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[Half-time Discussion] United v Liverpool (self.reddevils)

BaelixNemanja, whooahhoohhohhhoh が 投稿

Feel as though we're playing extremely well, albeit negative football.

Haven't given them but maybe one chance, and we're frustrating them at every point in the middle of the pitch.

Only real chances at this point:

  • Zlatan holding up on the top of the box, back to Pogba.

  • Rashford's dipping cross through the 6yd box.

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[–]united1020Schneiderlin 69ポイント70ポイント  (20子コメント)

That Ashley Young yellow was bound to happen, he's not the captain and ran up to the ref after every foul.

[–]PaintedProgressIbrahimovic 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

He is such a moron. What was he doing?

[–]SNMFAM 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

It was after every single decision the ref made, I have a feeling that he was instructed to do that.

[–]nomoretearzRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

what would an instruction like that achieve?

[–]sylheti27Schneiderlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he was mad because the advantage should have been played there. We had a 1-2 opportunity with Young and RashGod.

[–]FatJohnson6Van Persie 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

I think Young and Rashford need to switch sides or Ashley needs to come off. Rashford is totally lost on the right and Young hasn't been that spectacular.

[–]northernseoulSmalling 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Young has been pretty solid defensively.

[–]FatJohnson6Van Persie 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

He hasn't really offered much going forward, and Rashford doesn't seem to be able to operate on the right, and he's a much more potent scoring threat

[–]burlycabinShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not really sure what you're talking about. Rashford has impressed me on the right.

[–]wakey87433Mata 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Young hasn't been brilliant. He has completely nullified Clyne

[–]summerincassiopeia 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Young has been our most important player.

[–]united1020Schneiderlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd be open to that, but Young seems to be doing a good job at helping Mane stay quiet.

[–]FatJohnson6Van Persie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, but there's no sense in wasting Rashford on the right

[–]VazinhoRashford 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disagree. Young has been solid in covering Blind while steering balls towards Pogba. Rashford just needs to shake the nerves and is normally very comfy on the right.

[–]Lost_And_NotFoundJones 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Young's playing on that side specifically to help Blind with Mane

[–]cookie1254Rafael 81ポイント82ポイント  (5子コメント)

Loving Ander so far

[–]PoppinKREAMRashgod 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's providing a great balance in the midfield with Pogba and Fellaini. It's fantastic to see some flare!

[–]ohahcantona 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

he's been fantastic alongside fellaini

Ander in particular has done very well to break up play and find the next pass

[–]frankowen18 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hes been an absolute diamond. I fucking love that man. He's been sticking it on their midfield from minute one, if every player had Anders mentality we'd be a very different side.

[–]sylheti27Schneiderlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just hoping he can keep this intensity up for the second half as well. He's been brilliant

[–]FURyannnnScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's been so good this season. Love his passion and his ability. Hope he nets the winner.

[–]HomelessSmurfMartial 49ポイント50ポイント  (4子コメント)

If that Bailly foul was a yellow then every foul must be a yellow

[–]TudoorsScholes 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes. That being said, Taylor made it very clear that the next foul, however trivial would be a yellow. Bailly's was also just purely cynical as well.

[–]Chicken_and_chips 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That seems odd to me. Any foul from now on is a yellow. Bailly is a hard bastard and not shy of going in so hitting him with a yellow for that just seems unfair.

[–]TudoorsScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's proper management of a game. You could see it getting out of hand, and Taylor absolutely had to make an example of the next person.

[–]jmoney0999Carrick -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was his first foul of the match as well right ? Ridiculous

[–]ScientificShrimpRvN 44ポイント45ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ref feeling the pressure of the Liverpool fans in those last ten minutes.

