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I was dating Matt for a total of 8 months. The first 2 months we lived in the same city (last summer), then I moved across the States for university and we were long distance.
So me and Matt never talked about being exclusive, or even about whether or not we should call it a relationship at all. We were young, the sex was amazing, and for 18 year old me this was all I cared for, so even though it was clear that he is not husband material, I liked him because he was the "bad boy" type, dealing weed at school and all that jazz.
So when I moved he told me he loved me and we started to get a little more serious but still obvious that this was a temporary relationship very much based on physical contact. I was visiting him once every month and a half ( i am much better off financially than him so it wasn't an issue that he couldn't visit me), we saw each other for like a week and had a lot of sex. In the times between, naturally, we texted every day, and sexted quite often, and we would exchange nudes prett much weekly. Now he sent nudes much more rarely than I did, and for a long time I refused to send any but I did send one and loved his reaction. Loved it so much that I started sending more and more, more creative poses, showed him everything from every angle basically. Helped my confidence greatly! The good thing is that I always cut my face off but it is still obviously me ( i have a tattoo on my back). His nudes were basically just close up shots of his package and it could be anyone.
Fast forward to a few months ago, he suddenly stopped talking to me, WHILE I was visiting him. I did send him a lot of messages asking for an explanation and blew up his phone with calls because I was really upset. He told me to leave him alone, that I was getting too serious with him and too clingy, for wanting him to hang out with him after spending hundreds of dollars to see him apparently. At the same time, his ex before me that has been also studying abroad was also back in town at the same time, so while I don't have concrete evidence that they did anything, I know 2+2 equals 4. Anyway, I respected his wishes, was sad for a week but with ice cream, wine and good friends I got over it and moved on.
About a month ago he started messaging me again. I didn't answer so he kept spamming me, saying he's really sorry, that he misses me. I'm not interested in him at all anymore, I am currently with someone else and we are an actual couple, not some parody of a relationship like me and my ex were. I talked to my ex briefly and told him what he told me before - to leave me alone. Except that he kept messaging, saying he'll send my nudes to everybody including my mother if I dare not answer. I went on my mom's facebook and blocked him on it just in case but I don't know what to do. Do I have copyright on these photos? I doubt the police will care. Some pictures are quite embarassing.

tl;dr: ex boyfriend's feelings for me suddenly rekindle after him telling me to leave him alone, now he threatens me with sending my nudes around if I don't text him back and I don't know how to go about this blackmail. Any advice, reddit?
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[–]BeeBeeBuckley 370 points371 points372 points  (10 children)
You might have some legal recourse here, if you saved the messages where he threatens to extort you. This sounds like a question for one of the legal advice Reddit subs.
[–]Throwawayexnude[S] 79 points80 points81 points  (9 children)
Yes I am planning to head over there to these subs as well, I was hoping relationships could help me with the social side of the issue (do i talk to my ex? Do i block? Do i ask him kindly to not send my nudes? Do i blackmail him myself too? Do i keep messaging him and become his hostage? I currently left his last messages unread and it's been about a day.)
[–]lildebbiecreampie 121 points122 points123 points  (1 child)
Under absolutely no circumstances should you blackmail him with anything. You have the legal upper-hand right now and it would be a bad idea to jeopardize that. I'd strongly advise against concacting him at all, but I'm not a lawyer but a lawyer would have a better answer here.
[–]appleciders 15 points16 points17 points  (0 children)
Indeed, depending on your jurisdiction, he may already have committed the crime of blackmail by threatening you in this way. If he did release the photos, he might be committing the crime of revenge porn, again depending on exactly what he said and did and your jurisdiction. It's worth going to police station and filling a report.
Don't contact him in any way. Any contact might trigger him releasing the photos. You don't want to tip him off.
[–]BeeBeeBuckley 133 points134 points135 points  (2 children)
There's no social aspect. It's all a legal strategy from here on in.
[+]sophtine comment score below threshold-16 points-15 points-14 points  (1 child)
I'd say there is some social aspect. If he's just threatening to send nudes to family/friends, she can do what my friend did: make a fb post asking everyone ignore Firstname Lastname if they try to send them anything.
If Matt gets clever and thinks about putting them on the internet there is very little to be done, though.
[–]BeeBeeBuckley 47 points48 points49 points  (0 children)
I disagree. I think OP should respond according to what her legal advisors or the authorities advise. She is way out of her league dealing with this on her own. She needs people that are smarter than her and smarter than him who are experienced in managing this type of situation.
