Reminder: Our Community is Spoiled

SipexFelane · 5時間前

Don't worry, you'll be disappointed in us soon enough.

LittleDucky17 · 5時間前

Yeah. They're really working hard. I bet they're probably working on a Christmas event right now even though they've just released the Halloween event.

We're probably getting Sombra next week in the PTR and the official release will probably be after the Halloween event -> amomentincrime will hit 100% in about a week. When you think about it, I don't think they'll stack all the content so much. They'll spread it more evenly so we won't get bored.

Edit: even -> probably

BigBlueDane · 3時間前

I think blizzard does a great job but I wouldn't call us spoiled. They produce this content because it makes them money and lots of it. Not out of the kindness of their hearts. Blizzard is still a business. (Yes I know that it's """"free"""")

What I will say they do a very good job at is listening to the community feedback and quickly implementing new features and fixes. You can tell the team is genuinely passionate about the game which is nice and a lot more than can be said about other game companies.

BlaxRose · 2時間前

I mean... you pay for the game so you do have right to give critism aint it?

The customer is the king.

Djwindmill · 2時間前

!RemindMe 3 months "This isn't valve, the devs do care."

iSammax · 2時間前

I think you've mixed up something. Community is not on the receiving side only. Developers are doing great job, that's true, but they are not feeding us skins and content for free. You have to pay for it either with your time or with your wallet. People that work full-time and have a family won't be able to farm boxes all three weeks in a row every day so they end up dropping a little bit of cash to get these skins. This is pure business. And if you're working full-time and you reject to pay more - you're pretty much screwed unless you're lucky to get something out of the 10 boxes you'll get during 3 weeks.

slimebrains · 2時間前

Reminder: we payed for this game and if they released their daily loot box sales you wouldn't think Blizzard as a philanthropist or hand that's feeding us.

SmokeFrosting · 1時間前

You look at csgo and they get operations pretty regularly, cases, and other stuff.

You look at SMITE, and they get new gods, skins, and other stuff fairly often.

Same with LoL, DotA2, and a ton of other games. Don't make it out like Blizz is the only one who updates their games for free, because in reality they're trying to entice you to buy their more profitable gambling system. Set price dlc would probably make them less money then the current system now. So many people have already bought lootboxes, without waiting until the end of the event just because they have no patience.

Gondile · 4時間前

Oh, fuck off. It's a $60 game with microtransactions. We aren't "spoiled" or being "treated well", we're being given a service that we paid for by a company that makes money.

Try not to suck off the "hand that feeds" so hard.

EDIT: There are good companies and there are bad companies. Regardless of your opinions on Blizzard, there is no need to self flagellate yourself for a company, nor is there a need to hump their leg. Blizzard isn't our fucking dad, they are a company that is selling a product that we paid for (Overwatch) and that we are currently paying for (Lootcrates). Save the hero worship for 76.

DaedalusMinion · 2時間前

Don't bite the hand that feeds.

Reminder: You Are a Moron

I love Blizzard for what they do but at the end of the day I paid $40 with the expectation of a continuously updated and fun game. Ain't no way I'm going to go around treating Blizzard like they're offering me parts of their game for charity. Seems like there's just two extremes to this community, the people who will always hate Blizzard no matter how much good they do and people like you who treat Blizzard like they're saving lives in Syria or something.

teeno731 · 2時間前

Eeeeeh... I wouldn't call it spoiled to expect frequent updates in a game I payed $80 for, has no singleplayer and has a cosmetics feature heavily designed around microtransactions, which during these events partially locks players out of this feature for not putting in extreme effort or paying money.

BioshaqInfinite · 1時間前

Well actually these free updates are what we were promised. Blizzard isn't treating us extremely well. They are giving us what we paid for. We were promised free updates and heroes, and that is what they are doing, which is their job.

MrCastiglia · 2時間前

Fuck off. Blizzard is a business not a NGO, they are not being nice or anything, they want to turn a profit.

I shouldn't be thankful for people doing their jobs in their best in terest. Why would I?

AtillaTheFun96 · 1時間前

Reminder: This community sucks Blizzard's dick because Overwatch as a whole is a good game that attracts uneducated children and casuals who are too trusting of companies that exist solely to make money, thinking that Blizz are their "pals" and therefor everything they do is out of generosity for them.