[–]vincent1989Herrera 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just need a bit more from pogba and rashford. Other than that, spot in tactics, pretty good

[–]ohahcantona 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

ya mourinho's definitely got the side set up well, hopefully we'll get more of the same.

hate that we didnt capitalize on some good play

[–]MalforianJose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

feel Rashford as central striker would work better, ibra not fast enough to cause issues with their slow defense

[–]efribble 51ポイント52ポイント  (9子コメント)

fucking bullshit yellow card on Bailly. Then Henderson doesn't get one on Herrera and Young gets one for asking a question.. fuck off

[–]wakey87433Mata 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Baillys tackle was no where near as bad as Loverns on Zlatan earlier. And that was from behind so if that's what git Bailly booked then the inconsistency is ridiculous

[–]astarkey12Smalling 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Bailly's yellow definitely felt like an accumulation yellow for the whole team. That foul on its own wasn't worth the card.

[–]TelcarSolskjær 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It doesn't work like that

[–]Lost_And_NotFoundJones 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty sure it does? That's entirely why the ref called in both captains to give a final warning.

Different sport I know but I'm an actual qualified ref in Rugby and yellows are given for accumulation.

[–]MrMahonyHerrera 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was about the say the ref had a good half then nope he fucks it...

[–]Alante 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed on the first two points, but Young got one because he's sprinting up to the ref every time. Moron.

[–]ryan4pieGiggsy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously. Think there are some pretty questionable decisions, why can't you ask the ref any questions? And bailly getting a yellow for absolutely nothing?!?

[–]Savage9645Rashford 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was pretty obvious that the ref told both captains that the next hard foul gets a booking regardless. Henderson's foul was much softer than Bailly's. No problem with the bookings.

[–]ChegismDe Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't like the referee changing rules half way through. There should not be a case of "Bailly, I'm going to give you a yellow for a non-yellow foul because I let Ander off several times earlier." He failed to give worse challenges than Baillys a yellow, and that's poor refereeing.

[–]Miniatom 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rooney should have a word with Young about how to approach the ref

[–]HomelessSmurfMartial 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Don't"

[–]jmoney0999Carrick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He didn't yell fuck off loud enough lol

[–]CraftySpastic 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Herrera our best player so far.

[–]g1344304Di Maria 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well Ibra is certainly chomping at the bit.

[–]summerincassiopeia 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He keeps looking at his hand. Avoidance tactics/ showing how non-plussed he is for sure.

[–]Pizza_Is_Everything 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll happily take that first half over the first against City. Having said that, in the second half we need to put more pressure on their goal and make our chances count.

[–]DatGuyRichValencia 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not the first half I expected but I will take it.

Up until the 35th minute, Liverpool looked bewildered. They expected us to play into their hands and it just hasn't worked.

Would like to see Ibrahimovic move a bit more up top.

[–]dleazzzRooney 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

We need setpieces, we can score from them. I understand now why Mourinho chose this team against liverpool, he is a tactical genius.

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let's not quite call that yet.

[–]Creamy_Goodne55 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rashford is not a RW, hes completely wasted out there.

[–]nomaswheat11Young 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah he seems a bit lost honestly. Had a few good runs.

[–]Allard1994Good one Jose, good one. 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Should've kept up that style of play for 45 min and we would've been up 1-0.

[–]digitagCarrick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was such a Mourinho performance. Keep it up I think we could take all the points.

[–]DizzyDaMansoon-to-be-messi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is this shit ref. Also our trio midfield is on point today!

[–]musefanplMata 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's time for Juanfield

[–]account_locked_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Herrera the best player so far. Need Pogba to be a lot more involved if we are going to win.

We really can't stay penned in like we did for the last 20 minutes. Liking how organized the team looks.

[–]ArazezScholes 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really like the trouble that Herrera is giving their midfield, I think we're lacking a bit of fire on the wings though Ibra looking isolated

[–]ohcaptain- 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Refs a cunt. Henderson a bollock. Blind need to be alert all the time

[–]BaelixNemanja, whooahhoohhohhhoh[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tbh, I'm hoping for Shaw to come on in the 2nd half as I don't know how much longer Blind can deal with the pace on the wings.

Young is doing well tracking back, but it's still scary.

