a quality stamping. Recent HSS studies at the Auto/Steel Partnership have shown that, in the range of 275 – 420 MPa (40 – 60 KSI yield strength), the wrong die process was a much greater contributor to poor part quality than material property variation. This includes the effects on wall opening angle, side-wall curl, offset flange angle and panel twist.

The product designer must understand the material characteristics and the proposed die process in order to produce a workable part design. Abrupt changes in part geometry and/or uneven depth of draw make HSS parts more difficult to produce.

[Emphasis mine]

The Germans gained a lot of experience in stampings from the sturmgewehrs, but not in doing the particular kind of operations that were eventually used in the AK-47 rifle. For what Kalashnikov’s design required, the Soviets would mostly have had to pave their own way.

Another reason we have to believe the stampings used to create the AK receivers weren’t significant beneficiaries of German manufacturing technology is how long they took to perfect. Consider that the Tupolev Tu-4, a Soviet copy of the American B-29 strategic bomber, took only three years to reach production from the 1944 capture of the originals. In contrast, it took Soviet engineers over a decade from the capture of German stamping equipment and expertise in 1945 to perfect the kind of alloy stamping needed for the eventual AKM. This fact leads me to believe that Soviet engineers were doing something with the AK that took a lot of innovating on their part, and not just copying work that Germans had already done.

 

There is so much ground to cover here that we really must take a break. Therefore, I’ve decided to split this post into two parts, with the second coming tomorrow. Please be patient, and stay tuned!


Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Nicholas Mew

    It still puzzles me that people believe that the Soviets copied the STG for the AK. A fine article, I look forward to the next.

    • Tom

      I think it is largely a result of the belief in Teutonic infallibility when it comes to engineering especially weapons combined with the belief that the Soviets were essentially a bunch of primitives living in a pre-industrial society.

      • iksnilol

        Well, kinda industrial. I mean, they had hammers and vodka, right?

    • Richard

      It does get really annoying when people continually pass that myth around.

    • Be FARE

      The first assault or call it a battle rifle, or just an automatic rifle, was the FEDOROV avtomat circa 1915. PERIOD.

      Now, look at the M14 – it was inspired by Fedorov. The same look, the same concept. It is obvious. The Russians designed the first assault rifle. The Russians invented the concept. So, a discussion should start from this: the Germans adopted the concept of an automatic rifle from the Russians, as did the Americans with their BAR, and all the others.

      The Fedorov Avtomat was used in the WWI, and in the Winter War so it indeed was the first successful assault rifle.

  • GD Ajax

    The Nazi’s invented the AK-47? Dumb ass wehraboos must be getting desperate these days.

    • Der Fuhrer’s Furor

      The AK was based off of the Stg44- the J#w Bolshie media would like everyone to believe otherwise. Nathaniel F now gets a cookie for being a good little tool.

      • Kevin Harron

        ^Dumbass wehraboo^ as mentioned above.

  • Spike

    Given how the Germans like to over engineer everything, how could the crude (sorry Mikhail) AK be mistaken for anything other than Russian?

    • Tritro29

      AK’s became crude because the GRAU wanted them cheap and under the production tempo of a Mosin (12 hours). That’s why it took 10 years to perfect. If the Paranoid people at the helm would have been more lenient, you could have a better universal rifle based on a different design with a better recoil management, ergonomics and probably a better sight system. But Uncle Joe and American military leadership taught us that quantity and logistics are the two hands you need to win anything. So we went with crude.

      • Renato H. M. de Oliveira

        But Uncle Joe and American military leadership taught us that quantity and logistics are the two hands you need to win anything

        Nazis (initially) had far more quality than anyone else could possibly manage to achieve. Their logistics also were second to none.

        Thankfully, they couldn’t couple such high quality and good logistics with the numbers necessary to crush the Allies. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f59c640da1a8a439c4d2673ae9ee93d3e240a05d6d543f335bfc815e32cf0c39.jpg

        • codfilet

          Good german logistics? They were still using mass amounts of horses in 1944, when we were moving our ammo, gas and food with a flood of 2 1/2 ton 6×6 trucks. So were the Soviets, with lend-lease Studebakers.

          • Renato H. M. de Oliveira

            They started the war using trains. By 1944 the Allies had all but crushed their railroads. They had no choice but to use horses.

          • codfilet

            No, they were using horses right from the start in 1939. They had small quantities of trucks, but they were too small, and not 6×6.

          • Kivaari

            Lots of horses in the ’39 invasion of Poland.

