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YourCleanLife Email. Lets Narrow This Down (self.kratom)

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It seems most of us have received this shitty suspicious email, most of whom have never ordered from YCL or KK. It also seems like a vendor gave out our personal information. So let's try and figure this out. Dispite everyone denying handing out out information let's answer these questions.

If someone has ordered from only 1 or 2 vendors ever, and DID receive the email, please speak up, and let us know where you've ordered from!

1) Has anyone received the email that has NOT EVER ordered from Gaia Enthnobotanicals?

2) Has anyone received the email that has NOT EVER ordered from Herbal Salvation?

I know it is NOT from Facebook, as Facebook does not have my actual kratom-ordering email address

How could ANY vendor fucking do this?! This is our PERSONAL nformation? Is this legal? We provided then with personal information?! Can they just hand out our credit card information too? FUCK WHOEVER DID THIS! It's a substance that's nearly a schedule I, yeah we haven't done anything illegal, but fuck that vendor, and fuck James that sent the email for a quick buck in times of need!

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[–]edgrrrpo [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

Been reading over these posts, and the common denominator seems to be Gaia. I've ordered from them and HS, so I cannot offer clarification. And I am NOT saying Gaia sold info, etc, just that the this is the company that seems be toughest to eliminate. But, Gaia made it clear right out of the gate that it was not their doing, and even if it was why in the world would they be promoting YCL? Something just damn weird here...

[–]PM_ME_KRATOM[S] [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Well as u/lamasadveteran says above, he did receive the email, but never ordered from Gaia, so I'm assuming it must be from more than one vendor

Edit: correction, he said he DIDN'T receive the email and never ordered from Gaia.

[–]gj2008 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

he said didnt

[–]PM_ME_KRATOM[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Well that's changes things up, I'm starting to think Gaia again.

[–]rollinronnie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What about that guy who was offering samples a couple months back? Im pretty sure nothing showed up for anybody. Easy buck (hell gotta kinda admire the sneakyness lol target market etc.)

[–]RobinHoodRat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's GAIA. I never ordered from HS and have received spammy emails from Dan before.

[–]edgrrrpo [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Yeah...none of it make sense. And the address I received the email at is only been active for about eight weeks, so this doesn't really dial back (as far as I can tell) to years old data collecting. I'll just throw it out there… Chucky R is messing with us! ;-)

[–]PM_ME_KRATOM[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Well who all have you ordered from with that new email address?

[–]edgrrrpo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

SoCal, HS, Gaia and LI. Checked the history (not much to check!), and those vendors are literally it.

Edit: and Motark, sorry...

[–]Motorsheep [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gaia has a post refuting any involvement in the spam. However, that post (at the time I write this) seems to be conspicuously absent of any statement saying Gaia has not sold their list, and this has been mentioned in the thread. Now, it makes no sense for Gaia to disavow the email and yet also be involved in where it was sent, but a simple clarification from Gaia would be nice.

Frankly, a vendor selling their customer list does not strike me as much of a problem EXCEPT: this is a product that may be illegal any day now and paranoia over being tracked by email sales is pretty intense... and in the case of Gaia I specifically made a comment about torching customer records once the ban went down and Dan agreed... it would be pretty hinky if he was the one giving out customer information (but again, a simple statement would be enough for a lot of people to look elsewhere).

[–]RobinHoodRat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I cosign. I think it was GAIA. BC they have spammed me before or DAN specifically. I have never ordered from HS either bc it's local and I can just go buy it.

[–]pmac1963 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Companies can, and do, sell your personal information. It is a huge market. It is the reason facebook stock is 120 dollars a share. You can ask a company before you do business with them if they share your info in any way. But this happens all the time. It's why we get junk mail and junk email.

[–]TravisRyans [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Specifically customer list are sold. It's generally a pretty decent amount per contact if they have purchased something in that industry before. I work for a firm and we just had a case that included information specific to this.

[–]MadBuddhaAbusa [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I received the email and have never ordered from herbal salvation. I have ordered from gaia though.

[–]rainblanket [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Didn't that kratom-selector site sell/pass on personal information at one time? Wasn't there also something similar that happened with Indo Elephant?

[–]Jestrice2002 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Those were the two things I was thinking of. And if the email says that it's all from the same source, and HS and Gaia USED to have a common source, it's possibly from something that didn't just happen. I didn't receive the email, and I hadn't tried Indo Elephant yet when that went down, but I do think I shared my email with that kratom-selector site.

[–]rainblanket [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Exactly. The likelihood that we could trace this information leak back to its origination is small, just because that's the nature of the internet

[–]Jestrice2002 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Definitely true. And with the amount of people on here that use Gaia and HS, it really could be a coincidence. They are pretty popular. All I know is, I'm sticking with the ones I trust and love, and blaming this on whatever shady tactics YCL uses. ;)

[–]Rez_Chef [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think he accidentally cc'd his entire mailing list or something, if I remember correctly

[–]Iamasadveteran [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I did not get the email, I did buy from your clean life unfortunately. Haven't purchased from Gaia or herbal salvation if that helps narrow it down

[–]PM_ME_KRATOM[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well that confuses things a bit because I've NEVER ordered from YCL, but have from both Gaia and HS. Must be from more than one vendor.

[–]shitlordcaligula [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I am a regular of Herbal Salvation. Have bought from SPL once or twice, but that's it. I didn't receive any email, so I sincerely doubt that HS has anything to do with this.

[–]DestructionIce [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Ordered from Gaia before and got an odd email from KKratom today. Is that what you're talking about?

