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MGTOW are fucking hypocrites when they blame women for dating rich and powerful men: (self.MGTOW)

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Attractive girls/women crave men with power: Famous fighters, famous athletes, muscular strong men, CEOs & businessmen, famous musicians & singers, famous comedians, famous actors, bad boys, Firefighters & police officers.

Men/males typically crave women based on looks & beauty: Supermodels, playboy models, beautiful singers, porn stars, attractive weather girls, and attractive dancers.

That’s because power indicates testosterone levels and healthy development. Testosterone is an indicator of ambition, status-seeking, fertility/sperm count, and testicular health. You also had to generally have a healthy physical & mental development in order to attain any positions of power which suggests good genes and good gene health. Men with power also have higher access to resources such as money, food, & protection, & therefore have better provision ability than other guys.

Looks & beauty in women indicates estrogen levels and proportionately larger wombs (curvier hips and narrow waist). Estrogen indicates fertility & healthy menstrual cycle or ability to produce healthy eggs in a stable monthly cycle & availability of such eggs. Proportionately larger wombs indicate extra space to grow larger babies. Estrogen is also a protective hormone that protects women’s reproductive system from stress and therefore leads to healthy fetal development of offspring. Pretty facial features also indicates sensitivity and skills to nurture infants.

These are evolved instincts. Stop blaming women for who they are attracted to or if they like a guy because of the money and security he provides.

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[–]project_mayhem_ 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

We don't blame them. We just don't clean up the mess when her plan to trap a rockstar by getting pregnant with his baby blows up in her face. They can do whatever the fuck they like. We're not concerned about it.

[–]2045_revolution 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pretty much. I understand sexual strategy, but that doesn't mean I like it. More importantly, I have no desire to clean up a woman's mess of her life when she is in her 30s (which is what most women who try to snag a guy out of their league end up with: hurt feelings, kids and a giant mess).

[–]project_mayhem_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

women chasing alpha cock all say they want to get married eventually. and when their time starts to run out, and they start considering a guy in her own league, she's still got in her mind somewhere that she should be married to a super alpha. so when she divorces her beta husband, it's still all part of the absurd plan to somehow eventually land the rockstar she feels she is entitled to.

[–]ShacklesBegone 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's funny, you head these drive-by comments and they never bother to respond. Obviously not looking to learn a damn thing. Zero fucks given.

[–]project_mayhem_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

this one seems to have only heard of MGTOW about thirty seconds before writing this post, and having not derived any information about MGTOW from any actual MGTOW.

the result is similar to a joke where u/feministaquestioner says, "knock knock" and I say, "come in, it's open".

[–]exit-stage-right2 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

How does it make us hypocrites. We acknowledge that women are attracted to success, money and fame. The hate you are pointing at actually stems from our hatred of society, because society enables, encourages and rewards women for acting without logic, practical reasoning or accountability. If a man acts without these factors he is punished. That's where the hate comes in. Men are fucked in society, so we stay out as much as possible. That's all there is to it.

[–]mgtowBurnerAccount 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not blaming them at all. It's just not for me, so I'm taking my toys and going home. I consider these instincts devolved and reptilian.

[–]Tyler_Gatsby 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think it's the them getting/dating rich and powerful men(there aren't that many of those) that bothers most of us so. I think it's more the blatant lack of loyalty and respect to us in general- even to the Brad Pitts and the Johnny Depps of the world. Those guys just make the truth hit more home by showing us we'll lose on any level. There is no guaranteed win level- of playing.

[–]Helikzhan 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Enough with this baloney about sexual arousal and fertility appearance. Genetic determinism is BULLSHIT.

Women chase wealthy men / athletes because they want power. They take the dick because it comes with the package. They'll even have your kid, too. But ultimately they want to govern your wallet, your home and your life. Any wonder why so many women chase athletes? They see a quickly rich man that is likely uneducated that they can take advantage of. A man they can control. That's all it really is.

You should know this as a woman. How you were raised is a key indicator.