          • Klaus Von Schmitto

            Absolutely correct. During the course of the war, the Germans went through over 2.5 million horses. They lost nearly 150,000 at Stalingrad alone.

          • Tritro29

            Nope Germans were using horses since forever. Train logistics are at Brigade level at best.

          • Der Fuhrer’s Furor

            It also took a 20M man armed contingent to defeat only 6M brave men of the Reich in their battle against the same International J#w banking cabal that enslaves the world in debt to this very day. “We fought the wrong side”- General George S Patton.

          • codfilet

            Well, I do think we should not have fought against Germany. Too bad they declared war on us first.

          • Der Fuhrer’s Furor

            England declared war on Germany initially

          • Kivaari

            Germany invaded Poland. The UK had a treaty with Poland that should they be invaded the British would declare war on the aggressor nation. Germany started it all. Filthy German fascists.

          • Klaus Von Schmitto

            The Soviet Union invaded Poland 16 days after the Germans did. Somehow we forget that about our glorious Bolshevik allies.

          • Tritro29

            And France, UK and Italy accepted German occupation of Spain, Austria and even partitioned Czechoslovakia, that too we tend to forget about our glorious colonialist allies. Blame game.

          • CapeMorgan

            Germany never occupied Spain. Just stop. You are making a fool of yourself.

          • Tritro29

            Germany came illegally in defense of Franco, they were illegally occupying the territory of the Spanish Republic backing the golpists. Yes, I know they don’t teach history anymore in Potatoland, but you should try it.

          • Frank Martin

            Don’t forget.. Germany and the Soviet Union had a Non-aggression pact before Poland.. It was Germany who broke that agreement in 1941

          • MPWS

            Poland was not entirely innocent either. Poland as ‘new nation’ was created after WWI by international council (GB, US and France) out of nothing on formerly German territory. Yet, Polish were not satisfied and were issuing threat to Germany (famous was their military leader Smiglo, who claimed that they will be on horses in 3 weeks in Berlin). In addition, Germany was not satisfied either since their demand to create “corridor to Danzig” was not headed.

            There was ongoing conflict in Upper Silesia since 1920s at which Germans managed to defend their territory against Polish expansion. This and British assurances of assistance (largely unmaterialized) all played into tense situation. At he end it was Germany who took initiative with tragic results for all of Europe.

          • Education

            Judea declared war on Germany first. And all of what followed was just a planned operation of restructuring the world, and the main objective was to create the state of Israel.

            Hitler was a Zionist puppet. And so was Stalin. And the so-called allies. All of them.

            American Zionist bankers financed both the Soviet “revolution” and the Nazi movement. President Truman was a 33 degree Freemason. All the big commies were Freemasons, too.

          • Kivaari

            We don’t need any NAZI pukes here. It wasn’t just Germans fighting. It involved millions of Italians, Romanians, Finns, Hungarians, Bulgarians all on the eastern front.

          • iksnilol

            Now you’re just making the folks i dislike into a rainbow brigade.

            Too bad about Hungary. Kinda liked it, too bad it went to crap in the last years. Eeeh, who cares? I got some brandy and other problems to take care of.

          • Kivaari

            We made the Soviets allies to defeat the filthy Germans. Sure the Soviets were an enemy in waiting, but at the moment it was the Germans and their allies that needed defeating. Why did the Soviets get all of eastern Europe? Well, they were all german allies and they had to fight all those armies as well. Did it work out well for the /West? NO. But we killed the German menace.

          • Klaus Von Schmitto

            “they were all german allies” Do you mean countries like Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia that the Soviet Union invaded simply to acquire territory and enslave their populations?

          • Tritro29

            Tell me what was Poland 20 years prior WW2? A partitioned land. From that perspective, i find it pretty interesting that suddenly Germans start talking about sovereign countries, while we gave them up after WW1. Not that I advocate to get them back, bunch of white Talibans, more backwards than a Medieval cart. Fun fact, it was OK to let Austria and Czechoslovakia be partitioned (including a piece that went to Poland) but god Forbid the Soviet did that. Meanwhile the US had just absorbed Hawaii and rejected 5 years in a row Philippine’s independence vote. Funny how you Germans become all peace loving doves once you’ve been beaten to the pulp. Crap like this, makes me think it was a good thing the US got to win, at least they can pretend to defend democracy their own unique way.

          • Klaus Von Schmitto

            I’m not German, I’m an American of Austrian descent.

