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Yesterday, Newsweek‘s Kurt Eichenwald explained how stupid Vladimir Putin is. Eichenwald had spotted a Sputnik (Russian propaganda) story on the latest pathetic Wikileaks dump with a SMOKING GUN! Clinton pal Sidney Blumenthal had said in an email,

“Clinton was in charge of the State Department, and it failed to protect U.S. personnel at an American consulate in Libya. If the GOP wants to raise that as a talking point against her, it is legitimate.”

According to Sputnik, this was “putting to rest the Democratic Party talking point that the investigation into Clinton’s management of the State Department at the time of the attack was nothing more than a partisan witch hunt.”

But had Sidney Blumenthal said that? (And even if he had, is random guy Sidney Blumenthal in charge of determining what does and doesn’t put to rest charges of partisan witch hunts? And does anybody actually care what the hell Sidney Blumenthal says?) Well. No. They were two sentences from a 10,000-word article, by Eichenwald, that Blumenthal had forwarded.

(The very same thing happened in a tweet Fox Business anchor Maria Bartiromo retweeted and then quickly deleted; Hillary Clinton did not call anyone a “sand n***er.” She had asked to have printed out a newspaper article about a Palestinian man murdered by Israeli cops. That story included a fictionalized account of what was going through the cops’ head, and the author inserted the slur for them, which seems like a reasonable inference as they kicked the man — who had just been released from the hospital — and left him out in the desert, in his hospital gown and without food or water, to die. If forwarding a quote was Hillary Clinton calling people “sand n***ers,” then by that logic Maria Bartiromo was too.)

Now that we’re all caught up on the context: Who was repeating the charge in Pennsylvania — a charge that had appeared nowhere else but in this Sputnik story — which, once Eichenwald pointed out how stupid it was, had been quickly deleted?

At a rally in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, Trump spoke while holding a document in his hand. He told the assembled crowd that it was an email from Blumenthal, whom he called “sleazy Sidney.”

“This just came out a little while ago,’’ Trump said. “I have to tell you this.” And then he read the words from my article.

“He’s now admitting they could have done something about Benghazi,’’ Trump said, dropping the document to the floor. “This just came out a little while ago.”

But where had it “just came out,” Donald Trump? In Sputnik, the Russian propaganda vehicle founded by Putin. And how did it get slipped to Trump so very quickly, just hours after it was published?

Hell, half Trump’s advisers seem to be on the Kremlin’s payroll, so who knows? Whoever it is, Donald Trump is getting his disinformation straight from the Motherland.

Guess when Putin forwarded Trump his copy, he forgot to let him know he’d already DQed it — not for being wrong, but for getting caught out.

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  • spends2much

    I can’t take much more of this guy. I wonder if my local hospital can put me into a coma until November 9th. I do live in Canada, with the free health care Trumpy thinks is a disaster (it’s not. Not even close).

  • Msgr_Trump_has_killed_satire

    Horror show. Now he’ll have to find new droogs.

    • The Wanderer

      Go down to the Moloko and have some milk-plus.

      • deadjello

        And put on some Ludwig van…….

        • The Wanderer

          Or a bit of viddy for some of the old in-out, in-out.

  • (((JustPixelz)))

    For Trump, everyone is believable with the following exceptions:
    – people who say mean things about Trump
    – Barack Obama’s birth certificate

    • Jamoche

      One more: The balance sheets on his casinos.

      • TheoLib

        In the debate, when Hillary said her name appeared on 400 Senate bills, I wish she had added, “The only things I’ve seen your name on, Donald, are your failed casinos.” Oh well, a lost opportunity.

  • bubbuhh

    I bet Putin did tell Trump that the email was a load of BS but Trump wasn’t paying attention cuz busy little fingers

  • The Wanderer
    • theCryptofishist

      Still has hands bigger than Trump.

      • The Wanderer

        I award you an internet.

        • theCryptofishist

          AW. Thanks.

  • memzilla

    “I vas chust vollowink orders vrom Vearless Leader!” — anonymous Trump spokesman
    .
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/868e76e5c70a070275884009e2da601e2ac7f21ec52d6331b8cfe2156591a201.jpg

  • Duke

    Why do the Russians want Trump to be president?

    Or are they so super- clever that they really want Hillary but a weakened Hillary?

    • memzilla

      Drumpf has told NATO nations he won’t automatically come to their defense, and wants to cooperate with Russia in Syria, which would result in their keeping their only naval base in the Mediterranean, among other things.

    • Stulexington

      At a guess, so he can pay back the money he owes them. I suspect he owes some people that don’t accept typical bankruptcy procedures. Or use votes to get their money back.

    • Lizzietish81

      To be a puppet

    • AJ Milne

      It’s _both_, either, I think. They’ll take whichever.

      Russian disinfo recently has mostly just been aimed at sowing chaos, weakening democracies, fostering doubt, cynicism, suspicion toward the institutions. If they can’t get a guy in that will make the US an international pariah, isolated, and shamed, they’ll settle for aggravating any existing dysfunction. Note how they’ve propped up ubernationalists of various stripes in Europe. Anyone who’ll break up existing treaties and foster discord will suit their purposes.

      Cracked had a nice thing on the general flavour of the nonsense they’ll kick out through RT. The larger shape of it, I think, is just: create nonsense, create chaos. A confused, divided competitor or opponent is the best kind.

  • Nounverb911

    Also in the meantime: Putin announced he’s cancelling his campaign events with Trump.

    https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/785629891467378688

    • OddMan

      Andy Borowitz is one of the unsung heros of political satire.

