Hiroyuki range banned people en masse in 2ch to make them buy 2ch passes (ronin).The most popular boards require you to have a 2ch pass to start new threads.He was kicked off 2ch when a hacker found out he was storing and selling data of all ronin users.Hiro fakes not knowing English well and makes dumb posts on purpose when people make legitimate questions to derail the thread.Despite supposedly having money problems he's already refused two millionaires wanting to buy the website.2ch and Futaba warned us when news of Hiro purchasing 4chan popped up, but you didn't listen.
fuck off 8gag
>>742920Not an argument.Also I already lurked 2ch when that scandal happened.
>>742920t.staff
>>742912Hello Jim
>>742920t. hiro
Sounds about right. Hiro went from suspicious to outright dastardly to me.
>>742920>>743035Is this the best you can do?
delete this
>>743064shut up hiro
delete thread pleasehiroshima big mistake
>>732866
>>743086Yeah... despite all of the Japanese Internet knowing what a fraud Hiroyuki is, I'm sure it's all one big conspiracy by the 8gag meanies!
When is Hiro going to put his name?I wanna say fuck you to him personally before he makes every board pay2post
>>742912He got impatient and went full retard. He said it himself, there are no stupid 4chan users who will believe in anything he says without proof. Isn't he the one always saying he wants reasons? Well then show us the financial reports and make every single document transparent.
It's not like we had a choice. I wanted to have some optimism but I should have known optimism is always a mistake.
Someone post the 2ch translated thread
>>743099>>742276
>>743106>Hiroyuki just shitposts the thread to oblivion to derail the conversation when shit hits the fan, but that's probably not going to work on 4chan users.Likepottery
holy shit, that must be why he created >>>/vip/
>>743090> I'm sure it's all one big conspiracy by the 8gag meanies!Yes, actually it is considering who owns 8gag.
Why did he refuse Notch's massive one time donation?Why did he refuse to sell the site if it is in such poor financial states?Why did he price it at no less than 11 mil?Why is he using the same Pass system as last time?Why didn't he take the donation AND implement the pass system? What fiendish shit is he cooking up with the justification of 'the site needs more or it will die' that the pass won't debunk but a massive donation would?Bad times are coming.
>>743086Prime example why relocating to 8chan in the event of 4chan shutting down is a bad fucking idea. Cuckposting is even worse than hereI would legit entertain the possibility of hosting a mirror of 4chan sometime just to stop this happening
>>743112Is he also behind the constant /pol/ thread to hide the /vip/ complaints?
>>742912Friend of mine in Germany told me about an hour ago he got range banned.
>>742912buy a fucking passtoo afraid of being banned for shitposting faggot?
>>743123Did he have a pass?Please tell me you know, for the love of god.
>>743127No, I have 4 passes and a premium subscription to private proxies
I'm range banned from /tv/ for a 3 day ban, can confirm.
>>743116>11 millionWhere are you getting this from?
>>743145Before Notch bitched out (or revealed he was only pretending to be retarded) he approached Hiroshima Nagasaki. Hiro said it wasn't for sale and when pushed said 11 mil iirc.There should still be screen shots floating around.
That fucker sold out. Put on this sob story for us and then pulled this shit
My ISP got rangebanned on some boards for absolutely no reason, so this does seem kinda plausible.The ban seems to come and go.
>>743158hiro said he'd have to do 1) a bad thing; or, 2) another bad thing; or, 3) add spicy new features to the 4chan pass.He then proceeded to do exactly one of these things.
So what if Hiro put up malware ads and created a board for paid users only and lets those users distinguish themselves and in the future deletes some boards?
>>743133No he doesn't have a pass
>>743158He literally posted two messages. One explaining the situation and another saying that it's his fault... and then got 4100 responses.The community created the response, not the messenger.
>>743153That Reddit Post was fake.
>>743173>>743133Proof.
>>743174And we told him what to do, and he still pulled this shit
>>743176So are most of the other conspiracies ITT but that doesn't stop gullible people from believing it.
>>743177boatsluts player detected
>>743163>moot makes semi sustainable model>hiro either through ignorance or with intent goes in and changes the model, dropping ad space and adding loads of new boards>cries foul at the lack of money>refuses to sell the site on multiple occasions>refuses massive donations>goes forward with the pass system mirroring his old siteThere is no money problem, not really. If there is it's because he manufactured one. Just look at how he wouldn't take the donation, a one time, no strings one at that.He knows what he is doing.>>743176What post? I'm just talking about twitter drama.
>>742920Kys Hiro
>>743180>he says after seeing the 4chanPass become 4chan GoldFull Circle was the right call from moot. We're 2ch now.
>>743177Can we get a screen of the banned page?
>>743119I'm seriously considering this myself - I have the means and a lax enough government. The only problem is that I don't think I'm autistic/persistent enough to moderate away CP every day.
>rangebanned on some board for no reasonHE ACTUALLY DID IT
>>743192As you can see in that screenshot he isn't online.If he comes back on while this thread is alive I'll ask for it.
>>743177Nobody would ever expect the IJN to launch their counterattack from Germany. FUKKEN GENIUS!
>>743179Yes, he should have deleted /pol/, but he thinks that board promotes free speech.
>>743193You need mods? I'm sure as shit you can find some volunteers.
