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WikiLeaks has confirmed that Ecuador is responsible for cutting Julian Assange's internet access (bbc.com)
foodude84 が 15時間前 投稿
[–]palxma 2228ポイント2229ポイント2230ポイント 13時間前* (676子コメント)
It's interesting when you consider that one of the encrypted files wikileaks sent out today was entitled Ecuador, and after words Ecudaor publicly re-affirmed their commitment to protecting Assange.
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787781046519693316
[–]Knowakennedy 726ポイント727ポイント728ポイント 12時間前* (596子コメント)
Are these tweets not the keys to the deadman switch files? Has anybody tried using them to open the files?
Edit: I get it I don't know how to cyber
[–]MitchH87 699ポイント700ポイント701ポイント 12時間前 (525子コメント)
They are file hashes to ensure when the password is released that the files haven't been tampered with
[–]Wang_Dong 384ポイント385ポイント386ポイント 12時間前 (515子コメント)
More specifically, I bet that they're a notice to the targeted parties of exactly what Wikileaks has and intends to publish. It's a very specific threat.
[–]PM_ME_UR_REDDIT_GOLD 433ポイント434ポイント435ポイント 12時間前 (506子コメント)
why would they be making threats instead of releasing what they have? Isn't Wikileaks about transparency? Why are they picking and choosing what they release?
[–]07hogada 666ポイント667ポイント668ポイント 12時間前 (99子コメント)
When Wikileaks releases something, they tend to keep something 'bigger' back, to prevent reprisals. This dead man's switch that Assange has is part of that. If he is not able to connect to the internet and reset the switch, the data is released, causing headaches all around.
In this way, he protects himself from assassination/kidnap, unless someone with the power to stop him decides that the release won't be so bad for them, but worse for any rival nations/companies.
The threat might be Assange going "this is the info I have on you, give me back the internet now or this becomes public." in an attempt to force Ecuador to back down.
[–]Jebbediahh 233ポイント234ポイント235ポイント 9時間前 (32子コメント)
Good answer.
And it addresses the ethical problems inherent in this sort of situation. Does he get to play God, deciding what earth shattering truths make it to the light of day - and what shady characters get to keep on doing evil, unethical shit? The only ethical thing to do would be release it all, but to leave him so unprotected would be suicidal. Do you have to be willing to not just give up your life as you know it and live in exile, but to lose your life entirely, in order to be ethical? To be a hero with no qualifiers? Fuck, no one sane would do it. Which means we never have any leaks or whistle blowers, and corruption would steamroll on.
So what are we to do?
[–]bonerfiedmurican 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
It could be unethical to release all the data as well. Perhaps outrage for something would be so bad that it could create instability and war in certain powerful countries
[–]Wang_Dong 331ポイント332ポイント333ポイント 12時間前 (129子コメント)
Because if they release everything, there's little incentive not to kill him. I'd suggest that they have a handful of the juiciest stuff saved just to make sure that they're not harmed.
The bigger question might be, out of the things that they intend to release, why are they holding back?
The answer is probably two-fold:
A single massive information dump only has to be really be covered up and forgotten about once. It's the difference between Mike Tyson punching you in the face one time, and Ronda Rousey punching you in the face bi-weekly over the course of years.
Like anyone else with power, they seem to have an agenda. Whether that's good or bad or whatever... I don't know, and as long as what they release is true, I don't really care. Any politician with something to hide deserves to be outed, and I'm not moved by objections that it's somehow unfair to out one politician without outing the other.
[–]mellowmarcos 110ポイント111ポイント112ポイント 12時間前 (19子コメント)
It's the fucking Fulcrum. WHERE IS REDDINGTON
[–]Boats_of_Gold 38ポイント39ポイント40ポイント 11時間前 (4子コメント)
Wasn't the Fulcrum in Chuck also? I miss Chuck.
[–]kustomize 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
It was an organisation in Chuck, in the Blacklist it's an archive of the global elite's secrets.
[–]KingRhombus 99ポイント100ポイント101ポイント 12時間前 (12子コメント)
That's exactly how I explained it to my niece.
[–]ForgotMyFathersFace 69ポイント70ポイント71ポイント 10時間前 (4子コメント)
Dude, you just found your nieces account!
[–]dubblya 173ポイント174ポイント175ポイント 11時間前 (49子コメント)
The issue isn't whether it's fair for the politicians with something to hide. The issue is that a supposed agenda could have negative effects on society. Let's say that politician A has minor skeletons and is an opponent of Wikileaks. And politician B has major skeletons but is not an opponent of Wikileaks. If Wikileaks has an agenda, they out A, but not B. Now, society distrusts A, and still trusts B, even though B is the more dangerous.
Nothing Wilileaks released in this scenario is false, but they control public opinion and potentially steer society into trouble.
The lack of transparency is troubling. Whenever there is a lack of transparency, people should be skeptical.
[–]ItsMeCaptainMurphy 77ポイント78ポイント79ポイント 11時間前 (30子コメント)
If someone leaked something to wikileaks, and wikileaks refused to publish it for political reasons, said person could just leak it elsewhere along with the fact that wikileaks refused to release it, which would pretty much destroy wikileaks in terms of credibility.
That honestly isn't all that much of a concern. Of greater concern would be people selectively leaking things to wikileaks in order to damage a specific candidate and holding back other information, but there is nothing wikileaks could do about that scenario.
[–]ChiefFireTooth 71ポイント72ポイント73ポイント 9時間前 (10子コメント)
said person could just leak it elsewhere along with the fact that wikileaks refused to release it,
You make that sound as if Wikileaks is part of a worldwide market of whistleblower news outlets with plenty of alternatives and if you don't like it, you can take your business down the road.