[–]AsbergerrSolskjær 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not the most beautiful football but I have to say Mourihno is impressing me tonight. Defense is solid, our midfielders is actually keeping liverpools in check and if Zlatan just keep doing what he is doing something is bound to happen in front of goal

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

We're doing what Jose wants. We're breaking up their play and they don't look that dangerous. Switch off though and they score.

We haven't looked like scoring either though. No service to Zlatan and wingers aren't doing that much.

We'd need a really lucky goal on the break to nick this.

[–]BaelixNemanja, whooahhoohhohhhoh[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Martial would be the one to break this deadlock - too bad he picked up that injury :/

[–]kekslovakia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Been pretty decent, need that cutting edge in the final third though.

[–]curlyswineScholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck this ref

[–]dolphin9999Dat Guy Pogz 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rashford hasn't been that good so far...

Pogbas decision making and general play has been poor too

[–]hardgourRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems like Pogba thinks too much. He just needs to react. Tries to hard

[–]strawzySchweinsteiger's godly calves 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Much better half than I was expecting but I can't help feeling we needed to score in the half an hour they had their guard down.

[–]manchesterunitedgoal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Expected Liverpool to come out guns blazing.

[–]MrD3athGiggsy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

First 30 minutes were absolutely brilliant!

[–]YellowBrickNodeMata 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Has Zlatan been booked?

[–]frankowen18 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kicking 7 shades of shit out of them, I love it. Totally taken the wind out of their sails. Klopp will change it second half and we'll get opportunities. Herrera has been a god.

[–]DjembaDjembaIbrahimovic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My boy Tony V with those skill moves!

[–]kmetuloManchester United 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ander is excelent this match for me

[–]jazavchar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't worry people, we are taking turns dominating the game, that's expected from a derby game such as this

[–]rahulchandar1992Herrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rashford runs were brilliant as usual!

[–]Miniatom 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you have to pick a team then we have been most threatening first 45 but nothing special, dreadful match, both teams defending well, attaking without creativity

[–]frankowen18 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, Pogba has been absolute shite. Can't remember a good touch, he needs to up his level. Simple as that, has the talent, needs to focus fast.

[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doing a great job defensively, just look lost going forward honestly. Trying to play too many through balls to Ibra at times.

Ander and Fellaini have been splendid in the midfield. Pogba, not so much.

Rashford is completely wasted on the wing. Feels like I say this every week, he's a player with incredible awareness and off the ball movement, he needs to get into the box, not serve as a crossing winger for Ibra.

[–]martialreignBlind 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty happy with that first half. We have looked fairly solid and have not given them much. Need a goal to settle the nerves though.

[–]summerincassiopeia 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba needs to pull his finger out.

[–]Shadowbanned24601Formerly /u/colmshan1990 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Two teams playing poorly.

Far too many errors to count, only a few of which were forced.

So far, a distinct lack of quality.

Playing more into United's hands than Liverpool's so far.

[–]fakewars 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ibra can't run three steps without fouling anyone. He was so frustrating to watch.

[–]Mitchel_C95Blind 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

We shoulda fucking scored. We better not rue that.

[–]iamadudesShaw 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh. Didn't really create anything worthwhile

[–]Fereh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stupid judge

[–]AinsleyKnows 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ander has been immense for us. Love the lad! Rashford does look a bit shaky down that right at times

[–]scholeszzMkhitaryan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We don't seem to have a plan to score. Hoping that the second half sees us change something, even though we've defended well so far.

[–]WHiTeCHIICKI'd rather walk alone. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We look solid at the back but Pogba/Ibra/Rashford have done nothing.

[–]PigeonNipples 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba has been pretty shit

[–]patcheee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ref making the game about him. He started well then he just got so petulant

[–]govindgfilosofeeeeee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

  • Herrera has been amazing as the guy picking up loose balls and starting whatever attacks we've had.
  • Pogba and Zlatan up top, Pulis would be proud of this
  • Really not letting Pool press us as much as they'd like.