>>743193>I will volunteer myself if it's good
>>743183>moot makes semi sustainable modelSee this is the problem. 4chan was never sustainable at all. Moot has always said this. It's more likely than not that moot was propping up 4chan all this time with his own personal money from the VC funds he got from Drawquest and whatever that other one was.He essentially gave up on his dreams when he sold this website. He gave up on being someone unique and sold out to Google. Fucking Google, of all the places he could have gone he picks probably the worst place for anonymity or any free speech at all on the internet. Fuck moot. He sold out and became a cuck. I'll never forgive him for that. If you're reading this moot, I hope you're enjoying the free lunch at Google HQ. Enjoy the soul-crushing realization that you're now a nameless cog in a giant corporation, and no one will ever remember you for anything.
>>743238I bet moot is one of those monkeys Google hires to trawl through indexed images looking for child porn
>>7432388gag confirmed
>>743238>The_two_supposably_fake_twitter_tweets.jpg
>>743249What the fuck are you talking about, idiot? I've been on this goddamn website for 10 years. It's been with me through thick and thin. I care enough that I've paid $20 a year for the last four years because I didn't want to see it die. This is really hard for me, and a lot of other people. We all like to take this shithole for granted, but once it's gone we won't realize just how big a hole it's left in our hearts.>>743259http://chrishateswriting.com/
>>743183So show me the proof
I have really mixed feelings. On the one hand, I think he has been adorable. He shitposts well for a fob, the word filters are clever and reminded me of a time moot gave a shit about this site. I liked his attitude where he went to boards like /sp/ and just straight up asked. How can I fix it? and then went and did it within the length of the thread.But I am nervous as fuck to financially support the guy and buy a 4chan pass.I don't trust him after shit I've read so it basically becomes a matter of not wanting anything that can trace back to me here. Maybe I should just buy a bunch with buttcoins and then never actually use them.
>>743207True, it wouldn't feel right paying them in tendies though. A split ad revenue type thing could work I guess.>>743215It all depends on how the current situation pans out but the plan would be essentially a clone, possibly with a few boards merged or deleted. (/soc/ and /mlp/ come to mind.)
>>743285Don't make a cloneYou can't manage more than 5 boards with so little people
>>743116>Why did he refuse Notch's massive one time donation?Because there wasn't one he just suggested interest in buying into the site. THen second guessed it a lot cause of /pol/ shit.>Why did he refuse to sell the site if it is in such poor financial states?Personal investment, he obviously loves running a chan.>Why did he price it at no less than 11 mil?What the fuck bait did you fall for now anon?>Why is he using the same Pass system as last time?IDK I don't like it. Orignal passes were a good idea, but this is getting silly.
>>743284>Guise I need money to pay my debts from my previous jewish fuck ups>pls understandu
From a software standpoint, we need transparency. The software used on 4chan must be licensed under some form of license in order to quell fears that our posts are being tracked. We need a legitimate and thorough security analysis. How do I know my posts aren't being tracked and sold to third parties?Happened before with Hiro.
>>743284https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYkACVDFmeg>Just a low IQ nigger amiright hahah free speech.
>>743285Make PikariChan! Pikari is basically a grown up yotsuba
>>743300You underestimate just how many volunteers there would beThe real issue is mod/janny retention. Being able to delete threads/posts/submit ban requests on command is fun for a few days, but then it becomes tedious like anything else
>>743305Go take a look at the new advertising page.You see that company in the bottom right? Rubicon?Even a tiny bit of googling shows that, according to shitters on a tech support forum, this company is known for a stubborn tracking cookie.Fuck this nip. I really do.
>tfw hiro starts accidentally range banning entire countries
>>743318He's fucking selling our data after all
>>743326proof?
>>743319>accidentallyGood one.>>743326Do some more googling. I think it was an apple tech support thing
>>743305I've been thinking/saying this for years, but 4chan really needs to go open source as a backup plan for if it dies. Moot copy/pasted 2channel's source to make 4chan, it's only natural that it passes on the torch in case it dies.
>>743328https://discussions()apple()com/thread/4429944?start=0Not a lot, but enough to start being suspicious.
>>743238>cuckSelling a website led to his girlfriend cheating on him? Damn, that must've been soul-crushing for him.
>>743337We already have software out (open-source) that is far better than what 4chan is and has more features. I just want 4chan to give us assurance that they aren't fucking with our data like what happened with 2ch and 8ch.
>>743328Other than the apple stuff see also his history with 2ch
Daily reminder:https://8ch.net/pol/res/7715964.html#7723167
>>743388That's the only reason that apple post is worth anything.He has a history of this. Don't trust this fuck.
>>743390>fired a cripple from his own company>jews
>>743259Did you just use "supposably" unironically?...Wow.http://blog.dictionary.com/supposedly-vs-supposably/
>>743394That's what worries me.
>>743409>Autism
>>743411Jump while you're cognizant. You'll just fall back into the 'you're here forever' crush if you don't.
>>743445Jump where? Lain was my main before the retards came I'm a vagabond now.
>>743123Germany's had issues with range bans for a while. Tell him to send an email to the mods explaining this and/or call his ISP to have his IP address changed.
>>743453Depends. There are people working on clonechans others planning migrations to established nichechansAt the very least it's about whether you want to say here. Jump, get some fresh air and perspective, then figure it all out by either finding a good secondary chan or coming back to 4chan and good old /vip/Nothing is certain if you leave, least of all a good quality substitute, shit could be worse even. If you stay though, things certainly aren't going to get better.
We tried to warn you, we really did.
