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[–]126CK_1981 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

The best thing anyone can do is come to their own conclusions about the quality or lack thereof regarding any given game. Reviews [in magazines] held far more weight 20+ years ago when they were literally the only way of getting any kind of information on a game's finished product. Or you had to wait with the hope that either a friend bought it, or hope the local video rental store purchased the game. Otherwise so many titles were blind purchases especially in the NES days. Imagine being stuck with a pile of shit because you had no way of knowing if the game would be good or bad? With the advent of YouTube, there's far more ways to come to educated opinions on whether a game will meet whatever it is you're looking for in particular about it. Word of mouth tends to work for me just fine nowadays, and I can't recall the last time I put serious faith into a gaming media review.

[–]Evan8r 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember xplay, I believe it was? On TechTV. I felt like they were usually spot on with reviews because they actually played them and talked about the headaches.

[–]XXMAVR1KXX 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I use to pick my NES games by how cool the box art was.

Didnt always work out in my favor .....sad sad face

[–]leftturneyTurns 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Twitch is my go to now. Sometimes the fun doesn't translate in watching, however when you can see the game along with someone's reactions to the game it helps put it into perspective.

[–]screeling1 32ポイント33ポイント  (7子コメント)

Give a listen to the guy who does ACG on YouTube. His reviews are great. He has his own biases, but admits them, and accepts others may be different. His reviews last about 10-15 minutes. They're not scripted, but still well thought out.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AngryCentaurGaming/about

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

heard of this guy and everyone says the same about him, seems to be pretty legit

[–]kelvinrankin767 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also watch this guy he's very good

[–]The_Fauc 37ポイント38ポイント  (8子コメント)

GoW4: 84 Halo 5: 84 FH3: 91 FH2: 86 Ori: 88 Forza 6: 87 Titanfall: 86 Recore: 63 Rare Replay: 84

Uncharted 4: 93 Bloodborne: 92 LoU Remastered: 95 Driveclub: 71 NMS: 71

Where's this egregious bias? The only poorly reviewed major Xbox exclusive I could find was Recore which had a lot of issues and a boring late game after a super promising start. Cherry picking reviews from non major outlets is a futile strategy. GoW isn't going to suffer because a third rate outlet gave it a 5; same goes for other big exclusives.

[–]Cryptographer#teamchief 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think he's necessarily claiming that metacritic scores are a problem so much as if you look at individual reviewers there are those who have rather... Unique outlooks. Forza getting a 4/10 is... Difficult to believe. That's the score of a game that doesn't really function. I'm not saying it's a 8+ but when you run down a list of reviews that are consistent 9's then one guy gave it a 4. Doesn't that seem unusual?

[–]BeerMoneyLegend 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uncharted 4 got a 4/10 review. There is always going to be clickbait reviews that does not mean the media is against Microsoft or Sony.

[–]The_Fauc -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure but pointing out that there are a handful of questionable third rate game reviewers trying to get clicks isn't a representation of the major outlets and the consensus opinion on the game.

[–]UkaUkaa -5ポイント-4ポイント  (4子コメント)

ReCore deserved an 8/10 but they reviewed the game when the loading screens were not fixed.

[–]Bray4ever8 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Driveclub is at 71 because of the server launch issues and the weather patch wasn't available at launch. These types of issues fall squarely on the developer.

However I agree 100% w/ the OP. Metacritic needs to look at these reviewers who are creating clickbait reviews and remove them from the game they are reviewing. I get opinions are arbitrary, but if you are giving Uncharted 4 and Forza Horizon 3 a 4/10, when everyone else is giving it a 9 or 10, you shouldn't be the one reviewing the game in the first place.

[–]The_Fauc 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Recore does not deserve an 8/10 in my opinion. It is charming and plays well, but the grindy late game pacing takes away from the gravity of the story and the fun that the first half of the game provides. The loading times have improved but it is still buggy and has its quirks.

[–]divangreedy8 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

loading times are exist on bloodborne, so what the fuck that time is not an issue now become an issue ?? fallout 4 another example

[–]The_Fauc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where did I say anything about loading times not mattering for Bloodborne?

Recore didn't get bad reviews just because of loading times, there's a lot wrong with that game. Bloodborne is a fantastic game beginning to end and got dinged in reviews for loading times but otherwise was excellent.

Recore had loading time issues, rampant bugs, and the second half of the game is horribly paced and a slog. It has fun gameplay and it's good for the first 6ish hours, but drops off in quality after that.

[–]kingwroth 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems like you care too much about overall aggregated review scores, and nit individual reviews from reviewers you trust and like. It doesn't matter if one reviewer gave it a bad score, they can give it whatever they want. All that matters is how view it, whether you believe that review is important or not. Just follow a couple of reviewers you like and read their reviews.

[–]milero91 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

Reviews are opinions. I own both a PS4 and an Xbox and hold varying opinions on games on both platforms not based on bias. For example I tried Gears and thought it was terrible. That's my opinion.

You mention bias but then go on to talk about why gaming press hate on xbox and that it's clearly the console to own now...but I disagree. The playstation library IMO is more varied and has much better exclusive games both released and to be released (more indies, Uncharted 4, R&C, Bloodborne, Persona 5, Resogun, Journey). It sounds like you're just a bit paranoid to be honest.