Give me a break dude.

Gharvar · 2時間前

I just came back to the game but since the game came out, what did we get exactly? 1 new map, 1 character and some cosmetic stuff?I would not exactly say we have it super good. I'm fairly certain they said that we would have new content often but really that's not the case.

I wish they made it so finishing/winning a brawl once a week would give a crate.

ronaldraygun91 · 2時間前

Wow really? How much money did they make off of the game and how much do they continue to make from loot boxes? Don't fucking call the community spoiled when this continues to be the case.

They give a new map, a new hero in how many months and a unique brawl twice and yet we are spoiled? Get over yourself OP

imGlitch · 2時間前

Overwatch is the best selling game in video game history and they released total of 4 content patches (1.1-1.4) and total of 1 hero this year.

One of those patches was purely promotional event to sell more loot boxes.

Would hardly call it spoiling honestly.

RottenRailing · 2時間前

Sure, I appreciate the fact that the game is buggy af after the patch. Thanks, Blizzard!

Trickelodean2 · 2時間前

As a past TF2 player I'm just happy the Dems talk to us

Shabbahr · 1時間前

Dude, Overwatch is a full priced game that came out with the promise of future content updates. Why do you want to suck blizzards dick so eagerly?

eagles310 · 1時間前

Wow what a Blizzard shill you are, Blizzard and Overwatch team advertised and promised before release that this would have these things or events, because let's be honest there isn't really that much meat to the game when it released for a full priced game. I don't lnow if you have noticed but this gen is full of other Arena Shooters and FPS so please don't make Blizzard like they are gods when other types of games and Companies do the same

simward · 47分前

"Spoiled" might be a strong word. But I'm a bit saddened by some of us ITT with their low regards for Blizzard. OP perhaps badly phrased the intention of the post.

Yes, the game is 40/60$
Yes, there are similar games/genres/business models that are free
Yes, loot boxes are a gambly system to extort even more money

But you know what? Find another AAA gamedev that :

Listens this much to the community
Actually has the lead dev make detailed videos explaining upcoming changes, the mindset behind them.
Actually has the lead dev communicate on forums
Shifts development efforts in different directions following feedback (client tick rate for example)

I could go on and on. I love Blizzard because I know that the people who work there have it in their heart that respecting their clients, making great quality games and downright fucking cool and epic shit all around! Of course they are in it to make money, that's the social contract we have in all this. I give money to Blizzard because I expect that way of doing games (and business) is upheld.

Ahem... That being said, to me, Hearthstone is in a weird ass place in regards to that... I litterally stopped playing that game after it was clear that dev team is NOT in the same mindset as SC2, Hots and OW teams

lorddragonmaster · 2時間前

They don't work hard for us. They work hard for our $$$.

kokugatsu · 2時間前

?

What are you on about

Lumpy_Queen · 4時間前

I'm glad they took there time with the update, they made it perfect and i appreciate it, worth the $60 tbh.

Adam-SB · 1時間前

Companies just love people like you, you know that? You're here shilling for them and they don't even have to pay you! Blizzard aren't a charity. They're not doing this out of the kindness of their hearts, they're doing this for the hundreds of millions of dollars they're raking in.

Never make the mistake of thinking that Blizzard cares about you. They are not your friends. They are a profit driven company. Everything they have done and continue to do is to make money. The dev team and community managers do what they do because they're being paid to do it. They do good work but that's what I expected when I paid for their product.

Don't bite the hand that feeds.

Give me a break. They asked for €40 and promised X, Y and Z. We paid €40 and received X, Y and Z. Don't act like they did us a favour.

TrixRidiculous · 1時間前

Idk. I don't feel too entitled. They know whenever they do something like this they're getting $40 (or more....) :( out of me. I'd say that's thank you enough. Yes they work hard but cash speaks louder thank Thank Yous

ItsJigsore · 1時間前

it's just filler. I'm fine with it as long as something with substance is in the works though.

mind_blowwer · 1時間前

I've been playing for about 3 weeks now, and I'm honestly looking forward to some new maps. I'm not bored yet, but I would like some more maps.

