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submitted by niahviv
Hi,
So this all started a couple months ago.
The family switched to a new internet provider after moving. The first provider, Verizon, was in my mother's name. However, after switching providers and reading the very first bill from the second company, Frontier, I noticed that it was addressed to me. After confronting my mother (and calling her out on a lie or two), she finally admitted that she not only used my name, but my SSN and other personal information in the account.
So of course this got me a little suspicious, so I checked my credit score on that website creditkarma (lied about my birth year, but everything else was correct). The website gave me a report which stated that I had 5 credit cards, dating as far back as 2011, under my name along with a credit score of 648. After looking at the names/companies of the card, it is very clear to me that these are my mother's (I have seen them in person), and I have no doubt that this has been her doing.
I also know that years ago (when I was around 7-9 years old), a Verizon account for my family was under MY name and was closed during a bankruptcy in 2008. Not sure any of my other info was there. Not sure if this is important.
My main concern about handing this problem is that I am underage. My preference would be to handle this when I move out at 18 in order to prevent any retaliation from her, but I am scared that things like this are time-sensitive and I have to report this ASAP. Should I bring this problem up today or should I wait? I also would like to know how long it may take to fix this, and how it may affect me in 1-2 years when student loans come into play.
Thank you.
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[–]5426742 2931 points2932 points2933 points  (285 children)
Axton Betz-Hamilton is an assistant professor at Eastern Illinois University that is doing research on child identity theft and family financial abuse. She had her identity stolen by her mother and might be a good resource for you. Her email address and a phone number are available on the university website.
[–]ghpkhg 121 points122 points123 points  (10 children)
Well, I've actually had this exact thing happen. My dads full name and mine are the same, so he used my name on a lot of accounts.
When I got out of college was the first time my credit score really mattered, so when I applied for a loan, I was very surprised that I had terrible credit.
I had a Direct TV account that was never paid opened when I was 7
Maxed Credit Card-when I was 12
A FUCKING BANKRUPTCY
and some other minor things.
Basically, it took a fully dedicated year to get most of it removed. Most annoying thing that has even happened in my life.
It was bittersweet to get the things removed from my credit score, because, basically, I had to rat out my parents if I wanted it to leave my credit score.
You can dispute claims through credit karma, but it takes 45 days for claim. Sometimes there is an 'error' with your dispute and you have to wait 45 days to get that message lmao
My Advice: kill the people responsible start now on credit karma and use their 'dispute a claim'
Edit: I should add that I'm from a small town that has paper files, so some of the stuff, like the bankruptcy, is just from the credit reporters not understanding paper-files. The blatantly-not-me things were the easiest to get removed.
[–]EastSideTilly 27 points28 points29 points  (3 children)
My dad is a dumb criminal and actually ASKED if he could use my social for a pyramid scheme thing. I, of course, flipped out and destroyed all his written copies of my SS.
What the fuck, dad. What the fuck.
[–]zhentarim_agent 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
How long ago was this? This is concerning. Are you sure you destroyed anywhere he has your SSN written? Have you done a credit check to make sure he hadn't already opened accounts?
[–]DeadNotSleeping1010 [score hidden]  (0 children)
Replying so I can look into this later. I think my dad did something similar years ago. I haven't had any problems with my credit, but that doesn't mean my identity isn't compromised. Thanks for the link! It will be handy if it turns out my SSN was stolen/purchased from a shady scheme my dad fell victim to.
[–]mimibrightzola 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
Why can't they put fucking limitations on ss age when opening an account?
[–]this_is_my_new_acct 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
I have credit card from before I was born and when I was a very young child (still open) according to Experian. They're my parent's, but I never contested them because they're paid off every month.
[–]Lepke 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
Smart parents will add their children to cards when they're young to build their credit history. Probably what yours did. Starting adult life with a good credit score saves you quite a bit of money.
[–]scarymoon [score hidden]  (0 children)
I got lucky in a similar way; my dad and my names are the same, and the bureaus mixed it up so that some of his accounts are on my report(a couple credit cards from around/before I was born, and an auto loan[although idk why this is on there, I thought they came off your report once they were paid off? Idk]).
He's always very good with his credit and is up there amongst the more financially responsible people I know(both in real life, and online), so they're all in good standing and have only helped me. But in theory, if they were in bad standing, it would've been easier for me to fix since it was just a mixed identity rather than actually being in my name, so no need for police or anything.
[–]Qel_Hoth [score hidden]  (0 children)
Smart parents will add their children to cards when they're young to build their credit history.
I can't think of any way to open a CC in a child's name without committing fraud...
So no. Smart parents don't do that.
[–]Sam-Gunn 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Hmm, your advice seems quite reasonable.
[–]Banevasionalt1000 623 points624 points625 points  (93 children)
Identity theft is hell to fix. Immediately contact the three credit bureaus and get your credit frozen. Then you will need to contact each company who has a account open under your name via certified mail and inform them of what's going on. Next you will need to submit a request to each credit bureau for each account to have them removed.
Go pull your credit history first so you can get a list of accounts you need to close along with the ones you know about.
[–]Thedirtyjersey 146 points147 points148 points  (82 children)
Isn't it against policy and law in some cases to provide any of that to an underage person?
[–]TehOncomingStorm 239 points240 points241 points  (71 children)
Yes, that would be the case if he wasn't the account holder. This solution is the "I'm not going to the police and sending my mother to prison for fraud" route. It's not perfect, but he could get it done with the right documentation.
[–]haabenshaaben 131 points132 points133 points  (67 children)
What if I wanted to send my mother to prison for fraud?
Also, how do I find out all the things she has in my name?
Edit: I'm really worried my mother's doing something similar. I've thought so for a while but I didn't know the consequences it would have for me till now. I have no idea how to find out what she's doing exactly.
[–]TehOncomingStorm 100 points101 points102 points  (56 children)
First you go to the police and report the fraud. Credit card fraud is usually handled by the FBI, but regular police will do. There are many ways to check your credit, even for free! If you check your credit with an app like (credit karma) you can see all open accounts in your name. Again, it's not perfect, but nothing really is. There's probably someone out there more knowledge than me as well on this.
EDIT: Okay, go to the police SECOND. I'd probably do some investigation to make sure you aren't making a false claim.
[–]haabenshaaben 25 points26 points27 points  (0 children)
Yeah, I have to make sure she's actually doing all this first.
[–]haabenshaaben 10 points11 points12 points  (53 children)
I'm trying to sign up for Credit Karma.
It says I need my social security number.
I don't know what it is. How do I find out?
And should I give them my actual age (16)?
[–]MrLeb 13 points14 points15 points  (36 children)
Your SSN is what ties you to your identity. Everyone has one, your parents would have it. Should be on a card with your name
[–]haabenshaaben 22 points23 points24 points  (35 children)
I asked my mother for my social security number recently and she said I didn't need to know it.
[–]FallionFawks 39 points40 points41 points  (1 child)
Once you turn 18 you ought to already have it memorized. My parents made me memorize mine when I was early teens.
You definitely need to know it.
[–]saviourman 23 points24 points25 points  (6 children)
Pretend you're applying for a job. Or actually apply for a job and get it that way.
[–]NeedsNewPants 14 points15 points16 points  (10 children)
Tell her you are applying to a scholarship for university or something. Or if you think you know where it is sneak it out when she's not there.
[–]haabenshaaben 17 points18 points19 points  (9 children)
I don't know where it is. I am actually going to apply for college soon and I will need financial aid. I could start the application now. Could that be a way of getting it?
[–]tdlop 25 points26 points27 points  (8 children)
That's basically confirmation that she's doing something shady.
[–]x1xHangmanx1x 5 points6 points7 points  (14 children)
Be as honest to the credit website as you can. You can weasel your SSN out of your parents by filling out a school form or something and offhandedly asking her. Only thing is, a school has no reason to ask for that information past enrollment. So here's an ace in the hole. Get a job application or begin filling one out online. First page, every damn time, they want your social. You literally need it to work and most places you need it to clock in. So if you're over 16 and can fake getting a job, you have an awesome cover story about why you need that SSN. If all else fails. It's yours. That number was given to you by the state upon birth. You bore that number longer than your baby blanket. There is no reason for her not to give you a copy or let you memorize the number. I could see her not wanting you to lose the card itself, but there's something shady going on if she's hiding your finances from you.
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
[–]wef1983 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
Not to be overly nitpicky but I work in law enforcement and would seriously question your statement that credit card fraud is normally handled by the FBI. Do you have a source for that?
[–]lysergic_gandalf_666 40 points41 points42 points  (1 child)
On the other hand, the account being held by someone under 18 is invalid in the first place.
No payment need be made. The contract was never signed by an adult (at least not an adult account holder). The account is bogus. However, by opening these accounts, the mom is guilty of criminal fraud.
[–]Grande_Latte_Enema 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
send her to jail she deserves it
[–]BlueOak777 58 points59 points60 points  (6 children)
And every credit bureau's response will be the same. "please send in a police report of the incident". They're not just going to take your word for it.
The angle to play is that he is a minor and cannot even sign a legally binding contract. He needs to send in proof of his birth certificate to the credit card companies and they will cancel that shit real quick. Then he can get a letter from them and send it all in to the credit bureau's. They may still want a police report tho.
[–]blissfully_happy 11 points12 points13 points  (2 children)
My identity was stolen and I could not obtain a police report (weird jurisdictional issues). For the most part, the creditors and credit bureaus were willing to work with me without. (There were a few I gave up on a fixing however.)
[–]mipe81 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
But he is a minor, isn't he? Don't banks and such institutions ask for a minor's guardian for these dealings?
[–]wlxr 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Well for starters you can't accrue debt as a minor in the US which is where I'm assuming you live. Also sue the fuck out of her the day you turn 18. I had this happen to me as a kid and didn't do that and I regret it now.
[–]Maov 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Do you have property or deposits in your name too?
[–]DrunkenGolfer 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
The bottom line is that your mom is in the wrong and it may be harming you. That is unacceptable and you should correct it. In this case, you need to be the adult and teach your mom a difficult life lesson. She'll be angry, she'll be hurt, but she'll still be wrong.
If it were me, I would tell my mother she has 60 days to fix this mess. She is your mother after all, and desperate people do desperate things, often with the best interest of their kids in mind. She can move accounts to her own name or close them. You no longer have the risk and you walk away with a 648 score and intact familial relationships. After the 60 days, you take matters into your own hands and start correcting the credit reports by providing proof of birth date. Provided your mother has settled all debts before closing the accounts, nobody will bother with an action for fraud - they will simply correct your credit report. If the debts are not settled, the fraud will likely trigger some issues but that is not your responsibility - it is your mother's.
I suspect your mom will be unable to resolve all debts. There is a reason why she is using your credit, and it is probably because she is living beyond her means and ruined her own credit.
[–]my_random_thots 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
This has been said already, but just to emphasize it, I would deal with things NOW.
Post to /r/legaladvice, ask for some state and identify theft specific advice. Seek out legal help, assistance from the bank and credit bureaus, anyone you think might be helpful.