[–]cindel 21 points22 points23 points  (0 children)
Blackmail is very, very illegal. To to /r/legaladvice seriously. You can nail this guy to the wall.
[–]ghostdogtheconquerer 14 points15 points16 points  (0 children)
Hey! While not a lawyer yet (waiting for bar results) I used to work in a family law clinic that would occasionally handle cases involving the distribution of naked pictures without the other party's consent. You should look into whether your state distributes Protection from Abuse Orders or any other similar recourse. If your state has something similar to this, then it would give you faster results. Absolutely still contact the police - I'm only recommending this to hurry things along.
In the state where I worked, this exact threat was a legally recognized form of abuse- the clients literally did not have to do anything further than demonstrate that this type of threat was made against them to make the violation of the order illegal, which would result in the violator's arrest.
Furthermore, and this is absolutely one hundred percent not legal advice, but I would not recommend speaking to him at all. Save the messages. Do not talk to him. Contact the police.
Edit: OP, I've looked up some local resources for you. As others have mentioned, this is harassing behavior. Because of this sub's rules I can't link you to these resources, but I would be more than happy to help if you pm me.
[–]tealparadise 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
If he hasn't made the explicit threat "do X or I will Y" set up a situation for him to say it. Then it's a threat/extortion/whatever and it actually is actionable regardless of whether him simply sending your nudes is a crime.
If your last message wasn't "stop messaging me, I don't want to talk to you" then send that. That's the only communication you should have with him now.
[–]myassholealt 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
What he's doing is referred to as revenge porn, and there are laws against this in many states, though not all. Keep a copy of the texts threatening to release it and try to bait him again to explicitly state it. Then look up if it's a law in your area and go to the police. And do not blackmail him.
Edit: from wikipedia the states with a specific revenge porn law are: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California,[11] Colorado, Connecticut,[62] Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois,[63] Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan,[64][65] Minnesota,[66] Nevada, New Hampshire,[67] New Jersey,[11] New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma,[68] Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin.
[–]LateNightFright 61 points62 points63 points  (2 children)
Depending on the state, revenge porn may be specifically illegal. In every state, blackmail is illegal. Keep screenshots and records of all the threats. Tell him not to threaten you again. Try the police and show them your records. The worst it can do is nothing.
[–]angryredditor555 79 points80 points81 points  (9 children)
Continue to ignore him.
If it does go to the point of him posting nudity, facebook will definitely take the pictures down for you as fast as you report it and likely ban him from facebook permanently. Also, depending on the state you live in, revenge porn is a felony and you could also pursue legal action.
If it gets out of your hands after that, you might want to tell your parents or your boyfriend, they could also help you.
[–]Throwawayexnude[S] 29 points30 points31 points  (3 children)
Thank you, I'm afraid he won't post it on his wall though, he will probably send them privately via messenger to anyone he knows that knows me. His friends are a band of jerks who will not hesitate to make fun of me forever for it if he does it. I can't be happier to not live in this city anymore, and I'm kind of mentally prepared for it now. I talked to my current boyfriend and he's very supportive, and so are my close friends, I just hope he keeps my relatives out of it at this point
[–]theoriginalj 92 points93 points94 points  (1 child)
Text him one message "revenge porn is a felony and I will absolutely pursue legal action if you do this. Do not contact me any more. " then no more contact.
[–]real_yarrr_shug 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
I'd like to up vote this all the way to the top. Leaked nudes suck but the guy leaking them? Fucking low.
[–]angryredditor555 13 points14 points15 points  (0 children)
Yeah, its great that you have family and friends that will be able to support you through this. All of the negativity from your ex and his group of jerks can easily be ignored, especially if you live in a different area.
And if they talk to you about it, block them as they message you and screen cap the messages so you can have a count on how many people he's sent them too. Emotionally, think of everyone there who takes your ex's side are sad, miserable people, and that you are living a fulfilling life without them.
[–]PeterPorky 5 points6 points7 points  (4 children)
If it does go to the point of him posting nudity, facebook will definitely take the pictures down for you as fast as you report it and likely ban him from facebook permanently. Also, depending on the state you live in, revenge porn is a felony and you could also pursue legal action.
That's not 100% protection. He could send them in messages or via e-mail.
[–]angryredditor555 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
Can the threat itself call for legal action?
