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[–]uncannylizard -25 points-24 points-23 points  (40 children)
Once again, the UNESCO resolution does not once deny Jewish connection to the Temple Mount. This whole hoopla his about one section where they use the Arabic term for the Temple Mount and not the Hebrew name. That's it. There isn't one sentence about the history of the Temple Mount or it's religious significance. The one section that talks about the religious significance of Jerusalem says that it's important to all three religions.
If you read the JPost "article", the best they can do is muster a statement from Senator Ted Cruz (R., Sheol). This nonsense that surfaces in the right wing Israeli media every 3 months for some reason won't die. It's an embarrassment to Israeli journalism.
[–]ninja9875 17 points18 points19 points  (14 children)
Regrets the damage caused by the Israeli Forces, especially since 23 August 2015, to the historic gates and windows of the al-Qibli Mosque inside Al-Aqṣa Mosque/Al-Ḥaram AlSharif, and reaffirms, in this regard, the obligation of Israel to respect the integrity, authenticity and cultural heritage of Al-Aqṣa Mosque/Al-Ḥaram Al-Sharif, as reflected in the historic status quo, as a Muslim holy site of worship and as an integral part of a world cultural heritage site;
Straight from the resolution
[–]uncannylizard comment score below threshold-17 points-16 points-15 points  (13 children)
It is a muslim holy site, they are asking Israel to respect it and not damage it, as controversial as that seems to be. They didnt deny that it is also significant to Jews.
[–]rosinthebow 14 points15 points16 points  (2 children)
They say it's a Muslim holy site. They don't say it's a Jewish holy site. Anti Jewish double standard.
[–]uncannylizard comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points  (1 child)
They are talking about damage to the physical mosque and issues related to Muslims. Jews don't care about damage to the mosque, they care about the ruins underneath. UNESCO and everyone else are not petrified that the Jewish state harming Jewish sites. Be real.
[–]moushoo 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
Damage to the mosque is caused by Palestinians who regularly set it on fire.
[–]colonoscopius 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
yes they did, you are lying again
[–]ninja9875 4 points5 points6 points  (6 children)
The same resolution also states that the sites of AL-ḤARAM AL IBRĀHĪMĪ/TOMB OF THE PATRIARCHS and AL-KHALĪL/HEBRON AND THE BILĀL IBN RABĀḤ MOSQUE/RACHEL’S TOMB IN BETHLEHEM are of religious significance to Judaism,Christianity and Islam.
Clearly the same could have been stated about the Temple Mount/Al-haram Al-sharif but considering that such a statement doesn't exist in the resolution i'd say it's a clear attempt at saying that the site is exclusively Muslim.
[–]uncannylizard 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
This is nothing but parsing the text to find what you want to find. If you cant find anything denying Jewish connection to anything and you need to infer it from inconsistencies in the text, then perhaps you are not an unbiased party.
[–]tayaravakninLazy, Underpaid Zionist Shill 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
"I didn't say it's not a Muslim holy site, I just ignored Muslims!"
[–]uncannylizard 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
I wonder how many times someone on this sub has talked about the Temple Mount and Jerusalem in general as a holy for Jews without discussing how it's holy for Muslims at the same time? 1,000 times? 10,000 times? Were each of those people erasing Muslim history and denying the connection of Muslims to these places? Pure hypocrisy.
[–]cagcagIsrael 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
Are you seriously comparing posts of random people on reddit to an official UNESCO resolution?
[–]uncannylizard 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Yes, I'm pointing out how nobody assumes that you are denying anyone else's connection to an area just because you don't mention it in unrelated remark.
[–]cagcagIsrael 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Yes, because casual speech and formal documents are totally the same thing.
[–]tayaravakninLazy, Underpaid Zionist Shill -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
Gosh, I wonder what would happen if I defined the Temple Mount as a Jewish holy site and "forgot" to mention Muslims while claiming Palestinian rioters are endangering it.
What if I did that to the entire West Bank? That'd be interesting.
[–]rosinthebow 12 points13 points14 points  (16 children)
Strongly condemns the Israeli escalating aggressions and illegal measures against the Awqaf Department and its personnel, and against the freedom of worship and Muslims’ access to their Holy Site Al-Aqsa Mosque/Al-Haram Al Sharif,
The holy site belongs to Muslims. Not Jews. Straight from the resolution.
[–]uncannylizard comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points  (15 children)
Nowhere does it say that the Temple Mount isnt a Jewish holy site. They arent talking about who this site belongs to. It has nothing to do with the resolution. The resolution isnt about who owns anything or who should have access to what. Its simply condemning Israel preventing muslims from entering a site that is holy to them. There is nothing related to Jews here. UNESCO isnt worried about the Israeli government's treatment of Jews.