As someone who works at a university, I want to add that if you ha e a school nearby (college, uni, etc) they can be a wonderful resource. My uni has a HUGE library staffed with incredible, brilliant people, and it's connected to other libraries and resource centers across the country. The professors here are amazing. We have friends with multiple doctorates, who love nothing more than to talk about their areas of expertise.
If you can access a university, seek out the finance and business department, a world of advice awaits you. They teach and help for a living, they WANT to make life better for people your age. Heck, you might find your issues resolved, a paper written about some obscure thing that popped up along the way, and a new interest that lands you in the registrars office when it's all over.
Best of luck. What your mom did is awful, but not unfixable. Hopefully your relationship will ride out the storm and everything comes out okay in the end. The number one thing IMHO, though, is to take care of yourself.
[–]BoardofEducation 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I don't have any words or wisdom or advice but I did have a roommate who dealt with this same thing and it really caused him an unbelievable amount of stress.
He was denied anything that required a credit check, including the apartment itself. His mother had to co-sign on the lease because his father had used his identity to accumulated significant debt and it wrecked his credit score.
Among other things, he couldn't be the account holder of the electric bill (national grid), he didn't get approved for his cell phone plan, he couldn't get a bank loan when his car broke down. etc etc. etc. I wish the best of luck and its probably good that you're thinking about it now.
[–]vcthemc 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Do not wait to handle this. The longer you wait the more the problem compounds. Your mother has stolen your identity and to me it seems like it's more than likely because she has a rocky financial past (you mentioned a bankruptcy) and she is using your name to hide her past. the problem is that unless she's making significantly more money now, or has changed the way she handles money, or both (which I highly doubt all of) then she's just going to do to you what she did to yourself and your credit score will be dragged through the mud. If you don't get on top of this and were planning on going to school and needed loans depending on the extent of the damage she's already done that might not happen.
Call the 3 bureaus and freeze your credit and see if they can offer some guidance as to what you can do regarding your existing credit history. Call the institutions that have issued cards and let them know your identity has been stolen and that you would like those cards cancelled. Call your bank and talk to a financial adviser.
[–]TutsMcgree 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Yes, that is a huge fucking issue. I'm so sorry, you have a lot of work ahead of you to clear your name.
[–]PointlessOpinions 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I apologise that this post isn't relevant in terms of help, but as a 30yr old man I'm starting to realise just how lucky I've been parents-wise. Some of you guys have deplorable, morally bankrupt arseholes for parents. How can anyone do this in their kid's name, desperate or not?
[–]IANANarwhal 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
OP: take a look at /r/raisedbynarcissists and see if things sound familiar. If so, then that--and the coping methods discussed there--will be more important than this particular issue. (If not, good.)
[–]blackgaard 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
My mother did this to me, both before I was 18 and after. The effects can be extremely long lasting. Put it like this: I'm 38 and can not get a credit card with more than a $1200 limit, and it has taken 10 years to get this far.
I started off by just not doing anything about it - what could I do anyway? I had to wait for the 7 years to go by after I put a stop to anything being open, disputing accounts, etc, and that took a while. Then I started building my own credit... And despite being in the 730s as of recently, I can't get what an 18 year old with no history gets.
TL;DR don't let this happen. Don't feel bad for saying no - a terrible thing is being done to you by the one person who is supposed to make sure you have the tools to get through life, not ruin it for 20 years.
[–]kthxplzdrivthru 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I've seen a lot of stuff like this on here lately. I can't believe parents do this to their own.
[–]figandsage 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Unfortunately, this is not an uncommon experience. Low-income families will use the SSNs of two-year-olds if they're in dire circumstances. Doesn't make it right, of course, as this absolutely will have a negative impact on your credit history and score. If you're 17 now I feel like at 18 you may have a better chance at fixing this all, honestly. It's going to be hell, so be prepared. Spend this year researching and getting all your documentation together. Good luck!
[–]somepeopleareslow 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
i rarely browse reddit and this is like the 10th time i have seen this exact same post come up.
[–]DoveFlightNow 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
OP-- the hole might get a little deeper between now and you turning 18, but unless your family has a major upset, it is unlikely to get significantly deeper.
Your credit is unlikely to effect you at this time-- it'll come into play for buying a car at the soonest. And note--your credit score is on the low side, but still fair. You won't have much trouble bringing it up.
I don't think you have an emergency on your hands.
If you are afraid of retaliation in any way, wait until you are 18 and can move out to fix this. The usual steps are to:
1) contact the police, file a police report (you don't have to press charges)
2) contact the credit card and other companies, notify them of the theft and get the cards shut down.
3) contact Experian, Transunion, and Equifax and notify them that the bankruptcy is fraudulent, as are the credit cards etc and ask that it be removed from your record.
[–]vergasion 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Damn, I don't understand how a mother could do something that shitty to her son.
[–]danithm 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
You're probably going to need to go to the police. My mom pulled this kind of shit, and when I started contacting the various credit card companies they pretty much told me that without a police report their hands were tied. Secondly, see if you can change your SS number, because she will keep doing this whether or not you're living in her house, and you better believe she has it memorized already. Finally, dispute the charges on your credit report, the police reports will make it easier to prove that this wasn't you.
[–]NESpahtenJosh 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Working for a cable company I used to deal with parents all the time that would try and put cable accounts under their kids names and social and then play dumb when I call them on it. "No, that's my SSN - I have no idea why it's saying it's tied to a 2 year old!"
The worst kind of humans.
[–]intentsman [score hidden]  (0 children)
If the cable company can tell that a Social Security number belongs to a child, why can't a credit card company do the same?
[–]pies1123 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Don't let anyone sign a contract in your name.
My father put a car that he bought after losing his job in my name. He was caught speeding and because the car was registered in my name, I ended up in court as he never dealt with his tickets and it was my name that the car was under.
[–]npor 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Unless you do something that makes your mother liable, YOU will be liable. Once you turn 18, YOU will be responsible for paying off what the 5 credit cards owe. Your mom can continue to pay them off, but once you're 18, she has no legal obligation to do so.
So either take that risk, or get an attorney to transfer all liabilities to her.
[–]Derpetite 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
How does this even happen so often in the US?
[–]Stridercal [score hidden]  (0 children)
Poor education, and lack of personal responsibility?
[–]l1960 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
  1. If she is responsible, you get a jump start in building credit. Could be better valuable for yo.
  2. If she is irresponsible making payments, you can dispute the credit report and get it removed later on.
[–]BuffaloChicken22 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Kick her out of the house
[–]Cujjob 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I though about doing this with my kids. But I would pay the bills on time and never default. So they can get a head start with good credit.
[–]The_Impresario 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
This is only going to end two ways. One, you ignore it, let it happen, and your credit is ruined for at least seven years (but probably longer). Two, you report the identity theft, slowly get it cleaned up, and your mother is prosecuted for state and federal crimes.
YMMV, but I would go with option two.
[–]Adeel_007 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
If you don't do anything then you will have to pay all the debt back (unless your mother some pays it) and you will probably never qualify for a loan or any type of finance. You should report this ASAP
[–]Ryu113 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Hey there Niahviv.
If you were under aged when these accounts were created, and can prove so (via birth certificate, driver's license, etc.) you can most likely dispute this information with the CRAs (Consumer Reporting Agency) that are currently reporting these accounts on your file. If all goes well things should turn out in your favour. Do keep in mind, however, that this may prompt fraud investigation by the creditors who are reporting these accounts. Regarding the account included in that bankruptcy, you shouldn't worry if it has been more than ten years since that happened; the FCRA (Fair Credit Reporting Act) allows for up to 10 yrs retention time for Chapter 7 bankruptcies, and up to 7 yrs for Chapter 13. Which means this records has been most likely expunged from your file by now. Cheers.
[–]BadCreditThanksMom 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I had my mother do something similar. I remember growing up always being told by my mother to either not answer or hang up the phone if someone was calling who I didn't know. She also had a house and business foreclosed on.
I worked all through high school to have cash for fun and always used what I later found out to be my mother's social security number because that is what she told me my number was. When I was about to go to college and started to apply for financial aid I found out my real social security number because I finally needed a copy of the SS card. A short while later the car my mother was driving was repossessed and I started getting phone calls about the car. When I asked why they were calling me, they told me because the car was in my name. Being young, I thought the only way to get the default off my credit was to charge my mother with fraud. I could not bring myself to do it. I was very hurt and really did not speak with my mother for years. My credit was messed up for years and I was hounded by collections agencies. I refused to pay any money back. I know this is no help as to what to do, but you are definitely not alone.
[–]Isellcarsbro 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Not a single one of these people posts a follow up with justice.....
[–]Iamsmalls 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Hi, I know many people who this has happened to. It is horrible that people do this to their own kids. The simple answer is , when you turn 18 just contact all the credit reporting agencies such as trans union, equifax, and experian to let them know you had fraud on your report. Prove that you were under 18, and it will be removed within 30 days.
Credit reporting agencies are all private companies, so they are required by law to correct the information immediately.
[–]Mrencinas 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Same crap my mother did to me. Still having issues years and years later. Stop it ASAP. Have to let her know that she's effecting your future.
[–]Yvonne_Mom 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
That's identity theft. My mother in law used to do that to my husband, she's since deceased and it's STILL affecting him.
You'll have to file a police report to prove you're pursuing the issue in order to erase the items from your credit report in the future.
[–]dardack 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
This happened to my wife. Reddit didn't exist back then, and it was hard at 19 to get information, especially when living on your own with very little money.
So when debt collectors came calling, we were dating. My parents being the super bad ass parents, paid the settlements, and we started getting her credit history once a year to verify it had stopped.
She paid my parents back, and she didn't want to go to police on her parents, but you need to start taking care of this now. It took many years for her credit to recover. Luckily we didn't buy a house until 27, so we had time to fix it.
Use the free tools, once a year each credit buraue has to provide your credit report to you for free. Federal Law, I believe is here: https://www.annualcreditreport.com/index.action
Get one from each (creditkarma only has 2). Make sure you have your Birthcert and SSN card, contact each agency and dispute all of them. Contact each business listed and dispute all of them. You may need to provide your birth cert/ssn copies to prove. But once you prove you're under 18, they'll be closing those things quick. Then you want them removed from your history.
Now some might give you issues, and you might have to get police involved. It can take a very long time to fix, you should start now.
[–]elkazay 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I would bring a lawyer into this. You may be able to emancipate yourself so you won't have to fear any backlash for still being considered a dependent.if your mother
[–]KnowBrainer 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I'd let it ride until you turn 18. You aren't really liable for anything someone else does with your name, doubly so as a minor. Let her do what she feels she has to do to keep the lights on and food on the table, and then once you turn 18 you can ask her to stop using your identity oursort everything out with a single trip to a lawyer.
Most likely everything will work out for both of you.
[–]Bjoris100 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
If everything is in your name, maybe you can change the adress on some things when you move out en take those with you. I can also recommend stopping some services. I dont know if you have passwords and that kind off stuff but if you dont try to get them this will make everything a lot easier.