[–]sorry_I_said_that 883ポイント884ポイント885ポイント 12時間前x2 (194子コメント)
Wikileaks is very much a political player. If they have something to gain by withholding information, their value of "transparency" falls to the wayside.
[–]WiglyWorm 560ポイント561ポイント562ポイント 12時間前 (110子コメント)
In this case, the thing they have to gain by withholding information is Julian Assange's continued existence.
[–]Lokan 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
Moreover, once the files are released, he has nothing left after that. It's a safeguard that can only be used once. He doesn't want to release it any more than "they" do.
[–]PoissonTriumvirate 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm willing to forgive them a bit of selective distribution given that it's the only thing keeping Assange out of prison and/or alive.
[–]Usernametaken112 58ポイント59ポイント60ポイント 12時間前 (25子コメント)
Information is power.
Wikileaks is leveraging their information for the greatest return.
[–]dezgavoo 50ポイント51ポイント52ポイント 12時間前 (32子コメント)
its the filehash
[–]BostAnon 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 12時間前 (27子コメント)
what's a filehash?
[–][deleted] 39ポイント40ポイント41ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
No, but I know why you would think so. They're for verification of an upcoming document release.
[–]threwawhale 55ポイント56ポイント57ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
After which words?
[–]Scherzono1 5446ポイント5447ポイント5448ポイント 13時間前* (409子コメント)
Hey I'm Ecuadorian, look who's finally slightly relevant. e: wtf so many upvotes. ENVY ME FELLOW ECUADORIANS
[–]snugalufalus 1788ポイント1789ポイント1790ポイント 12時間前 (32子コメント)
Way to go dude!
[–]CaptainKyloStark 318ポイント319ポイント320ポイント 11時間前 (17子コメント)
My man!
[–]whattheheckistha 168ポイント169ポイント170ポイント 10時間前 (14子コメント)
Slow down!
[–]ryanmich 139ポイント140ポイント141ポイント 8時間前 (12子コメント)
Lookin' good!
[–]Helt-Texas 33ポイント34ポイント35ポイント 8時間前 (7子コメント)
[–]JustOneProletariat 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 8時間前 (6子コメント)
[–]the92playboy 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 8時間前 (5子コメント)
Hungry for apples?
[–]206Uber 653ポイント654ポイント655ポイント 12時間前 (169子コメント)
If Ecuador made the news more often the world would know about President Correa and we can't have that can we?
[–]PM_ME_STEAMGAMES_PLS 502ポイント503ポイント504ポイント 12時間前 (23子コメント)
Everytime we reach the front page we get 2%+ tax!
[–]PM--ME--STEAM--KEYS 130ポイント131ポイント132ポイント 10時間前 (17子コメント)
Everytime /r/Ecuador gets good original content Peru just steals it anyway
[–]tnturner 62ポイント63ポイント64ポイント 9時間前 (7子コメント)
Do you and the commenter above you know eachother?
[–]charb 376ポイント377ポイント378ポイント 11時間前* (65子コメント)
Ecuador's History is far more interesting.
Shameless plug for the Book my father wrote (which is never slightly relevant). Ecuador has one hell of a history. Starting from the treasure that makes the ending of National Treasure look like chump change, Nazi's, Government corruption and Military coup's there has been a hell of a lot of interesting events no one has probably heard of. I mean most people can't even find Ecuador on a map and here I am trying to convince people I'm serious when I tell them my father used to be a treasure hunter.
[–]BallardLockHemlock 186ポイント187ポイント188ポイント 11時間前 (18子コメント)
Give ya a hint. It's by the equator.
[–]GENITAL_MUTILATOR 99ポイント100ポイント101ポイント 11時間前 (6子コメント)
Mind=blown
[–]GetsGold 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 10時間前 (2子コメント)
They should call it Nearequat.
[–]ChiefFireTooth 34ポイント35ポイント36ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
I mean most people can't even find Ecuador on a map
Of course we can. It's that long line dividing the two halves of the globe. Your country is just really really long and really really thin, right?
[–]thekeifman27 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 11時間前 (14子コメント)
Does he have a bio somewhere? That would be a very interesting perspective of a country i know very little about.
[–]charb 87ポイント88ポイント89ポイント 10時間前* (13子コメント)
I don't think we will have many more people like my father. Not that he is exceptional, but sometimes you just exist without being part of the grid. You work jobs that are paid in cash, travel the world and perform odd jobs or live off the income you gained prior to travel. No Fancy Credentials, Degree, or College Diploma. Just a self made man, business owner, father and sometimes a schmuck (I guess those last two are the same).
His Kindle version is only $9.99, This book is his lifelong achievement. Self-published on Amazon, because getting a book written on treasure and the history of Ecuador isn't anything a big book company was interested in. He actually goes head to head with a few "respected" books on treasure claiming they are incorrect, cite impossible facts, or even reference that those people never met because historical records prove otherwise. Parts of his book is sometimes not that kind to Ecuador as a country so, there was little interest to even have someone publish it locally. A Story about treasure requires a little imagination and belief that the story you are listening to is true. His book reads more like a history book than a story, and it should. He has traveled all over to gain access to 100+ year old documents hidden away in old books or map rooms. The story is less about him and more about the legacy of the world class renowned treasure hunters of the time. He continued their journey where some left off and even acquired the entire collection of one of the most revered individuals of the time. he owns the copyright data on all of those maps and documents, so I suppose that is probably the only proof anyone can provide. I had the tedious task of taking all his cassette taps from the 70's and 80's and converting them to digital media. Endless hours of treasure hunters sitting in a room discussing so many things in great detail. Most of the people within that circle who read his book were amazed at how well he documented the history. Rather interesting when you have 80 and 90 year old men writing emails back and forth as they "remember" more and more details, excited as school children to share stories they never would have told each other at the time. Treasure Hunters were never good at sharing information/secrets.