  • Crystalclear12

    Is it over yet?
    Gawd, please can this just end?

    • The Wanderer

      Twenty-eight more days of this. Even I, who look upon politics as a combination of street theater and blood sport, am tiring of it.

    • Nounverb911

      It all just starts again on November 9th when they all announce their candidacies for president…

      • Crystalclear12

        That’s just a mean thing to say. True but mean.

    • BosGrlMEOW

      I was sitting around last night, getting ready to launch myself off the couch and go to bed, when I suddenly started to tear up. I cannot take this anymore, with half the country wanting to go back to Jim Crow and instead of lynching, we’ll just shoot first and ask questions later; and nasty, hateful rhetoric; and “lock her up”; I’m just done. I’m trying to keep it together but I’m not sure I can.

      • theCryptofishist

        Okay, just ignore the news for the next few weeks. You already know enough, you don’t have to know it all. Do something good for yourself. Whatever is good for BosGrls. And, cut down on your visits here–snark is wonderful–but also destructive.

        • BosGrlMEOW

          <3 thanks

      • Oily Messiah

        BLM is the real hateful rhetoric. She needs to be in jail.

        • BosGrlMEOW

          She who?

          • The Wanderer

            Betty Lou Masterson?

      • in the name of the moon

        come on out to colorado, I’ll buy us weed, we can hide in the mountains for a month. my fam has this cabin with no tv. Of course, it also has no running water and is cold af after oct but details.

        • BosGrlMEOW

          Hey, cold is fine, I’m from New England :D

  • bubbuhh

    You ride Putin’s horse. You get caught up in its shit if you don’t pay attention.

  • JVisconti

    Calling BS here. Borscht Shit.

  • Msgr_Trump_has_killed_satire

    FWIW, even Sputnik thinks you lost the second debate, Donnie.
    https://sputniknews.com/us/201610111046224690-clinton-trump-second-debate/

  • Indiepalin

    Putin mighty leader. Putin eat raw grizzly bear for breakfast. Putin Russian for pussy.

    • Snark Tank of Deplorables

      I thought Putin was that Canadidian thing with French fries, cheese curds and gravy…

      • LesBontemps

        No, but equally vile.

    • Msgr_Trump_has_killed_satire

      Donnie shouldn’t be putin his small fingers where they don’t belong.
      I’ll show myself out.

    • The Wanderer

      Putin should be called Pizda, or ‘cunt.’

  • Oblios_Cap

    In Russia, the e-mail forwards you!

    • LesBontemps

      Never gets old.

  • Vincent Ricola

    Treason
    noun
    the crime of betraying one’s country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.

    Just sayin.

    • The Wanderer

      And there are laws on the books forbidding political candidates from receiving aid from foreign governments, as I recall.

      • theCryptofishist

        Don’t say things like that. Now I’m having incredible fantasies of Trump, after losing the election, ending up in hot water, including trails, for all the illegal shit that’s been pulled.

        • Oily Messiah

          Maybe Clinton will appoint a special prose… oh wait, she respects the constitution and the rule of law

          • Arolpin

            Maybe the Republicans will (from their minority position) beg and plead with the Majority Democrats to start an investigation. The Democrats will ignore it publicly, but will have back-channel conversation where they will agree to allow a vote, but only if the Rs vote first, and if a MAJORITY of the Rs vote yes, then just enough Democrats from safe districts will vote for it.
            It will be the only way that the Rs can reclaim some semblance of wanting to actually do something beyond obstruct and destroy.

        • theCryptofishist

          I could correct “trials”, but whatever.

    • data_ninja

      Yes, but treason charges can only be applied during a time of war.

      Time of war. Treason by aiding the enemy can’t be
      committed during peacetime; there must be an actual enemy for the
      traitor to aid. The requisite enemy designation typically requires a
      formal declaration of war.

      The Rosenbergs were executed for Espionage, not treason, as it is often confused with.

      (Sorry, I just learned this bit of information not that long ago, so I’m
      using every opportunity I can to show it. Makes me look smrt)

      • Vincent Ricola

        Can we change the rules to include declared twitter wars?

        • data_ninja

          I am actually still waiting for cyber warfare to get on the books in one form or another. Stuxnet is considered one of the first cyber weapons ever developed, although no one is still owning up to it. Also too, that wasn’t the first time software was rigged to cause real world damage.

          P.S. I hate the word ‘cyber’, except when discussing the Transformers home world, but it’s the term used in the media to describe these things.

      • Shibusa

        It’s October, so the annual War on Christmas is about to begin.

    • Crank Tango

      It doesn’t count if you use the second amendment.

  • TeeRaak

    Mr Trump, are you on Putin’s payroll or are you working for the KGB on commission?
    http://www.freelance-writing-services.co.uk/freelance_writer.gif

    • Bub the Leftwing Zombie

      In either case, they are disgusted at your complete ineptitude and want their money back.

      • theCryptofishist

        They are probably running him as some sort of cover for the actual political mole.

  • John Iwaniszek

    tl;dr

  • OddMan

    OT
    My brain is a bit fuzzy, we did not discuss this tidbit concerning Ms. Clinton did we?
    Trump Ally Alex Jones: “I Was Told By People Around” Clinton That “She’s Demon-Possessed”
    Jones: “High Up” People Tell Me “Obama And Hillary Both Smell Like Sulfur”

    https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/10/10/trump-ally-alex-jones-i-was-told-people-around-clinton-shes-demon-possessed/213712
    So now the RWN’ers have blown pass the Hillary is evil directly to Hillary is possessed by demons and smells of sulfur and has flies. (PS also Mr. President Obama)

    • Vagendadentacohontas

      Demons were yesterday, today is Tuesday, so back to bengaziiii!