[–]it_ninja 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I'm sorry this happened. Luckily you have caught it before it affects you later in life.
I had something similar happen to me, but it occurred once I turned 18 and began to receive credit card offers in the mail.
I left for college and got a part-time job. I would sometimes come home on weekends, but that's about it unless it was a holiday.
After college, I applied for a credit card and began using it. I mentioned this to my mother, who seemed excited about it. She asked how much the credit limit was and commented that "the one I got you when you turned 18 has a much higher limit than that." Perplexed, I asked what she was talking about, since I had never used a credit card prior to being in my early 20s.
She spilled the beans that she had responded to the credit card offers that came in under my name. A couple had pretty high limits, but the remaining six all had $500 limits. She had maxed out all and was making minimum payments. Apparently, she was using them to purchase items online (which wasn't really much of a thing back then) and via catalogs.
I was pretty upset, but she reasoned that she was helping my credit by doing this and that my parents were making the payments on the cards, so it didn't matter anyway. I don't know why, but this made sense to me so I let it go.
Fast forward a couple years. I get married and we begin contemplating getting a house. I check my credit and to my surprise there are the eight credit cards that my mother had signed up for and all are maxed with very spotty payment history. It was almost like they'd only make a payment on one each month.
I was furious and had a very adult conversation with my parents, which I probably should have had when I first discovered what was going on. I wanted all information on all cards that they had under my name. I had all of the account numbers changed and updated the address to my current address. I also removed all other authorized parties from the accounts.
For me, pressing charges wasn't an option. I really hated what they had done, but they were my parents. I just couldn't bring myself to doing anything else.
I had to empty my savings just to get the credit cards down to tolerable levels where I could afford the minimum payments each month. Slowly we began to pay off each and close them. It was very hard on the relationship with my wife, but we got through it.
As a result of all this, we weren't really credit-worthy enough to purchase a home until our early 30s. It really set us back a good five to six years on where we wanted to be. I also don't speak to my mother any longer, and the relationship with my father is not that great either.
It was a rough situation, and I hate seeing anything similar happening to other people.
[–]Bman1973 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I'm sure you've gotten alot of good advice already but I'll add that your mother IS sabotaging your future, there's no maybe about it! You need to take action right now not only to try and fix any damage already done but you also have to make sure she doesn't continue once you are on your own; My best guess is that she probably will keep this as a possibility once you are an established adult, meaning, try and put something in your name, trying to get credit with your SSN, you have to find out what you can do to prevent this from happening. I have learned the hard way that family will lie right to your face and the fact that you said that you were afraid of 'retaliation' from her is very telling. Good luck, and if it walks on two feet don't give your complete 100% trust, if it walks on 4 and barks you're all good....
[–]tigerstorms 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
As someone who used to sell services to people over the phone this is way more common than people think it is. The sad part is we have no idea of knowing if someone is using their kids name and SSN because the all companies only check if the name doesn't match up with the SSN we input. When that happens we have to tell the person over the phone they need to verify their ID at an office before we can sell them services.
What is worse is how many other companies don't even bother checking the name against the SSN at all, as long as you have a SSN and a decent score then you're good to go.
With all that being said If your mother has done this she will most likely never stop doing it. What that means for you is you need to keep and eye on your score for as long as she is around. Fixing this is going to take a long time however keeping her from doing it again is almost impossible if you maintain any kind of relationship with her because she will always have access to your SSN and other information she would need to verify in order to get a credit card or some other kind of service in your name. I've heard of people being able to change their SSN's by request from the state government in order to prevent their parents from stealing their ID again however most of the time it's more of a hassle than it's worth.
[–]nanananabatman88 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I mean, on the bright side, 648 isn't a terrible score to start out with. I've been trying to build my credit for three years after a few stupid mistakes on my part, and it still hasn't gotten up past "poor".
[–]_AlreadyTaken_ 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
So there is no mechanism to prevent a CC from being opened for a minor and for someone to use a CC that isn't in their name?
[–]clampie 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
If you go to college and stop her from using your cards it should not hurt you over this period. Credit agencies do not care if your parent stole your identification and there is no law that requires them to care so please use caution. But if you give it another seven years, you'll be in the clear as long as your mom stops impersonating you. If you want to sue her at that point, though, that is your choice.
[–]Master-Work 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Request a New SS Number. Is what I'd do, your young enough where it's not like there should be any debt. Just it takes time and is a pain.
[–]IggySoda 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I know a brother and sister whose father had done this to them when they were younger.
Really messed up their credit, and their trust (naturally)... though both are successful and happy people now. :)
[–]CesarMillan_Official 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
If the bills are being paid on time then you can thank her for building you credit. If not then it can be a big problem. You are under 18 so If your credit has had any negative effect, you have plenty of time to get it back up. 648 isnt Great but not that bad. Not sure how a parents bankruptcy works under your name. Im not a financial advisor or anthing but im not sure If people under 18 can file bankruptcy let alone a 7-9 year old.
[–]I_AM_NOT_A_PHISH 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
If all the bills are being paid on time there is no excuse to have a credit score under 700. He needs to get this out of his mother's control immediately.
[–]makebelieveworld 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
My mom got me a card when I was like 13 for emergencies. Then she let me use it to buy stuff like groceries and stuff and then she paid it off. I had perfect credit when I went to college and knew how credit cards worked.
[–]Dirtyindian 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
My mother used my SSN to open up a credit card back when I was like 9, she was going through a rough patch. I didn't notice till I was 17 when I went to run a credit check for a motorcycle. It turns out that her opening the account that long ago helped my credit tremendously. Im 20 and I'm sitting at a 780 right now. Because she opened a credit card that long ago, it gave my credit report "history" so now lenders see that I have a 11 year old credit card with not a single missed payment
[–]TSM_TheArrow 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
You need to get help ASAP. I understand that she's your mother but you're a minor and this definitely will affect ur future. It's identity theft and if u wait till ur 18 ur mom will pull a fast one and claim u made them urself (which is hard to believe considering some of the accounts were made when u were wayyyyy too young). I wouldn't recommend talking to her cuz she's gonna get mad and try to frame u, but talk to the right authorities and if you have to, get emancipated
[–]blacksoxing 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Happens to a lot of us.
Story: Friend and his wife were buying a house. His credit was normal. Hers was AWFUL. Why? Her mama used her credit for anything and everything. Water bills...cable...CC's....
Mortgage lender told 'em, you'll have to report this as identity theft in order for the underwriters to be able to do their jobs, as it's clear that you don't live X, but it says you have for 5 years.
So she had to alert her mama that she was going to file a police report for identity theft, which she did, as she wanted that house. Imagine telling your mama that you're calling the police. Police knew the deal, she of course she didn't press charges and her mama wasn't arrested. Yet, she know looks at her credit report to ensure nothing else pops up...
[–]JdHpylo 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Just curious. If you can open accounts for underaged children could you just give your kids awesome credit scores when they turned 18 by opening credit cards charging one recurring monthly charge every month for 18 years( low CU, 216 on time monthly payments,) and auto paying it?
[–]Zubei_ 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
My mom did this to me. Not with credit cards(that I know of), but with utility bills. Some that were never paid. I stupidly accepted taking her on a phone plan as well, of which she never paid for. I had to pay like $700 and then cancel it before it got worse.
Tough love. I'm not about to ruin my credit.
[–]Slingyman 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
After reading all the comments that's what I would do in your case. I would ask her to show the outstanding balance on all cards and give permanent access to it. If it's not maxed out and the payments are being made, let her ride it out until you're 18. If not, tell her to pay the credit or report identity theft. I wouldn't wait before I move out, but I don't know your situation with your mother. I guess it's for you to decide. You can claim identity theft once you leave. Just take your birth certificate with you.
[–]Contact40 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
I recognize that your mom has committed fraud, but I notice that nowhere in your post did you mention she was being reckless with them. I know it's likely that she is, but I don't want to make any assumptions so I'll play the devils advocate here.
If your mom opened these cards and is using them herself but doing so responsibly (paying them off, not using a balance, and has not saddled you with ANY debt), then perhaps it's worth calling them once you are 18 and either A: removing her as an authorized user so you can control it moving forward, or B: if she has saddled you with debt she can't repay, calling them and telling them you are a minor and that they need to get f'd.
Length of credit history is a factor. It sounds like with a 650 score she may be either keeping your balances high and/or not paying on time every month, so the likelier course of action is probably going to be reporting mom and getting the cards cancelled.
[–]ochogiltrow [score hidden]  (0 children)
A 650 credit score sounds like she's being reckless
[–]Rlchard1 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Am I missing something? How can you get a credit card at 11 years old? Or 14, 15, 16, 17 even?
[–]josh95mx [score hidden]  (0 children)
This happened to me. I found out at 19 that my grandmother and aunt had used my SS# and a fake name to pull credit cards with JC penny and other stores. They maxed them out an never paid them off. I was trying to buy a car when I found out and was denied. I was able to get out of all of it, as I was under age when the cards were issued. It took nearly a year to get all of the creditors to whipe it from my credit history. Being underage You have the advantage. They cannot make you pay it back and it can not go on your credit. Like me you have a tough choice to make, what your mom is doing is illegal, and you could stop it by contacting the athorites.
[–]WhyNotARobot [score hidden]  (1 child)
My mom did this for me. When I was 18 and buying my first car new car (I was in the military, and it's common there), I had no trouble getting a loan at a great rate. She stopped after I turned 18. Most of the other guys I knew were getting interest rates at 18%, but I got mine at 5.5% which was super low at the time.
[–]needforspeed5000 [score hidden]  (1 child)
My parents opened a bank and credit card for me when I was a minor in order to help my credit, so i don't think they will block this action.
[–]rinnip [score hidden]  (0 children)
Since when does an ISP need an SSN? I sure as heck don't give mine out that easily. Your mom needs to be more careful when she's cheating.
[–]meatgraderman [score hidden]  (0 children)
Bad credit can stay on your record for 7 years. The 648 credit score is not bad so no damage has been done in that respect. I would get your free credit report from the 3 major credit agencies and inform them the cards are not your accounts.
[–]bellystraw [score hidden]  (0 children)
It's messed up. Hope you can get your stuff together abd confeont your mothers' financial abuse. No kid should go through this. Power to you my brudda
[–]aeoivxlcdm [score hidden]  (0 children)
Don't turn on your mother, because you don't exactly understand why she may have done this
Still, put her in her place, but instead of ratting her in, threaten the companies that accepted the contracts in question, as people have stated, it is illegal for a minor to blah blah blah, and you can actually threaten to fuck them without fucking with your family (if you got the wits). That is the quickest way to deal with it because they react quickly to threats but not to simpleton bureaucratic issues.
[–]ctlister 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
That is fucked up. Also, it is illegal because at your age, by law, you are not considered to have "capacity" to be considered a adult until 18 in regards to contracts (credit card agreements).
However, depending on your region and local and state statutes, you may be able to clear out this fraudulent credit record solely on basis of "lack of capacity". Through a Judge looking at the case in civil court, and ordering it so. Maybe mom knows that. Maybe she is taking advantage of that.