Sh1tSh0t · 1時間前

I'll be thankful next month when the theme is related to Thanksgiving.

cookswagchef · 28分前

Jesus fucking christ at the bitching in this thread.

MyriadGuru · 17分前

We're all spoiled now.

boredasshitrightnow · 16分前

Jesus blizzard fanboys are blind

showmeyourclam · 12分前

Are you serious...? Don't bite the hand that feeds is the most brainless consumer sheep thing to ever say about a corporation that wants your money.

Jay_Button · 4時間前

I decided I would pay a dlc because they deserve it. I will buy lootboxes instead.

crimekiwi · 2時間前

I think that these posts bother me because it's not like the devs do it out of the kindness of their hearts, they're just smart businessmen who know that quality products gives them more money. They're not gonna quit giving content because the community bitched too much, they're not our parents. Bliz is seeing the appreciation in their wallet, I'm sure whiny people on forums don't do much more than make them roll their eyes and chuckle.

claudiohp · 4時間前

Just apply to some.

others like me, were playing for 2 months straight with excessive ping, and that time took blizzard to fix it. Think we had to spam enough everywhere, we even harassed jeff kaplan to acknowledge our problem, because we weren't getting any answer from any blizzard staff. Took a month for blizzard to make a response. Nowadays still the ping keeps going up and down between every round.

Also, I don't want to sound a little harsh, but remember we're paying to play this game, and it's the most expensive game of it's genre.

Tattered · 4時間前

The team is amazing and I appreciate their hard work.

However there are parts of the game that are toxic that need to be changed and they will never be changed unless we speak up.

iiJokerzace · 1時間前

As long as we are paying, we are spoiling THEM. I'm sure they make the money then needed and more from all the lootboxes being purchased as we speak. Don't ever think you owe the company,they'll take advantage (like they haven't already)

Flipflop_Ninjasaur · 2時間前

As an avid complainer about not being able to directly purchase holiday skins with coins or otherwise, I'm ecstatic about them listening to us.

However, I'm completely baffled at the people complaining about the price now. C'mon people.

pillbinge · 2時間前

A community is spoiled for asking what it was promised.

Splinterbee · 3時間前

I was feeding a gopher once, and it bit me.

Don't be a gopher.

Mike312 · 2時間前

ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS A MERCY SKIN AS MRS. CLAUS

Outflight · 2時間前

I take a break during those droughts, works quite nice if you feel drained.

naysawyer · 2時間前

Remember when they made games last ten years without any updates?

Omega068 · 1時間前

This is true to a point. There's give and take to it. It's not like they're really giving us this completely for free. With the exception of the brawl, they are asking either time or money.

Which I'm ok with as long as it feels fair. This time it does. So yay!

Milkiest_Cookie · 1時間前

Yeah all I see are "add this! and "Add that!". Though the things they want the devs to add would be cool we need to appreciate that they even are giving us a seasonal event in the first place. And its a shame that seasonal events aren't more popular in other games.

nitorita · 1時間前

My take on the pricing and microtransaction of OW is as follows:

We pay $40 or $60 (+tax in some cases) for a game where we're given full, complete access to all of its gameplay elements.

Practically all premium items can be had by just playing the game; there's no need to have to pay any additional cost to earn them. Some things need you to play longer, some don't. This is similar to having to "unlock" items in RPGs by doing some progression or leveling up.

Now, keep in mind that Activision-Blizzard is ultimately in the business to make money. Overwatch is running out of people to sell the game to which is akin to how the original Nintendo Wii sold like hotcakes and basically everyone who wanted it, bought it, and then there was basically nobody else to sell it to.

In order for the company to make more money off of Overwatch, they would have to resort to creating microtransactions or offering DLC, which is considered "bad" or "despicable" among the majority of gamers.

However, the Overwatch Team is kind enough to keep that to a bare minimum; they don't lock any particular premium behind a paywall and you can work your way to earn the premiums you like by simply playing the game. The only inconvenience is that they make certain premiums limited to time-restricted events (i.e. Summer, Halloween, Christmas, and so on).