  • bubbuhh

    Hillary gotz a message from a different camp to also

    https://youtu.be/67Z8A2Jo4Wg

  • memzilla
    • The Wanderer

      Another Wikileaks nothingburger, probably.

    • The Wanderer

      Wait a tick. Does this mean that he himself has conceded that Clinton will win?

  • Oblios_Cap

    When Trump loses, Putin will bend him over and show him what all that “Vlad the Impaler” stuff was all about.

  • Mary Sandoras
    • theCryptofishist

      *stares*

    • The Wanderer

      Wow, we really are in the Mirror Universe, aren’t we? Time was the Dems used to be like herding cats and the GOP marched in lockstep.

      • Mary Sandoras

        I’m sure this will go over well with republican congress critters and what will it take for Priebus to throw him under the bus?

    • Bub the Leftwing Zombie

      This thing is as over as fuck. No way in HELL they win this election. The only questions remaining are how big the margin of victory will be and how many down ballot Rethugs are taken out in the bloodbath.

      • Vincent Ricola

        AOTK!!!

      • TundraGrifter

        Don’t tell yourself that. Far too many victories are lost late in the game. Over confidence is not our friend right through here.

        Don’t falter at the alter.

        Look at great teams like Michael’s Chicago Bulls or Steph’s Golden State Warriors – when you got the other guys down with your feet on their necks you don’t let up. You put them away.

      • Major_Major_Major

        Please remember that we, as a party, excel at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

    • Mary Sandoras

      Sorry Evan, I didn’t know you had already covered this until I backtracked on your article.

  • AngryKatie

    I’m having a hard time snarking about the escalating willingness of Americans of all stripes to immediately believe whatever random, unsourced, dubious bullshit they hear, so long as it confirms their bias.

    Democracy isn’t possible under those conditions.

    • anna rampage

      Call me morbidly pessimistic, but that’s what our country was founded on from the get go… We’re good, brown people, and those who don’t subscribe to our beliefs are mostly bad…

      While it seems like a huge chasm between the progressives and the regressives, it’s really not all that huge of a difference, even though it seems it…

      • AngryKatie

        It’s the speed, the virtual communities, and the lack of mutually agreeable reference points that are different.

        You can’t have 30% of the population immune to facts and mutually reinforcing nonsense until it’s equal to facts.

        • Dudleydidwrong

          Listen carefully and you can hear Alexander Hamilton laughing. “Your people, sir, are a damn’d mob!” (Allegedly said to Jefferson.) Well, at least 30% anyway.

          • AngryKatie

            That’s kind of the crux of it.
            The structures that were put in place to check the mob are broken.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      You mean to tell me that Sid Vicious really is dead and not living in the Ecuadoran embassy in London under an assumed name?

      • AngryKatie

        Oh, no, that’s true. Elvis really is totally dead though. Allegedly.

    • btwbfdimho

      It’s one of the biggest issues, IMHO. We’re flooded with a tsunami of BS circulating at the speed of light thru the information superhiway. Thanks, Al Gore.
      We can’t have more than 24hr/day, we’re very busy, and our brains are unable to filter meaning from noise.
      Worse, the new millennials are already wired to receive instant gratification and entertainment all the time, so we can’t expect more than just Trumpests in the future.

      • btwbfdimho
      • AngryKatie

        On and off Sunday night Journalists were reporting that Pence looked to be leaving the ticket because “we’ve seen several tweets.”

        Even the people who are supposed to be trained to sift through and find what’s real are willing to buy into things anonymous strangers yell into the void because they WANTED that to be true.

  • anna rampage

    Things must be getting tough for Trump these days, as not only is Scott Baio on the talking head circuit, but they’ve sent out Stephen Baldwin & Louie Gormert too…

    • TundraGrifter

      Ah – The Lesser Baldwin Gambit! It is, indeed, not the end of the beginning but the beginning of the end.

  • Nounverb911
  • Lizzietish81

    Damn, he makes Senator Iselin look like a qualified statesman

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5xpNBs-km0

    • Vincent Ricola

      Trump 2016: The Orangchurian Candidate.

      • Creepoman

        On special at Panda Express.

      • Lark_in_the_AM

        The Mandarinchurian Candidate.

  • goonemeritus

    After Trump loses I hope Putin sets him up with a really nice Dacha to spend his golden years.

    • Shoto

      I hope Putin sends his kleptocrat, KGB goons to repo the jet.

  • chascates

    I smell a rat. A big, fat Commie rat.

    • The Wanderer

      With bad hair and a tiny mushroom cap for man-tackle?

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Bet you a Buck you’re right.

  • Taco Treg

    Let’s look at the chances of winning back the senate.

    ( Five Thirty Eight, 2 hours ago)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/febc98cb8b4f5092561d74912019ca2a0a415c2081b62be11e1e34f5f8026d25.jpg

  • TundraGrifter

    I stole this awhile ago, but it’s still true. Some days you just get the feeling Chump has never before run for public office.

    • The Wanderer

      Quelle surprise!

  • Juan de Fuca

    Is Sydney Blumenthal the new Art Vandelay? Has anybody ever met this guy or at least seen him in the past 20 years?

    • The Wanderer

      Is he Lieutenant Kije, or Captain Tuttle?