[–]PeterPorky 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
Yes, but if I were in that situation, I would want my nudes not to be shared, rather than to get justice after they are shared.
[–]angryredditor555 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
I didn't make myself clear, sorry, i mean him threading her could call for legal action, not him actually sending the nudity.

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[–]marjin 30 points31 points32 points  (1 child)
OP- what he is doing is illegal. Even if there is no specific revenge porn statute in his state, every state has a statute against harassment. If you have been clear you don't want him to contact you, and he is doing it anyway, then he is already committing the crime of harassment, even if he doesn't send the pictures. And because you used to date, this falls under the umbrella of domestic violence. The police will listen to you. If they do not, you can call the district attorney's office and ask to speak with a victim advocate.
If you don't want to go down a prosecutorial road, you can always ask a lawyer to write him a scary sounding "cease and desist" letter that may scare him into leaving it alone. If you can't afford a lawyer, a legal aid office may be able to help you. Absolutely save the texts.
Source: criminal law practitioner
Edited to add: you'll need to contact the DA and police where HE lives, not where you live. You can get a lawyer where you are.
[–]Throwawayexnude[S] 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
Thank you!
[–]Throwawayexnude[S] 36 points37 points38 points  (3 children)
Thank you to everyone. The legaladvice community told me that what my ex is doing is a felony in Florida and that I should contact the police. I will go and talk to my university's legal services when I can to ask for further help since I think that meeting an actual lawyer might be an overkill and unnecessary at this point, even though i will listen to whatever the police's advice is. My ex just messaged me again and it's a bunch of insults. I will make sure to update if people are interested.
[–]laurencl11 19 points20 points21 points  (0 children)
If he's threatening you, save everything and report to your local courthouse for a TPO (temporary protective ordinance). If granted, this is enacted IMMEDIATELY and any sort of contact he makes with you will get him sent to jail, including through 3rd parties, like mutual friends texting you. If he then tries to leak pictures, he will go to jail. For your own sake, block his number on your moms phone (that's the one I would be most worried about seeing those pictures) and wait the 30 day period of your TPO out. At that point you will both go to court to settle out this matter, where a lawyer would be beneficial (but seeing as you have some money that won't be an issue). It can then be made active for a year with options to renew. Don't fall victim to this like I did. You got this girl!!!
[–]ssnakeggirl 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
University legal services are fantastic. I had to use them as an undergrad, and for $200 my problem basically vanished. Definitely contact them!!
[–]NotoriousElderberry 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Put his ass in jail. End of story. Keep everything he sends you, do not respond, go to the police and file a report. The DA will most likely issue an arrest warrant and your problem is solved. All his electronics will be confiscated and he will be sitting in jail realizing how bad he fucked up. Then he gets to spend upwards of $10,000 on attorney's fees, court costs, and restitution programs.
Do not let up on this asshole. If he gets away with it then he'll do it to someone else.
[–]135791357 11 points12 points13 points  (0 children)
Save the messages with his threats. There are revenge porn laws. Tell him that if he dares to distribute your nudes, you will go to the police. Now, whether the police will care is a different question. But hopefully the threat will scare him off.
[–]terrapharma 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
Talk to the police and an attorney about your options. Ask the attorney what she thinks about sending a copy of his threats to his parents and asking them to intervene for you.
[–]Throwawayexnude[S] 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
This would be a good step if it were possible imo. Unfortunately his mother despises me because in her words i have been "trying to reeducate her son" thus questioning her parental skills, all because i suggested he goes to college and tries to get a degree in what passions him (chemistry) instead of working dead end jobs for low pay. All I wanted was to motivate him to follow his dreams because his whole life he was made to believe they were worthless by his mother, but for her I'm pretentious and snobby so if i told her he wants to send my nudes around, that would just add 'slutty' to the list of adjectives she refers to me with. She also manipulated him into hating his dad and cutting all contact with him because he had left her so I have no information whatsoever about him.
[–]NotoriousElderberry 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
He's an adult. Let the courts take care of it. do not engage his parents because it can be twisted in court to show you wanted him to contact you. Remember, he can hire an attorney too.
[–]khalid_salah 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
Dosen't this count as extortion? And I think in some states they have laws against revenge porn.
[–]PM_MeINeedANewWife 15 points16 points17 points  (2 children)
Cut contact other than to advise him you're reporting to the police. Then, actually report it. Save the texts messages. Some areas have specific laws for this.
You might want to ask over in /r/legaladvice if there's anything covering you in your state if he does follow through with his threat.
