Game Review Bias is real.

126CK_1981 · 2時間前

The best thing anyone can do is come to their own conclusions about the quality or lack thereof regarding any given game. Reviews [in magazines] held far more weight 20+ years ago when they were literally the only way of getting any kind of information on a game's finished product. Or you had to wait with the hope that either a friend bought it, or hope the local video rental store purchased the game. Otherwise so many titles were blind purchases especially in the NES days. Imagine being stuck with a pile of shit because you had no way of knowing if the game would be good or bad? With the advent of YouTube, there's far more ways to come to educated opinions on whether a game will meet whatever it is you're looking for in particular about it. Word of mouth tends to work for me just fine nowadays, and I can't recall the last time I put serious faith into a gaming media review.

screeling1 · 4時間前

Give a listen to the guy who does ACG on YouTube. His reviews are great. He has his own biases, but admits them, and accepts others may be different. His reviews last about 10-15 minutes. They're not scripted, but still well thought out.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AngryCentaurGaming/about

The_Fauc · 3時間前

GoW4: 84 Halo 5: 84 FH3: 91 FH2: 86 Ori: 88 Forza 6: 87 Titanfall: 86 Recore: 63 Rare Replay: 84

Uncharted 4: 93 Bloodborne: 92 LoU Remastered: 95 Driveclub: 71 NMS: 71

Where's this egregious bias? The only poorly reviewed major Xbox exclusive I could find was Recore which had a lot of issues and a boring late game after a super promising start. Cherry picking reviews from non major outlets is a futile strategy. GoW isn't going to suffer because a third rate outlet gave it a 5; same goes for other big exclusives.

kingwroth · 4時間前

It seems like you care too much about overall aggregated review scores, and nit individual reviews from reviewers you trust and like. It doesn't matter if one reviewer gave it a bad score, they can give it whatever they want. All that matters is how view it, whether you believe that review is important or not. Just follow a couple of reviewers you like and read their reviews.

milero91 · 4時間前

Reviews are opinions. I own both a PS4 and an Xbox and hold varying opinions on games on both platforms not based on bias. For example I tried Gears and thought it was terrible. That's my opinion.

You mention bias but then go on to talk about why gaming press hate on xbox and that it's clearly the console to own now...but I disagree. The playstation library IMO is more varied and has much better exclusive games both released and to be released (more indies, Uncharted 4, R&C, Bloodborne, Persona 5, Resogun, Journey). It sounds like you're just a bit paranoid to be honest.

mtg_island · 4時間前

It happens. Whether its bias based off of sponsorships or wanting to be a clickbait website or simply bias based off an individuals personal opinion is sometbing that we will never really no. Its always happened with reviews of anything and always will.

Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it. Your best way to counter not agreeing with that website is ignore it. Dont provide them with the traffic and ad revenue. And if you are passionate about a game just let people know. More people buy games off of word of mouth of friend reviews/gameplay stories than websites in my experience. I myself stopped looking at review scores around the same time xplay was taken off the air. I skim the review and look for the summary and pros snd cons and make my own judgement from that.

mando44646 · 3時間前

Oh come on. Reviews are educated opinions, nothing more.

Reviewers tore No Man's Sky apart. And you think they are pro-Sony and biased against Microsoft? Grow up

phantomdc4 · 4時間前

The first mistake is giving credibility to, or basing a purchase on, an opinion someone is paid to have. Who cares about reviews? Play a beta, or a demo, or rent it first.

McleanO · 2時間前

I don't believe anyone who calls themselves Redditsgamers.

Please, leave.

Redditsgamers · 4時間前

Its not just reviewers i was in gamestop just last week and one of there employees straight up told me id never ever buy xbox, im like why man the xbox one s is great, his exact response was "fuck xbox, im sony for life". i just rolled my eyes and walked out, what a shitty close minded person.

Benreineck123 · 3時間前

This is going to sound cheesy but if you buy the product and like it that's all that matters. It doesn't matter if the reviews suck or not

atomicpenguintrooper · 4時間前

I don't know why people trust websites like they're singular entities, its the individual reviewers you should be looking for and finding a few you like and tend to align on (for example, I really like Simon Miller and Jim Sterling - and I know when I'll disagree with their conclusions).

