Subreddit reopening

BaRKy1911 · 1時間前

A new mod team is being put together. Hopefully we can put this place back together in one piece.

Sojourner_Truth · 7時間前

Oh man just when I thought this game couldn't offer any ~~more~~ entertainment...

balazamon0 · 5時間前

Thanks for reopening the sub, it's how I follow the modding community and any spotting of communications from hello games.

Manolo_Ribera · 6時間前

He's been an enormous help and I appreciate him working with us during a difficult time. He's going to take a break and has handed the reins over to me to get the subreddit restarted

This kinda reminds me of how when in a movie a president has been forced to step down because of something illegal, but in order to spare the nation the shame he is just "taking a break" while someone else takes over :-D

Listening_Heads · 7時間前

It would be a shame if this sub was turned into a heavily censored fairytale land of screen shots and DAE <3 Sean Murray. This is the sub of a massively flawed, highly controversial game that sold millions of copies. The devs have yet to comment on said flaws and this sub is the best place to stay abreast of the situation. It isn't just a hate filled cesspool. Professional game reviewers overwhelmingly agree there are major problems with the game and they reference this sub at times (the ASA thread in particular). I truly hope that the sub will remain open to posts addressing the problems of the game and language that is critical of HG and Sean Murray.

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joejoejoey04 · 6時間前

Is it the right thing to do to be inviting the original mod team back to moderate? We have all seen the discord screenshots and the completely nonchalant attitude they showed to the sub being closed.

Pelagiad · 7時間前

While I am relieved to see things back to their natural state, I'm extremely disappointed in what /u/r0ugew0lf did. That was not appropriately handled and immature, I'm happy to move on and continue using the sub-reddit as normal but I would not be comfortable with him taking part of an authoritative role in this community again. What has transpired and his behaviour afterwards has lost any respect I had for him.

You ask me to leave my frustration at the door, yet you compliment the man who is solely to blame and selfishly tried to completely take away a community of 150,000 strong that has had countless hours poured into it by the members who make it up, mind you without any warnings or discussion. This community is bigger than just him and he is to blame for his actions.

Blazur · 5時間前

Hi /u/Sporkicide, I remember you from when you had to intervene with the Star Wars Battlefront Reddit drama. And now here you are responding to drama about No Man's Sky, haha. Anyways...thanks for restoring this community.

swatop · 6時間前

How are we supposed to leave the frustration at the door? That frustration is part of the game.

The by far biggest part of the players and community members of the old subreddit belong to the frustrated ones. Do you think that simply stops just because of a new subreddit?

It wont.

The frustration exists for a reason. The source of the frustration is the lack of communication, the lack of support, the lack of honesty, the lack of promised content and features. Thats the source of the frustration and it wont go away.

Or do you expect this subreddit turn into a pink shiny world for the fanboys which spam us with weird screenshots everyday?

The game has a very negative background (fraud, lies, refunds, false advertisement ASA investigations, etc.) so you also should expect that negative discussions evolve around here.

Next to that is it good to have the negative discussions about the game so players can also see what the faked promotion stuff and ads are not showing before they make the decision to buy the game. If you decide to turn this subreddit into a one-sided "lets praise NMS" page then you are walking on a fine line to doing false advertising here aswell.

The game is what it is... mostly negative.

Poulpc · 6時間前

He's going to take a break

so he will be put back in charge at some point ??

ricardogce · 3時間前

The subreddit got a massive overhaul before the game did. Step it up, HG.

Sporkicide · 1時間前

Please stand by. A fresh mod team is currently being assembled.

BurlyusMaximus · 6時間前

Just throwing my own opinion out there.

Don't shut the sub down because of the negative atmosphere, most of us all payed for and played this game. We are the games community.

Constructive criticism (sometimes destructive) is helpful to those in power, don't shut the door on all of us. Address the issue and find means of resolution.

Don't stalk the forum, talk and communicate, perhaps then we can find a happy medium.

ndguardian · 5時間前

Wait, did I miss something? What happened?

morboislegend · 6時間前

/u/Sporkicide - thanks for stepping in and getting this sorted out.

bastiVS · 7時間前

The old mods?

Yea, no. They fucked it up in the first place.

nipsen · 7時間前

I've extended invitations to some of the previous moderators to get things started and will likely be needing some additional help.

This subreddit had mods?

Anyway - I think you guys are still fatally misunderstanding what a moderator on a subreddit is supposed to be doing. Such as encouraging some form of open exchange, within a framework where that is actually happening.