[–]Number9dream68Xbox dfc -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

ive got both consoles as well, have to disagree about exclusives, forza horizon 3 on its own makes it worth owning an xbox, just my opinion, noticed you thought gears was terrible, is it that you dont like 3rd person shooters, i dont like bloodborne but would never call it terrible. There is some bias on sites, its human nature, i just think reviews this gen are all over the place, just bad writing, bad reasons for marking a game down. Comparing marks for nms and gears to confirm bias is a little bit silly though.

[–]milero91 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

FH3 is a beast of a game, one of the best games of the gen I reckon. 100% agree on that :)

I just found Gears clunky and the shooting didn't seem to have any weight behind it. If I actually had to review it, I'd give it more time than I did and try and construct some better opinions on it. To be honest I maybe don't discount that the occasional site might be "bias" to a degree, but I reject the idea that gaming media as a whole has some form of hatred towards the xbox.

[–]mtg_island 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It happens. Whether its bias based off of sponsorships or wanting to be a clickbait website or simply bias based off an individuals personal opinion is sometbing that we will never really no. Its always happened with reviews of anything and always will.

Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it. Your best way to counter not agreeing with that website is ignore it. Dont provide them with the traffic and ad revenue. And if you are passionate about a game just let people know. More people buy games off of word of mouth of friend reviews/gameplay stories than websites in my experience. I myself stopped looking at review scores around the same time xplay was taken off the air. I skim the review and look for the summary and pros snd cons and make my own judgement from that.

[–]mando44646 44ポイント45ポイント  (32子コメント)

Oh come on. Reviews are educated opinions, nothing more.

Reviewers tore No Man's Sky apart. And you think they are pro-Sony and biased against Microsoft? Grow up

[–]GUTIF#teamchief 13ポイント14ポイント  (12子コメント)

OPs not saying all reviewers are biased. If you honestly believe every single site out there reviewing is completely impartial, you're the naive one. There are site extremely partial to Xbox (Windows Central) and there are sites that aren't. compare slant and kill screens reviews for NMS and Gears and decide for yourself though.

[–]Cant_Aim_For_Shit 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

OPs not saying all reviewers are biased.

Just the ones that he disagrees with.

If OP doesn't agree with a certain reviewer, website or magazine, the answer would be to avoid it. It's a fundamental fact that many reviewers of all things - from cars to phones, consoles to makeup - will have their own personal and sometimes financially motivated bias that will manifest in the content of their reviews. And there will always be "fanboys" out there that follow a brand due to an emotional attachment or nostalgia. These people are what keep "biased" reviewers afloat. People LOVE positive affirmation. They want to hear that they made the right purchase, and just how shitty the competing brand is. That will never change.

I've been around long enough to switch from Sega to Nintendo, Sony to Microsoft, then back to Sony, then to PC, then back to Xbox. I've seen an equal amount of reviewer and owner bias on all sides. I've heard just as many people try to justify the Xbox 360 over the PS3 as I now see PS4 owners lauding their "superior" purchase over Xbox One owners. It's all swings and roundabouts.

If OP wants balanced reviews, he should avoid things like Metacritic, and instead find a YouTuber/website/publisher that gives all consoles balanced coverage, and aligns more to his personal tastes. Over the years as sites like IGN, Kotaku and Gamespot have shit the bed in quality, I've found my own personal favourite reviewers in websites like Eurogamer, Rock Paper Shotgun and TheAngryJoeShow.

TL;DR: Biased reviews are everywhere. People like to hear that they own the superior platform and enjoy the positive affirmation that they've made the right purchase. Xbox and Playstation communities are equally bad. Find a reviewer that enjoys game genres that you also enjoy, and also try to find a reviewer that publishes reviews on multiple platforms. Don't expect to get a solid review from "XboxGamerFanMagazine", or "SonyPonyIzDaBest.tv".

[–]Kim_Woo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point about Windows central. A lot of people will complain when a site scores a game low but they don't complain when the site is obviously rating a game way too high.

[–]mando44646 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

If you honestly believe every single site out there reviewing is completely impartial, you're the naive one.

did you even read my comment? "Reviews are educated opinions"

[–]GUTIF#teamchief -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

the fact that it's an opinion has nothing to do with my point...if you're opinion is negative towards any platform regardless of quality then you shouldn't be reviewing that product.

I don't like to eat fish but you don't see me writing reviews for fish based restaurants do you?

[–]mando44646 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're responding to my comment and tell me what the point of my comment is?

[–]GUTIF#teamchief 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Focus on the point. If someones opinion is that they don't like microsoft or whatever then that's fine. I don't like Apple products but if you like them good for you. But if that's your opinion, and you can't be impartial about it then you have no business reviewing aspects of something you don't like, unless you can manage to stay impartial about it. The point OP is making is that there are some reviewers who can't stay impartial despite their opinions. Especially when review scores ofr things like games are so significant for the bonuses dev's receive and the likelihood of high sales for a game that obviously deserves it.

[–]The_Fauc 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're assuming the people you're accusing of having biases hate Microsoft based on you assigning biases to them bc you don't agree with their reviews of the games you subjectively enjoy?

