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[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll get on to say more later -

But given how she spends money and doesn't consult her partner (hi bloops!) I'd say you are being financially abused.

You know what? You don't want to do the job? Don't.

You want to do it for the money? Good.

You guys were "just fine" with your previous incomes ? Great. Add just the previous amount to the joint accounts. The rest is yours. She wants to play covert lil games... let her. She will wind up paying you alimony.

Why do you still want this woman in your bed ?

[–]onmyownpath 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Open your own checking account and send the paycheck there. Figure out exactly what half of the bills are and pay that much.

Don't be a pussy and work a career you hate. Now she can divorce you and take even more money from you. Don't you realize that you are going to die one day soon?

Oh and pro tip... Call the credit agencies and lock it down so she cannot ruin your score.

[–]sh0ckley 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I second the personal checking account idea.

The way I have it set up is one joint checking for accounted expenses - meaning the stuff that she and I both need to buy every month and the bills to keep the lights on. I made a spreadsheet. Anything not in that sheet doesn't not get paid for out of that account. There is also money in that joint account to pay for vacations which are booked on a credit card and paid off before we leave. Then there's savings going to other accounts. Last, we each have an allowance to do whatever we want with that goes to each of our personal checking accounts.

[–]sampson158 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is actually what I came here to point out. I'm in the same boat. I work my ass off and my wife disrespects that by going out and buying shoes. I find it disgusting. whe buys what she wants and I have no choice because I'm the sole earner. Fortunately for me there is light at the end of the tunnell. My ball and chain gets full time employment as soon as her student teaching is over (@ the end of the spring semester.)

As soon as she has a paycheck I'm transferring mine to a checking account she cannot access. I will even do our bills as a percentage of our income to be fair. And then she cant touch my money. I believe when there is forced acocuntability she will have no choice but to learn financial discipline. (worst case scenario she might even get put on an unnofficial-but-still-married child support based allowance, untill the student teaching is over)

After that Respect will be mandatory, or I will Nuke the marriage myself. It's currently cheaper to keep her, but after she's employed It might be more worth it for me to dump the baggage and do what I want in order to teach my son how to respect adults, be financially independent, and learn how to make money by investing, wether in dogs, cattle or land/home but he'll learn to be a real and responsible man, not a slave to a woman who thinks her shit dont stink.

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Until you gain control of the treasury, the harem cannot be yours.

Everything else in your post is irrelevant to this.

From personal experience, this is a battle that you cannot lose. This is the front line of any assault on you. You must crush it without mercy.

If you want more of my completely offensive and subversive methods I used to gain control of the treasury, let me know I will post or PM it.

I really don't think you can afford a public post on how to do this and succeed.

Your game, let me know if you want more, and how you want it.

Best

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

well, to be fair. /u/IanIronwood brings up a great point in his posts.

The Red Pill answers that issue by abandoning economic input as the factor by which dominance in the relationship is established.

and

the praxeology of the Red Pill states that heterosexual relationships in which the male leads with unapologetic dominance are the most successful.

In this case, I'd flip the table. Fuck the finances. I just bought a piano today (because I want to) and left the house for a shit test myself. At a place where I want some old hobbies again.

If she scared of losing /u/BluepillProfessor ? If not, that's arguably where he can focus. If she is, then start removing the carrot (affection, attention, commitment) to set boundaries.

Or... He can move all the furnature around the house to a different layout :)

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes. Adding to more from your Ironwood quote:

Post Red Pill - that is, once I gave up worrying about who made more money and got off my ass and led my family - it doesn't matter who makes more money. It doesn't matter how good she is at what she does. While I am fully supportive of my wife's career, the fact of the matter is that as long as she meets the basic requirements we agreed upon when we wed (stable, predictable income), she can be a neurologist or sell Mary Kay, and I'm not going to let that interfere with my responsibility as husband and father - or how I hold her to account as a mother and a wife. Not because of any silly ideal, religious commandment, or misguided machismo, but because the praxeology of the Red Pill states that heterosexual relationships in which the male leads with unapologetic dominance are the most successful.

Again, without financial dominance (not higher income) the relationship will suffer blue pill effects.