    • TundraGrifter

      He’s the new George Soros or Saul Alinsky. A name to toss out there because the speaker can’t frame a coherent thought.

      • Joe Beese

        I wonder what Blumenthal, Soros, and Alinsky have in common?

        Hmm…

        • The Wanderer

          Do they have the protocols down pat?

          • Joe Beese

            They gave me a copy of the Protocols in Hebrew school when I was studying for my bar mitzvah but I misplaced it somewhere along the line.

          • The Wanderer

            (tsk) You naughty person.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            I’m sure someone from the America First campaign can send you a copy.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Parentheses?

        • DerrickWildcat

          Well, their names sure ain’t American.

        • TundraGrifter

          Successful white men who couldn’t stand Donald J. Chump?

          Are they all from Chicago?

          Obama read all their books?

          I give up…

        • Arolpin

          But Blumenthal is more obviously (((different))).

          (Edited to conform to convention.)

    • Michael Smith

      “Vandelay Industries. I’m an importer / exporter.”

  • Crank Tango

    October Derprise.

    • The Wanderer

      There’s still three weeks to go.

      • Crank Tango

        Really?

      • Doug Langley

        I can’t take that many surprises.

  • Carpe Vagenda
    • Nounverb911

      And replace him with who, Bill Clinton?

    • bubbuhh

      NBC management R pissbucket peeple.

      Also too Idjisms.

      • Nounverb911

        COMCAST! A division of Putin Enterprises.

    • Cheesus Crust

      So who was going to be the sacrificial lamb? Or was Trump going to be talking to himself…

      • SuspectedDemocrat

        Trump surrounds himself with smart, capable sacrificial lambs. Also buses.

    • Vincent Ricola

      LOL Billy Bush. Your nepotistic douchebro career is over and no1curr. Maybe Jeb! can find work for you on his home maintenance crew.

    • Anna Elizabeth
      • SuspectedDemocrat

        Awwww… is he having trouble enjoying his favorite steak now too?

        • Anna Elizabeth

          Oh, I know. I’ve been hammering NBC with emails and Tweets since Friday. It’s absolutely disgusting to me.

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      A 34 year old, grown-ass man at the time. Only in the Bush family is perpetual adolescence seen as a positive attribute.

    • Yr. Gma

      Where did I put that violin?

    • Shibusa

      NBC can start to make up for that by releasing the raw footage from The Apprentice.

  • bubbuhh

    Jill Duggar and Derick Dillard Prepare For End of Days, Post Selfies For God

    Quoth Derick on Instagram: “I love having a front-row seat to just get a
    glimpse of how God is going to fulfill Revelation 7:9.”

    http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/10/jill-duggar-and-derick-dillard-prepare-for-end-of-days-post-self/

    • limberrat

      OMG a woman president is the last sign to the end of days! How could I not see it before!!!

      • Dudleydidwrong

        Yes! Yes! I remember reading somewhere that things come to a screeching halt when the “whore of Benghazi” appears. Gonna be a hot time in old Dugger Bugger town tonight.

      • Yr. Gma

        Well, duh.

    • DerrickWildcat

      The Rapture Index is at 188. Which ties an all time high.
      http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html

      • Oily Messiah

        The Rapture Index is a lot like the Terror threat level during the Bush administration, completely made up and not all indicative of anything actually going to happen.

        • Mr. Blobfish Unchained

          Can I keep the rapture out by duct-taping plastic over my windows?

          • Oily Messiah

            Depends, I hear God can’t rapture you through lead, or that may be superman…

          • keenanjay

            Like He would take anyone on Wonkette. Pfft.

          • YoBunnyBunny

            Hey, ya never know. We’re probably better company than the god-botherers who are just jizzing their under-roos for the Rapture.

          • Doug Langley

            I believe you have to smear the blood of a virgin over your door. Of course, where we could possibly find a virgin on this site goodness only knows.

      • data_ninja

        Is this tied to the Dow Jones Industrial, or just the Bob Jones University?

      • bubbuhh

        😵😝😸🍻

      • Rags

        This just in ….. Reports are that 144,000 people have suddenly vanished from the face of the earth. Spokesmen for the Jehovah’s Witnesses expressed surprise that all of them were Syrian refugee children.

    • The Wanderer

      So . . . the Duggars are Jehovah’s Witnesses all of a sudden?

    • Swampay

      Man it would be awesome if I could write down my dreams when I am (allegedly) all potted up on the weed and sell that sort of volume. Instead of 4 horsemen of the apocalypse we’d have beams of golden light connecting us all and regular visits from Obama, Bruce Springsteen, Helen Mirren, and Jimi Hendrix.

  • Michael Smith

    You know who else made secret deals with Russia?

    • Nounverb911

      The guy that bought Alaska?

    • Me not sure

      Pepski Cola?

    • Pretty much any Bond villain?

    • Anna Elizabeth

      Clancy hero Jack Ryan?

      • Nounverb911

        The Alec Baldwin one or the Harrison Ford one?

        • therblig

          ben affleck/chris pine/jim from the office libelz!!

        • Anna Elizabeth

          Both! XD

    • Vincent Ricola

      Emmett Fitz-Hume and Austin Millbarge?

    • Cheesus Crust

      Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods?

    • theCryptofishist

      The germans and their trains of pinnepeds?

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      Sarah Palin, when she and Putin had a dispute over that privacy fence in her yard?

    • therblig

      Sgt Preston of the You Con?

    • JustDon’tSayPu55y

      Yugoslavia? (remember them?)