[–]greenw40 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

And if someone's low opinion of Sony/MS is affecting their reviews, it's called bias.

[–]SuperAleste -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're asking a gamer to grow up? Really?

[–]Rzkkr -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol most reviewers aren't educated, there was that bitch who gave Alpha Sapphire a lower score for having too much water, that idiot from Polygon with Doom and a chick from Gamespot who was so stupid that she couldn't figure out where the settings are on the Xbox One.

Most reviewers have the combined IQ of a walnut

[–]phantomdc4 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

The first mistake is giving credibility to, or basing a purchase on, an opinion someone is paid to have. Who cares about reviews? Play a beta, or a demo, or rent it first.

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hear you man I do and im with you, but most gamers are looking at reviews as bad as tht is.

[–]phantomdc4 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hopefully they'll learn from their mistakes and stop giving so much power to reviews.

[–]McleanODaxelman 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't believe anyone who calls themselves Redditsgamers.

Please, leave.

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (48子コメント)

Its not just reviewers i was in gamestop just last week and one of there employees straight up told me id never ever buy xbox, im like why man the xbox one s is great, his exact response was "fuck xbox, im sony for life". i just rolled my eyes and walked out, what a shitty close minded person.

[–]xbvrst 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I will never understand, why people are so loyal to a company or brand. It actually shows how good the PR works in how it emotionally attaches people to a product or brand name.

I don't care if it's Xbox or Playstation, Windows or OSX, Android or iOS, Meat or Vegetables. If I like it and it works well, I'll consider buying it.

[–]The_Real_Kuji 27ポイント28ポイント  (7子コメント)

When I worked there for a temp job to help out the manager, a kid, probably 10 or 11, was buying an X1 with his mom there (this was just after launch) and trading in a PS4 for it. Another customer, who was at least 35, walked up and openly said, "big fucking mistake, kid. Worst choice you'll ever make."

This 10/11 year old was more mature than this 35 year old. He looked at the guy and said, "I don't care about exclusives. My friend's all got Xbox's and play on them, so I'm switching to play with my friends. It's more fun with people you know. I also know the Xbox Community because I had a 360, and I like it better than people on the PS4. There's no reason for me not to switch."

Kid turned back, mom gave a nice "fuck you" grin to the guy, guy tried to, "psh, whatever kid" and when looked at us and said, "are you guys really gonna let him make this mistake?"

I wasn't right there, but I overheard, my buddy helping out said, "Clearly he has good reasons for switching. It's his choice. If those were my reasons, I'd switch consoles, too."

Shut the guy down on all fronts. It was glorious to see a kid more mature about consoles than the grown man who is almost at a mid-life crisis.

[–]packageofcrips 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

And then everyone in the store started cheering and clapping

[–]FieldySnutzX1Xbox 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

And the guy walks out of the store and gets hit by a bus.

[–]WhatCouldBeBetter 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

That bus's name? Albert Einstein.

[–]packageofcrips 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That Albert Einstein's name? Steve Buscemi did 9/11.

[–]The_Real_Kuji -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sadly, no. Not that cool of a store.

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

haha that is awesome, what a pathetic man.

[–]A_Fhaol_BhigThe Inheritance of Sin And Shame 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is fucking pathetic how you do not realize you are exactly the same as that Sony fanboy.

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

your reading comprehension skills are whats pathetic here, go read a book idiot.

[–]OMCawd 3ポイント4ポイント  (28子コメント)

Me: Hey dad, I got the new Xbox One S. Do you want my old one so we can play some games together?

Dad: Nah. I don't play Xbox

Me: But why? It has a lot of great games I know you'd like.

Dad: You know I only play Playstation. Xbox sucks.

Me: But you've never had an Xbox, how do you know? Just take my old one, you'll really like it.

Dad: Nah.

I kid you not, this was an actual conversation between my dad and me. I know it's a little bit different from what that employee said to you, but these are the kinds of people that help give gaming a bad name; blindly hating on a console, game, etc, and not even having an open mind so that they can just play video games. You know, I totally understand if you can't afford both consoles, or if you have either one and really love it, but being so ignorant really frustrates me sometimes

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

i saw you post this yesterday i think, are you older than your dad? you sound more mature lol.

[–]OMCawd 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Lmao no. I'm a gamer. I love video games, I'm going to school for video games. So naturally, I keep an open mind on mostly all games, consoles, etc. My dad is really arrogant, and usually comes to me when he wants to buy something related to video games. I love my dad, I remember playingredients every CoD up until AW with him. But he's just so close minded when it comes to video games, it's ridiculous. I'm going to get Gears 4 in a couple hours though, hopefully that'll persuade him to hook up the other XB1 and play co-op with me

[–]skatinbrad2 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not to shit your bed, but don't go to school for gaming. Go to school for something loosely related, like programming or networking etc. because down the line, just like me, you'll change your mind about that. Even if you don't, you want to ensure you'll have a good fallback in case you can't find a company to work for or can't fund an indie title.