Also your mother has committed a serious federal offense in regards to using your name and SSN to impersonate you. But ask the cops how they will see it. She basically is building a fake identity with your name.
It's sad because I know a lady, much older than you, whose mother is doing the same thing to her. She has six figures of debt now, they kicked her out of the house after SHE paid the rent, and she is staying at a weekly, making payments on a car that is not even legally her's. Her credit score tanked, she is almost homeless, and she has hundreds of thousands in medical debt as well.
If you act quickly, you wont be in trouble. You will have a clean record, clean identity, and clean life. Ask a lawyer first. Then a police station if he OKs it.
[–]ryios 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
Well, on the bright side, 648 isn't a terrible score to start out with so if you do recover your identity, you've got a nice starting point.
[–]nanananabatman88 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Are we the same person? I just posted this same comment like a minute after you. Lol
[–]ryios 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Lol, didn't see that, yeah that's quite coincidental.
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    [–]Voerendaalse 171 points172 points173 points  (19 children)
    Do you have a father who is around? If you're underage, but your father is in the picture, he could help you stop this (put a credit freeze on your credit report for you etc).
    I'm sorry that this is happening to you. I think indeed the most important thing for you is to work towards becoming independent from your mother. Check out the wiki's in the right-hand column about how to handle $ and the one specifically made for young people.
    There's a wiki page about identity theft as well, you might want to read up on it. This is identity theft by your mother. Whether you want to do something about it right now is up to you.
    [–]destroyman1337 39 points40 points41 points  (18 children)
    Hey not sure if you know or not but I have a question.
    How come stuff like this happens? Shouldn't your social security number tip off companies that the person is underaged?
    [–]stranglevine 27 points28 points29 points  (15 children)
    Not necessarily, apparently. I was interested in your question, so I looked up how the SSA assigns SSNs. The first set of digits are assigned by 'area,' then by group, and then sequentially within the group. But, because the first numbers are the area and the group/sequence numbers are re-used, it's possible for there to be overlap. For example, my father and I have six of nine digits the same (both same number and same place in the SSN).
    Plus, most people I'd guess don't know what the numbers stand for and don't know what the 'current' group/sequence numbers are, to know that a particular SSN is more recent than it should be.
    [–]dmacintyres 24 points25 points26 points  (11 children)
    I think the point they were trying to make was shouldn't your SSN be tied to your date of birth or something? Like if a credit card company looks up your SSN to pull your credit and sees you have absolutely no credit history they should at leas be able to see what your date of birth is according to the government's information at the time of your birth. Apparently that's not how it's done since all these kids are having their identities stolen.
    [–]Gothelittle 12 points13 points14 points  (3 children)
    Original poster did say that the birth year was incorrect on the report. That might be a good place to start, actually. Go to the Social Security office with your birth certificate and get it changed.
    [–]dmacintyres 17 points18 points19 points  (2 children)
    That's the problem though. I don't believe that your DOB is actually tied to your SSN, so the Social Security office has nothing to do with it. The incorrect DOB is a lie fed to whatever credit card company in order to get the info through their system and get approved for a card.
    [–]Gothelittle 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
    You're right; I misread.
    [–]dmacintyres 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    Happens to me all the time lol
    [–]mokaiba 0 points1 point2 points  (6 children)
    its not possible to use birth info in usa on ssn. There are 320 million of us here. we would run out of numbers lol.
    if you used just the year: xxx-xx-xx95, that would leave a possible 10 million remaining combinations + 00-99 years.
    With the total 9 digits, we have 1 billion combinations.
    However, 11 digits would allow it.
    11: 9 digits (1 billion) + YY (00-99)
    The people who keep suggesting birth year are from denmark or some other low population european country.
    Denmark has about 5 million people.
    They use DDMMYY-SSSS.
    The SSSS has 10,000 combinations.
    YY: 68-99 (1968 was first year they used this (31 total years))
    MM: 01-12 (04 was first month)
    DD: 01-31 (02 was first day)
    1 January is already used up and since 2007 the validation number may fail as it was used up too.
    [–]dmacintyres 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
    Yes, if we stick with the current 9 digit system. We could either just attach the DOB to the number in whatever government spreadsheet system they use to keep track of all this information or make the number longer. A 13 or 14 digit number (so just using the month/year with 2 digits for the month and 3 for the year so that centenarian folks don't get boned by the law) wouldn't be such a bad thing.
    [–]mokaiba 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
    12 digits is all you would need then.
    12: 9 digits (1 billion) + YYY (000-999)
    Example SSN: 555-66-7312-005.
    005 = 2005.
    Gov't could just say everyone born 2020 and after would have that format leaving the rest with what they have. By 2038, it wouldnt be an issue anymore.
    Could go even one step farther.
    13: 9 digits (1 billion) + YYY (000-999) + S (1 for male, 2 for female)
    Example SSN: 555-66-7312-0051.
    0051 = Male born in 2005.
    [–]dmacintyres 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
    Yes and no. If they were limiting the SSN for use based on the age of the individual they would either have to allow the individual to use it when they turn 17 or they would have to make people wait until the January 1st of the year after they were born.
    An example of this problem is Jack and Sally were both born in 2016. Jack was born January 1st, while Sally was born December 30th. So January 1, 2034 comes along and now Jack is 18 while Sally is 17. With only the year as the age identifier either both of them should be able to get a card or neither of them should since the company has no way of knowing who is actually 18 yet.
    [–]mokaiba 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
    I understand your logic, however, the company could just ask for the birth certificate.
    The point of adding a birth year or 1/2 for sex is to reduce identity theft.
    If you were in a store and I was signing up for a store credit card and put down 555-65-6565-9802 but im a male, you would question that. 555-65-6565-9801 could work, however, that person would likely have red flags pop up. its also possible, however unlikely, that 555-65-6565-9801 does not exist.
    [–]dmacintyres [score hidden]  (0 children)
    Well if you have to have your birth certificate for things then that eliminates online applications for things like credit cards, college, student loans, etc. At that point you're just making everything more of a pain in the ass, which is what we're trying to avoid in the first place if we're adding a DOB to the mix. The point is for the new number to make it easier for you to be identified by whoever has the number and to make it harder for your parents or whoever else to steal your identity.
    The current 9 digit system allows for about 1 billion people to be on the system. That's a lot of numbers and makes it hard to guess. If we simply include the month and year, we're increasing that to 1 billion for every single month of every single year from that point forward
    You'd have to have the number or be very, very lucky to guess it correctly at that point.
    [–]destroyman1337 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Shouldn't the person's information like name and birth date be linked to the social security number? As in, SSN is XXX-XX-XXXX is John Smith born 1/1/2014. Or is it more of just XXX-XX-XXXX is John Smith.
    [–]AMViquel 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    I can't believe Austria has a superior system in anything.
    A SSN issued to a child born today will have the format xxxC191016, where C is a checksum and xxx a consecutive number. As Austrian tradition requires, when shit hits the fan (date of birth unknown, consecutive number above 999) the system defaults to confuse everyone - in such a case, month 13 is introduced and days technically allowed to go beyond 31 in month 13.
    [–]unclefisty -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
    Honestly most banks probably don't care either more cards in hand means more money.
    [–]BONGLORD420 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    No, not if those cards are fraudulent and the debt won't be paid. Where would that money come from?
    [–]SquirtleInYourMeowth 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    It happens because his Mom has terrible credit attached to her name. So she started using her childs information to start fresh.
    [–]Algent 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Here (French) our SSN does include birth year & month. But we have 12 digits not 9.
    [–]rdselle 169 points170 points171 points  (9 children)
    Post this on /r/legaladvice. Essentially, once you are not concerned with retaliation and/or your family relationships, report this to the police. Your mother is breaking the law. This has PF implications, but it is 100% a legal issue.
    [–]beniceorbevice 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    I wanna put this higher up; since the credit score is pretty decent she's probably doing him a favor he should talk to her and see what her intentions were. Either way Op should not take this any further he'll be a 18yr with the best credit score and be able to get loans for a car/apt 100x easier than his friends. It's not a great score but 5yr old credit is great, once the cards are paid off I bet he'll be in the 750 area easy.
    [–]ex-mo-fo-sho 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    report this to the police.
    This is sound advice. In an article about this:
    Without a police report, experts say it is nearly impossible to restore a victim’s good name
    It is a fraud case ... your mom used your SSN (not hers) to open contracts. Lucky you, you are a minor and with a police report in hand, can get your slate wiped-clean.
    [–]techknowAthena -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
    He's a 17 year old living at home? I know it's easy for people online to say things (esp in personal finance and relationships) like "CUT ALL TIES! FUCK THOSE PEOPLE! WHO NEEDS THEM! BE ALONE!" but in the real world, human relationships are very important. While it's possible to make it in life without them, it's significantly easier with them.
    Maybe give advice that isn't "cut all ties and call the police!!!!!!1"
    [–]rdselle [score hidden]  (0 children)
    "once you are not concerned with retaliation and/or your family relationships"
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      [–]letmeexplainitforyou 230 points231 points232 points  (15 children)
      This is going to be a tough pill to swallow, but your mother doesn't love you like you think she does - she's perfectly happy to steal not just from you, but from your future, to serve her own needs. When it comes time to press charges, you have two choices: either forgive her transgressions and shoulder the burden of her debts, or press charges for identity theft and get your life back. It's her responsibility to raise you until you're an adult, not borrow from your future. No loving parent would sabotage your financial prospects before you even left the house. She's probably someone who does love you on some level, but she's deeply wronged you, and I implore you, for your own sake, to not hold back when it comes to giving her her just desserts, not out of vindictiveness, but out of defensiveness for yourself and your possible future.
      For any hesitation you feel towards filing criminal charges against her, realize that your entire life has been fucked up before it even had a chance to get started, by one of the only two people in this entire world whose sole responsibility is to not fuck up your life. While the score might not be that bad, you owe all of that money now.
      [–]SourPatchPhoenix 40 points41 points42 points  (0 children)
      If I may add, she's also stealing from any children/spouse/family you may have in the future. Imagine not being able to get a loan for a mortgage or send your kids to college because you're still trying to pay off her debts.
      [–]dvorgrim 50 points51 points52 points  (3 children)
      Yeah, this is the sad truth. OP's mother is literally stealing from him and destroying his future.
      [–]1forthethumb -7 points-6 points-5 points  (0 children)
      I just assumed OP is a girl due to the lack of standing up for herself.
      [–]like_2_watch -4 points-3 points-2 points  (1 child)
      Honest question: does this hyperbole about the effect of the identity theft stem from lack of knowledge about credit scores? Because while 648 isn't ideal, it is almost certainly better than what OP would have if he has no credit history whatsoever.
      [–]Sam-Gunn 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      The issue doesn't stem from what his credit score is, it stems from the fact that his mother is abusing his identity because her own credit lines are obviously FUBAR. Nobody who has things going well for them thinks "Ok, now lets steal my child's identity to get more credit lines!". The number of cards (5) is also quite worrying. Sure, many adults may have that many credit cards, but again, it's based around the fact that she screwed up her own credit score and lines, and then decided to use HIS for HER personal gain, ignoring the fact that if she fucks up (again, mind you) her own child may not be able to support himself or may be on the hook for a lot of money that he never consented to spending.