          • Tritro29

            It’s actually even worse.

          • Klaus Von Schmitto

            Blow me, commie.

          • Tritro29

            Not a commie my Nazi friend, your stereotyping is blinding you.

          • Klaus Von Schmitto

            And I can’t imagine why you would think I’m a Nazi when all I have done is pointed out that on the whole, Stalin and his Soviet Union perpetrated crimes against peace just as Nazi Germany did. But that’s politics – have a nice day.

          • Tritro29

            Crimes against peace? Interbellum period was a big huge crime against sanity, let alone peace. I don’t care which side you bite anyway, you’re being emphatically defensive for someone not keen to Germans. Also i was just reverting your remark, nothing personal.

          • iksnilol

            G-ddamn Austrians… YOU CREATED THE GLOCK YOU SONS OF WOMEN!

          • iksnilol

            What if I say neither was OK?

            Like, what if? I know, crazy, right?

          • Tritro29

            And you’d be right. 100%. However it doesn’t matter, what was right or wrong here, what matters is the revisionist history the Germans keep harping about. Facts are clear, the end of WW1 made the Interwar period very complicated. We were among the only people who actually didn’t plunder Germany after it was beaten while we would have had all the incentives to do so as they all but dismantled the Empire at Brest Litovsk. Hell without the Soviet exports and imports the German Weimar Republic would have been done for since 1926. From that moment and while the world went to the gutter for 10 long years since the Black Thursday in 1929. Blame the Bolsheviks for actually doing the best thing to defend themselves albeit it was cruel, and criminal.

          • iksnilol

            History is a cruel mistress just like that. I mean, what can you do about it? Less than nothing. Me? I got some brandy and a report to finish and despite being unrelated to history we’re talking about now, is just as close to the history I am going to get… barring any eventual time travel, but that’s what you get for existing almost a 100 years after the party.

          • Tritro29

            The only thing one can do is know it and accept it, not as a personal insult but as a fact. Once you consider it as something that doesn’t harm you personally, then you can talk about it without hurting too much. Fact is that many Russians will admit guilt the moment every one steps forward and does the same. It’s as simple as that.

            Back to the topic, I put a link about two hours ago about the development of the Soviet Avtomat in Russian, check the page when it will be allowed. I promise you will have material to read about.

          • iksnilol

            Good idea, comrade… Still feel i oughta finish my chemistry report first.

          • CapeMorgan

            You really need to stop and just stick with comments regarding guns. Your grasp of history is skewed and obviously biased towards a Stalinist perspective. For example, you forget that the Soviet Union was essentially in a civil war and could not have interfered with Germany anyway. They did try to annex Polish territory after WW2, how convenient for you to forget that. And you always seem to blame democracies when the Soviets annexes territories to create their Soviet empire…including the Baltic Republics, the annexation of Finnish territory and the Asian Soviet Republics,,,areas annexed by force. Calling Poles ‘White Taliban” is bigoted, but of course you know that, that is how you were taught. BTW, the Philippines are a free country, yet the Soviets ethnic cleansing still exists in areas like Konigsberg and Bessarabia and others. Good Day Comrade.

        • Kivaari

          Germany was dumber than a spruce stump. They started a war they could not win. They never had enough fuel and manufacturing capacity to invade both west and than east. Absolute stupid planning. No one smart enough or brave enough in the German Army to tell Hitler that there was no way in hell they could reach Baka without over running the logistics train and especially the fuel supply.
          German engineering is overrated. German prioritizing its weapons was so screwed up they wasted billions of Marks on building weapons that were used once or never. Tanks that couldn’t even move themselves up slight hill sides. Tank wiring the mice ate. They never had the manufacturing capacity IN Germany to carry out the war. They needed the occupied masses and slave labor to make an inadequate supply of armaments. FUEL was Hitlers goal. He needed Ploesti and Baka to carry out his invasion of Russia. Foolish over reach. German logistics, like the supply train feeding the starving 6th Army at Stalingrad.

          • Renato H. M. de Oliveira

            I stand corrected.
            Thanks for the info and insight.

    • Kivaari

      The STGW is crude. An AK more refined.