I got rangedbanned in the boards I browsed the most.This is just a conspiracy theory, but I think there might be an algorithm that rangebans people based on which boards they browse the most.I can post just fine on most boards except the ones I use the most. Damnit.
>>743467im thinking about just quitting the internet
>>7434538ch
>>743471I wish I could. I could see it doing nothing but improving my life. Good luck out there, if you make that call. >>743468Thanks 2ch. This is the most heartfelt I told you so ever. >>7434748ch is run my Hiro's collaborator, are you fucking high?
>>743467I left before when GG happened.Went to 8ch and stayed on /v/ for quite a while before jumping to the Cyberpunk board.Then I went to lain.Then I went to another.Now I'm here.Been on chans for 8 fucking years.Now I don't even know where to post.
>>743496sushi
>>743505That was the other.
>>743195>>743162>>743142>>743123>>743177>>743319>>743469Nuh uh, this literally never happened. Please fuck off back to 8gag.
>>743238So, hes anonymous now? Nice pass, cuck. Way to fall for it.
Relevant Futaba thread if you can read moon: http://may.2chan.net/b/res/437349795.htm>日本で2ちゃんが閉鎖する危ない!…などと大騒ぎした挙句荒稼ぎした実績をあるからなあ…4chのGAIJINはそういう過去の集金パターンを知らないはずなのでがっつりDonateすると思うんですけど(名推理)>In Japan he would make a fuss and say "2channel is in danger of closing!" then make bank. The gaijin at 4chan don't know the old moneymaking pattern, so they'll probably donate a lot.
>>744038Can't wake up
>>744038>嘘と嘘を見抜けない人は>People who do not see through the lies and lies:(
>>744050
>>742912>mfw post 2010 weebs literally made an idol of this fish-lips nippfffffffhahahaha
>>744052>That's not true, check inside and see what they're saying ?Did I translate it right ?
>>744062Using a message board is tough if you can't tell that lies are lies.
>>743192If you get ISP banned then you don't get a banned page.You get a error saying "Posting from your ISP has been blocked due to abuse. 4chan Pass users can bypass this block" and then a button for more info".I'm on the same boat. My country was ISP banned 3 or 4 years ago and I have to buy a pass every year if I want to post on this site.I wanted to have faith and believe Hiro would one day remove the ban but I guess things are going in the opposite way now.
>>744098What country are you from?
>>743238>whatever that other one wasYou're probably thinking of canv.asAnd yes you're right, but also keep in mind the tremendous stress of having to deal with the govt. and the media as long as he's admin. I don't know the extent of his trials but you may have given up under the pressure too.Still doesn't excuse him going full normalfag anyway.
>>744132The shittiest country in south america
>>743301God I hope notch does buy it in the end. We need someone who gives a shit about this site.
>>744140Paraguay?
>>742912/vip/ and attention whore clover sticks are the worst things he could have done.
>>743385Going open source wouldn't help at all in that case. How do you make sure that the 4chan servers are actually running the code that's published?
>>744140>>744193Venezuela?
>>744140>>744193>>744205Argentina?We were ISP banned a year ago or in the first months of this year for like a month thanks to some underage faggots from Tadinga.
>>744205This one>>744193>>744211Nope
>>744140There are tiers of shittiness in South America?
>>744052
>>744217Hah! I knew it. When are you guys lynching Maduro?>>744219You bet.
>>744219Yes.t. South American.Chilean here.>>744224Didn't they already have Presidential elections or some shit alreay?Didn't the faggot of Maduro lose them?
>>744224Soon hopefully>Didn't they already have Presidential elections or some shit alreay?>Didn't the faggot of Maduro lose them?I wish
>threads about this shit always getting derailedI'd rather talk about how shitty the addition of /vip/ and attention whore clovers are
>>744232When are Presidential elections there?
>>744236>4chan pass user since>/vip/And this is only the start. Better prepare yourself
>>744229I think they had congressional elections and the supreme court has since been blocking them from passing reforms. Also Maduro is basically establishing martial law due to the so called economic war he says he is facing.>>744232I'm rooting for your country, anon. If only the military had succeeded in taking down Chavez, it wouldn't have come to this.
>>744242>I think they had congressional elections and the supreme court has since been blocking them from passing reforms. Also Maduro is basically establishing martial law due to the so called economic war he says he is facing.My fucking god.
>>742920You can hate both hiro and 8gag, you know.
>>744038This needs its own thread itself.
>>744038>the faggots at /vip/ are supporting this shitThat board is a collection of brainwashed shekel-givers
>>744265that post seems like a redditfag to me
>>74427795% of /vip/ sounds like Reddit, really.Whatever the case.
>>744278>Board that needs you to pay to post sounds like redditJust wait until Hiro allows you to add a name, avatar and signature to your posts if you're a pass user. Then you'll see some real shit
>>744283It'll happen. It's clear he wants them pass shekels any way he can. He'll listen to these types of people, too.
>>744286I just can't believe this people are supporting this...I hope it's all trolling.
>>744283delete your post you stupid goy dont give that japanese faggot any ideas
>>744289
>>744283You can already add a name to your posts. Moot was never brave enough to remove it site-wide. Namefags and tripfags never brought anything of value to 4chan.