      [–]h22lude 21 points22 points23 points  (0 children)
      It must be hard for OP to read what you wrote but you are 100% correct. OP should do everything possible to fix his credit and shouldn't worry about what will happen to his mother. His mother didn't worry about what would to him if she screwed up his credit.
      I can't imagine a parent doing this to a child. I have a 1 year old and my main concern right now is saving for his future. My wife and I opened a college fund for him and started a separate savings account for miscellaneous things like helping him with a car when he gets old enough. We are lucky that we both grew up with great families and both have good jobs which allow us to do this. Even if we couldn't save anything for him and had financial problems, I would never for one second think about messing with his credit. Credit is a huge part of our lives and one if the biggest things we try to keep secret (I.e. not telling anyone your SSN). If your parents can't protect you from credit danger then I'm not sure I would be able to trust them with anything.
      [–]GlasgowSciFi 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
      If it's any consolation to OP there's a good chance she's just too stupid to realise the implications of what she's done.
      [–]gigitrix 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      This is the most important comment in the thread. I feel sorry for OP because while the credit stuff will be fixed (it won't be easy but it's doable) coming to terms with what they did to you...
      Well it's gross. You now have people responsible for your wellbeing that you cannot trust.
      [–]SaneCoefficient 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I would even look into leaving the house after something like this. She clearly does not have OP's best interests in mind.
      [–]beefcake24720 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      I can loan you a period (.) if you want.
      She's probably someone who does love you on some level, but she's deeply wronged you, and I implore you, for your own sake, to not hold back when it comes to giving her her just desserts, not out of vindictiveness, but out of defensiveness for yourself and your possible future.
      [–]Policeman333 -2 points-1 points0 points  (4 children)
      she's perfectly happy to steal not just from you, but from your future, to serve her own needs.
      And what if its the needs of the family and not just hers? We really don't get a full picture here of the families financial situation and it may be a case of "Well these kids needs food on the table now so they actually have a future to complain about" type of deal.
      [–]skyvalleysalmon 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      There are plenty of ways to get food for a family in the US. Assistance for families with children is available from the government and private charities.
      [–]h22lude 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      There are much better ways to get food on the table than to steal from your child and ruining their credit. That shouldn't be an option for any parent. There are government sanctioned programs just for that type of situation. I don't believe that is the case though (I'm assuming of course). The OP mentioned his name was on a cable bill. If parents are scraping by to get food on the table, cable should be cancelled.
      [–]PooptyPewptyPaints 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      If a thief steals a loaf of bread to feed his starving family, has he committed a crime?
      [–]kbbqbukkake 317 points318 points319 points  (52 children)
      Made an account so I could reply to this. You are 17. You cannot legally enter into a binding and legal contract w a company. Most likely than not your mom has a debit card or has used your information to set up the bills or is simply using your bank account as her own. I've actually seen this happen quite a bit...
      Once again companies cannot legally enter a contract with you since you are a minor.
      Call those utilities companies and see if they have a record of you signing up. If you have a credit card indeed under your name contact the company and they will clear it out for you.
      Edit: next time I'll read your whole post. If you are past reasoning with your mom on this...call the police file a police report. Open fraud claims with every credit card company...they will out a freeze on the lines. Also call the credit bureaus and request a credit freeze.
      [–]ChildCelebrity 229 points230 points231 points  (17 children)
      Real quick sidenote: you made an account for this, and that was the name you chose? lol
      This is exactly what I would say to OP though. I'm sure they can find their birthdate with the SSN, and thus see that they are a minor and unable to enter a contract for a credit card. Contact the issuing companies directly and the credit bureau and go from there. Potentially see an attorney, although that might be a little difficult given OP is only 17 and may not have the money for that.
      [–]kswimmer811 91 points92 points93 points  (11 children)
      Who doesn't like Korean BBQ
      [–]Melansjf1 31 points32 points33 points  (4 children)
      Nothing like a lightly grilled bukkake.
      [–]graveybrains 21 points22 points23 points  (2 children)
      Fun, and useless, fact: It was originally a cooking term meaning to add a little splash of something to what you were cooking.
      [–]manwomanbutt 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
      Actually no. Bukkake just means to cover something. Bukkake soba is soba with the sauce applied all over the noodles.
      [–]TheLoneProspector [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Yes... all over the noodles...
      [–]ichabodcraneshead 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I just vomited in my mouth a little.
      [–]vbullinger 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
      Or the other thing?
      [–]ka1913 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
      Stab in the dark but... are you korean?
      [–]kswimmer811 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
      Nah I'm American. Everyone I know enjoys k BBQ every once in a while. And if it wasn't obvious I know what bukkakke is
      [–]ka1913 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      Sorry was attempting a guest at the kswimer screen name
      [–]kswimmer811 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Oh hahaha it was my old PlayStation name and I'm unoriginal and uncreative to make a new Reddit name
      [–]taking_a_deuce -4 points-3 points-2 points  (0 children)
      On a serious note though, Korean BBQ makes me want to vomit.
      [–]unclefisty 8 points9 points10 points  (1 child)
      I'm almost certain the response OP will get will be "come back with a police report for identity theft or we won't do anything" despite OP being a minor.
      [–]WIlf_Brim 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Except that since he was a minor the entire contract is invalid. Even if he DID apply himself (which he didn't) the application wouldn't be valid because he wasn't 18. He doesn't have to file a police report (although the cc company can, but won't), all he has to do is prove he is less than 18. and was less than 18 at the time of the application.
      [–]jfatwork2 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Its a good solid name.
      [–]Saudi-Prince 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Potentially see an attorney, although that might be a little difficult given OP is only 17 and may not have the money for that.
      Pay the attorney with stuff bought on the creditcard. He wont have to pay it back!
      [–]Spilkn 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Potentially see an attorney, although that might be a little difficult given OP is only 17 and may not have the money for that.
      The guy has like 5 credit cards.
      [–]Thedirtyjersey 37 points38 points39 points  (5 children)
      Yeah honestly. This is just the beginning, don't worry about stressing "the family", everyone that reports these problems always worries if they press the issue the family will implode, well that's likely going to happen anyway and some people get to make crappy choice of stay for abuse and harm to their life or call abusers out and deal with the freakout... because generally parents that pull this kind of stunt are not mature, stable people... No matter which you chose these behaviors go on, bitterness hardens and the veil of happy youth erodes as you see though you parents flaws.
      Don't short yourself just to avoid the inevitable
      Tough news but if your parents are being shitty enough to do this to you they aren't going to be there for you after you're 18.
      First lesson to learn is people are frail, trust is tough and earned or lost by actions, not words.
      Prepare to leave these people and independent.
      [–]HoodieGalore 12 points13 points14 points  (4 children)
      they aren't going to be there for you after you're 18
      They might be, if they can find a way to make it work for them. Oh, you're 18 now, get a job and start paying rent, etc. A lot of ways to financially control someone living in your house if they're unable to leave easily.
      Source: Fucking been there.
      [–]TheGamingLord 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
      That's not being there for you, that's them using you for themselves.
      Being there for you would be more akin to, "Oh you don't have a job yet? That's ok, we'll help you until you find one."
      So the above comment of them not being there seems fairly accurate.
      [–]Third_Ferguson -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
      Who says they wouldn't help?
      [–]TheGamingLord 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      The type of person to open multiple credit cards in your child's name is usually not the same type of person who would help that child when in need.
      [–]Third_Ferguson -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      This behavior could be done out of desperation and ignorance rather than being an uncaring parent.
      [–]LupineChemist 14 points15 points16 points  (1 child)
      I had this happen to me, they don't actually check that the birthday matches with whatever record is associated with the SSN. You just fudge the years and use the same SSN to get cards.
      There's really not any data validation for it.
      [–]schneeb 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Does America really trust the SSN without anything else checking out? Whack.
      [–]a_shootin_star 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
      nihaviv: Hello, I would like to close my account
      CC operator, reluctantly and begrudgingly: Hmm.. and why is that? Our contracts are not negotiable on the phone, you m-
      nihaviv, interrupting: I'm a minor. I'm 17.
      CC operator, sounding scared: Right away Sir
      [–]bka600 9 points10 points11 points  (14 children)
      You cannot legally enter into a binding and legal contract w a company.
      Once again companies cannot legally enter a contract with you since you are a minor.
      Not true. The general rule is that contracts are voidable by the minor, but courts will ensure that the minor doesn't use this to cheat the other party (e.g. a kid can buy a candy bar, but if the kid eats the candy bar he can't ask for his money back).
      Identity theft is a totally separate issue.
      [–]AkiraBea 9 points10 points11 points  (12 children)
      Uh, not sure where you live but its true when it comes to contracts. A minor can not sign a legal contract.
      [–]bka600 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
      This is the law everywhere in the US (and I'd assume it's true in other common-law jurisdictions like the U.K., too.)
      [–]Ashrod63 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      In the UK it varies considerably. Age of majority is set as standard to 18, but there are variations between the constituent nations.
      Scotland gives full power to enter contracts at 16 (chosen because that is the age you are legally allowed to be wed at, England and Wales demand parental consent so don't have this requirement).
      England and Wales it is set to 7, so long as the person signing it understands the terms and is able to void the contract at any time (this stops being the case at 18, although preexisting contracts may be voided within a reasonable time frame after their 18th birthday). Some contracts require parental consent if they are to avoid the voiding condition (so that applies to education, employment or the aforementioned marriage).
      [–]u38cg2 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      Not necessarily and you shouldn't give legal advice if you're not qualified to do so.
      [–]whinecube 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      A minor can generally enter into a contract for necessities.
      [–]Walter_jones 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Minors (those under the age of 18, in most states) lack the capacity to make a contract. So a minor who signs a contract can either honor the deal or void the contract. There are a few exceptions, however. For example, in most states, a minor cannot void a contract for necessities like food, clothing, and lodging. Also, a minor can void a contract for lack of capacity only while still under the age of majority. In most states, if a minor turns 18 and hasn't done anything to void the contract, then the contract can no longer be voided.
      [–]Tsorovar -6 points-5 points-4 points  (5 children)
      Buying a candy bar is a legal contract.
      [–]Sam-Gunn 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
      It's not. This discussion comes up every time theres one of these threads here. A minor CAN be held responsible for a contract, in certain situations. Also, buying things does not result in the creation of a contract due to simply buying it. I'll see about digging up these sources, it's actually really interesting some of the discussions around this stuff here in PF. Personally, I too thought a minor could never be held responsible for any sort of contract.
      [–]Tsorovar 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
      ... Yes it is. Buying something from a shop is the absolute most quintessential contract there is.
      [–]PrimeLegionnaire [score hidden]  (1 child)
      In what way?
      A sale is not a contract.
      the exchange of an object for money implies no obligations beyond the exchange itself. There is no binding or promise from either side.
