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Tricked into being in a porno... (self.legaladvice)

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I have a friend who I'm trying to help come forward and get help. She is a former sex worker(escort/bodyrubs) who responded to an ad earlier this year for an off-camera job in the sex industry. She showed up at the 'interview', paid them a fee, and performed several sex acts which she believed were part of the interview process. Some time later, a random person informed her that her video was being distributed on a paid content porn website.

She contacted the producer via text message and requested the videos be taken down. The producer refused. She never signed a consent form or release forms and did not authorize the distribution of the video.

I reached out the Cyber Civil Rights Legal Project and they recommended we contact police immediately and file a report. She is concerned that, being a former sex worker, she may get in trouble for her past.

We are in San Diego. I would like help finding an attorney who could advise us further. I don't have any experience with attorneys, so I'm not sure what to look for. I would like to explore both criminal and civil approaches for removing the video, punishing the producer for exploiting a young woman, and compensating my friend for the damage done to her.

Thanks!

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[–]BobmcgeeQuality Contributor[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (4子コメント)

Anyone who asks for the video, for information about what site it is on, or anything along those lines will be permanently banned.

Yes, that includes the line from Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

[–]rather_be_a_hobbit 14ポイント15ポイント  (51子コメント)

responded to an ad earlier this year for an off-camera job in the sex industry. She showed up at the 'interview', paid them a fee, and performed several sex acts which she believed were part of the interview process

what was this job if it wasn't for porn?

[–]MildredNatwick 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

off-camera job

craft services? lighting? makeup?

I personally am skeptical that this story happened as described.

[–]shadowofashadow 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

And why did she pay them a fee? That's not usually how jobs work.

[–]pm-me-neckbeards 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Fluffer.

[–]rather_be_a_hobbit 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's exactly what I am thinking it was, I just wanted OP to confirm - and paying them for this? wtf.

[–]pm-me-neckbeards 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, if they are willing to film and sell the interview without her consent, they are probably also willing to steal a fee from her too. Like how CutCo makes you buy your display knives. Or something?

[–]867294749031[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (39子コメント)

A backpage ad for a 'fluffer' position. Basically off-camera handjobs.

[–]grasshoppa1Quality Contributor 5ポイント6ポイント  (24子コメント)

There's another reason I don't believe she's telling you the truth. Fluffers aren't real. They aren't actually used in porn.

[–]867294749031[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (23子コメント)

Ok... reddit logic.. look, the position may not exist, but someone can still use the widespread belief that the position exists to lure young girls into attempting to obtain the position.

[–]grasshoppa1Quality Contributor 5ポイント6ポイント  (22子コメント)

Yes, because real girls are going to reply to that job offer, right? Uh, no.

It's much more likely that the role of fluffer was a role in the film being produced and your "friend" (read: sugar baby) is either a complete fucking idiot or is lying to you.

Also, I'd bet $100 she signed a release and proper 2257 forms and either doesn't remember or is lying to you about that too.

[–]rather_be_a_hobbit 4ポイント5ポイント  (19子コメント)

your "friend" (read: sugar baby) is either a complete fucking idiot or is lying to you.

You just made my day.

[–]867294749031[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (18子コメント)

She is my 'sugar baby' in the sense that I have replaced her lost income from sex work while she gets established with a normal job and work history. If I wanted to hide that fact, I would have created a throw away account.

Do you guys hate young women or what? I'm trying to help a poor girl and stick it to a sleazebag.

[–]grasshoppa1Quality Contributor 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

She is my 'sugar baby' in the sense that I have replaced her lost income from sex work while she gets established with a normal job and work history.

Sure. That's why she was trying to interview for another sex job right?

I'm sure you're doing this out of the kindness of your heart, right? She's not fucking you in exchange for your help or anything!

[–]867294749031[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (16子コメント)

This all happened nearly a year ago. I didn't know her at the time.

I hope you don't have daughters.

[–]grasshoppa1Quality Contributor 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

I hope I don't either, because some creepy weirdo like you who likes the smell of "sweaty buttholes" (you know we can read your post history, right?) would probably try to pay them for sex.

[–]867294749031[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://losangeles.backpage.com/adult/?keyword=fluffer

There it is. Job ads for the fluffer position.

I'm starting to gain an understanding of what women who report sex crimes have to deal with. I don't have any energy to argue with you. I hope this never happens to a woman you care about. You're a sad individual. I hope you gain pleasure from winning internet arguments, because otherwise you must lead a very empty existence.

[–]grasshoppa1Quality Contributor 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guarantee you that is an "on camera" position. Go ahead, reply and see.