In any case, you shouldn't reward his threats with continued conversation or you'll never be free of him.
[–]AnorhiDemarche 22 points23 points24 points  (1 child)
Don't advise him you're reporting it to the police. just report it to the police. It's better if he doesn't have any time to prepare.
[–]PM_MeINeedANewWife 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
Not all areas have a law covering this so the cops may just take a report w no action taken. But telling him they are being contacted may scare him off just the same. That's all I was getting at.
[–]Hammerhead_brat 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
I can't comment on the legal side of this, so I'll comment what I've done when in a similar situation.
I told him to send them, because it reflects on him, not me, as I sent them to my partner who I had trusted to keep them safe and to respect me, while he would look like a dunce for sending out someone else's private pictures. He never sent them and after I basically dared him to send them I ignored him. I haven't heard from him since.
Let me give you a different perspective. My sisters now ex tried to send her his current gfs nudes. He messaged her how this girl is so much better and a bunch of other mean things. My sister, being both a smart ass, and just smart, screen shorted the texts (but not the nudes) including the part where he bragged about how he would send anyone's nudes if he wanted. Then she tagged him on facebook with those screen shots and showed the world that he was willing to disrespect those who have dated him and who might date him. Maybe screen shot where he threatens to send your nudes, post it on facebook and tag him, and say "just wanted to let the world know, I'm trying to break up with my now ex boyfriend. When I do he threatens to send images that were sent in private, and he threatens to send them without my consent"
[–]Naleid 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
It's not like your mother hasn't seen you naked before. She birthed you. Tell her you are being blackmailed by your ex with naked pictures that he shouldn't have. She probably cares alot more about that than she does about getting unsolicited naked pictures of you from an unknown number.
As for all of your mutual friends, it's social suicide. Everybody he sends your pictures to will hate him. He may not even have the balls to do it. Tell your parents, then call him out.

IMPORTANT EDIT

If these pictures of you naked are from before you were 18 it is legally considered child pornography. You could get him raided by police or worse. You can either just do that or threaten him with that if he doesn't delete the photos.
[–]Throwawayexnude[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
Yes I told my mom all while trying to be very vague about it (saying my ex is threatening me to spread things about me) because I didnt really want to say I've been sending dozens of naked pictures of my body to a guy, it is shameful for me and I would never do it again.
Also All the pictures were taken as an adult, but I do think that if you are child sending nude pictures, you incriminate yourself too because you are producing child porn yourself. I read it somwhere, so this could be wrong, but yes I was over 18 when I met him.
[–]NotoriousElderberry 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
I'm a parent. I'm a dad. Let me tell you something. If my daughter did what you did I would not be ashamed of her. I would hug you, tell you I love you, then call the police and get this punk thrown in jail. Be straight with your parents. They will defend you and they bring a ton of life experience to the table in dealing with stuff like this. Who knows? Maybe your parents have made the same mistakes? I mean, They're what... 42 or 43 years old? They made you so they're not virgins you know.
[–]Naleid 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
I'm not sure what kind of attitude or stance your mom has on things in life, but even strict parents will help you out of a blackmail situation. If he's threatening to spread rumors too just reach out to your most important friends and maybe even your workplace if he knows about that and warn them he might try to do that. If everybody is ready for it they'll know he's full of shit if he actually tries to do this.
It might be hard to admit to your mom that you've sent him dirty pictures in the past, but once she knows it might be easier to deal with all of this. Your parents are the ones you're worried about most with this blackmail right?
[–]makegrilledcheez4u 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
A group of girls did this to me like 10 years ago before there were revenge porn laws. Worst case scenario you can take legal action. I'd ignore him until then. The only thing that saved me was pretending it didn't affect me (they typically get bored if that's the case and stop). Good luck
[–]Cloud6556 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Go to the police if you're in Europe there are concrete laws against doing that
[–]lildebbiecreampie 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
That's really, really bad and I feel sorry for you. I'm a private person and would be horrified if everyone I know saw my normal-looking body in all its glory. Here's a few things I would reccommend:
Prepare for the possibility that he could very well send naked pictures of you to everyone he knows. This would be very hurtful to anyone, so please get therapy if this happens. You should get to pick who sees you naked, and he's violating that right.
I'd say immediately delete all social media accounts to preemptively remove yourself from a shit storm. It would just add stress to the situation.