What we need now is for Zlatan to get a nice injury time winner to wrap it up. Please lads.

[–]PmMeUrGrammerMistakehates /u/mufccirclejerk he is a cunt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Herrera and Fellaini are playing too good. Defensively we have outplayed them, just need to finish it in the final third.

[–]JuicyPorkDumplingsRooneyIsLoveRooneyIsLife 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dont know how i feel about Pogba playing CAM, ideally i love the idea of him going ham on top but would rather see him create more passes in the middle. Our attack looks rushed right now and we need the tempo. Would've loved to see Mata for this game he always shows up very well prepared for liverpool matches.

[–]purplegreendaveSAF 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I spent 38 minutes of this game walking to 5 different bars in the pissing rain, eventually back home to watch bloodzeed check his Twitter page.

[–]C-doc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is what happens when you play a defensive team with the likes of Fellaini who can't play football. When it turns out you are on top you cant do nothing but pass sideways for 45 minutes

[–]thesmallprint13Shaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

this is the mourinho big game set up i was expecting, so not too surprised with the way its gone so far. fellaini and herrera breaking up play in a very solid manner, not giving liverpool a sniff of anything

set up for a point, will happily take that at anfield

[–]sanchay_wadhwaDaley Blind 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba's first touch is really letting him down. If Rooney played like Zlatan's playing, people would be screaming for his head by now.

[–]Chicken_and_chips 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Klopp sprinting into the dressing room at the end of the half suggests he's going to change approach a lot in the 2nd half.

[–]Taibi01 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba's been crap and uninterested and we are playing on the counter with a 35 yr old upfront while our pacey striker is on the wing. Ref has been shite and inconsistent. Herrera has been amazing though.

[–]MuppetxMemphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

People will say the game is going according to plan but fuck me if it isn't a negative plan.

[–]digitagCarrick 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Playing away to the best attacking side on current form. Call it negative if you like but we've completely nullified their attacking threat in that first half. I think we should be chuffed with that half.

[–]TudoorsScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think so. Liverpool have had a couple of half chances, pretty much the same as us

[–]M4NUN1T3DMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Its jose

[–]boy_wonder199Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How? We have been in the front seat for most of the game. It was only in the last 15 minutes that we have lost the plot a bit. Hopefully it changes after half time.

[–]elvisgreen 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pogba isn't a no 10.

[–]snowkarl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He isn't an attacking midfielder and he's not a central midfielder, what is he, exactly??

[–]Savage9645Rashford 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba and Zlatan are so isolated up top and have no support. They have no one to pass to but each other.

[–]Takley -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ibras been awful, Pogba yet again anonymous, Rashford poor.

Lucky we defend well because we aren't impressing in their half.

[–]Pavrik_YzerstromRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't see what you're seeing really. No Pogba hasn't been amazing, but absent is a bit harsh, Zlatan has been there, but Liverpool has defended well, as have we, simple as that really.

[–]iAmRealCarlosDangerEd Woodward 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lets be honest, no team has impressed. It is a deadlocked game. Pogba and others can do better but this is a difficult match and no team has had any time on the ball.

[–]GolDeScholes -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tactics.

[–]TheBigLemmy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Liverpool look dreadful. Some of our fans were genuinely worried before the match.

[–]TudoorsScholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Theyve created about as many good chances as we have. I wouldn't call that dreadful

[–]frankowen18 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because we've bullied them

[–]Ceui -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Should have played Mata/Lingard/Martial on the left.

Why are Martial and Mkhitaryan not registered ? Ashley Young has been invisible except when he goes up to the ref

[–]awiyum 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Injured

[–]yzct 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Youngs been doing a great job defensively which is no doubt the reason he was included

[–]Magnehtic -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The half time whistle woke me up, the rude bastard.

[–]lestat85De Gea -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

United kicked up and down the park for 45. Somehow end up with the only two yellows of the half...