(cache) How to trigger incels 101 : TheBluePill

[–]shittybknight 68ポイント69ポイント70ポイント 13時間前 (112子コメント)

Highlights from the comments: One guy telling OP his very real and very positive experience is just his brain's last defensive mechanism before he breaks down completely, another guy saying that people can't develop hobbies or interests (or personalities) when they're older (and that you can't 'control your character or empathy'), several guys telling him his experience is irrelevant to theirs because he could change and they couldn't (ignoring the fact that he believed all those things before his trip and his change took effort and time, and that he was once, by his own words, so incel he locked himself in his house for four months and nearly starved), and the usual women-can't-be-incel crap.

They reeeeeally just want to sit around and feel sorry for themselves. They really don't like the idea that they could change.

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[–]maybe_little_pinchflying saucer 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 8時間前 (9子コメント)

Actually... The reason is just to increase positive activity. And by "positive" I mean productive in some way, not necessarily something you enjoy. The second reason is to experience success.

Why are these things important? Because if you can try something and do well at it then you can start to build confidence towards trying other things you may like better. Increasing activity also helps to decrease anxiety and depression. It gets the brain and the body ready to do, which people who are used to inactivity or negative activity (something that is unproductive, like mindlessly watching tv) need to develop.

It can also help increase social awareness. "I'm trying something that other people say they like to do to help understand why they like it." It develops shared experiences, so you have something to talk about, relate about, etc.

And in the end, you may not realize you'll enjoy something until you actually try something.

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[–]maybe_little_pinchflying saucer 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 8時間前 (8子コメント)

I replied to someone else with this comment, but I'll reply directly to you:

Actually... The reason is just to increase positive activity. And by "positive" I mean productive in some way, not necessarily something you enjoy. The second reason is to experience success.

Why are these things important? Because if you can try something and do well at it then you can start to build confidence towards trying other things you may like better. Increasing activity also helps to decrease anxiety and depression. It gets the brain and the body ready to do, which people who are used to inactivity or negative activity (something that is unproductive, like mindlessly watching tv) need to develop.

It can also help increase social awareness. "I'm trying something that other people say they like to do to help understand why they like it." It develops shared experiences, so you have something to talk about, relate about, etc.

And in the end, you may not realize you'll enjoy something until you actually try something.

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This is what I'm talking about. You dismissed Tasmosunt's experience the same way you dismissed OP's experience (remember that time when he nearly starved because he didn't leave his house for four weeks and his dad had to break in?). You assume that because someone can get better, their lives must have been so much nicer than yours, just because you refuse to believe that you can get better. You twist their experiences to fit what you think must be true, regardless of the reality. As long as you stay this closeminded, nothing's ever going to change for you.

I get that bitterness and outrage can be addictive, I've been there, but if you did want to actually change (which I'm honestly not sure that you really, truly do), those have to be the first things to go. No random stranger on Reddit can do it for you, you've got to rethink things yourself.

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How often do you actually try to talk to women? How often do you leave the house and/or get involved in the online dating scene?

You're placing way too much stock in looks. And almost certainly under-valuing those as well. It's in your head.

If you had people in school consistently calling you ugly or acting like you're ugly, those people are called assholes and bullies. Ignore them.

Listen, I'm 6'2" and 123 Lbs. You haven't seen thin like this. I'm a goddamn piece of spaghetti (Super-fast metabolism and low muscle-tone since I was little. Some sort of congenital dysfunction I tend to assume since no one knows the cause and my organs all seem fine).

I have an overbite. My right leg turns a bit inward so that my right knee faces an oblique angle.

I've had acne on my right cheek that's been there for literally years and resists all attempts to get rid of it.

Women are attracted to me. I get flirted with. Women want to talk to me.

You have to get out of your head on this. I guarantee you if women don't want to be around you, it's going to be the energy you're likely projecting as a result of the belief that you are unattractive.

Why? Because believing as if you are unattractive means you will be less participatory in social functions. Being less participatory means less women will notice you. So either consciously or unconsciously you will start to resent women for being 'snobs' and not giving you attention, even though the actual reasons for it are completely outside the women's awareness or intentions.

So you become misogynistic, and women pick up on it and want nothing to do with you.

The process repeats and sustains itself.

This is the road to Incel. The road to nowhere. Don't go down it bro.

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You 'doubt' meaning it's not put to the test. I don't know where you live, but in the US where I live it's still unfortunately part of the culture for men to do most of the initiating for stuff like this. Men are raised to think of it as their job to do so and women are raised to think it is their job not to be too sexually/romantically confident lest they be thought of as 'sluts' or whatever.

You're drawing conclusions from hypotheticals you have in your mind.

You're 6'2", that's why you're sexualy active.

No, I'm sexually active because I get out there and do stuff (not nearly as much as I should. I'm an introvert and have social anxiety like you wouldn't believe, or maybe you would.), and because a diverse number of factors go into sexual attraction.