They're not forcing anyone to buy the Loot Boxes with cash, but it's ultimately the only other way they can make money from the game (for the moment). They're not mass marketing the Loot Boxes nor are they plastering it all over the game to shove into your face. It's under a single button in the game that you can completely ignore. They can sell skins individually for cash, but then people would only buy one or two skins and then stop buying from them for an extended period of time.

The Loot Box system is a way for them to essentially sell "lottery scratchcards," which, although sounds like a pretty disappointing move to do, is actually a very intelligent thing to do from a business standpoint, as those who have money to burn will spend wads of money for what they want. And these are the people who the company wants to target to maximize their profit. The unlucky people are the ones who help them earn more. They haven't tampered with the probabilities at all.

All in all, I'm not displeased with what they've done with the game. It's a really good game. Really, it is. Enjoy it for what you feel it is worth. Not what others feel it is worth. If you want to spend more money on the game for the Loot Boxes, go for it if it makes you happy.

mwax321 · 1時間前

I just paid $30 for a random shot at getting the new skins. I think I thanked them enough.

Need4Sleep2016 · 1時間前

Blizzard seems like one of the few companies that actually care, them and CD Projekt Red give me hope that big budget, original and great games that don't try to force money out of you at every turn will still be a thing years down the line.

When CD has a season pass, it actually has tonnes of content. When Blizzard has micro-transactions, they're non-intrusive and completely cosmetic. Both of which have been wildly successful. Take note gaming industry.

jk_baller23 · 1時間前

Maybe one thing they could add is a separate secondary experience bar that is just for the event. You'll only get loot boxes from this, not the primary experience bar, yet you'll gain experience in both and level as you normally would. Then gaining loot boxes will be fair for everyone.

CloudNimbus · 1時間前

S76 voice: We're all spoiled now.

cheekiestNandos · 1時間前

I still can't believe the "I'd spend 10x the coins if I could buy summer skins" people that are complaining about the cost of the ones in this update.

King-Tacqitos · 1時間前

Uh no.

We get a lot of toxicity especially here on Reddit, Blizzard favors PC and touament players (Not saying that's bad I'm saying all platforms and plays deserve equal treatment) not taking others even though along could fixed if they would. The console servers are laggy to the point it's almost unplayable. We just now got horde mode and it's probably only this once so no.

We do not have it good. A certain minority of the community does but not all. Don't get me wrong I love this game and Blizzard I'm just saying they need to start treating console players equal and listen a little closer to more than just competitive tournament goers

redmotive · 1時間前

Or . . . you just have low standards and enjoy being treated with the bare minimum.

And try to remember they're doing this for themselves. They're following their business model and delivering us due service.

edit: u/Gondile and a bunch of other level-headed people put it nicely

Lady_Ferrets · 1時間前

Videogames are hard to make and nobody should lose sight of that, and there's a lot of misguided, overblown and unrealistic expectations in every fanbase, but this post is almost borderline apologetic.

You're a consumer. Assume a critical position. You don't have to kiss butt to appreciate something.

Their hand isn't "feeding" us. We're feeding them. Do not lose sight of that.

rharvey8090 · 1時間前

I have yet to be disappointed at all. Everything about this game is amazing.

Sleezy_B · 56分前

I was a huge Destiny player for the first two years, into Taken King, had massive expectations that just weren't delivered on. Hadn't heard of OW until two weeks prior to release, and the support from the devs is just icing on the cake of a well balanced beautifully polished gaming experience. Gaming companies should look at Blizz and emulate to the best of their abilities.

Flashmanic · 45分前

Blerg, this is some next level fanboyism.

Look, we are being given a service. Blizzard aren't our pal, doing us a solid by giving us some content every now and then. They are putting content through their pipeline to keep us playing their game and to keep the community alive. This keeps game still relevant in a few years so more people keep buying the game and the microtransactions inside it.

J-osh · 44分前

I mean Blizzard tends to be really good, one of the main reasons I keep supporting them through the years

JacobDanielM · 43分前

Seriously glad they don't charge for maps or characters like Evolve 🙄

Icil · 41分前

Whatever man, it is some shill stuff to believe that fleeting, temporary content at a price premium is better than permanent additions that bring more people into buying the game in the first place.

Jackalackan · 37分前

Idk man unless interest in the game itself wanes Blizzard has always done a pretty good job of keeping a continuous flow of content

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