[–]rather_be_a_hobbit -1ポイント0ポイント  (13子コメント)

There it is. That's not a real "job" btw, its something girls typically do in exchange for drugs.

[–]grasshoppa1Quality Contributor 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

its something girls typically do in exchange for drugs.

Huh?

[–]rather_be_a_hobbit -2ポイント-1ポイント  (8子コメント)

? Are you unfamiliar with this? Basically a fluffer is a "paid" helper to male porn stars to keep them erect and they are usually paid in drugs, not cash. Pretty sad situation really and thankfully with the rise of Viagra it isn't as common as it used to be.

[–]ExpiresAfterUseQuality Contributor 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh ye of little faith, do not doubt him. You are speaking to /u/grasshoppa1, First of his Name, King of Porn and the Yinz, breaker of /u/demyst's anus, Creepy-Uncle of /r/legaladvice.

[–]BiondinaQuality Contributor 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never doubt /u/grasshoppa1 because I am in awe of his very special skills.

[–]demystDr. Demyst, Esq. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No.

[–]rather_be_a_hobbit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

whoa he broke an anus?

[–]grasshoppa1Quality Contributor 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Basically a fluffer is a "paid" helper to male porn stars to keep them erect and they are usually paid in drugs, not cash.

You have no idea what you're talking about. None at all.

For one thing, fluffers don't actually exist in porn production. There are several "reality" style porn movies that have fluffers in the film itself, but behind the scenes fluffers are an urban legend. Not real at all.

[–]rather_be_a_hobbit -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

In LA maybe not, sure, but I know for a fact people have acted as a "fluffer" in every sense of the "myth". I know call them clients.

[–]grasshoppa1Quality Contributor 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you're lying about as hard as OP's sugarbaby.

[–]rather_be_a_hobbit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can think that, but I don't really care either way. It shouldn't be that much of a stretch to imagine some sleazeball guy was some money trying to find some addicts and get them to do some dirty deeds for drugs will try to fulfill his dream of making it important as a director. You'd be amazed at what people do in the Midwest and think they can get away with

Voice to text sucks

[–]867294749031[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://losangeles.backpage.com/adult/?keyword=fluffer

It may not be a real job, but there are real ads for that job.

[–]rather_be_a_hobbit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure it is a real ad, just like backpage is a real business. Doesn't make it anymore legal or legit. She isn't filing out a W-2 and claiming it on her taxes. Also didn't the president or CEO of backpage just get busted on serious charges for money laundering or paid ads?

[–]867294749031[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

For the record, I've known her for 5 months now and she doesn't even drink. He helped me kick drugs and stay clean for over 3 months now though.

The guy who recruited her runs a porn website. His site is full of amateur girls doing one-time videos which are likely made using the same scam of luring girls with the promise of a high paying job.

[–]grasshoppa1Quality Contributor 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Your friend needs to be the one to pursue this, not you.

Also, I find it very difficult to believe a producer actually filmed and distributed a porn video without her signing anything. Are you sure that is the case and you're not being lied to?

If it is true, she can talk to an attorney about her possible options. She can also report the producer to the FBI for violating '2257' regulations.

[–]867294749031[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

One more question: do you know how to find a lawyer who might specialize in this sort of thing? Do I just pick a name from a hat? Call the county bar association for a referral? I'm lost at this point.

I heard K&L Gates does pro bono work for revenge porn victims, so I've considered starting with them. Does that sound reasonable?

[–]867294749031[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely. Unfortunately she is young and insecure. She doesn't know who to turn to for help. I'm trying to connect her with the people who can help her.

I am not sure, but I believe her when she says that all they checked was her driver's license.

Thanks for the tips!

[–]PM-Me-BeerQuality Contributor 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

What was the alleged job? What did she sign at the interview, if anything? Did she provide any identifying documents like a driver's license to the employer?

[–]867294749031[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only a driver's license. The producer did ask her not to use her real last name when they were filming.

[–]Astramancer_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they don't have a model release, she can sue them. It's obviously for commercial use, so they should have it, given that she's personally identifiable.

There may be criminal codes involved, it may be covered under the revenge porn statues as it's sexually explicit materials that she did not authorize for distribution, though I believe in CA it's only a misdemeanor.

[–]werewolfchow 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You sort of skipped over how the video was created. Are you saying there were hidden cameras, or did she consent to the filming on the understanding that the film would only be used for "interview purposes" or some such?

[–]867294749031[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

She didn't see the cameras when she entered the unit(apartment, condo.. she's not sure). The producer held a camera while she performed the 'interview'.

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[–]HammiesCantGetMeDown -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sound's like a Back Room Casting Couch video lmao