BPP, I know you have dominated this woman in the bedroom and with your kids. Yes she is tough, but fuck it, so are you.

You know the thing I have seen you do, many times, is to say things about this woman that show that you absolutely care about and admire her. Your recurring cases of Oneitis have shown up sometimes. But you never seem to give up on your marriage.

In my humble opinion, your next project now that you killed it with Sex God Method…..should be Money God Method (lol)

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Women believe they are equal to you only until they've convinced themselves they are better.

Your wife views your additional contribution to "our" money with complete and entitled ownership. Regardless of the source, as the "professional" in the family, she'll always try to pull a power play on you.

At some point, you're going to have to tear her down in her own frame of reference and poke at her weaknesses. She can't manage money, she has no sense of her spending limits, still has a student loan as a shareholder(?) in a law firm. By all measurables, she's not successful, she's average among her peers. This is why these "keeping up with the Joneses" things most likely nag at her in the back of her mind.

She tests you, because (and don't bullshit me) you respect her accomplishments. She's a silly, irresponsible, irrational and solipsistic little girl, who happens to have periods of lucidity enough to be an attorney.

If it were me, I would make the teaching an additional hobby, and adjunct 3-6 hours a semester. Why give up something you like because Ally Mcbeal goes AWALT every harvest moon?

[–]SampsonBrassMountain Man 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

He's permitted himself to be taken hostage. As FT says this is a power and a control issue not a financial or earnings issue. As I said before my wife never worked but she had inherited wealth. It was never the sword of Damocles in my household as the decisions were made by me and it was not a factor. In fairness though, I wonder if such a thing is possible anymore.

[–]RuleZeroDADMRP APPROVED [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

His lapses of oneitis allow this to happen. I also think he has an admiration that clouds his judgment until she overtly shits on his contributions.

That said, at least he's aware enough to recognize that he needs to act in his self-interest to have his sacrifice make some sense.

Attorneys are some of the worst money managers I've come across, because they are often more wrapped up in the image of the profession, than figuring out how to cash out as soon as possible.

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes, Yes, and Yes

His lapses of oneitis allow this to happen. I also think he has an admiration that clouds his judgment until she overtly shits on his contributions.

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

In fairness though, I wonder if such a thing is possible anymore.

Possible and necessary.

[–]SampsonBrassMountain Man 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I wan't referring to the financial part but are there still debs or girls who get "finished?" I guess they all go to law school now. lol

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

are there still debs or girls who get "finished?"

Yes, believe it or not, my daughter had her "debut"…..but "finished" is a very relative term today. :)

[–]SampsonBrassMountain Man [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Good for her. My oldest daughter went to law school and my youngest daughter is slated to do Teach for America. Two of my four are surprisingly idealistic.

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Your daughter's love for you is the reason I am having this conversation with you, therefore, I like her too. :)

[–]bangorlolMarried 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Quick observation on your situation (correct me if I'm way off here):

Longer hours = less presence at home for you, no? The way you described the situation tells me your wife notices this and is trying to step up into a leadership position.

Why should she let you tell your son he could bring his bike? You don't get the whole picture because you're not present. He CAN'T bring it with you because... because... Matriarch Hamster. Seems like she's slid right into the role and will continue to undermine you at every chance because "she knows best* in her mind. How could you possibly know what is best for everyone if you're not involved?

[–]BobbyPeru 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

My wife has undermined me in front of my son - it's the ultimate disrespect. When I called her out on it, she gaslighted it. I STFU.

Simple solution- she's not invited when I hang out with my son.

[–]sh0ckley 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Simple solution- she's not invited when I hang out with my son.

Bingo. +1 I've tried to include my wife in places where she is no longer welcome.

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

BPP, here's a quote from u/over60_stupid_loner Read it carefully.

Taking control of the finances is an absolute requirement for leading the relationship. Without that control, you will lack authority. You will always be trying to lead from a position of weakness. Without good financial control, you will lack an essential element you need to be an effective leader. I speak from bitter experience, and, a successful turnaround.

[–]RP_SuitScholar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for putting yourself out there. Marriage is such a shit deal, even if MRP strategies work, it is a fucking pain in the ass to have to deal with female solipsism with only dread and a nuclear option to use as a response. Oh well, that's reality. AWALT.