      Its not a contract.
      [–]Tsorovar [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Offer, acceptance, intention to be legally bound, consideration on both sides. Oh look, it's a contract. What the fuck do you think it is?
      Maybe next time, don't presume to give legal advice when you don't know the most basic shit.
      [–]obamawould 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      Interesting username to give financial tips
      [–]u38cg2 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      You cannot legally enter into a binding and legal contract w a company.
      Yes and no. Depending on where you are, minors can have the legal capacity to contract. However, certain types of contract are statute barred to minors, and credit facilities are one of those.
      [–]ex-mo-fo-sho 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      You cannot legally enter into a binding and legal contract w a company.
      This is technically not true. According to contract law, a company can enter into a contract with a minor, but the minor can void the contract at any time. It is called a "voidable contract". Source
      [–]PinkMama2015 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      They have to show you your original signature on any documents when you sign up. I had a credit card pop up that they had to delete. One of the main reasons is they could not produce any physical signatures.
      [–]Epwydadlan1 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
      I love the username you chose to reply to this....
      [–]IwannaPeeInTheSea -8 points-7 points-6 points  (3 children)
      Please don't reply unless you know what you're talking about. I got a credit card when I was 16 in my own name, and I started leasing a new car when I was 17. Definitely not true.
      [–]figuren9ne 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
      And if nobody co-signed with you (and this is in the USA) those contracts were voidable by you.
      [–]Jaysyn4Reddit 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      Were you an emancipated minor in the USA?
      [–]BloodyPunday 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      Yeah, and I did 70 in a 60 once so speeding laws don't exist either.
      [–]ex-mo-fo-sho 25 points26 points27 points  (1 child)
      Here are some links to resources to aid you.
      Like others have said, you are a minor and as such, can void a contract at any time. Source
      How to obtain your credit reports as a minor Link
      Resources for fighting identity theft Link You may have a leg-up here ... since you are a minor.
      Having helped someone fight identity theft, it always came down to proving you didn't enter into a contract with company such-and-such. As a minor, again, you have the golden ticket. You can void any contract and they don't have a leg to stand on. However, cleaning up your already shot credit history is another matter.
      TransUnion handles cleaning-up credit reports for minors directly. Link
      Also from the FTC link:
      Ask each company to remove all accounts, account inquiries, and collection notices from any file associated with your child’s name and Social Security number.
      Contact every business where your child’s information was misused. Ask each business to close the fraudulent account and flag it to show it resulted from identity theft.
      [–]B0ssc0 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Your post is incredibly helpful.
      [–]Thatguy1125 75 points76 points77 points  (1 child)
      My mother did a very similar thing when I was 17 and 18. I really didn't know. But it put a lot of bad debt in my name and jacked my credit for years. It caused a huge falling out between us and we didn't speak for years.
      I know it may not be what you want to hear but if you don't fix it now it will cause huge headaches for you later. I'm 30 and was finally able to get my credit back to normal this year. Don't sit by and let it happen!
      [–]techknowAthena 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      1. Waiting 13 years to fix ANYTHING is a terrible life decision
      2. Things fall off your credit report in seven years so if you really didn't even start to fix them until now wouldn't you have been basically the same at age 25? I mean even if they filed bankruptcy thats only 10 years.
      [–]Bumbumquietsch 68 points69 points70 points  (7 children)
      Man, this entire SSN-System seems so broken and bad to me (Western Europe).
      The only things I keep reading about it are fraud-related.
      [–]IDontUsuallyPassBars 54 points55 points56 points  (4 children)
      You are right--SSNs were actually never intended to be used in this way, but here we are.
      [–]Mujona_Akage 3 points4 points5 points  (3 children)
      That happens with almost every system set in place with good intentions. Someone somewhere will eventually abuse it to their own benefit at someone else's expense.
      [–]Sdffcnt 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
      I wonder why the slippery slope fallacy is a fallacy then.
      [–]NapoleonThrownaparte 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
      It's interesting to me that a lot of the comments are referring to the superiority of other systems with a date of birth included in the ID, but from my programming perspective/opinion that's worse. The reason being that an ID alone is immutable data, but a random number plus DOB contains potentially mutable data. What if there's a mistake at either end regarding a person's date of birth and the two conflict? I also find it ironic that a system designed to secure identity would make public one of the most important aspects of your identity in the ID, and one that can't be changed!
      Seems to me that the way you'd want it is the way almost all databases work, you give each record a straightforward unique ID and check other information against that. Which surely you'd want to do anyway. The UK's National Insurance Number (used for the NHS and tax) appears to be random but as far as I know isn't subject to fraud in the same way, presumably because checks are performed and it's not so all-encompassing.
      [–]EroticHamsterrr [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Belgian here. We have such number which includes my birth date. I sometimes have to enter it on forms.
      This is however not used as a "signature", only as a unique identifier so that the company can find out which of the 38 Belgian EroticHamsterrrs I am exactly.
      For most things, our signature is the digital certificate our actually chipped ID card, which you can use with a pin code. Which is how I do administration online without having to go to the city hall.
      It took me a while to realize your SSN number is something "secret" and private and that you can get into trouble if people know yours.
      [–]rilwanb 41 points42 points43 points  (3 children)
      Your mum is spending all the future money you haven't earned yet. Just. Ice. Cold
      [–]Rizzpooch 14 points15 points16 points  (2 children)
      Betting on his future while simultaneously crippling him. It's a bold strategy, Cotton.
      [–]beniceorbevice 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      Crippling him? The credit score is average. As long as she's paying all the bills on time she's doing him a favor and he'll be able to get loans and credit about 100x faster and better than his friends.
      [–]Rizzpooch 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      To be fair, the reason his peers wont be given loans or high credit limits at a young age has a lot to do with the level of responsibility and the statistical likelihood of their being able to pay their debts. So, even if his mother continues to be responsible with his credit - which, given her irresponsibility in beginning the illegal practice in the first place, seems unlikely - setting him up with a 35 year old's credit isn't necessarily a good thing if OP acts like, say, your average 18 year old typically does. Would you rather start out fresh at 18, open a credit card, and have a 750-800 credit score by 19, or would you rather start out with a 653 not knowing whether there are debts your mom isn't telling you about or whether she's going to suddenly stop using your information when you turn 18?
      [–]thundercuntrol 46 points47 points48 points  (2 children)
      Deal with it now. It is my understanding that you aren't old enough for a credit card and she probably is authorized on the account or something. Contact each cc company and tell them you are 17 and have never opened up a credit card in your life. Maybe they will just tell her they looked into it and discovered you weren't old enough, or maybe they do something worse but you can always say to your mom if she asks, yeah, somebody stole my identity I think because I was contacted by the credit card company asking me how old I am and if I've ever had any credit cards...it's pretty serious and if you're worried about fallout from your mom you can play dumb and say it was part of a class project to check your scores...I don't know just trying to help.
      [–]Kingfisher_ybw 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Do it now, as currently there is no discussion about you being underaged and thus unable to approve the transactions. The day after you are 18, your mother can claim you gave your consent.
      [–]B0ssc0 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I think that's good advice.
      [–]Rbnarc 46 points47 points48 points  (0 children)
      Hate to say this, but your mother is a criminal. This behavior will not be something that will just suddenly stop. Getting the police involved is a good option. It won't help your relationship at all, but your mother is breaking the law at your expense.
      [–]Maybesoyours 30 points31 points32 points  (3 children)
      Freeze your credit now with each of the 3 bureaus. Then call each card and issue a fraud alert. It's better to do this all now before you turn 18 so that it's clear that you can't be responsible for all the charges.
      If your mom already filed bankruptcy in the past, there's no way she's be a good creditor on your behalf. Talk to her afterwards in a firm tone to ensure that she stops and protect yourself from here on out. Your credit will be frozen but she still has all your information.
      [–]lysergic_gandalf_666 12 points13 points14 points  (2 children)
      Do this OP. It all goes away instantly when you are 17. Call when you are 17. Do it.
      [–]Blacksm1th 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      What goes away?
      [–]lysergic_gandalf_666 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      IANAL but at age 17, notifying each credit bureau that you are 17 erases the debt, and also erases the item from your credit report, because the debt/account was never legal due to OP being a minor. And additionally, this is identity theft (the minor didn't even do it).
      [–]Very_Blunt 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
      I had this happen to me when I was 16. My mom opened up a fingerhut account, wrote a big check with my checkbook from my first and second bank promising to give me the money, took out a att cellphone plan when they first started out and defaulted on 900 dollars, etc the list goes on and on. Point is I'm currently 27,can't even sign up for a bank account, can't buy a proper car, and. had a hell of a time finding an apt. My mom had many issues and I loved her dearly regardless but she ruined me financially. Do something OP don't make the same mistake I did even if you involve the police. You don't want to end up like me.
      [–]B0ssc0 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
      I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm glad it didn't ruin your relationship with your mum. Couldn't you have shown that you weren't responsible for the debts she incurred given your age and the dates these were incurred?
      [–]Very_Blunt 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      It's a long story. I was a dumb kid who had no idea you could do this and who didn't want my mom to get into trouble. My mom was dealing with a whole set of issues that I didn't want to rock the boat.
      [–]Sephran 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
      Hi OP,
      I get where you are coming from and yah its best to play it safe, but from all i've read/heard. Dealing with this NOW would be best. If you wait and put it off, banks could be dicks because you arn't right now underage (yah i don't get how that works, math is hard for banks...).
      Clearly right now, you are underage and could not do these things, you need to call the banks, tell them this and close the accounts. File a police report if needed etc.
      I know this sucks, maybe theres another way to help protect your mother, but you have hopefully 80+ more years of life and this could royally fck all that up.
      Theres also no guarantee if you leave it, that she will not continue to do this, now or after you are gone.
      I believe student loans are based on debt and other things (i'm not American, so maybe its different there), so yah it could affect them if they see the scores, especially if you didn't mark it down.
      [–]Infiltrator41 9 points10 points11 points  (2 children)
      I believe contract law prevents you from being on the hook for any of this because you can't legally enter into any of the agreements your parents signed you into. You're too young, not of legal age. If the credit grantors won't play ball take them to court. They'll lose.
      [–]Krugmanite [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Correct. Elements of a contract are: (1) offer, (2) acceptance, (3) consideration, (4) for lawful purposes, (5) where each party mutually understands the conditions of the contract--the so-called "meeting of the minds"-- and is of (6) legal age and (7) not under duress or other mental incapacity. There's also a documentation requirement for certain kinds of contracts, as set out by the statute of frauds.
      [–]buildmeupbreakmedown 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      If the credit grantors won't play ball take them to court. They'll lose.
      OP probably can't afford a good lawyer. There are good odds that the companies will win in court simply because they have better lawyers. You never know what goes on inside a judge's head. He could be convinced, for example, that OP was in on the fraud and is now just seeking to get some extra money off of the defendants now that he's turning 18 and the scam has to stop. I've seen dumber rulings.
      [–]IllBrujo 24 points25 points26 points  (1 child)
      Your mom sounds like a scumbag. Report her to the police and social services.