(user was gifted 4chan gold for this post)
>>744283You can already do all of that you baka
>>742912I honestly think he's just trying to market passes. He would be taking donations (or offers from wealthy people like Notch) if he were in serious financial trouble. He bought 4chan as an investment and wants to make a profit. For moot, this was just his website that he made so breaking even was fine. I actually think he's preferable to many of the people offering to buy 4chan though. He wants to keep the users coming here, so even though he's clueless he respects that 4chan has a culture and community, and won't try anything too ridiculous. Probably.
>>744306He bought 4chan for a hobbyHe had to abandon 2ch to evade government fines for libel.
>>744306He's too perceptible to listening to the advice of the assholes in /qa/ yelling at him on what to do. That shit with /vip/ was done on a whim thanks to a specific thread. The people in that thread basically speak for everyone on the site.
>>744314Wut. What thread was this? I can't believe Hiro hasn't learned his lesson after the past couple months.
>>744309Better than any of the twitter trolls who only know of this place from /pol/. I get that he's sketchy but he spent the first part of this year adding boards that people said they wanted. Now he wants to change things, and I know some do not like the new /vip/ board (bring back tex boards plox) it honestly has very little effect on the rest of the site. Making the popular boards pass only would be a major change, but I doubt he'll try anything like that.>>744314That is my point; he doesn't want to offend us. Not sure which thread also.
>>744038Two of the biggest Japanese websites are trying to warn us of Hiroyuki but people don't care. Sad!!>>744309>He bought 4chan for a hobby>hobbyl o l
>>744038>こいつらの言う儲かってないは嘘だからしんじちゃいけないよThis thread is good.
>>744309
>>744232Fellow Venezuelan here, I feel your pain bro>>744237Presidential elections are fucking useless when the government is controlling everything regarding to it
Why the fuck is everyone on this site such a gullible idiot?I've been warning you people since day one. Moot had as much of an idea of who he was selling the site to as we did, he just wanted to get rid of it fast.He also clearly stated before he left that the site was in no risk of running out of funds any time soon.Everything Hiro has done has been one big ruse to squeeze money out of the userbase, how can people not see this, even after he added a literal 4chan gold icon to posts and a 4chan gold exclusive board?
how long till he closes /qa/ since we're onto his tricks?
>>744539That was before /pol/ brought legions of newcomers and the media in because of the election and all sorts of expansions to the site.
>>742912>>744306>Hiroyuki range banned people en masse in 2ch to make them buy 2ch passes (ronin).He mass banned greece 3 times now, >>744456 he probably did it to other small countries too thinking that they will just buy passes and no one will notice, no one probably did.
>>744569>what is proxy spam
>>744576Not a reason to ban literally all of the countries ISPs and phone companies i am pretty sure, if it was someone changing his ip to avoid banns then one IP range or even one ISP or two would be understandable,literally every single ISPs of the countries is not.This is not an IP range ban, its a literally every ip that seems to be coming from greece ban.
>>744600Source: my ass
>>744605> I don't know how to find a proxy that exits from specific countries to verify what other people are saying.You don't need to project your disappointment onto others anon, just git gud.
>>743238>>743266what is up with this new capcode I start seeing everywhere?
>>744615Not a capcode. 4chan pass.
>>744613>i'm going to pretend I tried to post on 4chan with a bunch of Greek proxiesFuck off
>>744619can you turn it on and off? Since most on /vip/ don't seem to have it
>>744625Yes, it only shows up if you type 'since4pass' in the options field.
>>744605This is not the first time as i said, it happened 3 times, talked to my irl friends and some normalfags and made them check, all of the countries ISPs where banned, except Vodafone.There is no fucking way a person got banned on two boards with all the IP ranges of 4 fucking different ISPs tree times in a row in the span of two months, this is either a technical mistake or something fishy.
>>744635Australia got banned because of excessive shit posting on /mu/You brought it on yourself
>>744615hiro stop
>>744644only on IP ranges belonging to mobile networksdumb phoneposters deserved it
>>744644Australia got an IP range ban of a single ISP that was Telstra and everyone could see why they where ban, as you said excessive signposting,because Australia is a pretty big place that translates to many posters, are you saying that the ban of 4 ISPs three times on the same two boards that happen to be two of the biggest boardsin two months of a relatively small country without any notice or reasoning is the same thing?
>>744667Yeah, also if I remember right that was for posting pedo shit on /tv/
>>744038ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!thread is gone, i hope someone took some screenies of it
>>744680Wonder what happened, maybe Hiro got it pulled somehow.
>>744700Threads die by expiration date, not by reaching the last page.
>>743177My entire ISP got rangebanned 4 years ago when moot was still in charge. I had to buy a pass just to be able to post. So this isn't some new bullshit Hiro thought of, it's been done in the past.
>>744709Hiro is abusing it tho.We have never had this many rangebans, EVER
>>743123posting from Germany. test.
>>744720Yes. I also get random range ban problems when I post on /tv/. The quick reply box doesnt work sometimes and from time to time I get a ton of 'connection errors' whenever I try to post on any board.I thought it was a problem of my computer or router but I have fresh installed windows several times and reconfigured my router to no avail.IIRC All of this started happening by february or march this year. I never before had any of these problems posting and I have been doing so for the past 7 years. Something shady is going on.
>>742912WE DIDNT LISTEN
>>744765If you are range banned you will get a message saying so. Your internet is just shit
>>744775
>>743301notch is pol regular. just saying.
>>742912>>742920The mods obviously astroturf support for Hiroyuki because they're afraid people will move to 8gag or any other site and they'll lose their hot pocket power over the users.