If you constantly find yourself at odds with these websites and companies, chances are you'd be much better served simply not bothering to look at them. There bias, or simple different view point to mine hardly affects my own enjoyment of these games.

PixelBandits · 4時間前

I do game reviews etc. and try to be as impartial as possible. There are some games I've completely lost my shit over, rocket league, trackmania and a couple of others getting super high scored, and things like NHL or tour casey powel lacrosse getting quite "low" scores.

At the end of the day of course I have to go by just an opinion of the game, and the opinion is going to be different for different folks (I loved The final Station but know another review who got bored with is very quickly).

When people close their minds though and just say "well I haven't liked XXX games in the past so I won't like this" or the console bias is just incredible. I've never understood people like that

what probably helps in our case is that we don't use clickbait just as a matter of ******* moral integrity... lol

Legionaryprime · 3時間前

I'm a multi console owner that owns an Xbox one, ps4, and Wii u., and is primarily an xbox guy. I'm just tired of all this console war bs among reviewers and forums.

Some reviewers definitely are biased. I definitely believe that. I'll go as far and say some may be paid by Sony. It's not out of the realm of possibilities.

I just hate the so glad 'war' between the fans. Its just pointless to me

Same with the marvel vs dc war. Dc got the short end of the stick this year but critics gave shit like Thor 2 a pass? I give up.

I stopped caring about reviews years ago and Batman vs superman was the final nail on the coffin on them for me

Catch_42 · 3時間前

Reviews are an opinion.

Not everyone will have the same opinion as you.

Just because a review doesn't match the wider consensus, or your opinion, doesn't mean it's clickbait.

So yes, reviews are biased. That's the point.

FlameCats · 3時間前

It makes me sad the rampant fanboyism nowadays, hating on games just because theyre Nintendo Sony or Xbox, if you hate a game thats cool but dont just overlook it because of the company- you miss out on so many amazing games.

Bloodborne is one of the greatest games this generation, alonhside Ori and the Blind Forest, dont get me started on how fucking awesome Mario Kart is.

skatinbrad2 · 3時間前

Experiences are subjective, some will be addicted and fall in love with a game, some will hate it. I like negative reviews because often they point out flaws

Gruntmaster720 · 3時間前

Some sites are definitely biased and use a lot of clickbait but its not exclusively against xbox games, some site gave uncharted 4 a 4/10. So i agree that this happens a lot but i disagree thats its only against xbox.

TanFlo1997 · 1時間前

PSA: Stop giving support to sites like Kotaku, IGN, GameInformer, etc. AdBlock their sites or simply, don't watch their YouTube channels. Hit em where it hurts, their pockets.

retrovertigo · 38分前

As somebody who has reviewed games in the past for multiple gaming sites, I can say that sometimes the wrong person gets the game. Generally, you don't want the person who dislikes certain genres to review new games of that genre, especially ones that may generate a lot of interest (like holiday blockbusters). However, sometimes a gaming site can generate a lot of hits, by posting flame-bait articles. Sure, this could generate a lot of page views in a short amount of time, but it could also backfire and risk becoming an unreliable source or get "blacklisted" by gamers.

It could be that the person did have some genuine issues or complaints. Or, in the instance of a PC gaming review, perhaps there were crashes or issues running the game, or their video card isn't supported, or their PC, in general, just isn't capable of running the game at it's optimum settings, that can turn a well-reviewed game by others into a low score by this particular site.

What I recommend is not taking the 10/10 reviews for face-value, and don't entertain the lowest scores, either. Read a variety of reviews, find out what they like, and what they don't like. If there seems to be common complaints or praises, then those points might be valid.

I would also recommend watching video reviews as well as people playing the game on Twitch or Google Gaming (is that still a thing?).

If the reviews and the video clips you've watch seem to be enticing, then maybe the game is for you. My two cents.

Sanders67 · 19分前

Lets put things back into perspective here, Sony is selling loads of units and creating hype around its console.

In other words, 3 out of 5 players own a PS4, if you own a website and want to make money with clicks and advertisement you're better off not throwing bags of piss at the majority ... get where I'm going with this?