This book has so much stuff crammed in it, they should make it required reading. (He actually does talk about Assange at the end). He talks about Charles Darwin and the Galapagos Islands, George Miller Dyott, whose Wikipedia page is a horrible insult to an amazing man of his time. Eugene Brenner (the main focal point of the story), who fought against the Nazi's in the resistance and then hunted them down after the war in Ecuador. And how can we not of course, talk about the treasure itself? Atahualpa and Pizzaro (The famous conquistador). He includes first hand stories of conquistadors and there accounts of the treasure, and most importantly more recent times. My memory is a bit hazy, but I recall a story about the military was divided into 3 factions. The Army, The Navy, and The Airforce. They would always go back and forth against who hated who and IIRC even fought a civil war against each other. I don't remember if that was the Ecuador Civil war or part of the 63 or 76 coup. So many stories I've heard they just jumble together sometimes. I can't even remember if the story was about my Father or Eugene, but one of them was pulled out of a taxi at gun point by some soldiers and fortunately they happened to have a brief case with the DOD or some other logo on it who they just happened to be loyal to and escorted them out of the mayhem.
His book is a hard read for some and it is a very niche market of stories. If anyone does buy a copy, if you left a review that would make his day. it is insanely detailed and it should be for something he wrote over and over again for 10 years.
[–]Foos47DCC 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 10時間前 (5子コメント)
What treasures was he trying to find and stuff
[–]Sudi_Nim 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Excellent plug.
[–]iamafanofsecretriver 90ポイント91ポイント92ポイント 12時間前 (20子コメント)
My wife is a full Ecuadorian. Should I know about this guy?
[–]snarkyfide 241ポイント242ポイント243ポイント 12時間前 (13子コメント)
It's only important that he knows about your wife
[–]iamafanofsecretriver 58ポイント59ポイント60ポイント 12時間前 (9子コメント)
Not sure why the president of Ecuador would be interested in my wife, but more power to him I guess.
[–]41145and6 69ポイント70ポイント71ポイント 11時間前 (8子コメント)
She's been chosen to bear his heirs.
[–]All_My_Loving 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
He's reinstating Prima Nocta.
[–]crooked_clinton 158ポイント159ポイント160ポイント 12時間前 (46子コメント)
President Correa
Also known as Kim Jong-Un
[–]OfcrChapin 109ポイント110ポイント111ポイント 11時間前 (14子コメント)
Supreme Leader is president of many countries
[–]lualesca 62ポイント63ポイント64ポイント 11時間前 (8子コメント)
He just presents himself in different shapes.
[–]kartuli78 58ポイント59ポイント60ポイント 11時間前 (13子コメント)
The media should start referring to him as Kim Jeong Eun since that would be the way to romanize his name according to the official style of South Korea. I bet that would really piss him off.
[–]erizzluh 112ポイント113ポイント114ポイント 12時間前 (13子コメント)
Ecuador by Sash is the only frame of reference I have about your country.
I hope that song is your national anthem.
[–]cashfortrash 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
I feel old because I remember when he changed his name from Sash to Sash!
I feel old and I kinda like it.
[–]northshore12 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
So that's where Jeb! got the idea.
[–]Going_Live 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Ecua DORRRR?
[–]jambox888 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
Ctrl+F Sash... not disappoint
[–]SrVishi 49ポイント50ポイント51ポイント 12時間前 (11子コメント)
My entire mom's side is Ecuadorian, and everytime I mention that to someone, I get "oh uh, that country close to Colombia?"
[–]BootyBoots2 53ポイント54ポイント55ポイント 11時間前 (8子コメント)
You can tell them that the Equatorial line that divides the Earth into north and south hemispheres passes through Ecuador, for a reference...
And yes, it neighbors Colombia.
[–]DrGarrious 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
Yeah and you smashed Chile last week. Two weeks in a row for you mate.
[–]cigar_box_treasures 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Fuck, that was a glorious win!
[–]b183729 43ポイント44ポイント45ポイント 12時間前 (3子コメント)
Well, my country still has lots of corruption plots to uncover, and with those we can make world news whenever we want to!
Nobody is beating Venezuela though.
[–]bncngd 72ポイント73ポイント74ポイント 12時間前 (7子コメント)
Don't worry, /u/scherzono1. I'm sure you're always slightly relevant to someone :)
[–]edmond_dantes54 28ポイント29ポイント30ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
I went to Ecuador in my teenage years and it's one of the most friendly and beautiful places in the world! You're always on my mind
[–]Ginnipe 537ポイント538ポイント539ポイント 12時間前 (338子コメント)
Can someone give me the ELI5 Of what the fuck any of this shit is?
[–]Insectshelf3 869ポイント870ポイント871ポイント 12時間前* (322子コメント)
Julian assange runs a website called Wikileaks that publishes secrets and stuff. They recently got their hands on a ton of emails related to Hillary Clinton and have been leaking them in parts (I think 10 now) now, of course a bunch of governments really fucking hate this guy. So he managed to strike a deal with Ecuador to say in their embassy in London. Since 2012 they've kept him there under their protection with the basic agreement being "don't start stirring shit up, and we won't kick you out." As if recent they've leaked a boatload of emails regarding Hillary, her foundation, and a bunch of other things. So now he has no internet.
This is just how i understand it. I'm probably not 100% correct.
EDIT: here's the reason he's in the embassy in the first place (thanks /u/mph88delorean )
/u/mph88delorean : He's in the embassy because he doesn't want to answer for rape allegations that were closed but reopened against the accusers wishes as a ploy to extradit him to the US. Even the UN says it's a bullshit excuse to grab him.