>>744778Go back to 8gag faggot
>>744628>since4passdoes not work for me
>>744778>they're afraid people will move to 8gag I don't think that>they'll lose their hot pocket power over the users.But I think that
>>744778Can't do it for free if you have no one to lord over.
>>742912>Hiroyuki range banned people en masse in 2ch to make them buy 2ch passes (ronin).Is this why Greece keeps getting blocked from posting on /pol/ and /vg/ every other week or so?Does he want to make the people who browse these boards buy passes?
It would be cool if we actually had someone from the staff TALKING to us directly, you know. A conversation with back and forth.But no. You get some vague post, people post about 5 billion ideas and then that's it, no one responds to anything.
>>744828It doesn't matter what they say autists here would freak out.The inmates should be kept separate from the guards
>>7431912ch is a textboard, you dumb fuck.
>>744680>>744038Incompletehttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://may.2chan.net/b/res/437349795.htm
>>744848Gods work anon, I went lurking on 2ch and they had a good non non thread on /b/ which I stole and posted on /a/here
>>744680>>744700There are over 9000 まとめ sites for 2chan and 2ch. http://futalog.com/437349795.htm
>>744895>ちんこみたいな顔しやがって ワロタ
I am an anus.
>>744038>>744848>admin is a complete jewish liar>site isn't in danger of dying anytime soon>retards who live inside their board bubble will never realise this and keep falling for his tricksmoot should've just close the goddamn site if he knew what he was doing.
GUYS IT'S HAPPENING
>>744923What was the subject?
>>744906You can see the rest of the thread with images instead of a partial google cache, here >>744895They were talking about how Hiro is viewed as really dubious in the Japanese IT industry and how despite claiming to be broke, he has generated some 20 million in funding outside of Japan, basically saying that he has fled from his debts at home in order to make money elsewhere. They also comment on the usage of adblock here, by us.One としあき comments on how Hiro is percieved like a yakuza in the way he conducts business and another poster says that there people have been deceived by the image put out by marketing and that in reality most don't trust him. The full thread is pretty brutal in terms of how he is actually viewed in Japan online.
>>744925hirojewmoot
Is it possible to filter the clover on any extensions yet?
>>744926So this is a universal view in 2ch and wherever, and not just a mixed view? The whole thing seemed pretty dubious in the first place
>>7429208gag.pl is not the same as 8gag.net
>>744788But it does, you dumbfuck.
>>744941>and not just a mixed viewLike everywhere these sort of things are a mixed issue but generally speaking there isn't a whole lot of love between Hiro and his old userbase. He has a history of treating them in the same vauge, bullshit manipulative manner as he as treated us.
I don't understand him. If he is after money why doesn't he try to sell 4chan to shkreli in this case? That guy is a millionare and I have a feeling that he is acutally willing to pay the price.
>>744948Constant stream of money >>> One time deal
>>744948Can't get the golden eggs if you sell the goose that lays 'em.
>>744778But swaglord doesn't seem to like him.
>>744948>If he is after money why doesn't he try to sell 4chan to shkreli in this case?Hiro is the director of company that deals with data, 未来検索ブラジル. http://razil.jp/In the past this company had a deal with Hotto Link, to provide data from 2ch and other sites. http://www.hottolink.co.jp/englishA once off payment is potentially nothing compared to the income stream provided by managing user data into a format that can be accessed by corporations who pay good money to access this data. Data is valuable; Google is an example of the most successful big data multinational.
Why isn't Hiro autosaging this thread if all this is true?Checkmate... Now move on please
>>744950if he fucks up 4chan then he won't get that much money I think. I wish the higher ranked mods would step in or something like that. I really don't like the direction this is going.>>744958I remember that. /g/ posted a lot of those threads back then when hiroshimoot took over.
>>744904But this website is for animus.
>>744959Not to raise suspicion, maybe?
>>744959That would only make it seem more suspect.The benefit of something like 4chan is that here are so many users posting that information gets reliably drowned out.
>>744959brabra streisand
>>744965>>744963Wrong, let me tell you the truth: ParanoiaSo please stop.
>>744970>ParanoiaWhich part?Which parts are you trying to imply are wrong?
>>744970Hello Hiro
>>744959He's already censoring smaller thingssee>>744923
>>744971All of this. Hiro is a great admin, he purchased this website when the previous admin was burned out from administering it, he was hiding financial troubles from users.Bear with Hiro. None of this is true. /vip/ is a needed evil.
>>744765Quick reply box doesnt work for me sometimes as well which then I have to rely on the original form instead. Here I thought it was a problem on my end.
>>744977Moot stated that 4chan was good for the next years to come when it comes to financial stuff. I don't believe hiroshimoot for a second.
>>744977>All of this.Are you trying to insinuate that Hiro isn't in the employ of 未来検索ブラジル and that this company wasn't doing business with Hotto Link?
>>744977>>744972
>>744981As I said you were fooled by him.He said this to set up on Hiro.Believe Hiro, not moot.
>>744982How did you get this information?
>>744984Now this is some meta roleplay shitposting.
>>744989Why would you believe an ex-admin?Illogical
>>744990>Why would you believe an ex-admin?I don't. Which is why I don't believe a word Nishimura has to say without evidence.
>>744993Even if I used to be admin at other chan, what matters is 4chan. The present. Not the past.