Go for one of those, do gaming on the side or do it full time but know you'll have the comfort of a fallback. entry level game design positions are scarce and competitive

[–]OMCawd 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm in computer science with a focus in video game design, so my school makes you learn a few programming languages, makes you take a couple engineering classes, but lets you take specialty classes for video games. I have about a little more than a year left, I can't wait to finish. But yeah, my degree will actually be in comp sci, it's just that my focus area will be video games. I guess they do that to keep students interested, help them become more proficient in their field, etc. So if by some chance I can't get a job in the gaming industry, I'll already have a few programming languages and some engineering under my belt

[–]skatinbrad2 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good! There are uni's like Full Sail that pitch these game design majors and it almost always leads to a struggle to find a job

[–]EvilMag [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Almost sounds like my Dad. My Dad is a huge apple fanboy and getting him to use windows is a pain in the ass.

[–]DA3DALUSxGAMERThe Baconadian -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, I had no idea people could say that. That's disrespect to the customers, and he should be fired for that.

[–]GUTIF#teamchief 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

if a gamestop employee says that to you you need to report it to gamestops customer service. That's ridiculous.

[–]One_Half_Hamster 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Basically trying to lose a sale. Pretty stupid honestly, why should the employee care what system he is playing on?

[–]toekneegDarqStalker -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those are the type of people I wish I could just punch in the face for being so ignorant.

[–]PurifiedVenomA Jedi Sage -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well your first problem is that you were in a GameStop.

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

true lol i was at mall with my gf what else was i gonna do

[–]Benreineck123im darth vaderr 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is going to sound cheesy but if you buy the product and like it that's all that matters. It doesn't matter if the reviews suck or not

[–]atomicpenguintrooper 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know why people trust websites like they're singular entities, its the individual reviewers you should be looking for and finding a few you like and tend to align on (for example, I really like Simon Miller and Jim Sterling - and I know when I'll disagree with their conclusions).

If you constantly find yourself at odds with these websites and companies, chances are you'd be much better served simply not bothering to look at them. There bias, or simple different view point to mine hardly affects my own enjoyment of these games.

[–]PixelBanditsPBSF Pendragon 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I do game reviews etc. and try to be as impartial as possible. There are some games I've completely lost my shit over, rocket league, trackmania and a couple of others getting super high scored, and things like NHL or tour casey powel lacrosse getting quite "low" scores.

At the end of the day of course I have to go by just an opinion of the game, and the opinion is going to be different for different folks (I loved The final Station but know another review who got bored with is very quickly).

When people close their minds though and just say "well I haven't liked XXX games in the past so I won't like this" or the console bias is just incredible. I've never understood people like that

what probably helps in our case is that we don't use clickbait just as a matter of ******* moral integrity... lol

[–]Number9dream68Xbox dfc 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

been meaning to pick up final station, loved the atmosphere in the trial, so now i know you like quirky indies with an end of the world vibe i would value your opinion on that type of game, i like knowing what marks a reviewer has given to other games so i can judge if were alike in our tastes, sometimes a review on its own doesnt tell the full story.

[–]PixelBanditsPBSF Pendragon -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just review whatever I'm given. It's hard for me to not enjoy a game at all (same with movies actually). Latest ones are for Everspace, Vermintide, Fifa 17, Final Station, NHL and Madden. - http://Pixelbandits.org

Sadly, my tastes are... eclectic... Elite Dangerous, The Final Station, Fifa... enjoying them all...

[–]LegionaryprimeLegionaryprime 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a multi console owner that owns an Xbox one, ps4, and Wii u., and is primarily an xbox guy. I'm just tired of all this console war bs among reviewers and forums.

Some reviewers definitely are biased. I definitely believe that. I'll go as far and say some may be paid by Sony. It's not out of the realm of possibilities.

I just hate the so glad 'war' between the fans. Its just pointless to me

Same with the marvel vs dc war. Dc got the short end of the stick this year but critics gave shit like Thor 2 a pass? I give up.

I stopped caring about reviews years ago and Batman vs superman was the final nail on the coffin on them for me

[–]Catch_42 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reviews are an opinion.

Not everyone will have the same opinion as you.

Just because a review doesn't match the wider consensus, or your opinion, doesn't mean it's clickbait.

So yes, reviews are biased. That's the point.

[–]FlameCats 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes me sad the rampant fanboyism nowadays, hating on games just because theyre Nintendo Sony or Xbox, if you hate a game thats cool but dont just overlook it because of the company- you miss out on so many amazing games.

Bloodborne is one of the greatest games this generation, alonhside Ori and the Blind Forest, dont get me started on how fucking awesome Mario Kart is.

[–]skatinbrad2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Experiences are subjective, some will be addicted and fall in love with a game, some will hate it. I like negative reviews because often they point out flaws

[–]Gruntmaster720 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some sites are definitely biased and use a lot of clickbait but its not exclusively against xbox games, some site gave uncharted 4 a 4/10. So i agree that this happens a lot but i disagree thats its only against xbox.

[–]TanFlo1997SpreadTanTheMan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

PSA: Stop giving support to sites like Kotaku, IGN, GameInformer, etc. AdBlock their sites or simply, don't watch their YouTube channels. Hit em where it hurts, their pockets.