[–]TheGhostOfAntiHumantil7as tizi 6 points7 points8 points  (4 children)
Nowhere does it say that the Temple Mount isnt a Jewish holy site.
It also doesn't say that it's not a Buddhist holy site. You are just grasping at straws. It's indefensible. The Muslims* know exactly what they are doing and are using their influence to distort reality, once again.
edit: *The Muslim majority member countries.
[–]uncannylizard -3 points-2 points-1 points  (3 children)
It also doesn't say that it's not a Buddhist holy site.
That's right, because this resolution isn't about 'who views and who doesn't view the site as holy'. Only the Israeli media is interpreting it this way, any sane human who reads the resolution can see that it is simply talking about various damages to the Mosque or restrictions on Muslims. It is not trying to claim that one group or another has no history there. The fact that they say that the damages to the walls and windows of the physical mosque and that it is a muslim holy sites does not preclude the Jewish people having a connection to the Temple Mount. Y'all are nuts.
And you can always tell when I'm right on this subreddit because I will instantly get dozens of downvotes. If someone said something anti-semitic or blatantly factually wrong they would not get downvoted that much. Truth is clearly more dangerous than lies.
[–]TheGhostOfAntiHumantil7as tizi 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
It's more fun to only respond to this statement:
And you can always tell when I'm right on this subreddit because I will instantly get dozens of downvotes
lol
[–]The-DuderIsrael 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Truth is clearly more dangerous than lies.
We're lucky to have you.
[–]tayaravakninLazy, Underpaid Zionist Shill -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
And you can always tell when I'm right on this subreddit because I will instantly get dozens of downvotes. If someone said something anti-semitic or blatantly factually wrong they would not get downvoted that much. Truth is clearly more dangerous than lies.
Don't flatter yourself.
[–]secretlyaplant 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
Nowhere does it say that the Temple Mount isnt a Jewish holy site.
It's absence of that single sentence referencd speaks volumes.
[–]uncannylizard -5 points-4 points-3 points  (1 child)
Correct. The absence of the sentence "the Temple Mount isn't a Jewish holy site" does speak volumes.
[–]secretlyaplant 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
The eplicit reference to it being an Islamic holy site without any reference to its central, fundamental place as the Jewish holy site speaks louder.
[–]rosinthebow 4 points5 points6 points  (6 children)
Where does it say it is a Jewish holy site? Quote the section.
[–]uncannylizard -2 points-1 points0 points  (5 children)
I didnt say that it calls it a Jewish holy site. I said that it doesnt say that it isnt a Jewish holy site. In talking about damages to the physical mosque and various restrictions on muslims, it calls it a Muslim holy site. That in no way negates the fact that Jews revere the surrounding area and potential archaeological sites beneath it as holy. It wasnt included in the resolution because its irrelevant. This is outrage culture gone insane. You are desperate to be offended and are parsing the text to find something, anything, to offend you.
[–]rosinthebow 2 points3 points4 points  (4 children)
Why doesn't it talk about restrictions for Jews? Jews aren't allowed to pray on the Temple Mount, why isn't that worthy of UNESCORTED resolutions?
[–]uncannylizard -2 points-1 points0 points  (3 children)
Now you've given up and are talking about a completely different issue and not talking about whether UNESCO denied Jewish connection to the Temple Mount.
[–]rosinthebow 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
UNESCO could have treated Jews and Muslims equally. It could have talked about how the Temple Mount is a holy site for both Jews and Muslims, and how both Jews and Muslims face restrictions praying there. But it didn't, it only cared about Muslims. That's a double standard against Jews. Agreed?
[–]uncannylizard -3 points-2 points-1 points  (1 child)
If you have nothing left to say in defense of the accusation that UNESCO denied Jewish connection to the Temple Mount then the conversation is over. You have nothing to say and want to change the topic on to something else that you would prefer to discuss.
[–]rosinthebow 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
It's clear to me that UNESCO deliberately left out any references to the Temple Mount being a holy site to Jews and not by accident.
[–]momarchist 5 points6 points7 points  (6 children)
Check Haaretz.
[–]uncannylizard 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
Haaretz is fully capable of being stupid, and they regularly are. All they did was repeat a thousand statements from the Israeli foreign ministry and Israeli politicians, referencing nobody else and not even UNESCO themselves. At least JPost found someone outside of Israel (Ted Cruz) to repeat their claims, even if they needed to go to the 8 or 9th circle of Hell to find him.
[–]momarchist 4 points5 points6 points  (4 children)
What would be a "valid" source for you?
[–]akivachaimארץ ישראל לעם ישראל על פי תורת ישראל 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
I'm guessing Der Sturmer.
[–]wafflesnsyrup 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
Or Al Jazeera
[–]jbustter2Israel -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
you shouldn't be downvoted, that is a good point.

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