  • Max Müller

    In august 1945 the red army was given Thüringen in germany by the us army. They directly went to Suhl and took 50 Stgw’s as well as 10785 technical drawings with them for scientific research.
    In october 45 Hugo Schmeisser was forced into “technical service” for the red army. His comission had one job: to research german weaponry and make it production ready for russia asap.
    24 october 1946 he and other captured german weapon engineers were brought to Ischewsk, where the Ischmasch factory is located since 1807. He was captured untill july 1952, even longer than all other germany weapon engineers who returned home in january.
    The designer of the Stgw was sitting in the factory that produced the AK when it was developed. Kalashnikov definetly did his own part and design elements, but you can’t honestly deny the german influences. A good part of their work was to convert the german design into something that can be easier and cheaper manufactured with what the russians had.

    Sources:
    Norbert Moczarski: Die Ära der Gebrüder Schmeisser in der Waffenfabrik Fa. C. G. Haenel Suhl 1921–1948. Ein weitgehend unbekanntes Kapitel Suhler Industriegeschichte. In: Hildburghausen: Jahrbuch des Hennebergisch-Fränkischen Geschichtsvereins. S. 237–268. 1999.

    Norbert Moczarski: Zwischen Tabu und Legende. Der weltbekannte Suhler Waffenkonstrukteur Hugo Schmeisser (1884–1953). Suhler Reihe Nr. 29, Suhl 2009, 72 Seiten

    • Tritro29

      … And there’s the other problem. the AK”46″ which was closer in technical layout to German design than the product that we see today, was REJECTED! Instead the Bulkin AB46 was kept as a strong hand for victory and the second was a Bullpup rifle from German Korobov (ZOMG his name is German) which would have been a bridge too far for the USSR. If anything, the German designs that were kept relied all on two major influences, Holek and Vollmer which were both completely different from the guns that were brought forth by the Soviet designers from 1944 to 1952. Germans don’t want to let this die, however the Stg 44 legacy didn’t exactly morphed into a Germanized AK, quite ironically it became the STG-45 that was developed into a slightly antiquated but perfectly serviceable system today known as the G3. Fact is that the Germans did not relied on the Voller SG’s or MK’s. They went straight for Holek’s system to build their MKb42. It’s sad that you can’t leave this be while the Americans that know MK borrowed from the Garand, couldn’t care less.

      • Bulkin’s influence is often overstated, I think. It’s clear the AB-46 influenced the AK-47, but the latter certainly was not a copy.

        • Tritro29

          You get my point. If we have to call “dibs” on the AK design, then Bulkin has more of a chance than the STG’s design team. Hell Garand would have a better chance than Schmeisser.

    • Kevin Harron

      There is some evidence that he did nothing but drink. Schmiesser was not happy working for the Germans.

      • Klaus Von Schmitto

        Germans? or Russians?

        • Kevin Harron

          Sorry Russians. Not awake yet

    • Youtube’s Best Channel

      I saw a document according to which Hugo Schmeisser tried to sue the Soviets because they had stolen his design without proper royalties. I’ll try to find it and link it later if I do.

      • He felt he was underpaid for his work, but other sources suggest he got paid less because he wasn’t really doing any work.

        • When you mention Schmeisser in the article, could you link sources? I keep hearing about his involvement but nobody seems to have a source to his involvement.

          • Yeah, I’ll source where I can. Honestly, not that much is available on Schmeisser’s time at Izhevsk… Possibly because he didn’t do much there.

    • Oh, we’ll get to Schmeisser in Part 2. Don’t worry.

  • Isaac Newton

    Since you mentioned the reciever so much, It may have been worthwhile to mention the durability (not strength) problems of the early sheet metal receiver AK47 that necessitated switching to a machined receiver and only after circling back on material and rivet design was Mr. Kalashnikov able to get a sheet metal receiver to work in the AKM (circa 1957).

    • Tritro29

      Actually it wasn’t MK, but the team in Tula which handled the experimental work. And it wasn’t 1957, but 1952. Durability is based on how strong the sheet was to begin with. The Chinese went straight to the point when they adopted an RPK-thick receiver (1.5mm) instead or the initial 1mm attempted by the USSR to avoid the whole issue.

    • Kevin Harron

      There is a part two coming. Nate has more to say.

    • I might add a section later.

  • Are there any countries that have screwed up the Kalashnikov rifle more than India and the United States?

    • Klaus Von Schmitto

      Maybe Zimbabwe but it would be close.

    • Joseph Goins

      Well, only two perfected it: Finland and Israel. I guess it makes since that only two screwed it up.

      • iksnilol

        Eh, Galil is meh, it practically weighs as a PKM.

      • B@@@@, Please…

        Yugoslavian AK’s were the best. And they are still making them. Zastava M70

        • Joseph Goins

          Negative. Valmut and Galil

  • Will P.