Yeah, sure .. it's been biased since launch because the press is siding with the winner.

I know a few people who write articles and reviews for well known websites, and they have directives and a specific posture to adopt.

Long story short : don't piss off Sony fanbase, they generate a lot of money.

Hitting on Microsoft gives them the boner? Well go on, make that click count go up.

I've been sitting in that chair in the past fighting for every click you can get, I know what it's like and I know why they're going what they're doing.

Not even going to mention all the consoles, peripherals, tickets, hotel nights being offered by Sony to the press in general to make them lean their way even more.

A friend of mine was offered a PS4 + hotel night + dinner + movies and a load of games just for attending a Playstation meeting.

You can call it bribery or whatever you want, Sony is smart enough to pass this as "presents" without making it suspicious.

What's funny is that Major Nelson was accused of bribery when he invited Tyler Malka to assist at the E3 conference ... that same dude who accepts loads of shit from Sony without saying a word.

Yes, the industry is clearly biased, in every form and every way.

And I'm convinced websites like Eurogamer are on Sony's paycheck (people have been suspicious since 2005 : http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/a_e32005reactionnotbias ).

But understand one thing : it goes both ways.

When Microsoft will be dominating again, the press will be kissing their ass as well.

Players are arrogant, the market is very unstable and all you need is a wrong step to lose it all.

Let it be, there is nothing you can do about it.

Take reviews for what they are : opinions.

xooxanthellae · 10分前

IGN gave Devil's Third a 3.5 without even playing online at all, even though it was already common knowledge that the online multiplayer was the core of the game. They just straight up admitted in their review that they didn't play online.

So, yes, other consoles get some unfair reviews too.

Loopernator · 2時間前

I bet you're the kind of kid who also thinks movie reviewers are bias against DC and pro Marvel

PurifiedVenom · 3時間前

I wouldn't really say there's a bias. I liked Recore a lot but it had a ton of problems. Knack, The Order and NMS have all be torn apart by critics regardless of being PS exclusives.

The_Holy_Bison · 1時間前

I was reading an article about crossplatform play the other day, and even though MS has been HUGE on pushing for it, the article made it seem as if MS was the hold out and not Sony.

GUTIF · 4時間前

I agree it's pretty undeniable at this point. Slant Magazine and Kill Screen both rated No Man's Sky a 90 and 87 respectively and Gears 4 50 and 68 respectively.

Nothing anyone says about opinons, etc. That's bias flat out.

teddy1590 · 3時間前

The best way to deal with shitty, contrarian click-bait reviews is just to ignore them. Talking about them leads to people checking out their site, which gives them page clicks and ad revenue - exactly what they want.

Who cares if a crappy review knocks a game down a point on metacritic. It shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the game.

EgoDogg · 3時間前

Everybody is going to have different opinions on the game. The important thing is that a fan of the genre is reviewing that particular game. If somebody that only likes Shooters is reviewing a game like Forza, that review will likely suffer. On larger sites such as Gamespot, that shouldn't occur. However, smaller sites with only a few reviewers may not match the popular opinion just because the person reviewing it is not a fan of that genre.

Source: I run a website with only 2 different reviewers, and one's favorite genre is JRPG's. When she reviews a game such a Rocket League, there's a lot of collab that needs to be done during the process to keep bias out of it.

Shrimp_my_Ride · 2時間前

Reviews are just opinions. It's best to read around until you find a few reviewers that you tend to agree with and utilize them.

iHeartCandicePatton · 1時間前

Game "journalism" as a whole is just utter garbage. Not necessarily only when talking about the Xbox.

Mephb0t · 1時間前

Reviews are just opinions. Every review is biased.

th3groveman · 48分前

Most reviews are actually inflated. Gaming communities often views anything under an 8 as to be "unplayable garbage". So what happens is that a review at 7, the community explodes with negativity and the review which was probably saying "this is a good game with some issues, but it's still worth playing" ends up seeming like panning the game.

Most people seem to read reviews just for validation of their own preconceived biases and expectations. People pre-order everything anyway so reviews are rarely used for what they should be - helping to make a purchase decision.

mobin_amanzai · 46分前

I personally never look at reviews for anything (movies, tech, games, etc), I like to form my own opinion on things and do my own research. Why would you consider buying something of what someone else says?