[–]alu_pahrata 498ポイント499ポイント500ポイント 11時間前 (115子コメント)
On top of that, he has a dead man's switch. Every 24 hours he has to activate it, or else it will assume that he is dead, and release the password to decrypt some 90 GB leak. Pretty damn good way ensure your survival if you ask me.
[–]XxsquirrelxX 309ポイント310ポイント311ポイント 9時間前 (9子コメント)
Knowing myself, I'd forget to activate the dead man's switch, and wake up a minute after in a cold swear realizing I fucked up real bad.
[–]shouldbdan 172ポイント173ポイント174ポイント 9時間前 (4子コメント)
That's when say, "Hah! You think that was something? That was only 10% of what I have! The rest of it's on my dead man's switch."
[–]HoldingTheFire 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Conspiracy theorists having a LARP day today.
[+][削除されました] 13時間前 (48子コメント)
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[–]NetherMop 557ポイント558ポイント559ポイント 12時間前 (17子コメント)
That would utterly crash the meme economy.
[–]recruit00 58ポイント59ポイント60ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
Didn't you hear? After Pepe.inc was found donating to nazi groups, it's stocks crashed 50%! This just shows that he is terrible at managing his portfolio.
[–]PrivateShitbag 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Short pepes. Go long on dickbutt
[–]CheshireC4t 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
I've lived through cripping pepe inflation. You don't want that.
[–]Zarathustra420 70ポイント71ポイント72ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
Oh my god
[–]Rephaite 729ポイント730ポイント731ポイント 13時間前 (37子コメント)
One of my favorite early comments on this issue was when someone pointed out that the Ecuadorian ambassador resetting the router would technically count as a "state actor."
And it's even funnier now that we know it's true.
[–]Lan777 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Assange accidentally tripped over his own 50 foot lan cable
[–]Iz-kan-reddit 155ポイント156ポイント157ポイント 11時間前 (13子コメント)
Cutting off the free WiFi to the guy who's freeloading on your couch for 5 years isn't really the actions of a "state actor."
His supporters are more than welcome to chip in for this: http://www.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-broadband/dongles-and-mobile-wi-fi/index.htm
[–]Rephaite 46ポイント47ポイント48ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
I'm sure that it only technically being a state actor (because Ecuador is a nation-state), while still not being even remotely like what most people meant who were repeating that phrase, was part of the intent of the initial joke.
But yeah. They're entitled to cut off his net if they want. They're even entitled to kick him out entirely, if they want. It's their embassy.
[–]0xc0ffea 3134ポイント3135ポイント3136ポイント 15時間前* (1121子コメント)
He could have simply broken an agreement he had with the embassy and this is their response.
Edit : holy Fuu .. <3 thank yous for the gold !!
[–]NUMBERS2357 3550ポイント3551ポイント3552ポイント 15時間前 (379子コメント)
Or Hillary could secretly be the President of Ecuador already.
[–]PTTGx4 318ポイント319ポイント320ポイント 13時間前 (57子コメント)
The deadman's switch isn't going to be good for anyone. Ecuador just wants to see the world burn.
[–]500redditaccts 684ポイント685ポイント686ポイント 12時間前 (40子コメント)
I bet the files say rich people are just like us and they just work harder.
[–]Alawishus 110ポイント111ポイント112ポイント 12時間前 (8子コメント)
You dastardly beast
[–]bored-on-the-toilet 98ポイント99ポイント100ポイント 12時間前 (6子コメント)
It'll reveal that rich people traditionally have larger boot straps. Makes it easier to pick themselves up.
[–]eigenman 41ポイント42ポイント43ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
I bet it's just more variations of John Podesta's Risotto recipes.
[–]Sheshanaga 512ポイント513ポイント514ポイント 13時間前 (3子コメント)
"You said you'd shower, Julian. I'm turning off the router until you shower - you smell like a wallaby".
'STOP CENSORING ME MOM"
[–]DorkMeister6000 184ポイント185ポイント186ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
"The 400lb hacker thing was a guess, not a suggestion."
"GIMME MY TENDIES!"
[–]SzechuanBeefCurtains 541ポイント542ポイント543ポイント 15時間前 (24子コメント)
A combination of 'My house, my rules' and 'Don't you think it's time you moved out on your own, son?'
[–]dj_kled 332ポイント333ポイント334ポイント 13時間前 (9子コメント)
"WTF, I was right in the middle of a game of Dota, Rafael!"
"Dude, internet was due, like, last week."
"I'll pay you as soon as my dad sends a check, brah. He totally owns a dealership."
"And you'll get the new password when that happens, Julian."
[–]Davezter 81ポイント82ポイント83ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
I bet Julian left the toilet seat up again. Classic Julian. Fucker has to learn.
[–]colinthompson 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
You can't save in the middle of a pokemon battle
[–]PedanticGoatReviews 86ポイント87ポイント88ポイント 13時間前 (3子コメント)
Is Julian Assange grounded? No Internet and video games for a whole month!
[–]burns29 1344ポイント1345ポイント1346ポイント 15時間前 (181子コメント)
They warned him not to play games while he was supposed to be doing his homework.
[–]refusetoargueonline 874ポイント875ポイント876ポイント 15時間前 (175子コメント)
This is actually close to the original agreement. Don't do extremely polarizing political acts and you're good, fuck around and you're in trouble.
Biting the hand that feeds.
[–]wearywarrior 215ポイント216ポイント217ポイント 14時間前 (42子コメント)
And that's all he does, so...
[–]refusetoargueonline 85ポイント86ポイント87ポイント 14時間前 (39子コメント)
So they cut him off at the knees.