      • Lizzietish81

        I’m actually reading a book about Eastern Europe right now, have gotten to the WWII stage

        • Anna Elizabeth

          Which book are you reading?

          • Lizzietish81

            Eastern Europe!: Everything You Need to Know About the History (and More) of a Region that Shaped Our World and Still Does by Tomek E. Jankowski

          • Anna Elizabeth

            Cool, thank you. :) I’ll add that to the wish list, I’m fascinated by all of that, back to before Napoleon.

          • revenant

            you have read Rebecca West’s “Black Lamb, Grey Falcon”?

            (a book i push on every remotely appropriate occasion, because if i could have only one, that would be it)

          • Anna Elizabeth

            I have not, and thank you. :) Book recommendations are beyond welcome. :)

            *off to update wishlist*

    • DensityDestiny
    • AnOuthouse

      Ronald Raygun?

  • Nounverb911

    Semi sort-of but not really off topic:
    https://twitter.com/guardian/status/785868765883957248

    • The Wanderer

      But we’re still an exceptional nation.

    • therblig

      i’m sure we rank low on Calculus and Algebra as well. sigh.

  • Cheesus Crust

    Great – now I actually have to figure out who Sidney Blumenthal is. Thanks, Editrix – now I have to learn on a Tuesday. *grumble*

  • Lefty Frizzell

    Poor Chuck Norris has nothing to look forward to but another 996 years of darkness.

    • Joe Beese

      When Chuck Norris looks into the abyss, the abyss runs away screaming.

    • Doug Langley

      At least his Total Gym still loves him.

  • limberrat
    • boyblue122

      He thinks the Nat’l Enquirer is Pulitzer Prize worthy

      • Nounverb911

        It’s the ONLY paper in the country that’s endorsed him.

        • DesertedPictures

          They have? The space under ‘newspaper endorsments on wikipedia is still blanc. I mean, I suppose they are pro-trump, but have they actually printed their endorsment yet?

        • AngryKatie

          It’s weird that his son in law’s paper hasn’t endorsed him.

    • Blackest Noobs

      like how is that anything new? Trump makes up shit on a daily basis…shit his entire 1st and 2nd debate points were made up.

    • DesertedPictures

      So: at one time the founding fathers put a ‘natural born’ requirement into the constitution to prevent a foreign prince from taking over. It seems to me, that that aint a fooproof system.

  • Blackest Noobs

    Trump says we pay the highest taxes, and it woke up Norway saying what the fuck is this moron saying?

  • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

    Is anyone else kind of loving the historical irony of right-wing Americans being accused of colluding with the Russians for a change?

    • Oily Messiah

      Yes, but I wish we wouldn’t ride the horse so hard. Not everything bad is because of Russia.

      • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

        Oh I know, I just love that after 50 years of baseless accusations, witch hunts and show trials, the only documented instance of political collaboration with the Russians has come from… Republicans.

        • Carpe Vagenda

          Well, yeah. The russian people weren’t given a chance to make a new world for themselves. We privileged fossil fuel-humping kleptocrats, and now they have the same repressive state back with right-wing religion instead of communism.

          • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

            Errrhh. I think that takes away the agency of the Russians themselves; we didn’t, and don’t, have much pull in Russia, and even if we had tried the Russians are a prickly people who resent outside interference. Russia regressed into dictatorship largely by itself, and they’ll have to own that.

          • Carpe Vagenda

            but I remember people were begging us to support democratic movement and it not happening because we have a long history of finding kleptocrats easier to work with.

          • Dr. Rrrrrobotnik

            Yeah, but that doesn’t mean that was a good idea/would have helped. Vlad’s biggest de-legitimizing angle of attack is to claim that his opponents are influenced by meddling Western powers, and unfortunately one of the defining Russian national characteristics is xenophobic paranoia. Greater involvement by us would probably just have led to greater estrangement and a faster backslide.

      • Anna Elizabeth

        Agreed. But after my being called a “Commie” because I was complimentary to WW2 Russian soldiers that were fighting Nazis, it’s delicious to see the RWNJs in this situation.

    • Shibusa
  • Yr. Gma

    Readings is hard.

  • FauxAntocles

    Perhaps the Trump campaign is composing the emails and sending them to Russia to “leak”, Hmmm?

  • I’d like to hope that the intelligence community assumes that any classified material they give to Trump is likely to end up in the hands of the Russians and take appropriate action to throw in enough bullshit in those briefings that they’re no longer reliable.

  • fawkedifiknow

    Sputnik News? What, is Pravda or Izvetsia not obvious enough for the Rusekies?

    • therblig

      sputnik gets more laikas

      • Rags

        And Trump is a Ham….

    • Bitter Scribe

      Coming next: Gulag Today

      • mancityfooty

        I thought that was the morning show.

    • Doug Langley

      I thought Sputnik was something that sent out meaningless signals and then burns up?

  • Spotts1701

    Speaking of loudmouths with a loose relationship with the facts, Maine Gov. Paul LePage decided to get on the radio and say that he’s okay with Donald Trump being an authoritarian because he’s LePage’s kind of authoritarian (rather than that “autocrat” Obama).

    • Oily Messiah

      1984 called and would like its doublethink back.

  • limberrat
    • Shantastic

      That’s just too perfect.

  • I’ve got half a mind to vote trump just to show those RWNJ how crazy their candidate really is. Short of him actually rounding up the “darkies”, I don’t know if there is anything that can be done to save them. But then again, I’ve always fantasized about living in a fascist country – not having to think for myself anymore is pretty appealing…

    • Ghenghis McCann

      All you need to vote Trump is half a mind. (Boom, tish.)