>>744996>why does it matter that the chef of this restaurant pissed on my steak last week?>all that matters is the present, I fully trust him to not piss on my steak today
>>744997But he already pissed on it and he's having a laugh watching everyone eat it and pretending it still tastes good.
>>744997No food analogies please.
>>744984moot did some shit too, but I would still believe him a million times over Hiro when it comes to 4chan.
>>745002Don't do that, you need to believe Hiro.Why would Hiro remove the ads if there was no financial trouble? Illogical
>>745004Yes I agree with you, we should believe Hiro.
>>744778I'm not even bothering with any boards but /qa/ until I know this shit is fixed. No point in wasting my time on a community that will be gone in a month.
>>745004Why would he censor threads if he wasn't lying?
>>745005>>745004Hello friends it seems we are on the same page, I too would rather believe Hiro over the moot.
>>745006I am sure that if enough people purchase a 4chan pass we will not be gone in a month
I too blindly believe in our good admin.He just wants the best for this website.
>>744988>How did you get this information?https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/未来検索ブラジルhttps://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/西村博之https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRsT4wPmiGkhttp://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/ひろゆきhttp://echo-news.net/japan/what-polices-gained-from-brazil-is-2ch-money-launderinghttp://systemincome.com/tag/ひろゆき(西村博之)https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ホットリンクhttp://tarakoumihe.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/(株)ホットリンクhttp://echo-news.net/japan/hottolink-onignores-the-affiliation-fee-on-matome-site秘密じゃないよ>>744996Now this is some meta roleplay shitposting.
this horseshit is getting surreal
>>745007Why would he give a 25 discount on 4chan passes if Hiro was lying?When he wants to make moneyIllogical, discounts means less money
>>745015Wikipedia sources? Bad, can be editable by anyone.Youtube sources? Bad, can be uploaded by anyone.Systemincome sources? Bad, can be modified by anyoneEcho-news sources? Bad, very biased against HiroPlease find good sources for that information
>>745018Steam makes more money during their big sales than during any other timeDespite giving discounts.You're an idiot.
>>745024But this is not Steam, this is 4chanAs I said, just trust Hiro, it is a very complex subject
>>745026How about you go and fuck off
>>745026fuck off hirojew
>>744962>>745017>image.jpg>>745023You're fucking desperate now. Those sources can be cross referenced all over the Internet. You aren't going to get anything more concrete than that, champion.
>>745026I'm not trusting some retarded nip who has a history of selling his users information. Fuck off.
>>745028You rage because you were proven wrong, it is normalBe the bigger men and just give inWhy would the owner of a website lie about its own death, illogical, Hiro loves 4chan
>>745032Then that just means the information is falseWell doneI applaud the efforts of making the fake content though
>>745034You still need to work on your English, Hiro
>>745023>...Hiro sources? What Hiro sources?
>>745032>he isn't accepting muh cherry picked bullshit! Get him!Take your meds /pol/ smoker.
>>745043Hiro sources?
>>745040When getting blown the fuck out, it's idea to stop posting because you're only fool of yourself. >>745043Slightly>>745044This is really fucking sad if you are being remotely serious.
>>745023This is the point where you're supposed to bring your sources on the table and explain why they're better.
>>745050I used to think like you, then I realized Hiro was telling the truth, please believe me
>>745051Illogical, I have no source for proving something not happened, impossible to exist
>>745054You just dismissed it, you need to bring your own sources to support your statements. You can't just continually deny the other person's statements, that's not how arguments work.
>>745052I now see you are right and realize we are in financial trouble
>>745065Thank you user .
Fuck you hiro
>>745073lel, what ads? Hiro cancelled it already.
>>745073Do people seriously use Adblock on 4chan?
You don't really believe any of this do you? Anyone can say anything about Hiro, and there's literally no proof. All I see is people saying things over and over, but when asked to provide evidence there only evidence is more people saying things and no hard evidence.
>>745082Yes Hiro, we do.
>>745091Thank you for buying a pass
>>745091Good work since4pass userYou were gifted a free year of pass for this post
>>745091A very important post! Witnessed!!
Please do not use adblock on 4chan.Even if we have no ads.And please buy a pass, Hiro is telling the truth.
>>745091Who should I believe?You and your shitposting friend who goes "no hiro is good!" or all the sources on the net and 2ch clearly talking about shady, scummy and bad things he has done?Hmmm. Tough choice indeed.
>>745113Belive hiro.
>>745113Alright I'll bite.Law student here.You can't judge someone for their past actions, you need concrete proof of the facts as they are in the present if you want to assert if they have committed a crime or not.As it stands now, there is little proof 4chan is not undergoing financial trouble. On the other hand, we have many reasons to believe it IS undergoing financial trouble.His past is only relevant when you want to apply the penalty. That's criminal law.
>>745082I didn't mind image banner advertisements on 4chan until they were replaced by sketchy 3rd party javascript.
>>745094I dunno why. I'm deff not one of those "buy more passes blz" types, but those ads help keep the lights on. Do you all dislike Hot Tenga adverts that much?
>>745118We're not at a fucking court here. We're trying to figure out whether hiro is a good administrator and can be trusted. I don't think so, since his track record doing the very same job on a very similar site (2ch) is anything but good, considering he was ousted out of here. For this reason I will not buy a pass. I'm not going to support someone who I don't trust and who will most likely run this site into the ground within a year anyway.