Rather than either allow a few specific posters and particular types of lazy posting to dominate everything from the stickies to the hidden threads at the bottom of the last page, etc. Or go the opposite way where mods participate personally in censorship.

It seems none of you are actually capable of finding anything in between those two extremes. And don't seem to be creative enough to come up with ways to encourage that. Or to really understand the concept either, when it comes to that.

So have fun balancing in the middle of "Sean is Satan" and "Sony bless us with more fantastic games", etc., until you get tired of doing that.

dodado1 · 7時間前

r0ugewolf took away my admin rank :(

ffxivfunk · 5時間前

"Please don't discuss the most prominent issues surrounding the game and subreddit on the subreddit dedicated to said game"

As a former forum mod, you're doing it wrong. Having a dedicated thread and asking people to limit it works far better.

Parabellum8g · 3時間前

Reddit itself did well by intervening in what happened here. Moderators do not own the communities they moderate, and as such their rights are limited as well. What we saw here was a moderator that decided he was 'the community' and proceeded to shutting down an entire community. The fact that Reddit intervened is a very welcome response on a site that is plagued by moderator power abuse, so well done. This was the right course of action.

LlorchDurden · 6時間前

A community is defined by its members. There are 150K subscribers (almost). A decent amount of these are upset with the game they got , so that's the content about the game they are sharing.

Close it again if you are not going to allow that kind of content.

redn2000 · 7時間前

If there's no frustrations to be had here, would you open a side subresdit to discuss the negative goings on of the game/Hello Games? People (including myself) have good reason to be frustrated, and though I agree that outright hate posts are unnecessary, I also don't think removing the criticism will help the situation.

flagged4 · 5時間前

if you reinstate these mods you will be making the dumbest decision possible, listen to them

Artie-Choke · 7時間前

I've been very critical of NMS and particularly Sean Murray, but I've never started a hate thread (or any other that I can recall) and I try to only respond to extreme 'fanboy'... mis-statements of known fact.

Camps on both extremes, though, would do well to just take a deep breath and carry on with the NMS we have.

Smoke-away · 5時間前

Glad to see the admins step up and save a subreddit. Regardless of what anyone thinks of the sub its good they didn't just let it die.

Hopefully admins can implement changes to prevent rogue creators of large subreddits from doing similar things in the future.

Thanks.

timmaeus · 6時間前

This subreddit right now

colonial113 · 6時間前

The sub is reborn, I would suggest someone with great design skills to make a new sub header/design to reflect the changes. This one was supposedly done by r0gue - he might want to "get it back".

gronbek · 6時間前

Thanks. I think criticism is fine as long as its presented in a civilized manner. And a positive post now and then does no harm no matter how bad things are :)

JohnSchoonsBeard · 8時間前

Glad we're back online.

Spongen00b · 7時間前

How will you deal with critic posts? Will you ban and delete every thread that has critics?

M4karov · 7時間前

At the core of things, this is a subreddit and a community centered around No Man's Sky.

A nice thought and my hope for this place in the future would be more centered on No Man's Sky the game itself.

milesprower06 · 6時間前

Glad we're back online. I was off playing other games, so I missed this place getting shut down (found out about it on GameSpot).

The fact that ONE person can shut down a subreddit with 146k subscribers is somewhat disturbing. One person should not be able to shutter a community like that, no matter WHAT jokes and memes and criticisms they make, or how much he disagrees with it.

Savv3 · 5時間前

Good, the closing down of a subreddit because of 1 person is not acceptable really, is it? While at it, you might wanna bring this topic up at the office, to improve the situations. As it is right now, subreddit mods can range from lovely volunteers to crazy shitheads to corrupt and cunning. I think everyone would prefer them to be accountable and their actions and decisions based on rules and publicly viewable. So, if a mod goes rogue we can see it, and definitely take away the right to close a sub if it reaches a certain threshold of visitors and have limitations in overtaking another sub, like it has happened before.

die_caesar · 4時間前

I really enjoy this sub, never going to buy the game but I like looking at the screenshots.

Also my dream is to make a universe/planet explorer game some day, and this sub is good for pointing out flaws and what works.

Lovelandmonkey · 4時間前

The game that keeps on giving.

Machismo01 · 4時間前

Sounds good. Glad to see it reopen. Yes, we are all disappointed in the game. Sure, it should have been better, but it is still impressive experience. I hope it becomes a better game.