    On top of that many of the first AKs were milled relievers. It was obvious the German Gerat 06H influence on the CETME/G3 rifles and pretty well any of the early HK rifles. There are some other German concept rifles that you can tell may have had some influence on the AK though, but there are so many differences it’s really hard to even say that. If anything the only real influence I see is that of the 8mm Kurz cartridge.

    • Kivaari

      The Russians even had .22 caliber “assault rifle” cartridges before WW2.

      • iksnilol

        Heavens, no!

  • Walter J Shields

    Partial credit goes to John Browning. Remington model 8 1906 to 1911. Look at that receiver.

    • Tritro29

      … Selector was chosen because it was easier to work with, the receiver was nowhere near the same.

      • Walter James Shields

        Right side charging handle. Safety selector impeding the bolt traveling back, the overall shape of the receiver is virtually the same. I said partial credit. No the whole receiver is not the same. But pretty close.

        • Tritro29

          Right side charging handle was a staple of military selfloaders, check the Mondragon, the Madsen and a lot of similar ideas around the early 20th century. Overall shape of the receiver? What the initial receiver was stamped. The Remington or Winchester self-loaders were milled. Selector and selector system works beyond the Model 8. But there’s no doubt it was taken at least visually from there.

  • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

    Some people *cough* HK Fanboys *cough* cant acknowledge that good firearms have been made by people other than Germans.

    • Klaus Von Schmitto

      There’s a huge difference between “quality” and “serviceable”. It’s hard to compare quality between the worst H&K and the best AK ever.

      • Tritro29

        You put an H&K G3 and a Valmet 83 side by side…I guarantee you, you’re going to cry. I’m not even getting into Sig’s business.

        • Klaus Von Schmitto

          I’ll concede the Valmet was a very, very well made weapon. Sigs are a different story.

          • Tritro29

            You don’t need to concede anything, I’ll be taking the initiative. Now go bloat about AR-15 copies.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    That most people can’t tell the difference between the StG 44 and the AK-47 is pretty strong evidence that the AK-47 was a ripoff of the StG 44. And since the Soviets were widely known to be liars and history revisionists, trusting their official narrative about anything is pretty stupid. The Soviets despised the Nazis. They’d never admit in a million years that the AK-47 was based on the StG 44 and worked on by captured Nazi engineers.

    • Joseph Goins

      So your evidence is a general distrust of the official history?

      • A Fascist Corgi

        Soviet records are about as accurate as Nathaniel’s calorie tracker.

    • iksnilol

      Yeah, but explain this: If AK was ripoff of STG, wouldn’t they share mechanical similarity? I mean, their internals are nothing alike.

      • Kevin Harron

        But mah wehraboo dreams. It has a similar outline so it HAZ to be a copy. amIrite?

        • iksnilol

          Basically. Sadly my theory of the M16 being a ripoff of the M56 SMG had yet to gain traction despite the staggering similarity (identical mag curve, small caliber for the time, a barrel + trigger, a magwell, non wooden furniture).

          *Shrug*

    • Do you think oranges are closely related to baseballs, too?

      • A Fascist Corgi

        I’ve never seen anyone confuse a baseball with an orange. In comparison, almost everyone thinks that the StG 44 and the AK-47 are variants of the same rifle.

        • Kevin Harron

          Anyone who thinks that is very ignorant.
          Or a wehraboo. More likely they are a wehraboo.

  • MPWS

    Eventually – justice done. Although this was evident to me on basis of simple rationale from start, eventually it was said. Unfortunately, it appears to be the antagonism toward Russians behind this and excessive credit to Germans is/ was the diving engine.

    Regarding material and its application used on receiver I can say something from my own experience in field of small arms. I was once facing task to work at alternate method of welding receiver and action components for a version of Minimi. The main motivation was to reduce heat input which occurs during original method as was produced at the time by FN (I do not know how is produced currently and what progress, if any took place).

    Part of this effort was also dealing with sheet metal stampings suppliers. They wanted (very explicitly) besides of widest tolerances possible, material with lowest contents of carbon and this is very understandable – for lowest amount of spring-back. During consultations it was deemed that ASTM/ANSI C 1018 would be adequate choice of steel at the time; definitely NOT alloy steel.