[–]Scrotote 713ポイント714ポイント715ポイント 13時間前 (774子コメント)
What was the motivation behind Ecuador cutting his Internet off though? Isn't that still a big deal? Doesn't that not rule out that there was pressure on Ecuador from someone else to cut it off?
[–]locustghazi 838ポイント839ポイント840ポイント 13時間前 (580子コメント)
According to some of the top comments. The initial deal with Ecuador is for him to not pick one side in politics for the past year he has pretty much focus on us politics and specifically on Hillary Clinton.
[–]seanlax5 134ポイント135ポイント136ポイント 11時間前 (7子コメント)
According to some of the top comments
I wouldn't put too much stock in these on /r/news lol
[–]kaji823 978ポイント979ポイント980ポイント 12時間前* (532子コメント)
I have a big problem with this. Even if he does have damning evidence on Clinton, it looks like he's trying to maximize damage against her on her presidential campaign, rather than release the leaks for the common good. Building up to the election like this can have huge consequences for the US as a whole, regardless of what she did or did not do. Couple that with nothing on Trump, and it looks off.
*The responsible thing would be to release it as far advanced to the elections as possible so the US people can actually discuss it rather than have a knee jerk reaction. *
Edit: I can't respond to everyone, but I've gotten a lot of similar comments.
I emboldened the part where I'm clearly okay with leaking information. It's the timing that I don't like, and one sidedness that doesn't seem right. I understand that having something on Clinton does not guarantee there is something on the RNC/Trump, but it definitely seems one sided.
"He's doing not because people forget quickly! Clinton deserves this! The American people need to wake up!" I don't think the ends justify the means in this, and that the US people aren't as dumb (or you aren't as smart) as you make them out to be. The irony here is that Trump is not escaping over time, and if Clinton did something truest horrible I'm pretty confident she'd be treated the same.
"The news media is obviously controlled by Clinton!" Unless you think the evangelical church, Mormon church, Glenn Beck, RNC and many conservative news companies are also colluding with them, then Trump is probably as worthy of this attention as it gets. I'm very concerned with him promoting the idea that the election is rigged, as it will probably lead to his followers taking more drastic measures. He's a sore loser that does not consider the outcome of his actions.
"Everything about Trump is already public, so there's nothing to leak" There's still the details of the many sexual harassment cases against his company, information on Trump U, his charity, private business dealings, more tax returns, details of his rape allegation from his x wife that was retracted as a part of their divorce settlement, etc. There's substantially more to expect from Trump than Clinton.
[–]WasterDave 185ポイント186ポイント187ポイント 13時間前 (52子コメント)
Given that he's been living in their embassy since 2012, I imagine they're just plain pissed off with him.
[–]PRO_NWOdontkillmebro 203ポイント204ポイント205ポイント 11時間前 (18子コメント)
i just picture Assange every morning coming downstairs in a bath robe not shaven wearing flip flops Crocs to get his morning paper. Says hi to the security guards and cracks a joke with the janitor as he goes back to his quarters where he reads other peoples emails all day.
[–]Show-Me-Your-Moves 63ポイント64ポイント65ポイント 9時間前 (15子コメント)
Damn, now I want this to be a sitcom.
[–]PRO_NWOdontkillmebro 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 9時間前 (11子コメント)
Oh hell yeah. Toss in some studio audience laughter as he cracks a joke with the receptionist. It could be a comedy/action/suspense. Maybe make Kevin Hart his co-star
[–]Hellos117 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 9時間前 (9子コメント)
Assange & Hart... I like that.
Episode 1: Surviving the Ecuadorian Flood
Assange clogs the embassy toilet and causes a massive overflow of dirty water that floods the bathroom where Hart is also present. Hart is drowning. Assange needs to rescue him before the flood rises and drowns him too.
[–]TreezusSaves 68ポイント69ポイント70ポイント 8時間前* (5子コメント)
Episode 2: Three's A Crowd
At the annual Ecuadorian Embassy ball that The Ambassador hosts, Assange accidentally got two women to go with him at once, but they don't know about each other and one of them, unbeknownst to him, is an American spy! He enlists Hart to keep them busy as Assange switches between them during the dance so they don't find out about each other. Assange takes the spy back to his room, where she plans to steal his laptop, until Hart accidentally lets it slip to the other woman. She shows up and dumps a bowl of punch all over Assange, the spy, and the laptop (effectively destroying it). The other woman storms out, the spy storms out, Assange (in shock and disbelief) picks up the laptop and tips it to pour out a comical amount of punch. Hart says "Hey man, look at the bright side: you've got another leak." Laugh track, applause, closing credits.
[–]Bad_Stoner 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Fucking well done
[–]GobiasBlunke 2334ポイント2335ポイント2336ポイント 14時間前 (142子コメント)
Excuse me but I thought today was the day the world descended into chaos and WW3 was going to begin and Hillary was literally rappelling down the Ecuadorian embassy walls to assassinate Assange herself.
[–]bossmonkey88 658ポイント659ポイント660ポイント 13時間前 (28子コメント)
Please tell me she's doing the rappelling in a pants suit
[–]ShakeTheLutece 288ポイント289ポイント290ポイント 12時間前 (15子コメント)
Tactleneck over the top.
[–]Chrikelnel 35ポイント36ポイント37ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
But is it black or slightly darker black?
[–]systm117 124ポイント125ポイント126ポイント 12時間前 (11子コメント)
Tactical Turtleneck
[–]CorporateDroog 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
Don't mishandle those flashbangs!
MAWP
[–]CopyX 76ポイント77ポイント78ポイント 13時間前 (8子コメント)
Hillary was literally rappelling down the Ecuadorian embassy walls to assassinate Assange herself.
That was an option? I didn't even know that was on the table.