[–]g0ldl10n [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ordered from HS and YCL, and never received an email.

[–]Rhino236 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ordered from HS and Gaia before never YcL

[–]FenixDelta753 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I've ordered from Gaia and YCL with no email.

[–]Krat123 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I received the email and have ordered from gaia and liherbals.

[–]AzulKat [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I didn't get the email, and I've ordered from both Gaia and Herbal-Salvation. Don't know what that means if anything. I checked my junk email folder as well.

[–]gj2008 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

sounds to me like someones email list was sold , hacked or shared ... but if its just my email im not sure its a big deal for me ...as long as cc info isnt out there ...which im pretty sure I havnt gotten any charges to it yet .. but will be keeping a close eye on it ...... should I be more concerned of its just my email ???

[–]Crayycraig [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ordered from YCL. Did not get the email

[–]smw0124 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The email has the SAME theme as this comment from YCL - posted just yesterday:

"We have the same farmer as Gaia and many others. Different batches have varying quality - every leaf has different alkaloid concentrations."

YCL claims to have no knowledge of the mass email. Not buying it...

I'll post the link to the comment.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/55ngts/comment/d8eeka1?st=ITYREPTB&sh=984fa05d

[–]Thewatchfuleye1 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Is it possible Reddit sold the emails? They can to an ad parter... I seem to recall seeing a Kratom ad at least once.

I use the same email for Reddit as I did for any contact I had with any vendor I ever ordered from or even just emailed.

My wife does not use Reddit. She did not receive the email.

[–]PM_ME_KRATOM[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've never had Reddit tied to my email address.

[–]tongueofra [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ordered from Gaia, Herbal Salvation, Motark, and BKB - no email received (not is Spam either).

[–]bdaonion [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ordered from GAIA about one month ago for the first time ever. Received YourCleanLife email today.

[–]deflatedme [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

does the email contain an affiliate link? that would explain alot if it did.

[–]kratomhanks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Seems like an attempt to get new customers for YCL, so if you already bought there, you wouldn't get the email. Whoever sent this had to have multiple vendor lists (likely Gaia and HS) to scrub out YCL.

[–]Grixdale [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've ordered from YCL recently, never from Gaia or Herbal Salvation. As of yet, I have not gotten an email. Stuff like this makes me nervous, until this possible ban thing, I'd only ordered from one vendor for the past 2 years almost. Now I'm wondering if I made a mistake, reaching out to other vendors during the possible DEA mess.

[–]rediteux [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I have ordered from both Gaia and HS and did NOT get an email (yes, I checked my spam)

Edited to add: I've never ordered from YCL

[–]blkbriar42 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ordered from YCL only. Never received this email. Link?

[–]VanMadison38 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Guys,

Anyone with a little coding ability can collect emails from anyone on the net based on their expressed interest in Kratom. Bots can scour social media and even reddit to suck up users who mention Kratom and find an associated email address. It happens a lot.

It's shady and I wouldn't do it for my marketing campaigns, but it's a Brave New World out there where all of your personal preferences and contact info can be found.

I am a customer of Gaia and did not receive the email. But I also do not talk about Kratom much on social media where my email is linked.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/567e1v/please_read_about_the_ycl_email_mentioning_gaia/

[–]kratbegone [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gaia here, No hs. Definitely them or hacked them from reading a few threads.

[–]chatsy2012 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I have ordered from Gaia & herbal salvation but never from your clean life

[–]Recondite_neophyte [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I just check my junk mail... I got the email and I've only ordered from Gaia, SoCal, and HM&B.

[–]nodnizzle [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What if Gaia had their email list hacked. Like, they were dealing with all those email transaction things after the ban announcement, and if they clicked a shady link, bam there goes their whole list if it's saved in something like Gmail.

That would explain why dude doesn't know anything about it. Maybe it happened to a few vendors or something. I dunno, but it would be nice to know if it wasn't on purpose.

People sell your information ALL the time. And you'll be sold out to the authorities by shit you say online, so don't trust anyone with your shit because even if you can trust them, they can get hacked easily.

[–]foxxy1974 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

sounds like COMPLETE bullshit. Someone has it out for clean life. This vendor is or was an approved vendor on a facebook group. Sounds like someone is starting shit. I suggest if you purchased from whoever and you like them-speak up. if you don't just remember you don't react the same to all kratom. but don't come out on a public forum sprouting bullshit. go directly to the vendor and work it out in PRIVATE. This just makes you look like a whiny ass bitch. end rant.

[–]PM_ME_KRATOM[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Whoa, I'm not spreading anything, this is what has happened, I didn't say anything yet as far as who it could be, but SOMEONE must have done this, and a lot of people are pissed off. Both HS and Gaia have denied this. Our information is coming from somewhere and it's not a private thing, EVERYBODY recieved this and our information is being sold? So we need to talk t those effected to investigate? Lol its not rocket science. I'm not the one who said it was either of them, but trying to narrow it down makes us sound like whiny bitches? You're clearly the one that's bitching. We're trying to figure something out, if you dont wanna help, leave

[–]Motorsheep [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Normally I would agree with you, but this is the absolute wrong time for any company to pour gasoline on the paranoia-inferno that the DEA has started. It was bad marketing, bad business, and bad mojo all around... and the "marketer" who sent the email and is desperately spinning this blunder in another thread isn't helping himself or YCL by trying to be clever about it.

Also, a search of YCL threads shows that this is not the only problem they seem to be having at the moment. The only thing we have to go on with vendors is information others post and even the best vendor can go rogue when it looks like the end is near.