I was worried that the subreddit just was ground down by the disappointment and the relatively static meme of what NMS is. Honestly, the subreddit has been (and probably still is) a very negative experience. There are bad things about the game, but no one wants to be involved in something like this subreddit for very long. No one WANTS a negative experience like this.

sw_faulty · 3時間前

At the core of things, this is a subreddit and a community centered around No Man's Sky. I'm asking everyone here to participate in good faith and leave any frustration with the recent situation at the door.

What recent situation?

Devilsmirk · 3時間前

The old mods should stay the old mods and not be allowed to moderate this sub. The ultimate problem here is THEY decided this sub was too salty/critical/whatever and THEY decided it wasn't good. Last I checked this sub has a lot of subscribers and doing this without some sort of conversation with the community reeks of tone deafness. Maybe, just maybe the community likes this sub salty...maybe they should make a dedicated thread for criticisms of the game? Or how about a "complain about the game Wednesday?" To just arbitrarily shut down a sub because THEY don't like it is censorship. Discourse is the open forum of ideas and expressions and deciding upon yourselves (the mods) what is/is not worthy without community input is nothing but a decision fueled by hubris. Maybe this is a game that everyone loves to hate? THEY should not be the arbiters of what this sub SHOULD be, mods are supposed to keep things concise, on topic, and add a certain level of civility to the discourse. (I.E. stopping the conversation from a rant of name calling for example) its shameful that this sub joins the ranks of the many other subs on Reddit that completely violate the principle of Reddit, an open forum of discourse. Discourse sometimes isn't pretty, that's the nature of the beast, and when you examine the situation around this particular game, reason stands to follow that it's going to be especially not pretty considering the silence the paying customers of the game get from the developers. Being a mod isn't about "playing god". Decisions need to be made WITH community input. Let's find some people who have the community's best interests at heart, who realize this game is divisive, and have ideas to make the sub better, that can be discussed with the community before action is taken. That's my 2 cents.

noblackthunder · 3時間前

I am happy that the old mods have been removed .. and its sad what happent. i know there has been lots of negative feedback for nms .. and those have a good reason for being there too. Though i think its important to have this forum open for both positive and negative feedback where people can meet and talk. I feeld that earlier any negative comment was hit down on even though it was a mature critic given. I hope with the changes that happens now that this will change and we can have a place where everyone can meet and talk together without getting censored or having trolls taking over like on the steam forums. And i still think we need to fight for player rights here since NMS has gone over the line with promisses not delivered and the worst of all the devs going just silent ( yes going silent is even worse than missing features .. because if they would have sayd sorry and done a solid plan on how to fix the game and make it at least better and interesting then there would have been no issue at all for me an most other people unhappy ) Thats why i feel we need a place like this so that everyone can join in and raise there voice as a strong groupe than lots of small groups that get overseen

SirSmashySmashy · 2時間前

Thanks for the help, I don't envy you your task.

Chin up, I'm sure things will die down, though I thought they would've by month 2 after launch...

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westendgonzo · 1時間前

Anyone else enjoying the delicious irony of someone shutting down the subreddit due to negativity only to have it reopened opening a deluge of negativity albeit on a completely different subject?

par_kiet · 52分前

well.. good luck, godspeed !

bnuuug · 6時間前

Tbh I've been posting in this subreddit hundreds of times per day for the last 7-8 years and I'm not sure what the big deal is

shock-wave- · 6時間前

It just keeps coming, doesn't it?

I'm surprised though to be honest- I reported the forum and old founder Bbit ages ago after the initial leak (and mods here deleting threads and running to Murray's Twitter), but after he disappeared it seemed things were chugging along.

Guess not. Sporkicide, you're a top admin, keep up the good work.

wgeist1 · 3時間前

It's funny how everyone bashes this game so hard and when the guy in charge had his full of it all, everyone goes crazy because a sub about a game they don't like closes.

Warrior666 · 6時間前

Thanks for re-opening. This sub is my main source for anything related to NMS. I have not played the game in several weeks now, but I am still hoping for additional content and improvements.

The game is not as fantastic as I had hoped it would be, but it still is very lovable in its own way.

While I am critical of NMS, HG and SM, I absolutely don't hate them. Believe it nor not, I even feel sorry for them. Something went wrong along the way, and I'm pretty sure that is not what they had anticipated.

bobbothegobbo · 4時間前

The pettiness of some people on this sub has provided me more entertainment than the game itself did.

Soulcrifice · 2時間前

I just have to say I feel bad for the very kind person who's taking over this sub and helping it get back on its feet. I know you're an admin, so doing this kind of thing is sort of your job, but still, the amount of things you have to sort through... it's just insane.