[–]Beb26 99ポイント100ポイント101ポイント 12時間前 (3子コメント)
That was actually buried in the released emails. We were all distracted by that extreme bombshell campaign ruiners such as "Podesta thought the newest Dan brown novel was just alright" and "Hillary took her personal lamp from home with her when she left the state department" that we missed the real controversy of HillaryRappellDownEcuadorianEmbassytoTakeOutAssange-Gate for all the damn red herrings!
[–]twenty_nine_plus 154ポイント155ポイント156ポイント 13時間前 (6子コメント)
Yeah, that's what I heard from the totally-not-fake CIA and FBI /pol/ agents! Man, this totally shakes the basis of my faith in humanity. I mean, if I can't trust anonymous people on the internet then I just don't know who to believe anymore...
[–]barney_rumble 26ポイント27ポイント28ポイント 13時間前 (2子コメント)
You can always trust me, pal. It's you and me against the world now.
[–]KicknGuitar 337ポイント338ポイント339ポイント 14時間前 (43子コメント)
The image this gave me in my mind was glorious. Continue writing creatively.
[–]fulminedio 68ポイント69ポイント70ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
In the Darkness of the Ecuadorian guest room, Assange sits quietly in the blue glow of his laptop. He hears a sound of shuffling feet behind him. He quickly turns around. Unable to see in the piercing darkness in front of him, he meekly asks "who's there?"
After a moment in time that felt like eternity, he was met by a familiar presence. The ensuing coughing spell that lasted 30 seconds followed by a feminine voice "it's only pneumonia", only confirmed what Assange already knew. The room started to grow darker with the thump in his chest. The smell of gunpowder and his flesh prumigrating his nostrils. Assange could only think to himself as he slumped to the floor. "I could have saved a bunch of money if I had switched to GEICO".
[–]wextippler 184ポイント185ポイント186ポイント 15時間前 (12子コメント)
I wonder if the release of a file called "Ecuador" pissed them off.
I can't imagine a country's embassy willfully allowing a guest to release something sensitive about them. That'd be like Russia letting Snowden drop a Putin bombshell.
EDIT: Also, did they "cut" him off, or just change the WiFi password on him?
[–]Saw_Boss 45ポイント46ポイント47ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
Ecuador.mp3 right?
I bet they fucking hate that song.
[–]itsnickk 4686ポイント4687ポイント4688ポイント 15時間前*x3 (1612子コメント)
I like this quick turnaround time. It gives us all a chance to compare what actually happened to what the armchair geopolitical experts here on reddit feel happened, even if it is totally incorrect:
"An important thing to keep in mind is that Assange is in the Ecuadorian embassy. We can assume that the state actor is not Ecuador." [+41]
and in /r/worldnews:
"We need as many of our British neet centipedes to get to the embassy and occupy the general vicinity, the people the better. Livestream, livestream, livestream. They can't kill him while millions of people are watching." [+418]
and /r/wikileaks:
"If he dies, he goes out a Martyr. Assange has made me proud to be Australian and I will never forget his efforts to expose the elite Hillary and her friends. FUCK the establishment, and I REALLY hope Julian lives." [+982]
people in /r/the_Donald literally ready for war and for them to be next:
"Don't be surprised if they shut down this sub. Get your backup ready folks." [+163]
and
"Can we just asses the situation here: The United States is attacking an Australian citizen that's located in the sovereign Ecuadorian embassy... in London. This must require the president. Absolutely must. Are we talking acts of war here?" [+73]
edit: thank you for the gold. Honestly putting this comment together was enjoyment enough for me.
[–]gashal 1265ポイント1266ポイント1267ポイント 15時間前 (225子コメント)
Especially that last comment... what the hell was he smoking.
[–]KimchiMaker 2426ポイント2427ポイント2428ポイント 13時間前 (27子コメント)
Actually, as Assange is the ONLY Australian living inside the Ecuadorian embassy it would not just be an act of war, but GENOCIDE!!
[–]Belkor 367ポイント368ポイント369ポイント 13時間前 (4子コメント)
Ok, this made me laugh.
[–]throwawayison 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
I also laughed, and a second later reminisced on that laugh and chuckled sensibly again.
[–]RainbowGoddamnDash 151ポイント152ポイント153ポイント 13時間前 (8子コメント)
Recognize the Australian genocide Obama!
[–]Cakiery 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 11時間前 (3子コメント)
/r/emuwarflashbacks
[–]raven187 49ポイント50ポイント51ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
Make Australia Genocide Again
[–]ggtsu_00 37ポイント38ポイント39ポイント 12時間前* (0子コメント)
Tomorrow on the top of /r/The_Donald:
"Hillary and her campaign commits Australian GENOCIDE in Ecuador."
[–]waldron76 489ポイント490ポイント491ポイント 14時間前 (17子コメント)
pure r/PanicHistory
[–]dubshent 132ポイント133ポイント134ポイント 13時間前 (11子コメント)
Thank you for introducing me to this treasure trove.
[–]SquishSquash81 104ポイント105ポイント106ポイント 13時間前 (7子コメント)
I hope it chronicles the insane ebola panic Reddit went through. Trying to talk sense into people was impossible.
[–]Prasiatko 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
It's somewhere on the side bar. I wish there was away to view post say only posted this month but last year. Would be fun to look back.
[–]NSA_Chatbot 31ポイント32ポイント33ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
Yeah. "Are you fucking the corpse of someone that is bleeding out of their mucous membranes?"
If not, then you don't have Ebola.
[–]Wraith_GraveSpell 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Underrated sub. There's so much more fear mongering bullshit that I see on Reddit every day that needs to be archived there to remind people what irrational knee-jerk behavior looks like.