      [–]oldpythonbestpython -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      Ah, the ol' "send your parents to prison" strategy. Definitely the first stop when dealing with a fucked up family situation.
      [–]DearTrophallaxis 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
      I had the same thing happen to me. I had moved out of the house very early as a teen and had no idea my mom was using my SSN for bank accounts and credit cards. Then at 17 when I went to see if I could open my first account at a credit union so that I could use direct deposit for my paychecks. They turned me down because I had 17k worth of debt and showed me the credit report. Surprise!
      In my case, my mom was in a tough spot. I definitely wasn't going to rat her out in court or anything. For the bulk of the debt, I contacted the bank and told them I was underage and had no knowledge of ever signing up, etc. it took persistence cause they kept tossing me to different representatives but the bank took the debt off my report (it was Bank of America). There were relatively smaller debts, like utilities that didnt negotiate. But after a couple years they just disappeared off of my credit report anyway. Good luck with everything.
      [–]diarrheaticavenger 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
      I happen to be in the data breach/identity theft recovery business.
      Because this is a form of identity theft, you should treat it as such. What may be helpful is to look for a service/bank/credit union that offers identity theft protection and fully managed recovery. What this will provide you with is a professional that will do all the paperwork to have your credit cleaned and all this activity expunged. Many credit unions and banks off this service as a feature bundled in with their checking accounts. As a result the checking account may have a monthly service fee attached, but it's usually only $2-4
      Don't use lifelock (they don't provide recovery services and are much more expensive).
      Let me know what state you're in and I can do some research to find some options in your area.
      [–]travisstrick 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      Same thing happened to me. I went to buy a car at 19 and many lines of credit taken out over my whole life time.
      I filed a letter of dispute with each of the three credit reporting agencies and it was all wiped clean.
      Good luck to you.
      [–]BRG820 63 points64 points65 points  (42 children)
      If she's paying the bills on time, it'll show that you have a history of paying bills which will raise your credit. If she's not....you should make her stop.
      [–]v1nny 101 points102 points103 points  (27 children)
      The website gave me a report which stated that I had 5 credit cards, dating as far back as 2011, under my name along with a credit score of 648.
      With a credit score of 648, OPs mom is clearly not paying bills on time.
      [–]PubliusVA 15 points16 points17 points  (1 child)
      In fairness, there could be things other than late payment dragging the score down, like high credit utilization, too many inquiries, too many new accounts.
      [–]ChicagoPrim 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)
      all things considered 648 isn't that bad a score, it's definitely below average but it could be far worse considering the fact that this poor kid can't do anything about it
      [–]navifrog 17 points18 points19 points  (7 children)
      Not necessarily. I have never missed a payment but my credit score has dropped to that and below due to high balances and paying only minimums.
      [–]bmxtiger 33 points34 points35 points  (6 children)
      648 is a shit score for having 5 accounts open since 2011. Especially when you consider this is a fraud/identity theft case.
      [–]Thedirtyjersey 10 points11 points12 points  (1 child)
      It's not a non payment score either. That shit would be under 500...
      She probably is just floating the cards with high balances. If those down likely the score would shoot up
      [–]captainant 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Since she's been running a high balance since 2011 I don't think that's really an option for her...
      [–]navifrog 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      Agreed. I'm just saying that we can't assume late payments based on the score alone.
      [–]like_2_watch 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Why do you have your pitchforks out for something you know nothing about? OP got his score from CreditKarma, a website that peddles in bullshit scores. It gives you access to what's in your credit report, which is valuable to know, and it also gives a score that has no relation to the FICO scores banks see when you apply for credit. I have had my Credit Karma score depart from my FICO by over 100 points.
      [–]beniceorbevice 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      It's still better than almost half the country and it's a million times better than NONE at all when he's 18 and trying to get credit.
      [–]WNxVampire -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      It's not a good score, but couldn't it have easily been far lower if OP's mom was as bad with credit/money/finance/the law as it sounds?
      [–]Tfg1 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
      I thought a credit score of around 700 was good?
      [–]Stealthshot11 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
      It is, but with 5 cards being opened since 2011 it should be well above where his score is now
      [–]like_2_watch 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      You really don't know that based on the information provided. What is almost certain is that a blank credit history would be much harder to recover from.
      [–]LHS-337 0 points1 point2 points  (9 children)
      isn't that only 52 points from the highest possible score? i don't really understand how credit scores work but mine is 249 yet the only payment for anything ever in my life that wasn't paid on time was a 1 day late payment to paypal credit. i assumed that was normal but now i'm kind of freaked out.
      [–]karathracee 2 points3 points4 points  (3 children)
      The highest possibly score is 800-850, depending on which system you're using. I've actually never heard of a credit score being 249, I thought the lowest possible was 300-350. Where'd you check your credit score?
      [–]LHS-337 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
      maybe it's different for me because i'm in the UK then, i thought it was the same.
      i checked it here https://www.clearscore.com/
      [–]karathracee 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      That would definitely explain it! It seems like there is a broader range in possible UK scores (the site you linked grades from 0 to 700, but Experian in the UK lists 999 as its highest possible score). If you have questions about it, you could always post to /r/UKPersonalFinance as they will no doubt be more familiar with the standards there.
      [–]LHS-337 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      ok cool, thanks :)
      [–]QueenMergh 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
      Are you in the United States?
      [–]LHS-337 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
      no i'm in the UK, so maybe it's different. i know nothing about this kind of stuff.
      [–]QueenMergh 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      It is different. I can't advise you on what is good/bad in the UK because it's a different structure in the States. Here, your score would be bottomed out never getting a loan for a pack of gum bad.
      [–]LHS-337 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      damn. i managed to get a loan a couple of weeks ago, so i guess my score can't be too bad.
      [–]Stealthshot11 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I believe the max is 850
      [–]beniceorbevice 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Op is 17 and has a better credit score than half of the entire country, as long as she keeps paying the bills she's doing him a beautiful favor he won't ever need to open up a new credit card, and he'll be able to get loans 100x easier and faster than all his friends.
      [–]Thedirtyjersey -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
      648? Usually when you start out with no credit history you're at 700 flat, opening accounts reduces your average history length.
      Running up 5 cards under this kids name and paying none of them, with so little OK time history would put it in the 400s...
      The bottom score is 350, top 850, 650 isn't nearly as unreasonable as you might think since a lot more than payment is included in the score...
      [–]Verhexxen 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      35% is credit utilization. That cam drop it quickly.
      [–]like_2_watch 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Paying utility bills and credit card bills are 180 degrees different in this respect. So your link says nothing about the situation.
      [–]masalafries 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
      The post says she included one of their accounts in a bankruptcy.
      She is definitely not helping.
      [–]like_2_watch 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      Her bankruptcy may have motivated the theft. That means it wouldn't be part of his credit history.
      [–]masalafries 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      If one of his accounts is included IN the bankruptcy, that means this behavior pre-dates the bankruptcy.
      She's been pulling this shit for years.
      [–]Nitr0m4n 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Haha ah did you even read the post? His credit score is 648. There's no way she's paying bills on time.
      [–]My_Name_Is_Steven 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I also know that years ago (when I was around 7-9 years old), a Verizon account for my family was under MY name and was closed during a bankruptcy in 2008.
      History of bankruptcy combined with this behavior doesn't bode well for the kid.
      [–]dirteemac -42 points-41 points-40 points  (6 children)
      That's what I'm saying, how many 17 year olds have any established credit at all? I'd make her stop, what she's doing is wrong, but she's also helped you out in a way as well, if you are responsible with your credit your score could be in the 800's in your early to mid 20's.
      [–]GoingSavageLike 85 points86 points87 points  (1 child)
      She didn't help him out. She fucked him over for her own benefit. Don't confuse the kid. She's a narcissistic oppurtunists who doesn't care one bit about him. I guarantee she can't pay them off and is likely paying the minimum. People who make bad financial decisions don't start making good ones after stealing someones credit.
      [–]buildmeupbreakmedown 11 points12 points13 points  (0 children)
      People who make bad financial decisions don't start making good ones after stealing someones credit.
      People who make good financial decisions won't steal their childrens' credit in the first place. And why five different cards (in addition to however many she has in her own name)? Clearly she is mishandling things and OP needs to disassociate himself from this hot mess ASAP.
      [–]bmxtiger 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
      Identity theft and fraud do not help people out.
      [–]accentadroite_bitch 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      That's not smart. I got my first credit card at 18; I'm 25 now with a credit score in the low 800s. There's no reason to allow her to keep these accounts open solely for the reason of building credit. It is fraud.
      [–]algbs3 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Given that there are already bills not being paid on time, she has not helped him out in any way. It will be incredibly difficult for him to reach a score even close to that in that time frame with these things on record already. Just having established credit for the sake of established credit is not good when it's bad established credit. My credit score was higher than his within like half a year (prob less) when I got my first CC at 18 and paid in full every month. So no. Now that he has these late payments and the bankruptcy closed account, this is going to be a huge upward climb.
      [–]DexterFoley 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      5 cards!
      [–]alonesomestreet 43 points44 points45 points  (6 children)
      A good first step would be to go to the bank where the cards are registered and talk to an advisor. Tell them the whole story and see how it's going. They would be better suited to handling this, and can probably recommend legal action (as, unless I am mistaken, this is identity theft, pure and simple.)
      [–]paraballein 9 points10 points11 points  (3 children)
      The bank where the cards are registered is not a neutral party here. This is extraordinarily bad advice.
      [–]Sigivia 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
      They are humans not soulless scammers.
      [–]hansdieter44 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Who has a soul and becomes a banker?
      Jokes aside, the bank is not a neutral party, thats like going to negotiate with the other parties lawyer in a lawsuit. Sure he is a lawyer, but he is not on your side.
      [–]intentsman 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Banks are not human beings and banks have no soul. The miserable employees however, are human beings. They don't want to get fired for violating company policies. Maybe you can find a sympathetic human being employed at a bank, but their sympathy can only go so far.
      [–]lysergic_gandalf_666 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
      I disagree. A bank can't even really talk to a minor about this, or anything else.
      [–]shwastedd 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
      Ummm you know you can have a bank account at 16
      [–]higmage 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
      If you don't close all of those accounts before you turn 18 YOUR LIFE WILL BE RUINED.
      Your "mother" is destroying your credit and your future with it because she is selfishly wasting money on herself at your expense. Once your 18th birthday hits, all that damage she's done? Your problem now. And you know what she'll do? She'll throw you out of the house, keep using your credit, and stop paying the bills, because she doesn't have to anymore, its your problem.
      You need to do what is right, just, and moral, and have every single card, utility, service, and loan cut off and canceled immediately and you need to file a police report.
      She should never have done this, and this disqualifies her from any consideration you think she might deserve because she's "family."
      She is no longer your family, she is not your mother. She is a thief and a liar who is actively trying to destroy your life. Make her stop, because otherwise she won't. And when this happens, don't let her lie and manipulate you by saying "she did it for you" or calling you "selfish" for shutting off her internet or whatever. She can't handle money and that doesn't give her the rights to TOTALLY FUCK UP THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
      [–]intentsman 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Yeah, OP should turn off the water and electricity in his mom's rented house where he also lives. Great idea.