>>745118>you need concrete proof of the facts as they are in the presentsure>>744923>there is NO proof 4chan is undergoing financial trouble.FTFY
>>745113B-But you need to believe in Hiro even though 2ch derided him for shady shit that he pulled and is now pulling on 4chan!!!
>>745128There is no wrongdoing in what he did there.Let's classify Hiro's crime at that specific case.Object: Our freedom of speech specifically regarding our ability to discuss 4chan's financial state and Hiro's pastMeans: Censoring thread subjectsThis is an impossible crime because the means are completely inefficient. It is way too easy to dodge subject blocks, it'd be just crazy to think Hiro really thinks he can stop us by censoring it like that.>>745124Then you have no case.
>>744977Hello hiro
>>745143Thank you, let's spread the truth, Hiro is a good admin
>>745143I don't need a fucking "case" you wannabe lawyer. All I need is to make up my mind on whether I believe in Hiro or not. I don't. Hence why I decided against buying a pass.The end.
>>745143>There is no wrongdoing in censoring content about him.>This is an impossible crime because the means are completely inefficientHe can't be obvious about it. are you retarded? you call yourself a law student?
>>745150That's quite irrelevant to Hiro. $15 can't keep the servers afloat mind you. The only one who loses it is you because you can't post without captcha, must endure longer cooldowns, can't post on /vip/ which will be the best 4chan board for the next few weeks or maybe months, not to mention you won't be able to use SJIS/monafont there which is very fun. You're missing on all that.
>>745154That's like saying if I point an unloaded gun at you and attempt to fire it, it is attempted homicide.
>warned hiro is a derailing shit poster>look back through this thread We where warned, since your here hiro make the pikari posted a janitor
>>745156You can post SJIS on /jp/ without buying 4chan gold, faggot.
>>745156>you can't post without captchaBig deal, less than 2 seconds>must endure longer cooldownsI don't spam, this is irrelevant to me>can't post on /vip/loltry harder you imbecile
>>745159Have fun doing that, it's a shit board. Much more fun at /vip/.
>>745156Fuck off, nobody cares that you need to pay for you law tuition by shilling for 4chan gold.
>All this damage controlThe japs were right
>>745160>less than 2 secondsFalse.>I don't spamHow is this relevant to lower cooldowns? Do you honestly think only spammers make more than one post per minute?>lolI know you want to post at /vip/.>you imbecileAt least be creative with your insults. Like this: You big bafoon imbecilic bafoon shitdosh!>>745162Education is free in my country, try again, American.
>>745166>falseHow is it false? Why would YOU know how long I need to type in 3 numbers or one word?Go kill yourself.
>You must disable ad blocking/allow ads from *.4chan.org/*, *.4chan-ads.org/*, and *.rubiconproject.com/* in order to view this page.
>>745168Because the captcha often shows more than one word, and they can be quite complex, even in other languages. You also said that you can't make more than one post per minute meaning you are a slow typer. It is also common for captcha to fail.You have lies, I have facts. You can't destroy me. Fear me.
>>745170You only have to type 1 word in you new fucking shitI'm done replying to you
>>745166>Education is free in my countryThat clarifies everything! You can come and mow my lawn when you graduate.
2 bombs wasn't enough
>>745172It is a natural reaction of human brain to run away when your integrity is in danger. Fight or flight mechanism.>>745174We likely live in different countries. But hey, I'll be visiting your country next January. It's for tourism though.
>>743318>http://www.freefixer.com/b/remove-pixel-rubiconproject-com-from-firefox-chrome-and-internet-explorer/Well, there my adblock turns back on
>>745161Hello Hiro
>>745179I am not Hiro but I know he was here.
>a lawfag is all it takes to BTFO everyone here
>>745185I'm in law school and i have no idea what's going on
>>745185To be fair it'd be a shame for a law student if they were unable to BTFO some basement dwellers and 4chan users, especially when it comes to a paranoia tinhat thread like this one. Wonder if people actually believe this conspiracy shit.
>>745192Why are you replying to your own post?
>>745195Nice try.
>>745195He needs to feel important! And he doesn't even have a 4chan pass... fucking pleb.
>>745118>law student forgets that he is in /qa/ and not in courtYour bullshit is only relevant when you are in court. That's da law, okay?
>>745174Wwwwwwwwwwww
does anyone still have the huge wall of text image detailing hiros misdeeds on 2ch?
>ctrl + f (You)>87 resultsAHAHAHAHANow your thread is closer to archiving. HAHA.
>>745200>shilling
>>745211So?
>>745204This one?
>>745215This will never be spoken about again.
>>745118>You can't judge someone for their past actionsAre you a gigantic retard? This is the defence in almost every sexual assault case. "Girl would sleep around a lot, she liked rough sex, et al"You can certainly use character sketches to persuade a jury for the accused too
>>745211We will keep making more HiroYou either go full censor mode or keep tryin to derail every thread we make for the rest of your days.
>>745212>Being poorDisgusting.
>>745218the one i was looking for was kind of done up with some webcomic-like images, but i think the text is the exact samethanks anon
>>745220And it's a shitty defense. Good luck convincing a jury by saying a girl liked rough sex therefore she can't be raped.
>>745219Really? You're so smart and I'm so dumb... I need to buy a 4chan pass to feel important!
>>745228Here's the funny thing, I don't have a pass.
>>745226>And it's a shitty defense.Literally every sexual assault case uses the girls sexual history in their defence. Holy fuck you're stupid.