You are grossly, dramatically oversimplifying things, and based on nothing but hypothetical assessments of fiction.

Yes, it is true that in general tall guys are rated as more attractive than short guys (especially really short guys. 5'7" isn't 'really short') all other factors being equal.

Kinda like how most guys would prefer a girl to have huge tits over small ones (never got this one myself, but whatever), all other factors being equal.

In practice however, those things tend to fall by the wayside due to all the other things you find hot and sexy about each other.

In your case, if a woman, especially an intelligent woman, were to not find you attractive, it's far more likely to be because of your hyper-simplistic view of attraction itself, as well as the psychology of women (which will show through in how you act and what you say, whether conscious or not), than anything to do with the physical.

Also, take note of the (I assume unintentional) insult here. "Your height is why women like you". In other words, it's not because of other stuff. I'm sexually hopeless without my height, in your assessment, after one comment on Reddit. This is the type of thinking that would turn women off.

You have to let go of the fear of rejection (which by the way I'm working on myself) so you can make logical assessments of things.

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Cool, but I was answering your question. Human affection is not a right that every person is inherently deserving of. Claiming your situation to be similar to someone who can't afford to live or who's getting harassed and murdered for their race because you can't get laid is really weird.

especially since I'm short/ugly

Social skills have little to nothing to do with that. Like, first off, you're probably rating yourself lower than other people do. That's just how our brains work. And while physical attractiveness is the easiest way to get people interested off the bat, it's not the be-all and end-all of relationships. Unattractive people find love all the time. If you were really observing relationships, you'd know that. (Side note- not saying this is you, but I have seen a lot of people go "no women notice me because I'm short and it's the worst!" while simultaneously only focusing on model-hot women.) And there are loads of things people can bring to the table besides a pretty face. Are you smart? Funny? Do you have any skills or interests? Because I guarantee that there's a reason people would want to date you, and writing that off because you feel like you're unattractive is only hurting yourself.

Source- am unattractive, was pretty socially awkward for a very long time, now am in relationship

And do you actually talk to women like you do men? Or do you bring the "I am basically a racial minority because I'm not Chiseled McAdonis, and love is a right that I am being denied" attitude to conversations? Because I'm telling you right now, that's a real turn-off.

If you want a script, just ask someone you feel a connection to "hey, do you want to get coffee sometime" (or whatever- activity dates are great, just saying) and- important- if she says no, back off. And actually back off, don't just sit and wait for her to love you. The not backing off is where creepiness sets in in most cases. "Hey, that's cool, so how about that local sports team" or whatever.

Sorry to throw a bunch of words at you- lmk if you want to talk.

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Like, first off, you're probably rating yourself lower than other people do.

Nope. I went on Tinder and never get matches. So I know I'm ugly. However, I've been told that I'm not that ugly, so idk if they're sugar coating, etc. I honestly rating my rating of myself is higher than other people's.

Are you smart? Funny? Do you have any skills or interests? Because I guarantee that there's a reason people would want to date you, and writing that off because you feel like you're unattractive is only hurting yourself.

I'd consider myself smart, not Einstein, but I know what's going on in the world, and I wold rank my intelligence above-average, even though I'm a bit scatter-brained sometimes. (ADHD). I used to be funny as hell, in a goofy way, but I feel like my sense of humor has died out as I've gotten older. I do have skills/interests. I do web development as a hobby, as well as social media management for bands and concert venues. I have all of that on my OKCupid profile, but still never get messages back. I got ONE message back ONE time, and I replied back as well, and she never responded.

Or do you bring the "I am basically a racial minority because I'm not Chiseled McAdonis, and love is a right that I am being denied" attitude to conversations?

Nope, I don't bring the sad stuff in except to strangers on the internet and close friends.

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I can get their thinking to a certain extent. The feeling of hopelessness, how just one flaw in you can ruin your day (if I see one whitehead when I wake up, I feel like shit, even if I use an extractor to get rid of it, and I'm sure that the average person won't care), and if 99 people give you a positive comment but one gives a negative, you'll only focus on the negative one. Self-improvement also takes ages, hard work, and is really fucking scary. But there's a reason why it's called self-IMPROVEMENT.

Seriously, kudos to this guy. Getting my first job at 22 to get enough money to finish university was so fucking terrifying. Customer-based work and I had no social skills at all. I can't imagine going to a hostel in another continent, even if he was forced to do so. But in the end it helped me so much. I'm now in a management type of position, and can actually start small talk with new workers. Unfortunately I can't continue to self-improve until I find another job. It's stopping me from trying to get a social life as I work Fridays to Tuesdays and during the night shift, and I can't move out as I need a car to get home after my shift ends.

What I never understood about them is why the fuck they treat being an incel almost like a competition. He's almost a decade older than a large chunk of them, yet he was never one of them and doesn't know their struggle? They complain about being incel all the time yet treat it like some exclusive club. I guess they just want somewhere to belong...

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