  • (((parkii)))

    Um, I just have to say that the story about Omar Jebreen being dumped out of an Israeli hospital has absolutely ZERO evidence of being true. Israeli hospitals treat thousands of Palestinians (usually at no cost whatsoever) and they even provide the transportation, not to mention all the Syrians they secretly sneak into their hospitals to treat for free and then return to the border in the middle of the night so that they don’t get punished back home for having normalized relations with Israel. None of these people have ever been dumped into the desert in their hospital gowns (to DIE, no less!), they are given free transportation back to their homes. There are even several non-profit Israeli groups that do nothing but provide free transportation to and from hospitals in Israel for medical treatment. They even treat Palestinian terrorists who have just attempted (or even succeeded) in murdering Israelis, and they don’t dump them TO DIE in the desert afterward, smh. You can find tons of firsthand accounts online of Palestinian people being pleasantly surprised that they were the recipients of such great care. When your family member is dying and only your “enemy” can save them, most people decide not to let their family member die. That story is straight up fake anti-Israel propaganda.

    • Oily Messiah

      Great healthcare really makes up for living under apartheid. At least they’ll stitch you up after they shell your school.

      • (((parkii)))

        They aren’t living under apartheid, and you do a disservice to actual victims of apartheid by saying such a thing. They don’t shell schools unless terrorists are launching rockets from them, which they make a habit of doing. Omar Jebreen is from Gaza, and in case you hadn’t noticed, all the Israelis living in Gaza were kicked out over a decade ago, and it has been completely ruled by a terrorist organization, not by Israel.

        • They don’t shell schools… that should have been the end of that sentence.

          • JustDon’tSayPu55y

            yup.

          • Oily Messiah

            “The U.N. Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), which operated the school-turned-shelter in the Jabalya refugee camp, said it had gathered evidence, analyzed bomb fragments and examined craters after the attack. Its initial assessment was that three Israeli artillery shells hit the school where 3,300 people had sought refuge.”

          • (((parkii)))

            Oh, yes, let’s talk about UNRWA, whose schools teach Palestinian children that someday the land will be theirs “from the river to the sea.” (Hint, that means ALL of Israel, free of every last Jew, despite Jews being indigenous to the land). It is well documented by just about EVERYONE that Hamas uses Palestinian people as human shields, they regularly launch rockets from schools, hospitals, even playgrounds. You need to do a lot more research on the issue if you seriously believe that Israel is the big bad bully and Hamas are the good guys, smh.

          • Lark_in_the_AM

            Israel has the power in this area, not Hamas. It’s a war crime to shell schools and hospitals. Choose other targets if they must retaliate.

          • Oily Messiah

            Hamas are the good guys? Whoever said that? Oh… no-one. Hamas are terrorists and Israel still shouldn’t use that to justify committing war crimes against the Palestinian people. Or is this one of those all Muslims, I mean Palestinians, are terrorists things.

          • (((parkii)))

            No, of course all Palestinians are not terrorists, there are a large number of them who want nothing more than to live in peace next to their neighbors, and they are denied that because of the terrorist organization that governs them, not because Israel doesn’t want peace.

          • Oily Messiah

            Yea, not all Palestinians are terrorists, but they deserve to get their asses shelled because a terrorist organization has a stranglehold on the government.

          • (((parkii)))

            Oh, I see, they’re supposed to just let their citizens get rained on. Do you have any idea how many rockets have been shot into Israel from Gaza, just this year alone?

        • Oily Messiah

          You probably think BDS is anti-Semitic too.

          • (((parkii)))

            Yep, you got me. Much of it is. But even more importantly, it has harmed Palestinian citizens. Hundreds of Palestinians have lost good paying jobs due to BDS, because BDS isn’t about helping the Palestinian people (which they desperately need thanks to Hamas and Fatah), it is about attempting to destroy Israel. I don’t think that a lot of people who support it are anti-Semitic, and I doubt many of them have the first clue about its origins, but in general, yes, it’s nothing more than manipulation of people’s good intentions for all the wrong reasons.

      • The news that we should be talking about is how for the past 2 weeks Israel has been bombing/shelling again in the Gaza strip.

        • (((parkii)))

          Seriously? They shot rockets into Israel. What did you think they would do?

          • Lark_in_the_AM

            How about – TRY PEACE. And by that, I mean Israel keeps it promises about an independent state for Palestinians, recognize that the colonized the West Bank illegally and close the settlements as anyone without the Israel First, Last, and Always blinders on has been saying for years. I guarantee that there will be a lot fewer mortars if Israel approaches a peace process in good faith and gives the Palestinians a reason to believe that they are.

          • (((parkii)))

            Oh you mean like offering several peace deals that would have given them almost every single square inch of land they wanted, and being turned down every single time? Like that? Every single peace deal that Israel has offered was turned down, and there have been many. They’ve turned down statehood three times just in recent history. Abbas even admitted that he turned down the best possible chance that there was for both sides to feel like they got what they wanted. http://www.timesofisrael.com/abbas-admits-he-rejected-2008-peace-offer-from-olmert/

          • Lark_in_the_AM

            The reason every single “peace” deal has been turned down is because it is a non-negotiable condition that Israel gain complete control of Jerusalem and make it their capital. So, yes, I can see why they turn them down. As far as I am concerned, the grown-up thing to do would be to share control of a city that is of major importance to three religions, but that is NOT what Israel will allow. Israel is as much in the wrong here as the Palestinians, and both need to compromise, but neither is willing to do that. Take Jerusalem off the table and leave it as it is.