Now, about the guy sending the pics, what he's doing is morally unacceptable. He's a piece of shit and if he sends the pics to everyone he's probably breaking the law in most jurisdictions.
With this in mind, you've gotta sever all contact with him immediately. He's getting off toying you along, and we don't negotiate with terrorists.
If you have text evidence of him threatening to send pic of you, I'm immediately save it and make many copies. Call the non-emergency number and say you want to make a statement. Tell them what he's threatening to do and any evidence if you have it.
That alone may not be enough to charge him, but the police will make a note of it, and may have a little chat with him that should hopefully scare the beejesus out of him. And if he actually commits the crime you'll be one step ahead.
Also, if he sends nude texts to a bunch of random people, he's immediately fucking himself over for life. If I got a text of a random naked girl I know from someone trying to embarrass her, I'd text him back saying he's a fucking piece of shit and I want nothing to do with him. I think most people would have the same reaction.
So yeah, this is going to be very shitty, but with a cool head it's possible to manage this crisis. Let us know if you need any more help!
[–]Throwawayexnude[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
Thank you, such a kind answer. I made screenshots, maybe I can tell the police that he deals drugs if he goes through with the threat haha? Though I'm not the revenge type and I just don't know how to react. I'll check in with the lawyers over at legaladvice later to see what they've got to say.
[–]lildebbiecreampie 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
It's not about revenge, it's about protecting yourself from someone who's hell-bent on terrorizing you. You need to send the message that a) you want nothing to do with him and b) you are prepared to fight back with every legal tool at your disposal.
With regard to the drug dealing thing, I don't think you need to bring that up with the police because it's not relevant to what's happening to you right now, as this is serious enough. But you can always mention that you know he's dealt drugs in the past and he might have weapons or sketchy friends. That'll make it sound like you're concerned for your safety and not just trying to fuck him over.
Legal advice should provide more insight. Also talking to an actual lawyer is an amazing step. Many of them offer free consultations, and free legal aid clinics are very much a thing everywhere.
[–]YesILeftHisAss2398 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Except that he kept messaging, saying he'll send my nudes to everybody including my mother if I dare not answer.
Thats a crime in most places. Good thing you have it in writing. At the very least, maybe speak to a police officer (go there) and have them give him a call. Most of the time they will and it will stop this.
If he doesnt stop, block him, and if he stalks you, collect evidence and write down any issues in a composition notebook. If he comes into your work, or threatens to physically harm you or someone else, time for escalation with the police. Thats all you can really do.
[–]gemc_81 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Save the texts and go to the police and file a report. Revenge porn is illegal here in the UK and some US states.
[–]Dr_Fuckenstein 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
The only real problem you have imho is if he just winds up posting them to some revenge porn site without telling people you know and/or are close to. And if he does wind up doing that honestly who really cares? Maybe he laughs about it with his buddies (you can be sure they probably already seen them regardless), and maybe a handful of random strangers you're likely never to meet IRL see you naked online and you never even realize it. No big whoop.
And beyond that this ultimatum he's given you is like the nuclear option. It's basically mutually assured destruction if he actually winds up going through with it and he knows damn well you definitely will never talk to him again if he does.
You seem to have the law on your side too, and can pretty much ream his ass if he posts the pics. Tbh l wouldn't even sweat it if I was you.
Lesson learned. Bad boys are gonna do bad boy shit, heh.
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    [–]BaghdadOlympics 5 points6 points7 points  (3 children)
    Fuck off with that. Her making a mistake is no excuse for her ex to harass her and break the law like this. That's what she's asking for advice on.
    [–]Srhink5851 -4 points-3 points-2 points  (2 children)
    its her fault for giving him the material to break the law
    [–]i_aint_sorry 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    Try telling that to, you know... the law.
    [–]BaghdadOlympics 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    She didn't make her ex harass her and threaten her with revenge porn. She already knows she fucked up by sending him the pictures in the first place. But it's not her fault he pushed it further. Either give her advice or don't post. Don't lecture her over something she already knows, it'll just stop other people asking for help in these situations. She's 19 years old. 19-year-olds make mistakes.
    [–]ssnakeggirl 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
    This is absolute BS. She sent nudes to her boyfriend because she trusted him. It's okay to trust the person you are dating, that's not a character flaw.
    [–]goodtimesbadfriends 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Ah, yes. The girl who wanted to please her then-bf is at fault....not the guy who is blackmailing her and threatening to commit a sexually-based felony.
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