[–]itsnickk 303ポイント304ポイント305ポイント 15時間前 (137子コメント)
That was just a small sample of the totally ungrounded theories these normal people (with no advanced knowledge of the situation) thought up and spewed as plausible truth.
[–]Khiva 316ポイント317ポイント318ポイント 14時間前 (25子コメント)
Don't forget the hundreds of people who saw these comments and said "Yeah ... upvote."
[–]OPINION_IS_UNPOPULAR 147ポイント148ポイント149ポイント 13時間前 (18子コメント)
Don't forget that heavily downvoted dissenting comments.
It doesn't matter if you're right, only if you follow the hive mind.
[–]ZapPowerz 51ポイント52ポイント53ポイント 13時間前 (10子コメント)
the hivemind tends to change depending on the subreddit.
[–]marriage_iguana 291ポイント292ポイント293ポイント 13時間前 (19子コメント)
They're smoking The Donald's pole. They're seriously fucked in the head over there. The other day, the top post on that sub was a picture of Teddy Roosevelt saying "if you want to anger a conservative, tell him a lie. If you want to anger a liberal, tell him the truth". The only thing is, that quote is false, never happened. Someone pointed that out and OP said that even though the quote was bullshit it was still a "spot on" analysis of today's political situation. The irony was lost on them.
[–]buymetwodrinks 601ポイント602ポイント603ポイント 14時間前 (65子コメント)
Get your backup ready folks
Someone at NSA chuckled at this.
[–]Vandredd 214ポイント215ポイント216ポイント 14時間前 (55子コメント)
No they didn't, they probably aren't monitoring that circle jerk
[–]yes_thats_right 180ポイント181ポイント182ポイント 13時間前 (30子コメント)
Considering the number of people calling for civil war or assasinating Hillary if (lol) Trump loses, I'm sure that there are at least some people monitoring it.
[–]IICVX 95ポイント96ポイント97ポイント 12時間前 (8子コメント)
I don't think you really need an actual person or even a real program, I'm sure a couple of regular expressions can handle the whole subreddit.
[–]20000Fish 35ポイント36ポイント37ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
DROP TABLE users;
[–]Bardfinn 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 12時間前 (2子コメント)
A single line of shell code piping the output to /dev/null suffices
/dev/null
[–]aleister 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
Storing it in /dev/null would be an economical choice consistent with the value.
[–]LordJabu-Jabu 234ポイント235ポイント236ポイント 13時間前 (15子コメント)
I love that "Are we talking acts of war here?" Australia, England, Ecuador, y'all better be ready because America is coming
[–]itsnickk 89ポイント90ポイント91ポイント 13時間前 (0子コメント)
You know, the new Axis of Evil.
[–]wearywarrior 810ポイント811ポイント812ポイント 14時間前 (55子コメント)
This has been yet another episode of " I am a teenager and know everything." Tune in next week for our next episode "Fuck you, dad! You can't tell me what to do!"
[–]Lucretian 65ポイント66ポイント67ポイント 12時間前 (5子コメント)
Series finale on November 8!
[–]spyson 55ポイント56ポイント57ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
I think you mean Nov 28th.
[–]Cultjam 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Try being an adult and having the whole thing come full circle with your senior citizens parents. "Mom, please stop. Obama was born in Hawaii."
[–]shaunc 2420ポイント2421ポイント2422ポイント 15時間前 (488子コメント)
The paranoia and persecution complexes are palpable.
[–]sp0ck06 995ポイント996ポイント997ポイント 14時間前 (354子コメント)
its no surprise that in the last week, as Trump began to really get into the "election is rigged, conspiracy to prevent me from taking office, evil global banking conspiracy" type shit that we see that reflected in his disciples on reddit.
[–]Radank 538ポイント539ポイント540ポイント 14時間前 (209子コメント)
It was on the subreddit before Trump started talking about it.
[–]9922451 96ポイント97ポイント98ポイント 13時間前 (7子コメント)
He's been saying it since the primaries. If he doesn't win it's obviously not his fault but the system that's clearly rigged against him. He's never responsible for his behavior or words. It's all just so unfair!
[–]TheLuckyLion 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
He's never responsible when he's losing, but when he's winning it's all about how great and huge and big league he is.
[–]NokiaSnakeWorldChamp 510ポイント511ポイント512ポイント 14時間前 (195子コメント)
I tell you what, that subreddit is completely fascinating. It's probably 80% legit trump supporters and 20% trolls. The trolls are from deep within 4chan. They come just to stir the pot and pour gasoline on the conspiracy fire.
[–]joe579003 785ポイント786ポイント787ポイント 13時間前 (91子コメント)
"Deep within 4chan." I mean /pol/ is a single click away like all the other boards.
[–]Tullius_ 534ポイント535ポイント536ポイント 12時間前 (82子コメント)
People really like to make 4chan out to be as seedy as possible
[–]Panaka 283ポイント284ポイント285ポイント 12時間前* (57子コメント)
With how people talk about it, you'd think you'd need TOR or a secret password to get into it. I genuinely wonder how many people here who talk about 4chan have ever actually been there.
edit: I should also mention how everyone thinks 4chan is just /b/ or /pol/, there are sfw boards believe it or not and they aren't all as gay as /fit/.
[–]Metal_Agent 54ポイント55ポイント56ポイント 12時間前 (8子コメント)
Well, to be fair, 4chan's layout is even more archaic than Reddit's.
[–]HolySimon 38ポイント39ポイント40ポイント 12時間前 (6子コメント)
4chan is the Internet equivalent of the Mos Eisley cantina
[–]lakeradio 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
Honestly it's more like that underwater city that Jar Jar Binks is from.