[–]retrovertigo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As somebody who has reviewed games in the past for multiple gaming sites, I can say that sometimes the wrong person gets the game. Generally, you don't want the person who dislikes certain genres to review new games of that genre, especially ones that may generate a lot of interest (like holiday blockbusters). However, sometimes a gaming site can generate a lot of hits, by posting flame-bait articles. Sure, this could generate a lot of page views in a short amount of time, but it could also backfire and risk becoming an unreliable source or get "blacklisted" by gamers.

It could be that the person did have some genuine issues or complaints. Or, in the instance of a PC gaming review, perhaps there were crashes or issues running the game, or their video card isn't supported, or their PC, in general, just isn't capable of running the game at it's optimum settings, that can turn a well-reviewed game by others into a low score by this particular site.

What I recommend is not taking the 10/10 reviews for face-value, and don't entertain the lowest scores, either. Read a variety of reviews, find out what they like, and what they don't like. If there seems to be common complaints or praises, then those points might be valid.

I would also recommend watching video reviews as well as people playing the game on Twitch or Google Gaming (is that still a thing?).

If the reviews and the video clips you've watch seem to be enticing, then maybe the game is for you. My two cents.

[–]Sanders67#teamchief [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Lets put things back into perspective here, Sony is selling loads of units and creating hype around its console.

In other words, 3 out of 5 players own a PS4, if you own a website and want to make money with clicks and advertisement you're better off not throwing bags of piss at the majority ... get where I'm going with this?

Yeah, sure .. it's been biased since launch because the press is siding with the winner.

I know a few people who write articles and reviews for well known websites, and they have directives and a specific posture to adopt.

Long story short : don't piss off Sony fanbase, they generate a lot of money.

Hitting on Microsoft gives them the boner? Well go on, make that click count go up.

I've been sitting in that chair in the past fighting for every click you can get, I know what it's like and I know why they're going what they're doing.

Not even going to mention all the consoles, peripherals, tickets, hotel nights being offered by Sony to the press in general to make them lean their way even more.

A friend of mine was offered a PS4 + hotel night + dinner + movies and a load of games just for attending a Playstation meeting.

You can call it bribery or whatever you want, Sony is smart enough to pass this as "presents" without making it suspicious.

What's funny is that Major Nelson was accused of bribery when he invited Tyler Malka to assist at the E3 conference ... that same dude who accepts loads of shit from Sony without saying a word.

Yes, the industry is clearly biased, in every form and every way.

And I'm convinced websites like Eurogamer are on Sony's paycheck (people have been suspicious since 2005 : http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/a_e32005reactionnotbias ).

But understand one thing : it goes both ways.

When Microsoft will be dominating again, the press will be kissing their ass as well.

Players are arrogant, the market is very unstable and all you need is a wrong step to lose it all.

Let it be, there is nothing you can do about it.

Take reviews for what they are : opinions.

[–]xooxanthellae [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

IGN gave Devil's Third a 3.5 without even playing online at all, even though it was already common knowledge that the online multiplayer was the core of the game. They just straight up admitted in their review that they didn't play online.

So, yes, other consoles get some unfair reviews too.

[–]Loopernator 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I bet you're the kind of kid who also thinks movie reviewers are bias against DC and pro Marvel

[–]PurifiedVenomA Jedi Sage 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't really say there's a bias. I liked Recore a lot but it had a ton of problems. Knack, The Order and NMS have all be torn apart by critics regardless of being PS exclusives.

[–]The_Holy_BisonLord Salad Bear 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was reading an article about crossplatform play the other day, and even though MS has been HUGE on pushing for it, the article made it seem as if MS was the hold out and not Sony.

[–]GUTIF#teamchief 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree it's pretty undeniable at this point. Slant Magazine and Kill Screen both rated No Man's Sky a 90 and 87 respectively and Gears 4 50 and 68 respectively.

Nothing anyone says about opinons, etc. That's bias flat out.

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves or another platform fanboy

[–]teddy1590 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The best way to deal with shitty, contrarian click-bait reviews is just to ignore them. Talking about them leads to people checking out their site, which gives them page clicks and ad revenue - exactly what they want.

Who cares if a crappy review knocks a game down a point on metacritic. It shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the game.

[–]EgoDogg#teamchief 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everybody is going to have different opinions on the game. The important thing is that a fan of the genre is reviewing that particular game. If somebody that only likes Shooters is reviewing a game like Forza, that review will likely suffer. On larger sites such as Gamespot, that shouldn't occur. However, smaller sites with only a few reviewers may not match the popular opinion just because the person reviewing it is not a fan of that genre.

Source: I run a website with only 2 different reviewers, and one's favorite genre is JRPG's. When she reviews a game such a Rocket League, there's a lot of collab that needs to be done during the process to keep bias out of it.

[–]Shrimp_my_Ride 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reviews are just opinions. It's best to read around until you find a few reviewers that you tend to agree with and utilize them.

[–]iHeartCandicePattonMBIIdollabill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Game "journalism" as a whole is just utter garbage. Not necessarily only when talking about the Xbox.

[–]Mephb0t 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reviews are just opinions. Every review is biased.

[–]th3groveman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most reviews are actually inflated. Gaming communities often views anything under an 8 as to be "unplayable garbage". So what happens is that a review at 7, the community explodes with negativity and the review which was probably saying "this is a good game with some issues, but it's still worth playing" ends up seeming like panning the game.