  • Jay

    Good article and explains all sides of the process that lead to the AK47.
    1. the cartridge existed already in the red army
    2. Russians had tons of experience with full power ‘assault rifle” and after solid testing decided on an intermediate cartridge
    3. Tactics. The red army was employing entire units armed with “avtomat” (SMGs).
    4. lots of local assault rifle designs appeared in the period immediately before AK47 was selected, and the development of those started long before the Russians had German blueprints and designers.
    5. The actual AK-47 works completely different from the German STG and parts of it’s design can be traced back to local designs.

    The Russians got there on their own. There’s a lot more Sturmgewehr present in the M16 than in the AK47. That’s a fact.

  • MPWS

    Regarding sheet metal used be Soviets at various previous mentioned designs (PPD, PPSh and PPS) it is clear and VERY obvious that they mastered this technique well before commencement of production of AK. If there was more of less stiffening ribs used is an immaterial issue for purpose of the principle of the subject.

    Simply put, the knew it well enough which is proved by fact of millions of produced weapons in harsh circumstances is reasonably sufficient quality – with or without captured Germans.

  • Joseph Goins

    This topic always aggravates me. It’s like saying the Vz58 is an AK variant. The AK-47 designers definitely had samples of the StG44, but they didn’t copy it. There is more evidence that the AR-15 was copied from the StG44 because of the dust cover.

    • nadnerbus

      Yeah, I never saw it. I mean, other than being primarily stamped, cut down case size, and the same general layout (that most rifles of the type share), they really don’t have much in common.

    • HB

      One more thing; when Stoner made AR-15 prototype, he used StG44’s recoil spring. Even today both guns’ recoil springs are considerably similar in dimension.

    • Indeed. That’s one of the major reasons I am writing these posts, that way when someone pops up spewing this BS, you can just link them. 🙂

  • Richard

    Another thing to remember is that AK has a long stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt while the STG44 has a short stroke gas piston and a tilting bolt.

    • Tritro29

      STG has a long stroke gas piston lifted from the ZB 26 and reversed.

      • Richard

        My mistake, I fixed the error.

  • McThag

    Last time people were beating this dead horse…

    Engineering stuff has a style. Different engineers and do things differently and it affects the appearance. As they teach younger engineers, this becomes a company’s or factory’s style too.

    The AK simply looks like what the Soviets would make and not like what a German would.

    But the magazine… The mag doesn’t look like what Kalashnikov would have designed, and it does look more German.

    I am also fascinated that we’re taking the Russian records at their word after so many decades of them flat lying about everything regarding industry and invention. Are we Democrats to be so gullible?

    • Tritro29

      Magazine was designed after Sudaev’s pattern and was mixed up with many models. Sudaev’s mag bears some similarity with the Charlton AR.

    • Also, why does the mag not look like a Kalashnikov design? Keep in mind, we should be talking about the original slab sided deals, here. Those don’t look terribly German to me.

  • Dermott Smyth

    I’m 100% Irish, born in England, British citizen, came when I was 6 to US. At about 11 years of age we were playing war, killing Germans.
    My father fought with the RAF in WWII. He hated war.
    He sat us all down a few weeks later and explained that as much as it was Germans who turned to the Nazis, we in the US and or England could have easily become Nazis as well. He said fight the Nazis, not the Germans. I thought at the time he was nuts.
    Took awhile (years) for that to sink in.
    He had a hard time with me when I joined the Army in 1969.

    Today as I see America turning to Amerika, I am convinced he was a lot smarter than I ever thought of being, and him with a 7th grade education and me with a Masters.

    I miss America, warts, failures, lies, deceit and all.

    • iksnilol

      What’s the difference between the c and k? I mean, it’s more logical to write it with a k but y’all have a messed up pronounciation of c.

      • “Amerika” is the German spelling (and other languages, too).

        • iksnilol

          Ah, just weird seeing that being politicized. Thanks for the info 🙂

  • Anonymoose

    Don’t forget the newest conspiracy theory: Hillary Clinton has been dead for months and has been replaced by a hologram.

  • Mark M

    I love this article because it includes a ton of technical detail and history. Can the author recommend any books or sources that discuss this subject?

  • Ron

    From more of a design engineers POV: when I see how something is done (and done well), I “catalogue” it in my brain in case I’ll ever need it again for a different project. To me, the same can be said for AK-47 designers. Take the best concepts from what is available, and incorporate it into your design. In this case, the soviets had the StG-44 to study (along with other designs) to study.

  • James

    Seriously? “NASA faked the Moon landing on a Hollywood soundstage”.

    Didn’t you see the documentary ‘Capricorn One’ with OJ? derp