[–]put_flex 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 12時間前 (3子コメント)
Nah mate these are really terrible disfigured people that have been fully corrupted by the 4chan
[–]Justice-its-self 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
I got hard banned by the mods for saying maybe Trump Won't win. They pretty much called for my lynching. The mods said I was banned for not liking trump.
[–]Lemonies 35ポイント36ポイント37ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
It's kind of a microcosm of the problem 4chan itself now has.
The_Donald started off 90% trolls, 10% idiots but now it's grown and the percentages have flipped.
In the same way, 4chan spent years making funnies pretending to be racists and idiots... and now it's attracted a userbase entirely of actual racists and idiots.
Still, can't wait for the morning after Trump gets completely routed. The entire site will be flagellating itself about "how it almost got Trump elected" in a sad and upscaled version of this comic strip
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[–]NUMBERS2357 138ポイント139ポイント140ポイント 15時間前 (9子コメント)
Lots of experts on reddit.
[–]TheAeolian 111ポイント112ポイント113ポイント 14時間前 (7子コメント)
/r/TopMindsOfReddit
[–]Lavalampexpress 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Top. Men.
[–]Odell_Strangehams 189ポイント190ポイント191ポイント 13時間前 (23子コメント)
I swear that redditors turn into an army of Alex jones clones sometimes with all the crazy conspiracy shit. One thing happens and boom. Yup. Hillary has stage 4 lung cancer or trump and Putin are plotting world domination. It's like nuances and actually waiting for facts just go away after something happens.
Not to say all by any means. Just some. Who tend to talk really loud. Before the facts. And then keep talking.
[–]waiv 140ポイント141ポイント142ポイント 14時間前 (103子コメント)
It seems to be related to the new lawsuit for breach of contract from ToddandClare.com:
Our understanding is that the RBPF Investigation (RBPF Reference: Sgt Ferguson 1705 RBPF Thompson Boulevard) is being handled by a specialist child protection unit of the Bahamas police authorities and relates to the child exploitation of an 8-year-old juvenile in Nassau, Bahamas using electronic/internet methods; prohibited use of an electronic communication system to procure a minor; child pornography production; and the luring of a minor online for sex, by Mr Julian Assange, who we understand has been identified from chatlogs.
That actually leaked before the news of the shut down, but it got drowned in the conspiracy theories.
[–]buttseeker 113ポイント114ポイント115ポイント 12時間前 (12子コメント)
If Julian Assange was blind enough to try to seduce an 8 year old in a chatroom while in his position, that would be the punchline of 2016.
[–]FoxFyer 40ポイント41ポイント42ポイント 10時間前 (8子コメント)
Reading the report, it sounds like he had been webcamming with an (adult) female he'd met through that dating website, and somehow starting talking with that woman's little sister and asking her to do sexual things. The letter from the website to the UN says that apparently Assange is easily identifiable in the logs.
[–]going_for_a_wank 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Is this the October surprise he was hyping?
[–]JurijFedorov 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
So embarrassing. We are totally loosing all the goodwill we got when we caught the Boston Bomber.
[–]hasselburglar 254ポイント255ポイント256ポイント 15時間前 (8子コメント)
Somebody must have needed to use the land line
[–]Middleman79 387ポイント388ポイント389ポイント 14時間前 (26子コメント)
According to the tweet it was cut off after the goldman Sachs speeches were released, that was on Saturday. He was cut off today. It's Monday.
[–]evilfetus01 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 13時間前 (1子コメント)
We all know the work week for everyone, even Assange, begins on Mondays.
[–]bogusnot 43ポイント44ポイント45ポイント 13時間前 (1子コメント)
They cut us off right away! When they returned to work at 9:05am EDT after the weekend. They don't pay enough for major spyshit on Saturday/Sunday.
[–]HosbnBolt 69ポイント70ポイント71ポイント 12時間前* (42子コメント)
I missed this today.. why is the Ecuadorian embassy cutting off Julian Assange's internet? What's the motivation? All i see in this thread are unsubstantiated theories and others chiding those who espouse them. Anyone actually know what's going on?
[–]Tindi 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 9時間前 (1子コメント)
Maybe they have an internet plan with a data cap. My plan is 110 Gbs a month. I usually am right on. If I had Assange here, I'm sure I'd be over all the time with all the zip files and shit he's sending everywhere and I pay $10 per extra gig.
[–]HighOnGoofballs 204ポイント205ポイント206ポイント 15時間前 (2子コメント)
Don't piss off your keepers if they can change the wifi password
[–]chilehead 39ポイント40ポイント41ポイント 13時間前 (2子コメント)
They're behaving as if Wikileaks is a one-person operation.
[–]blackbutters 40ポイント41ポイント42ポイント 13時間前 (18子コメント)
Cant he just use 4g?
[–]Tired8281 46ポイント47ポイント48ポイント 13時間前 (21子コメント)
I don't get this...do they not have 4G in the UK? Is the Ecuadorian embassy some kind of 4G dead zone?
[–]jl2352 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Reception is actually pretty bad in a lot of indoor parts of London. A lot of brand new offices in zone 1 have terrible reception because they often haven't got mobile phone repeaters installed when they open.
If Ecuador don't have repeaters installed then it may well be that they don't have a good phone signal.
[–]beanbagquestions 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 11時間前 (40子コメント)
Is there an /r/OutOfTheLoop explanation for this whole story?
[–]Glennishill 825ポイント826ポイント827ポイント 14時間前 (122子コメント)
Oh, so that story I saw plastered on every fucking sub this morning about how HRC is out to get Julian Assange was just total bullshit?
What a surprise.
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[–]kudeism 325ポイント326ポイント327ポイント 13時間前 (28子コメント)
This post was only 1.5 hours old when you posted that.
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