AT0MIC_ASH · 43分前

I watched a mighty no 9 review with someone completley trash talking the game . After i had watched it i read the video description where he said " if you have a problem with my review , feel free to send me money so I can purchase the game and actually play it to look more into its flaws. " . I know it was just some guy on YouTube but I found the review very easy by just searching mighty no 9 in google and this seems to be becoming more and more the attitude of game reviews recently. Wtf is wrong with people. Stuff like this is somewhat of a cancer on the gaming community. Just spreading hate on the game off pure hear say .

JudgeJBS · 34分前

It's because ms propped up polygon and tried to destroy most of the smaller reviewing sites but edging them out.

With that said, game reviewers are mostly worthless and you're better off just watching gameplay and deciding on your own if you want to try it out

avi6274 · 3時間前

That's because Playstation's exclusives blow xbox's one out of the water. The amount of care and polish that goes into all of their games are incredible.

I have almost never seen anyone dislike or at least not appreciate Bloodborne, The Last of Us, Journey etc. That is more than I can say for Microsoft's games (except forza and early Halo titles).

FartHog69 · 2時間前

You realize these are completely arbitrary right? That there's no objective way to measure how fun a toy is? It seems to me you're upset that people have different opinions than you.

Btrips · 2時間前

Agree 100%. Some review sites are simply giving out low scores for clickbait and it seems to happen more for Xbox than PS. Anyone that denies this is living in a fantasy world.

elzeus · 1時間前

Phil Spencer recently called this out too. I put his remarks on this subreddit and the mods locked it after it reached the #1 spot.

didnt_check_source · 2時間前

Media bias is and will always be a thing, and it's arguably necessary for reviews. If you just want to know if you'll like a game or not, the best thing you can do is find a reviewer who has the same biases as you.

Lymiss · 2時間前

This is the reason why I stopped reading and listening to these mainstream reviewers. I only read customer reviews now and even then I take what some of them say with a pound of salt. People need to do their research about the games they want before they buy. Know the studio, know the publisher and know what is expected from this game.

AArkham · 2時間前

I agree with you in a way. Reviews coming from certain sources raise an eyebrow. For example, Gears and Halo 5 had respectable scores, but CoD will come out this year and score nearly perfect from larger media outlets and the reasons GoW or Halo were counted off will be praised (too familiar, changing too much, etc). At the end of the day reviewing games is a business and many will give a favorable or unfavorable review that suits their interests.

TadgerOT · 1時間前

Some reviews do seem a tad sinister, but the problem is how do you measure someones aptitude of gaming vs bias.

Its an opinion, and even though some of these journalists might be jesus when it comes to the writing of witty sentences, it doesn't necessarily mean they can play games like him.

I mean we have all seen the reviewers slagging a game off, then witnessed the corresponding gameplay video... and thought to ourselves - "What the f.. How can someone be so shite AND review games?".

Thats the thing though, its a job.

I've worked with people in the IT industry that either hated IT or just kinda fell into it. They never really wanted it, it just kinda happened or they followed the money. They were competent, but there was no real passion there, like watching a chef do the washing up.

Sometimes, I get the same vibe from certain reviewers.

Point4ska · 1時間前

"Grounds for removal of your reviewing power?" What the hell? People are entitled to their own opinions and bias, even if they're shitty ones. Reviews are not intended to be objective, or rather if you treat them that way you are a fool.

ThePiePieper · 22分前

A: It's just bad journalism. Print and online media is already in a bad spot. But when you show your bias, Gamespot and IGN, not only does it look bad for the author, but it looks bad on the outlet.

B: It's gross that Metacritc doesn't do anything about it. It's bad enough that they have a weighted scale based on popularity, but then to not police obvious outliers. It hurts to think that people still just go here, see whatever number is slapped on a game and take it face value.

C: It's sad that people are still on the "love all PS and hate anything MS" bandwagon. Phil has been steering the ship in the right direction for years and all the fratboy, douchbags still act like the Xbox is some Chines strip mall knockoff.