      [–]Recklesslettuce 12 points13 points14 points  (0 children)
      Tell the police. They have procedures for identity theft. I assume you've already talked to your mother and made sure it's not a misunderstanding.
      [–]Epeic 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      How is this even possible???
      [–]alexinedh 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      This happened to me. I didn't find out about it until I was 22. If I were a minor, I'm sure things would have been different. I hope you can get it fixed easily. My mom did it by saying she had intentions to build me credit, but she ended up tanking it. I can't even rent an apartment now because I was evicted from a house I never lived in. She's still paying me back 500 dollars per month to pay off her 46000 dollars in debt. Best of luck, hope it gets a better resolution than mine did.
      [–]DullBolphin 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      you need to put a stop to this. years ago I made the mistake of allowing my worthless father to use my SS# "temporarily" after his bankruptcy. 25 years later, he's dead and I'm left with my "patrimony" - IRS debts and a completely chaotic and fucked up mess because the debts he incurred to the IRS under my SS# are now my problem.
      Get out of that situation now while you're young and save yourself. Taking care of your parents is NOT your responsibility. (at least before they've reached the age when they need hospice care - you're certainly not responsible for fixing their financial problems at any rate~!).
      [–]FirefighterJose 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      I can't imagine doing something like this to my son... I wish you the best of luck op, I'm sorry your dealing with this.
      [–]ukstonerguy 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      As a brit who frequents this subreddit. Why does this scenario happen so often? How can a parent use someone who is under age as details? Surely the companies have checks and if ussing an SSN it says instantly of someone is underage to take on a credit agreement? Also as none were signed for by the individual how is it a legal devt that can be collected on shluld the worst happen? This seems like a massive hole that can be easily solved? Wtf.
      [–]KingMong 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      if shes not paying, going bankrupt etc, shes messing your credit, you need to report her for fraud and identity theft, you are gonna have a hard time starting a life.
      [–]calismic 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      When I was 23 years old (2003) I went to purchase my first car. I wanted to finance it and thought I'd have no problems as I only had a single credit card which I paid off regularly. When the finance manager pulled my credit history he made a face I'll never forget. He printed out a copy for me and said it was simply not possible that I'd ever get a loan. There were FOUR defaults on my report, for a combined amount of close to $20k. I broke down right there. I'd never had any of the cards mentioned.
      I got home, got my self calmed down and started researching. First thing I did was contact the companies responsible. Two of them didn't even exist anymore (those internet CC companies that were all the rage). The other two provided information regarding the card holder. Turns out, my step-father, who my mom had long since divorced, had been taking out credit cards in his name using my social security information. He used someone else's address so I never saw the bills, nor the late notices, nor the collection attempts.
      I gathered as much information as I could from the credit card companies and the collection agencies that now had the debt. Contacting the collection agencies was a BIG mistake on my part. Had I known how horribly shady they were I would have never done it. But I was young and naive then. I opened reports with the 3 credit agencies in hopes of getting the marks pulled from my credit. There were a lot of smaller steps in between, including a lot of certified letters to credit card and collection companies. Trans Union was fabulous. They responded promptly, saw that I was underage that the time the cards were taken out, saw that the debt was beyond the statute of limitations and quickly removed the marks. Experian and Equifax, ya.....they suck. I'd say it took me a good year to get all of the marks removed from my reports with them. Neither company however would increase my score. Even after admitting I was not liable for the debt, they left my score in the dirt.
      I wish I could remember how low the number went, but by the time I had everything removed it was a 520. I spent a decade to get that number repaired. I kept my little credit card with the $500 limit I opened when I was 18. I still have that card today, and its 18 year credit history has helped tremendously.
      The moral of this story? GET THOSE CARDS OUT OF YOUR NAME. Your score WILL get worse, and I do not wish the pain and hassle of having to fight reporting agencies on anyone. It was torture! You will have problems getting student loans, you will have problems renting an apartment, you will have problems buying a home one day. Your mom is committing identity theft. She needs to know what she is doing is very illegal and can hurt you for years to come!
      [–]masalafries 7 points8 points9 points  (7 children)
      OP, do not do anything until you turn 18.
      The people here instructing you to go after your mother right now are being awfully cavalier about telling you to firebomb your relationship with your family while you are still underage and have no choice in your living arrangements.
      You are absolutely right, you are vulnerable to retaliation from your parents if you pursue this now. This could result in serious legal trouble for your mother, and I don't want her taking it out on you. You have no idea how she is going to react or what she will do.
      This is not time sensitive in the respect that you are compelled to report it immediately, especially since you are underage.
      It will not affect Federal Student loans, as they not based on credit history, they are based on need/income. There are dozens of kinds of loans - but generally speaking loans made to students are not based on credit history (because students have none) but private loans to parents do.
      I'm sorry you have to go through this OP, you have been put in a terrible situation. The only silver lining is that because of your age, at least you won't have to prove that the accounts are not yours like older people do.
      [–]r_u_dinkleberg 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
      Is it worth the increased difficulty of absolving these debts after OP turns 18, though?
      I'm lazy, I'd want the path of least resistance - And that's freezing all that shit while they're still 17, isn't it?
      For me, future > family. I realize for some, family > future.
      [–]randomguy3383 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
      Retaliation is a real thing, and you're right to be worried about it. I would ask myself what benefit there is to acting now vs acting in a year.
      [–]jaylittle 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Yeah this happened to a good friend of mine. His father used his identity for years while he was a minor (they had the same name) to prop up his shitty credit. It took him years to get all of it expunged from his credit reports. I'm truly sorry that it is happening to you as I've seen firsthand how difficult it is to cope and grapple with something like this.
      [–]Topdeckedlethal 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      This is disgusting, personally I would have done her in for fraud
      [–]blastuponsometerries 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      You might actually want to ask your mother. Unless there is some abnormally bad history there.
      The legitimate reason to do this is to help your credit score, but of course the bankruptcy ruined that. Was your mother trying to set you up and screwed it up? Or is she actively ruining your future for personal gain. These are two very different things.
      [–]ChildishSerpent 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      You don't have to worry about retaliation. Your mother is going to jail.
      [–]marzblaqk 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      This happened to my friend. His mom had 20,000 in debt in his name and he didnt know until he was 23 and ready to start paying his student loans.
      He ran away to Belize and makes pickles. He's happier than ever but he can't really come back to the US ever.
      [–]mydpy 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Counterpoint: If you add the birth year to the SSN it could lead to discrimination on the basis of age. For example, I conceal the years my degrees were conferred when I'm applying for jobs.
      [–]floridadude123 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      There are a lot of people saying this is really hard to fix, but it's not that bad in this case. I've seen it and helped deal with.
      It's three steps:
      a. Get an official complete copy of your credit report from each of the three national credit reporting agencies (not from Credit Karma) . This will be free. But you can't do easily until you are 18. It's okay to wait until you are exactly 18. There is no time limit on reporting or dealing with fraud.
      b. File a police report. Get an identity theft affidavit signed by an officer. It will include all fraudulent accounts from your credit report.
      c. The copy of the credit report, the police report, the affidavit, and a cover letter goes to the disputes department of the three major credit reporting agencies. Under the applicable Federal law, they have a matter of days to provisionally remove the information, block it from ever re-appearing, and place a fraud alert and a freeze on your file. Once that is done, your file will be reset back to empty, just like any 18 year old should have.
      It is a total myth that you have to make sure your mom goes to jail, or that she will go to jail. The fact is that you have to co-operate with police, but you don't have to hand them your mom on silver platter. You don't have to speculate. You don't have to do it at home, your mom doesn't have to be involved. You can go down to your local police station on your own and ask to speak to someone about filing an identity theft report.
      In probably 90% of cases, the police never do any work on the identity theft report. It will sit
      Once you do these steps, it will not impact you long term.
      Good luck.
      [–]iPoopedJustNow 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Your mother is a degenerate that has aimed to ruin your future :(
      I hope you resolve this situation and clear up your history.
      [–]TEOTAUY [score hidden]  (1 child)
      She was willing to put you in legal peril. Of course in these situations she will think she's the victim and you're the bad guy if you file a police report. But you must do so.
      And getting the police involved now will actually help her from doing more and worse. Get it in her head that this is a bad move.
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      [–]stuie382 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      Bad credit can take years to fix and cause you a lot of problems. Like others have said, contact the various companies and make them aware that you are not an adult now, and you definitely were not back in 2007.
      If/when your mum starts to ask questions, it would be easy to play it off as your received a marketing call or something from one of the companies and 'the system' did it's thing once you confirmed to them you're a minor.
      I'm not familiar with the American system, but do what you can to secure your personal information and keep it secret. Good luck
      [–]djkibbl3z 2 points3 points4 points  (6 children)
      Dude, have a talk with your mom, and let her know how you feel about her messing with your credit. Trust me if you just leave when you turn 18, i don't think that will change anything, she never asked your consent before, who's to say she's gonna stop when you get older and out if her sight? To me she's always gonna have you, I mean your credit, as a financial backer when she feels like she might need some extra cash. That's your mom dude, tell her wassup!!
      [–]borderlineandsuicida 4 points5 points6 points  (5 children)
      the really shitty/sad part about this is that parents who are willing to do this to their kids will probably never even admit it, much less change anything.
      my mom still denies the fact she raided my college fund left for me by my grandparents. i've shown her evidence proving without a shadow of a doubt that she stole the money from me. 100% refuses to admit it. she makes up some bullshit excuse about it being "invested" and says she won't give the money to me until i'm "financially mature", which is rich coming from a woman who got fired from every job she's ever had after a couple of weeks and lived on trust fund money into her 50s, where she now comfortably leeches off my step dad.
      it's really frustrating, but often the only way to deal with parents fucking you like this is to lawyer up or move on. both options are fucking horrific for a parent to put a kid through.
      [–]Lxvpq 2 points3 points4 points  (4 children)
      Man do I feel like I have good parents when I read stuff like that. And they had their very fair share of problems but never took my money lol actually my mom pissed me off so much, she would tell me to stop spending it all the time and save it. It was so annoying yet today, I'm 26, no debts, life is fine. No monetary stress, I'm not rich, but I'm not living paycheck to paycheck.
      [–]borderlineandsuicida 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
      well, having parents screw you over for their own wants/needs does do a good job of teaching self reliance, if nothing else. i'm in a similar position... not rich, but not in debt. bums me out that i'm going to have to spend years of my life saving up for trade school that the money left for me would easily have covered, but i can't change anything. my mom still wonders why i don't talk to her anymore though. people who do this to family live in their own delusional worlds where everything revolves around them. if it's a choice, just cutting off contact is the way to go.
      like you said, posts like OPs put things in perspective. i was lucky my credit wasn't damaged, it sucks having that much money stolen from you by a parent, but at least it won't prevent me from being self reliant, like a shitty credit score might.
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