I also wanna give ya props for your time on something you may have no personal investment in. I think this sub's content is a lot of people venting their frustrations with the game. I think there are some who still don't want to accept what NMS truly is, and that causes strife when they see criticism. It all, is apart of how I think everyone is venting this situation. Obviously the sub could stand to have some better moderation, and one that doesn't make such big decisions so lightly.

I can understand the concept of respecting someone for what they did do despite what they didn't do right, and I think that's a healthy way of looking at it. I'm sure for him moderating this sub and handling the negativity on a daily basis probably took a toll on him. I don't think that justifies making the decision he did, but it helps me understand why he made that decision.

I hope this sheds some light on the flaws with the system in place; having one person with all the power over such a large community isn't a good idea.

Edit: fixing autocorrect..

Edit 2: Wow, thank you for the gold!

wazbat · 7時間前

I wonder how this will pan out. The subreddit didnt really seem to get that bad, but it just became main place, well, the only place where people could vent frustration. Combine that with a massive circlejerk and people from outside joining in and it ended up being rather negative. This made the community think it was split both ways, "fanboys" and "haters". Which made the more moderate people post less and less.

JoshOliday · 5時間前

Thanks for all your help in this. I had no clue it was going on honestly. I don't visit much anymore, but I'm still subscribed for when this becomes a constructive community again...if ever.

Now, I'm sure you're not stupid and have already figured this out, but just in case any of it helps, everyone needs to understand that this will not get fixed. The frustrations from this sub stem from perceived slights concerning Hello Games and the game itself. Unfortunately, the company is not responding to anything, criticism or otherwise. So people are left to stew in their own anger. This becomes memes, which becomes shitposts, which becomes threats and condescending remarks to the mods. I completely understand the former mod's reasoning for shutting down the sub, even if I don't agree with it or support it. If the community keeps on the path it's on, it's just going to become a pockmark on the whole site.

I don't really see any of this getting fixed until Hello Games starts communicating again about the directions their taking as a company for their game. Again, I appreciate the work you are putting in and everything, but it's going to be difficult to get anything on track until certain things happen. Good luck, and I look forward to seeing this sub get fixed.

lonixloxie · 6時間前

To be frank, I don't know how anyone can complain about the mods. The games problems exist and again frankly we all know what they are.

I've been peeking every now and then in this place and it's good to see the majority of posts being positive.

Personally it doesn't bother me if people come here to vent towards the game. That's forums/social media.

Directly criticising the mods though doesn't do anything.

Personally I wouldn't worry about modding. If people want to whine, let them.

tookiselite12 · 7時間前

Hypothetically, if someone came to this subreddit and wanted to shitpost while you are the only mod, is the beatdown going to be admin-style or will you be gentle and do it mod-style?

a_mor · 6時間前

perhaps a "lets all hate Sean Murry" sub could be created

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reddituser165 · 4時間前

The shadiest game experience ever. Every facet of this game is fishy. From the subreddit to the actual game. What a disaster

StachTBO · 2時間前

Mods are a disaster, just like the game

Ninjajuicer · 7時間前

I like pie. The cream kind, not the fruit. Although I'm pretty sure rhubarb is a vegetable, and shoefly is a sugar.

AndreScreamin · 6時間前

While I'm really bothered by this sub's toxicity and considering not coming back anymore (but the threads about player stories keeps pulling me back), I disagree with nuking the sub.

But yeah, I bet things have been rought for the mod/admin team lately. Anyway, glad to see the sub got back online so quickly, and I hope /u/r0ugew0lf enjoys a nice break and start feeling better as soon as he can :)

jomontage · 4時間前

Man this popcorn is good

ikilledtupac · 2時間前

No Man's Poison

they did the same shit in the Steam forums, purged everything negative, then a Steam admin over rode everything too. Hello Games is shady as hell.

not_a_throwaway23 · 6時間前

I understand the frustration of people who'd like to see more positive discussion. But here's why that's not going to happen:

http://steamcharts.com/app/275850

Players who consider themselves burned outnumber active players by 16 to 1. A $60 game that loses 90% of its player base in one month might be a new record, I couldn't find another similar example.

OnePonders · 6時間前

So the admins are breaking their own rules again and taking over subreddits.

devinup · 7時間前

I guess quite a bit happened while I was asleep. Heh.

TidusJames · 7時間前

? did I miss something???

Sporkicide · 6時間前

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