>>745218>pass users had their name, address, credit card info leaked and you could tell who made which postReally? This looks false. Source?
>>745230Don't you have any sense of shame anon? Buy one and stop being a fucking parasite! Then you'll be able to post on >>>/vip/ !
>>745232When buying a pass you dont even need to put your name or address, only cc, expiry date and security code
>>745233I do plan to buy one.
>>745235Good!*rubs hands*
>>745232http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2013/09/17/digital/accidental-leak-ids-over-30000-anonymous-2channel-users/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/2ch_Chronicle/Deanonymization_Incident>inb4 those source doesn't count
>>745235Thank you gaijin
>>745157It could very well be if you thought it was loaded.
>>745243But you can't attempt to kill someone with an unloaded gun, it is not a crime at all.
>>745247No but it's still a violent crime though. If you rob a store with a fake gun you can be charged with armed robbery because you used intimidation
>>745241I see it is real, wonder if the same could happen here, I don't want my credit card info leaked
>>745241>>745218And moot sold 4chan to this guy. He truly hates us
>>745252Hold on. I am talking about homicide.While an unloaded gun consists of perfectly valid means to rob a store, since you can intimidate others with it, an unloaded gun is still not valid means for homicide, meaning you can't be charged with that crime. Similarly, you can't possibly charge Hiro of censoring people if he is using a completely inefficient mean such as prohibiting one word from thread subjects, assuming it is true.
>>745226This seems like a silly red herring, though. It's not a court of law and Hiro isn't on trial; he's running a website with disparate posters who mostly maintain anonymity and, to their own delight, fester in animus and occasional paranoia. Some of them feel jerked around by the non-responses to their concerns.Why did j-list stop advertising here?Are they gone for good this time?Why was there malvertizing starting roughly a year ago?What can he tell us about the needs of the site beyond vague statements about bandwidth, server requirements, and content delivery?Why, in his own words, will he not take donations?No, he's obviously not required to answer anything. But some nod to the fact that he even acknowledges them would go pretty far to assuage my, and I suspect many others, concerns.
I don't think he's ever going to publicly post here again desu
>>744038We need 2chs help and desperately if we want to save our site.
>>745259He doesn't need to, he has everything set up right now.
>/qa/ is red pilled to Hiro schemes>the rest of the site isn't.We should spread the word on Hiro.
>>744955Of course not. Swaglord was the closest mod to moot considering they were very close friends. Doesn't mean I forgive him for being a corrupt piece of shit
Fuck off 8gag.
>>745267/v/ seems like a good place, give its fast and unmoderated nature./a/ is cucked by mods and threads get deleted within 3 minutes.
>>745267Most people don't care. The only reaction you will get is people calling you paranoid /pol/fag or 8gag shill.
So what can be done to stop Hiro? Our only hope is to have either Mike Cernovich or Martin Shkreli buy the site
>>745280It's just the mods going full damage control
>>745259I have to agree
>>745271That's board raidinf anon
>>745285That's not what raiding means newfag
>>745267come to /int/
>>745282If you say so, but if you are going to try to spread the word then I wish you the best of luck.>>745281They can't buy it because Hiro don't want to sell it.
>>745218>this fucking image>honestly implying Jimbo had no clue what was going on and just suddenly rode in to save the dayGuy's just as much of a crook as Hiro, they were partners in crime. He even nicked 8gag off the cripple a while back and started dropping the banhammer on board owners
>>745336So Watkins finally kicked the cripplekike out? What happened to infinity never? I haven't visited 8gag in a while.
>>745281We don't even know that Hiro has done anything wrong with 4chan, or what's going on, which is why the concern.
>>745267Make a copy pasta to spread to all boards
>>745271/v/ is absolutely hopeless. You're likely to get "GRRRR, THIS SURE IS VIDYAGAEMS..." replies than informing the retards there.
>>745435Yeah but I manage to get 500 replies when /vip/ got created before it got deleted
>>745336This. Jimbo is just as crooked as Hiro is. He's just more subtle. Also 2ch actually hates Jimbo. They basically all referred to him as a pig.
>>745336Time to go full /pol/Jim is a Freemason
>>745431Yeah we should consolidate all the info we have on this. We should start by collecting all the info, pictures and links we can form posts like this.>>745015>>745071>>744934>>745218
>>745486Hiro is going to be fuming!
>>745486This. Get them all together. We have to stop him.
>>744038Not surprised.
>>745118Good thing we're in the court of public opinion here, where the burden of proof is MUCH lower and character references actually fucking mean something.You know as well as I do that Hiro has faced numerous lawsuits back in grorious nippon and hasn't followed through on paying them before. You know what that sounds like to me? It sounds like he's a man who doesn't mind skirting around the law or even flat out ignoring it when it suits his purposes. Could he have changed? Of course. Do you honestly expect him to have done so? You'd be stupid if you thought so.
>>745793Libel suits are just a tool for censorship. If Hiro got sued by Hillary for letting pepes in his site, I wouldn't want him to pay up a single cent either.
>>743238>free lunchthere's no such thing
>>744709My ISP has been banned for a long time. Whatever's the case I love Hiro for revoking it.
>>744961>if he fucks up 4chan then he won't get that much money I think. I wish the higher ranked mods would step in or something like that. I really don't like the direction this is going.I'm really curious as to what is going on behind the scenes. If shit really hits the fan hopefully we'll see some interesting leaks.