I will be posting my situation soon, but suffice it to say that MRP is the only thing that has kept me from going nuclear lately. I want to have a successful marriage, but the writing is on the wall and there are too many hot bitches out there I could be fucking to have to put up with this shit much longer...

[–]pikadildoPurple Pill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you guys have a budget?

I assume your role has included control of home and kitchen maintenance in the past.

Is she moving into the kitchen role?

Anyway new appliances are off budget and not discretionary I would assume. Bad behavior on that part for sure.

Divergent expectations. Needs some vision. Sorry to say it mostly sounds like she's filling a leadership void.

[–]FistFullOfBitches 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A CC for sure, creating those expectations in your head. You nobly put the financial needs of the family above your own happiness. Much adulation ensues. LOL.

But look at it another way... what you've done is not just going back to the carpet store (hilarious scene btw), but actually worse. You've hitched yourself back into the very role we stereotypically despise - you turned yourself into a BB in order to take the responsibility for the financial mess that she (I'm guessing here it wasn't 100% your fault) got you guys into. She senses the fact that a power shift occurred which is unfortunately contravariant to the salary shift and is shifting gears accordingly.

And just for hypotheticals...How many years until the kids are out of the house? Any chance she'd be owing you for alimony based on you old salary differential where you live, if you went back do your dream job? If court would split the debt in half after a split, wouldn't your working dollar would go farther paying down half the debt as a free man than it would paying down the whole enchillada in this purgatory? I mean, you've been battling this beast for a long time now.

And as an aside, there's an episode of this reality show "plastic surgeons of beverly hills" (don't ask me how I know of it) where one of the betabux doctor's wife informs him that the fridge is broken, she called the repair guy, and it was going to cost 800 bucks. So she decided they needed a new 12,000 dollar fridge. And to think they say there's nothing new under the sun...

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It has been a while since old papa blue has had to pull out his claws.

This, this right here was why I love /u/adderallabuse and his MAP. If a man had done this to you, you would have punched him in the mouth. We have a natural aversion to testing boundaries when we have the chance of a concequence.

My question is, what consequences do you have? You got attraction, attention, and commitment. with your new paycheck, may be worth having a 'week off' while you work out who is more invested.

You and I also both know, if this comes with any whiff of 'that'll show her' then it's going to backfire. It's got to come from a place like that post a few months back. The guy genuinely certain he will divorce his wife once the kids leave the house, because she is incapable of being what he desires.

Putting myself in your shoes, I have a 'fuck you' fund set aside for this reason. I definitely wouldn't be using any cash here. I'd rather go into hock

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes.

I have a 'fuck you' fund set aside for this reason. I definitely wouldn't be using any cash here. I'd rather go into hock

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Second half.

Why- after all this time- is she still a harpy to you?

If you can't set up a relationship you enjoy- why are you there?

On the finances side - its past time you lived like a single man. Literally- what is she going to do? Get upset?

Why are you so unattractive to her that she does not see a life where you aren't there? More importantly - why does she not fear such a situation?

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is the last major place that she has power over him and she uses power in a Machiavellian, DT way (AWALT).

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The way to treat this - imo and at this point is nuclear.

Games ? Ok cool. I got games.

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It always was a nuclear issue. She shows no fear, bullies, takes every advantage, but every-time the professor pushes back, she backs down. Every time.

Remember the old Billy Jack movies? Pushed the guy to the end of his non-violent rope, then he kicked ass. Same show, different guy.

[–]SampsonBrassMountain Man 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's vital to your long term financial well being that you take u/FireTempered up on his offer.

[–]PineleroMarried [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

One reason I would advise MRP guys to never have a SAHM mom is high loss due to divorce rape from alimony and child support payments (if you are unfortunate enough to not live in a 50/50 state ). So if she is low-income or SAHM then encourage her to earn more, so when you do leave her you won't be hit hard (again assuming you are smart enough to be in a 50/50 state).

Now let's be paranoid and look at your situation, since it might be that your "wife" has taken this advice. Now that you are earning more, she is at less risk for alimony. She probably knows she will get the kids at least 50% (probably more). So now that you are not huge future financial and custody risk to her, she is trying to drive you away. Well played on her part.