          • (((parkii)))

            He turned it down because he couldn’t touch the map. He said it himself. How “mature” is that? Jews are not allowed to go to the holiest site in the history of the religion. The site that Islamic colonizers razed to build their own holy site on top of. Not. Allowed. There are actual rules about how many STEPS a Jew can take on the Temple Mount. Israel has no such restrictions for anyone within the land that is in their control.

          • Arolpin

            As much as I would like to believe that, I can’t. The Arab-Israeli peace accords would have done that, but Arafat refused to say yes. Sadly, he was a lot more willing to negotiate than the current Palestinian leadership. (Yes, you can make the argument that the leadership they have is because they’ve been on a war-footing for 70 years, but it doesn’t discount the fact that there isn’t anyone on the Palestinian side who would sign off on any type of negotiated accord.)
            The current government of Israel is doing itself no favors, and is being hijacked/run by similar RWNJs as we have in the US, and because of that, there are no reasons for the Palestinians to negotiate in good faith, but I doubt it would change much with a leftist Israeli government.

          • Oily Messiah

            Respond with proportionate force instead of committing war crimes? Rocket attacks do not give you a license to indiscriminately shell civilians. Who said Israel’s force was disproportionate? Bernie Sanders, the US State Dept, the UN. Plus strong evidence of war crimes from Amnesty International

          • (((parkii)))

            Ohhhhhhh, Bernie Sanders says so! He also said that the casualties from Protective Edge was 10+ times Hamas’ very own, already inflated self reported number. I guess if you believe that, it would seem disproportionate! Look, I’m not saying they’re perfect, I’m not saying they’ve never made any mistakes, but they absolutely do not make a habit of indiscriminately shelling civilians, that’s ridiculous. In fact, they have historically taken more extreme measures to avoid civilian casualties than just about anyone else, which is something that lots of important people and agencies also say about them. Like, lots. Amnesty International and the UN have proven themselves to be extremely anti-Israel, and you could even say DISPROPORTIONATELY so, since they spend so much energy on the only free democracy in the whole region yet ignore the absolutely blatant human rights violations of most of the countries they’re surrounded by, so that isn’t really a great talking point. If they had actually committed war crimes, they’d be charged as such by now, especially considering how desperately hard certain agencies are trying to find a way to bring them down.

          • Oily Messiah

            Maybe the groups dedicated to protecting human rights across the globe wouldn’t be so critical of Israel if Israel wasn’t regularly violating human rights. I’m done with your AIPAC/Likud talking points now, have a good day.

          • (((parkii)))

            Not AIPAC, just someone who has done LOTS of actual research and realized that the hard regressive left tea party is just as good at bullshit and propaganda and fear mongering as the one on the right. Check out Bassem Eid if you want to hear it straight from a Palestinian Human Rights activist rather than a Jew.

          • keenanjay

            Glad we’ve had this talk.

          • keenanjay

            Yeah, the rockets suck but they are being fired by Hamas, not the women and children of Gaza.
            Israel intentionally destroyed non-military buildings in Gaza just before the planned ceasefire simply as revenge and to raise the cost of rebuilding after the ceasefire. That was a seriously dick move.
            When you wantonly destroy civilian facilities out of revenge and not military necessity, you have committed war crimes.
            I sympathize with Israel’s situation, but as Lark says, how about being the more mature party and live up to your obligations and stop the settlement on land you don’t own.
            BTW, those rockets, those not intercepted and destroyed, seldom do any harm. Israel suffers very few casualties compared to the Palestinians when retaliation comes.

          • (((parkii)))

            I guess if you don’t think it’s harmful that Israelis who live in the south have to raise their children to run to shelters within 30 seconds whenever those endless sirens go off again and again and again, then sure, I guess endless rockets raining down on you is “seldom” harmful. They suffer fewer casualties because they use their concrete to build shelters for citizens rather than building new terror tunnels and using citizens as human shields for the resulting maximum PR. (You don’t have to listen to me about the concrete, it comes straight from Gazans that Hamas has taken just about every last bag of concrete that was meant to rebuild homes to use for miles of tunnels for their soldiers, leaving their people to fend for themselves.) Israel’s obligation is to try to find peace deals that will benefit everyone, and every single one of them has been turned down. Abbas even says he turned down a deal that would’ve given him everything he wanted. It’s time to stop infantilizing the people who were the actual colonizers of the indigenous people of the land, and hold them to an equal standard, with an equal obligation to engage in a peaceful solution. One side wants to find that peace, one side continues to attack. It’s absolutely ridiculous to say that the obligation is Israel’s and to call THEM the immature ones. Mature is offering peace agreements, mature is negotiating peace agreements, mature is accepting peace agreements. Who has to be “more mature” in this scenario? They say they want statehood, but then turn it down, again and again. Not very mature.

          • keenanjay

            You’re ranting now. I respect your passion for Israel, but you are decidedly partisan and lay out your views accordingly.
            Small point, I never called the Israelis the immature party. I said they should be the mature party, as in rise above.
            BTW, condemning Hamas is easy. Justifying the torment of civilians under their control is not as easy.