I don't expect all MS games to get 10/10, that's just no possible, but when AngryBasementVigin dot com gives anything MS exclusive a 4/10, its just bad for everyone.

Mistward · 2時間前

Jesus christ, this circlejerk again? I swear, we get half a dozen of these posts a week.

Review sites give shitty reviews to well-received games and good reviews to poorly-received games so that their site will get views from people like you who just have to be outraged about something. It happens all the time, and has happened for basically as long as Internet reviews have been a thing. Do you know why I didn't know what Slant Magazine reviewed Gears 4? Because I don't give two shits what Slant Magazine reviews anything.

You can either go play Gears or Halo or Forza like a normal person, or you can make obnoxious posts on the Internet like all the dumbass Sony ponies you're complaining about (because news flash - both consoles have an equal amount of obnoxious fanboys). There's absolutely no reason to be outraged by this at all, you just want to be able to complain about something.

MrKaru · 2時間前

EDIT: Idiocy

Im_a_cat_yolo · 4時間前

I never gave a shit about reviews when they weren't bias. I still never give a shit about reviews now that they're bias.

It's working well for me. Other people should try it out sometime.

unholiestmuppet · 2時間前

I'm not sure I've seen any really blatant bias for either console from the respected reviewers out in the wild. Sure, you can visit Sony biased sites just like you can Xbox biased sites. They exist in equal numbers as far as I can tell. I've seen glowing reports for games that didn't deserve it on both consoles from these places but that's what they're there for. Most sites (Eurogamer being a prime example as it's my favorite gaming site) do not show bias at all.

What I have seen more than a few times are reviews from players downgrading a games score because they own the other console. It's a weird thing to do but it happens. Personally though I think the reviews from those people stick out like a sore thumb and are, I hope, instantly dismissed for what they are.

WildlifeAnalysis · 1時間前

I'm sorry guys, but this is all in your head. Professional game reviewers, especially with major publications, are not fanboys. It would be absurd for a grown adult who gets paid to know a lot about video games to be a fanboy. You guys don't know what you're talking about.

Why would a reviewer give a bad score to Recore because it's an Xbox exclusive? Reviewers know how hard people work on games, and they know how exclusivity business goes. They have many friends who work on games. They would never give a bad review because of a game's platform.

mad597 · 4時間前

Xbox exclusives get probably 5 points lower in scores just cause it's on the Xbox

poopadoopis · 3時間前

The hate for Microsoft is alive and well. That is for certain. Just visit neogaf some time, if you dare.

looney_jetman · 3時間前

This console generation the media seem to be anti-Xbox. Microsoft got off on the wrong foot, but in my opinion have done far more than Sony to correct that. Maybe I'm long in the tooth, but I remember when Xbox 360 was bringing HD gaming (720p mostly) at an affordable price, Sony's PR waded in a said it wasn't true HD unless it was 1080p. Many years later, we still aren't guaranteed 1080p/60fps on either of the current consoles - not that it matters to me personally.

Sony seem to be feeding the negativity towards Xbox. Sure if the PS4 can handle a higher resolution then great, but if the Xbox runs at a slightly lower resolution at a more stable framerate then it says that the Xbox hardware is probably better designed at a technical level or that its scaling technology is better implemented.

Anyway, I'm waffling, but yes, there seems to be a lot of negativity in the gaming press towards the Xbox.

xbvrst · 4時間前

I simply stopped caring for reviews, as I don't see a point in them and probably never will. Even with the phone I bought a couple of months ago, I couldn't stand these "reviews" and went to my local shop to try every device on my list.

I'll never waste time on scores or reviews and don't see the point in doing so. I'll rent the game or in case of an digital-only release, wait for a super low price to get the game.

eddieswiss · 3時間前

At this point, I only trust my friend's opinions about games. Even then, some of there opinions don't gel with me. It's all opinion based. My buddy HATED Mass Effect but I forced him to play through the first game and then he went on to play the sequels and it became one of his favourite franchises of the last generation.

Now, I usually just go in with my own opinions. Thank god for getting review codes.