Most people seem to read reviews just for validation of their own preconceived biases and expectations. People pre-order everything anyway so reviews are rarely used for what they should be - helping to make a purchase decision.

[–]mobin_amanzaiEz Trickkz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I personally never look at reviews for anything (movies, tech, games, etc), I like to form my own opinion on things and do my own research. Why would you consider buying something of what someone else says?

[–]AT0MIC_ASH 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I watched a mighty no 9 review with someone completley trash talking the game . After i had watched it i read the video description where he said " if you have a problem with my review , feel free to send me money so I can purchase the game and actually play it to look more into its flaws. " . I know it was just some guy on YouTube but I found the review very easy by just searching mighty no 9 in google and this seems to be becoming more and more the attitude of game reviews recently. Wtf is wrong with people. Stuff like this is somewhat of a cancer on the gaming community. Just spreading hate on the game off pure hear say .

[–]JudgeJBSjbs5869 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's because ms propped up polygon and tried to destroy most of the smaller reviewing sites but edging them out.

With that said, game reviewers are mostly worthless and you're better off just watching gameplay and deciding on your own if you want to try it out

[–]avi6274 -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

That's because Playstation's exclusives blow xbox's one out of the water. The amount of care and polish that goes into all of their games are incredible.

I have almost never seen anyone dislike or at least not appreciate Bloodborne, The Last of Us, Journey etc. That is more than I can say for Microsoft's games (except forza and early Halo titles).

[–]Mistward 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

That's because Playstation's exclusives blow xbox's one out of the water.

I trust you mean that as your opinion and not like a fact. I've been trying to convince myself to get a PS4 and just can't do it. The only thing even remotely interesting to me is Uncharted 4, which I would absolutely love to play, but I can't justify $400 to play one game. I found the Last of Us to be completely underwhelming (great story, but the gameplay just wasn't anything special), Bloodborne has never been my kind of game and when I do want to play something like that for a little bit the Souls games are plenty, and really that's about it. I don't like JRPGs, so that's a huge chunk of the PS4's draw as well. I was excited for NMS and The Order and those both turned out to be shitshows, so Uncharted and possibly that exclusive Spider-Man game they've got in the pipe are about all that interest me.

Meanwhile, I've been playing Halo since I was a kid and Sony doesn't have a shooter that can even come close to comparison, Gears is a really great addition to that, the Tomb Raider games have been able to scratch my Uncharted itch very well, and Forza is far and away the best realistic (meaning not Mario Kart) racing experience you can get right now.

My point is, neither console is objectively better, so the OP of this thread arguing with everybody that Xbox games are somehow objectively superior is just dumb. Play what you like, end of discussion. I don't get why there has to be this animosity because people like different games.

[–]FartHog69 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

You realize these are completely arbitrary right? That there's no objective way to measure how fun a toy is? It seems to me you're upset that people have different opinions than you.

[–]Evan8r 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

That actually is nowhere near what I took from his post.

[–]FartHog69 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

What do you mean? His entire post is that not all reviewers agree on how fun games are. The implication is that their opinions are incorrect

[–]we_come_at_night -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

He even stated that, like the guy who gives NMS 9/10 and Gears 4/10. I mean it's obvious he's not into 3PS, so why even review it then? I agree to some extent that low reviews suck, but if you ask me, if you don't like a certain types of games you shouldn't be reviewing them, cause you'll not do a great job. Some games deserve the praise, some deserve the shitstorm, but none deserve to be reviewed by someone who doesn't like playing the genre to which the game belongs.

[–]FartHog69 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Again, it seems to me the problem is you don't like conflicting opinions

[–]we_come_at_night [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nope, I don't care about any of those and I generally don't read reviews as they're way to biased for my liking. Also, my personal taste is mine alone, I'm not willing to share it with the world just because I can. But the problem that I stated is a real one, and it's way more influencing than it should be. I mean, all that a reviewer can do it give his/her own personal opinion on the game. If he doesn't like the genre he will not like the game, that's obvious, that's where editors should step in and do some research on his writers, not stick his head up his ass and give some shooter to a platform guy. The problem does exist, whether you admit it or not.

[–]BtripsXbox 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree 100%. Some review sites are simply giving out low scores for clickbait and it seems to happen more for Xbox than PS. Anyone that denies this is living in a fantasy world.

[–]elzeusTitanfall 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Phil Spencer recently called this out too. I put his remarks on this subreddit and the mods locked it after it reached the #1 spot.

[–]didnt_check_source 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Media bias is and will always be a thing, and it's arguably necessary for reviews. If you just want to know if you'll like a game or not, the best thing you can do is find a reviewer who has the same biases as you.

[–]Lymiss<3 Andy <3 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is the reason why I stopped reading and listening to these mainstream reviewers. I only read customer reviews now and even then I take what some of them say with a pound of salt. People need to do their research about the games they want before they buy. Know the studio, know the publisher and know what is expected from this game.

[–]Evan8r -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

And above all, if there is a demo, play that first!

[–]AArkham#teamchief 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree with you in a way. Reviews coming from certain sources raise an eyebrow. For example, Gears and Halo 5 had respectable scores, but CoD will come out this year and score nearly perfect from larger media outlets and the reasons GoW or Halo were counted off will be praised (too familiar, changing too much, etc). At the end of the day reviewing games is a business and many will give a favorable or unfavorable review that suits their interests.