          • (((parkii)))

            I didn’t used to be “decidedly partisan.” I used to buy the false equivalency too. I desperately want the Palestinian people to be free of the control of terrorist organizations, and to have a chance to live in peace with their neighbors. I desperately want normalization with Israel to be the prevailing sentiment, which it will never be with their current “leadership” and which regressive leftists in the US and elsewhere are fighting tooth and nail against. The mature party is the one who actually wants to find a peaceful solution, and the evidence is overwhelming that the PA doesn’t really want that. It didn’t take me long once I delved into the history and started looking harder at the conflict to realize how manufactured and ridiculous the current prevailing narrative among the anti-Israel crowd is, and yes, I’m quite passionate about attempting to correct it.

  • JustDon’tSayPu55y

    Someone needs to put up some of the comments from NPR’s Mac Stiponovich (sic?) interview. “If the party (meaning GOP) needs to wander in the desert for 10 years or so, then let’s wander.”

  • limberrat
    • Oily Messiah

      #familyvalues

    • beavertank

      I bet he only ever hits his wife and kids when they really deserve it, and he wishes they didn’t make him… but…

      • beavertank

        I would also bet that he regularly thinks (even if he doesn’t say) that it’s not fair that black people get to use the n-word while he can’t.

    • chortlingdingo

      I’m always shocked to see how many women support Trump. It’s completely baffling.

      • keenanjay

        Sadly, there are women assholes too. I ran into one yesterday who defended Trump on his comments about women. She said she knew lots of women who said things just as coarse. I replied that she should be a little choosier about her friends. It went right over her head as she refused to let it go.

        • YoBunnyBunny

          She said she knew lots of women who said things just as coarse.

          I guess that’s the disconnect. They think it’s just something he “said” that was offensive. The outrage is what he said he’s entitled to do–sexually assault random women. Yes, I’m sure we all know women who say coarse things, but I’m also pretty sure those same women don’t go around snatching other women’s snatches.

          • keenanjay

            Would require a self-awareness not in evidence.

          • GHERKINS OF TRUTH!

            Odd, you’d think this email about Hillary supposedly saying “sand n-words” would then not be any big deal to them, right?

            Because some other people say worse words! QEDerp

      • SullivanSt

        I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that 100% of them actually support him. Some number are likely there in fear of what their husbands / SOs would do if they didn’t attend. It seems like that kind of crowd.

    • Vincent Ricola

      KKKlassy

    • alwayspunkindrublic

      Waiting for NPR to do a sympathetic story about how he part of a growing contingent of unfortunate white men left behind by an increasingly diverse, educated, and technological society.

      • pstockholm

        I’m waiting for the story how he’s getting left behind by his wife who finally has had enough.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        and how liberalism has abandoned the working class, who are defined for convenience as white guys with blue collar jobs.

    • Bub the Leftwing Zombie

      That is NOT a happy looking crowd…

      • AngryKatie

        I feel like that really is their whole deal. They’re miserable people looking for scapegoats for their misery.

        Trump has been more than happy to oblige.

        • Dee Andee

          That, and they know as well as he does that they’re all a bunch of LOSERS!

    • bubbuhh

      Who was he referencing? His wife?

    • YoBunnyBunny

      Gee, what lofty political rhetoric…

    • Dee Andee

      Oh look! A room full of whiney-ass titty babies, all sucking lemons! Classy crowd, I’m telling you!

      • SullivanSt

        Misread as “whitey-ass”, which also works.

  • Hairstrike Alpha

    I love that picture, it will never stop being funny

  • Mavenmaven

    I hear Blumenthal actually wrote Hillary’s book, with the help of William Ayres.

    • Oily Messiah

      And probably Satan, Saul Alinsky, a couple of ghostwriters who have since been “disappeared,” and maybe a couple jilted lovers (female of course).

  • jesuswasablack

    “This just came out a little while ago.”
    Trumps press secretary:
    https://intoxination.net/sites/default/files/postimage/mattdrudge.png

    • Bub the Leftwing Zombie

      Something about that picture…you can almost SMELL the worthless bastard.

      • Lark_in_the_AM

        Is that sulfur? Or is he just an ordinary gasbag?

        • edith prickly

          Look at all the flies landing on him!

  • beatbort

    They say history repeats itself, and at the end of Joe McCarthy’s reign of terror, he limped off a defeated, beaten-down lush who died not long afterwards.
    They also say history is written by the winners.

    • ken_kukec

      The second time around, as was said by one of the Marx brothers (coulda been Karl, or maybe Chico), as farce.

  • ViveLaRes
  • edith prickly

    As a child of the 80s, I would never have believed a future Republican presidential candidate would be allowed to fawn over the Russians the way Drumpf does. St. Ronnie Raygun must be spinning in his grave.

  • SullivanSt

    Excellent chance it didn’t come direct to the campaign from their buddy Vlad, who’s very strong like Ben Rapistburger, but rather spread around white supremacist twitter (which is awash both with people who track and retweet Russian propaganda sources as gospel, and with actual Russian-operated propaganda accounts), and Trump picked it up from there, because about the only words he will lay his eyes on it seems are tweets by white supremacists.

    • DensityDestiny

      Yeah, I don’t know though. Those accounts could just be the conduit that Putin’s people are using to disseminate the information. So maybe Trump isn’t knowingly colluding, but is just a dimwitted pawn. Either option is terrifying, and should disqualify him (like a hundred other things he’s done). But his supporters I suppose will laugh it off as “boys being boys”.

  • mailman27

    Is no big deal. Is talk from locker room.

    • Ghenghis McCann

      Da. Anybody who talks out of turn, we put in locker.

  • IdRatherBeDancing

    Oh fucking sigh, this guy.

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