RackZezac · 3時間前

I think it's better to look at the smaller sites that don't have those clickbait type reviews. They tend to be as honest and objective as a game review can be :)

UkaUkaa · 3時間前

Lol I dont even care about game reviews, Ign gamespot and angryjoeshows reviews they are all shit.. Like I like tom clanys the division and it got as an a score 5/10 6/10 from reviews.. but the game is actually good now.. just play the game if u like it, and dont mind reviewers of games are u an child or something..? come on grow up! U are playing the game and if u like it then u have a great time!

drippypeehole · 3時間前

I don't read the reviews anymore. Why? Because I'm more than qualified to do my own research. I've been playing games for 25 years so I have at least as much if not more experience than most "professional" reviewers. There's also so many options these days such as playing a free trial, watching gameplay videos, reading opinions of consumers on sites like this that make game reviews obsolete. I don't hate game reviewers and if they have a different opinion than me then great. That's the beauty of the free world. I just don't see the need for them anymore with so many other methods of obtaining information, many of which are arguably better.

AyKKon · 4時間前

Because 2013 and Microsoft didn't mix well unfortunately.

shaunhemp_bep · 2時間前

I see alot of "go along to get along" type of comments. There are a lot of review sites that use Clickbait titles and scores to generate views. They know the PS for community doubles the Xbox one community so why would they risk pissing off 10 million viewers (ps4) when they can piss off 5 million viewers (X1)? A lot of the PS for community is made up of negative EMO J RPG fans. On Xbox one there are hardly any J RPG's on Xbox one there are hardly any J RPG's and subsequently there are hardly any J RPG fans that have the X one. If you know a EMO JRPG fan you know they are mostly negative people. A lot of these new reviewer's are the same character types. If you know the Xbox one community you know that a lot of the jaded gamers have left from the 316 to go to the PS four. So even though it's frustrating that it seems like the PlayStation four gets the benefit of the doubt for more often than Xbox one. rest assures that it is artificial an engineered in my opinion. However we the people know when something is afoul. Our community is far more positive and far more concerned with just plain good and great games.
Yes PlayStation for communities have ruled the Internet. We don't because we in my opinion game for more and then we blog. Let them brag about sales that will never produce anything personally for them other than bragging rights.
I would much rather brag about a great game experience then bragging about how the company I chose is leading in sales.

Misery loves company and most of that community are toxic over privileged kids. If you don't believe me just go to some of their community sites or check out the comments and lame spot, IGN, kotaku, ect ect. The same joke that has now been going on three years is still going on and that his Xbox one doesn't sell however you can't blame them for spouting this type of rhetoric. It all goes back to their character. It makes them feel good and people generally do what feels good to them. I even sometimes visit the PlayStation for Reddit community. Hardly any giveaways hardly any genuine excitement. Just a bunch of Xbox bashing and overprivileged entitled opinions.

The Xbox one Reddit community may Display some of this behavior as well but it is not nearly as often as the other side

Yes there are PlayStation four games products and services that get fair criticism, however there are a lot of Xbox games products and services then get unfair criticism.

YoshiMaxUK · 3時間前

It's as simple as there being more PS4 owners than Xbox owners and them playing to the bigger market. Edge magazine are one of the worst offenders giving FH2 the same score as Driveclub which arrived broken beyond belief.

xone_br33 · 4時間前

Yes, I think is funny that some ppl thinks that there is no bias at all and it is just a matter of an opinion. They hide on subjectivity of a review to support bias. Reviews are also part objective u need to follow criteria to review something, gfx, story, gameplay, etc and u need to weight your parameters. And the complete lack or inconsistency of criteria or parameters on gaming midia is what bugs my mind.

Rzkkr · 2時間前

Clickbait, don't give them a click, you're only doing what they want.

Anyway, Metacritic is just a compiler of opinions, and not even all opinions. I count at least 6-7 Gears 4 reviews that gave the game a 9/10 or a 5/5 and they aren't factored into the Meta average, so take it with a grain of a salt

Gears 4 has an 84-85 On Meta right now. You know what else has an 84? Shadow of Mordor, and that's considered to be on the best games this entire gen, it's phenomenal weather it got a 70, an 80 or a 90

If you really need review scores to tell you how a good games then that's really sad.

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