[–]UkaUkaa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was a big problem when division came out , they were thinking it was like call of duty.. but it is an rpg shooter game like all tom clany splinter cell games.. so they gave it an 5/10 when a game releases Like DOOM which is an pretty good game imo they give it an 9/10 because the gameplay looks similar like call of duty with multiplayer.

[–]TadgerOTThe Original Master Chef 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some reviews do seem a tad sinister, but the problem is how do you measure someones aptitude of gaming vs bias.

Its an opinion, and even though some of these journalists might be jesus when it comes to the writing of witty sentences, it doesn't necessarily mean they can play games like him.

I mean we have all seen the reviewers slagging a game off, then witnessed the corresponding gameplay video... and thought to ourselves - "What the f.. How can someone be so shite AND review games?".

Thats the thing though, its a job.

I've worked with people in the IT industry that either hated IT or just kinda fell into it. They never really wanted it, it just kinda happened or they followed the money. They were competent, but there was no real passion there, like watching a chef do the washing up.

Sometimes, I get the same vibe from certain reviewers.

[–]Point4skapnt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Grounds for removal of your reviewing power?" What the hell? People are entitled to their own opinions and bias, even if they're shitty ones. Reviews are not intended to be objective, or rather if you treat them that way you are a fool.

[–]ThePiePieperSunset Overdrive [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A: It's just bad journalism. Print and online media is already in a bad spot. But when you show your bias, Gamespot and IGN, not only does it look bad for the author, but it looks bad on the outlet.

B: It's gross that Metacritc doesn't do anything about it. It's bad enough that they have a weighted scale based on popularity, but then to not police obvious outliers. It hurts to think that people still just go here, see whatever number is slapped on a game and take it face value.

C: It's sad that people are still on the "love all PS and hate anything MS" bandwagon. Phil has been steering the ship in the right direction for years and all the fratboy, douchbags still act like the Xbox is some Chines strip mall knockoff.

I don't expect all MS games to get 10/10, that's just no possible, but when AngryBasementVigin dot com gives anything MS exclusive a 4/10, its just bad for everyone.

[–]Mistward -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus christ, this circlejerk again? I swear, we get half a dozen of these posts a week.

Review sites give shitty reviews to well-received games and good reviews to poorly-received games so that their site will get views from people like you who just have to be outraged about something. It happens all the time, and has happened for basically as long as Internet reviews have been a thing. Do you know why I didn't know what Slant Magazine reviewed Gears 4? Because I don't give two shits what Slant Magazine reviews anything.

You can either go play Gears or Halo or Forza like a normal person, or you can make obnoxious posts on the Internet like all the dumbass Sony ponies you're complaining about (because news flash - both consoles have an equal amount of obnoxious fanboys). There's absolutely no reason to be outraged by this at all, you just want to be able to complain about something.

[–]MrKaruMoonbear X04 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

EDIT: Idiocy

[–]darthpiroDarthpiro -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So, you are justifying a low score/review from the XBOX ONE VERSION of the game, because of an issue with the PC VERSION. Am I reading correctly?

Completely GENIUS.

[–]MrKaruMoonbear X04 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I concede. I misread the OP and assumed the grievance was about giving newly cross-platform games lower scores because of the Xbox brand. My mistake.

[–]Im_a_cat_yoloGlor -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I never gave a shit about reviews when they weren't bias. I still never give a shit about reviews now that they're bias.

It's working well for me. Other people should try it out sometime.

[–]A_Fhaol_BhigThe Inheritance of Sin And Shame 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When where reviews ever not biased?

Give me one example.

[–]unholiestmuppet -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure I've seen any really blatant bias for either console from the respected reviewers out in the wild. Sure, you can visit Sony biased sites just like you can Xbox biased sites. They exist in equal numbers as far as I can tell. I've seen glowing reports for games that didn't deserve it on both consoles from these places but that's what they're there for. Most sites (Eurogamer being a prime example as it's my favorite gaming site) do not show bias at all.

What I have seen more than a few times are reviews from players downgrading a games score because they own the other console. It's a weird thing to do but it happens. Personally though I think the reviews from those people stick out like a sore thumb and are, I hope, instantly dismissed for what they are.

[–]WildlifeAnalysis -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry guys, but this is all in your head. Professional game reviewers, especially with major publications, are not fanboys. It would be absurd for a grown adult who gets paid to know a lot about video games to be a fanboy. You guys don't know what you're talking about.

Why would a reviewer give a bad score to Recore because it's an Xbox exclusive? Reviewers know how hard people work on games, and they know how exclusivity business goes. They have many friends who work on games. They would never give a bad review because of a game's platform.

[–]poopadoopis -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The hate for Microsoft is alive and well. That is for certain. Just visit neogaf some time, if you dare.

[–]looney_jetman -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This console generation the media seem to be anti-Xbox. Microsoft got off on the wrong foot, but in my opinion have done far more than Sony to correct that. Maybe I'm long in the tooth, but I remember when Xbox 360 was bringing HD gaming (720p mostly) at an affordable price, Sony's PR waded in a said it wasn't true HD unless it was 1080p. Many years later, we still aren't guaranteed 1080p/60fps on either of the current consoles - not that it matters to me personally.

Sony seem to be feeding the negativity towards Xbox. Sure if the PS4 can handle a higher resolution then great, but if the Xbox runs at a slightly lower resolution at a more stable framerate then it says that the Xbox hardware is probably better designed at a technical level or that its scaling technology is better implemented.

Anyway, I'm waffling, but yes, there seems to be a lot of negativity in the gaming press towards the Xbox.

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

and ANYONE saying otherwise is blind or in denial its simple

[–]xbvrst -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I simply stopped caring for reviews, as I don't see a point in them and probably never will. Even with the phone I bought a couple of months ago, I couldn't stand these "reviews" and went to my local shop to try every device on my list.

I'll never waste time on scores or reviews and don't see the point in doing so. I'll rent the game or in case of an digital-only release, wait for a super low price to get the game.

[–]eddieswissGT: Eddie Swiss -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

At this point, I only trust my friend's opinions about games. Even then, some of there opinions don't gel with me. It's all opinion based. My buddy HATED Mass Effect but I forced him to play through the first game and then he went on to play the sequels and it became one of his favourite franchises of the last generation.

Now, I usually just go in with my own opinions. Thank god for getting review codes.

[–]RackZezac -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's better to look at the smaller sites that don't have those clickbait type reviews. They tend to be as honest and objective as a game review can be :)

[–]UkaUkaa -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol I dont even care about game reviews, Ign gamespot and angryjoeshows reviews they are all shit.. Like I like tom clanys the division and it got as an a score 5/10 6/10 from reviews.. but the game is actually good now.. just play the game if u like it, and dont mind reviewers of games are u an child or something..? come on grow up! U are playing the game and if u like it then u have a great time!

[–]drippypeehole -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't read the reviews anymore. Why? Because I'm more than qualified to do my own research. I've been playing games for 25 years so I have at least as much if not more experience than most "professional" reviewers. There's also so many options these days such as playing a free trial, watching gameplay videos, reading opinions of consumers on sites like this that make game reviews obsolete. I don't hate game reviewers and if they have a different opinion than me then great. That's the beauty of the free world. I just don't see the need for them anymore with so many other methods of obtaining information, many of which are arguably better.

[–]AyKKonLPGL AyKKon -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because 2013 and Microsoft didn't mix well unfortunately.

[–]RedditsgamersSwole Spartan[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

that was 3 years ago though

[–]shaunhemp_bepXbox -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see alot of "go along to get along" type of comments. There are a lot of review sites that use Clickbait titles and scores to generate views. They know the PS for community doubles the Xbox one community so why would they risk pissing off 10 million viewers (ps4) when they can piss off 5 million viewers (X1)? A lot of the PS for community is made up of negative EMO J RPG fans. On Xbox one there are hardly any J RPG's on Xbox one there are hardly any J RPG's and subsequently there are hardly any J RPG fans that have the X one. If you know a EMO JRPG fan you know they are mostly negative people. A lot of these new reviewer's are the same character types. If you know the Xbox one community you know that a lot of the jaded gamers have left from the 316 to go to the PS four. So even though it's frustrating that it seems like the PlayStation four gets the benefit of the doubt for more often than Xbox one. rest assures that it is artificial an engineered in my opinion. However we the people know when something is afoul. Our community is far more positive and far more concerned with just plain good and great games.
Yes PlayStation for communities have ruled the Internet. We don't because we in my opinion game for more and then we blog. Let them brag about sales that will never produce anything personally for them other than bragging rights.
I would much rather brag about a great game experience then bragging about how the company I chose is leading in sales.

Misery loves company and most of that community are toxic over privileged kids. If you don't believe me just go to some of their community sites or check out the comments and lame spot, IGN, kotaku, ect ect. The same joke that has now been going on three years is still going on and that his Xbox one doesn't sell however you can't blame them for spouting this type of rhetoric. It all goes back to their character. It makes them feel good and people generally do what feels good to them. I even sometimes visit the PlayStation for Reddit community. Hardly any giveaways hardly any genuine excitement. Just a bunch of Xbox bashing and overprivileged entitled opinions.

The Xbox one Reddit community may Display some of this behavior as well but it is not nearly as often as the other side

Yes there are PlayStation four games products and services that get fair criticism, however there are a lot of Xbox games products and services then get unfair criticism.

[–]YoshiMaxUKYoshiMax -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's as simple as there being more PS4 owners than Xbox owners and them playing to the bigger market. Edge magazine are one of the worst offenders giving FH2 the same score as Driveclub which arrived broken beyond belief.

[–]Rzkkr -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Clickbait, don't give them a click, you're only doing what they want.

Anyway, Metacritic is just a compiler of opinions, and not even all opinions. I count at least 6-7 Gears 4 reviews that gave the game a 9/10 or a 5/5 and they aren't factored into the Meta average, so take it with a grain of a salt

Gears 4 has an 84-85 On Meta right now. You know what else has an 84? Shadow of Mordor, and that's considered to be on the best games this entire gen, it's phenomenal weather it got a 70, an 80 or a 90

If you really need review scores to tell you how a good games then that's really sad.