[–]always_a_choice 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Brilliant narrative. CLAPS. This is how they insinuate traditionalism of the past into the cusps of modern equality.

So that men don't leave the plantation.

[–]feedmecarrots 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

Hypergamy can't be defended in light of the Pareto Principle. If twenty percent of the men are getting eighty percent of the women, what will the remaining eighty percent of men do? We used to have assortive mating and that allowed, for the most part, every man his own woman and every woman her own man. Now, women have to share top tier men while the bulk of men go without. Thanks, feminism.

[–]2045_revolution 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

You probably need monogamy to keep a society functioning. One where most men are locked out of the mating market is one where men will become unstable. Plus men locked out will devote their energies to trying to become one of the top 20% of men (which is a losing proposition, since no matter how much you improve, only 20% of men can be in the top 20%), energies that in other cultures they would devote to supporting a family.

I don't think feminism and the sexual revolution will destroy society. But it created a ton of misery. Lots of men feel left out, lots of women feel unfulfilled because these women want committment from elite men, who have 0 incentive to provide it.

[–]feedmecarrots 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think that monogamy would be the better way for a society to go. the greater the number of men with families the deeper the future orientation and effort applied to see it better. Polygamy can work but is ideal only when thee are insufficient men.

[–]2045_revolution 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup. Society is better off when men invest their time, money and energy into raising children than a society where they invest time, money and energy in trying to be the most attractive 5% of men so they can get laid in nightclubs.

[–]feedmecarrots -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would be antisocial, wouldn't it?

[–]feministaquestioner[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Actually most marriages these days are assortative mating in colleges, workplaces and friends hooking other friends up. (go google). Contrary to your worldview, hypergamy was the common marriage process in most historical societies and still is in the third world. Assortative mating is the most common form of marriage in the first. I'm guessing you never went to college, don't work at a place with lot of attractive and intelligent women, and don't have a set of friend who can hook you up with a spouse.

[–]Saintmyname 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Assertive mating does not preclude hypergamy.

[–]oldredder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

hypergamy means dumping current spouse for a better one - that's not how things were before.

[–]boilingpoint84 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yep and at the moment the assortative mating advantages women over men simply because men are still held to traditional standards and women aren't.

[–]feedmecarrots 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Assortive mating is dead and feminism killed it. What you consider assortive mating is, in fact, women choosing using the tournament social model, in other words, unrestrained hypergamy. This will continue until the the markeplace seizes like an engine without oil. We're not far off.

[–]knucklehead1177 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol how snippy. You go girl.

[–]2045_revolution 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ok. Are you willing to stop blaming 65 year old men who want to fuck 16 year old girls? Because that is an evolved instinct too.

[–]Saintmyname 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah. And while we're at it, if we're gonna go with pure biology then nothing men or women do is wrong.

[–]baptized-in-flames 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here's the thing. Most women don't have to do shit except maybe workout for 20 minutes 3 times a week to maintain a decent body. Being born pretty is easy. Most men, on the other hand, have to work for it. For the majority, wealth isn't just handed to them. Men work from the bottom up. You see the difference? You really can't compare these two things, because the traits you describe for women are things they can naturally have, whereas wealth is earned through hard work.

[–]StupidYoure 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you, Madam Obvious...you may now take your stupid enlightened self, elsewhere

[–]yourmommysnightmare 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

replied to me by PM? no reply here?

from feministaquestioner sent 2 hours ago Majority of men and women do not get married vs OKcupid and Tinder you dipshit. That's like a 10 percent minority. Tinder women are dominant women who can't get laid, it's that simple.

dipshit huh? .... the mating strategies from Tinder and OKCupid are matched 100% by the newpaper ad pages from way back and 100% matched by DNA studies of humans during hunter gatherer periods

They're matched 100% by the numbers produced by primatologists studying primates.

Dipshit .... yeah

Majority of men and women do not get married vs OKcupid and Tinder you dipshit. That's like a 10 percent minority. Tinder women are dominant women who can't get laid, it's that simple.

LOL ... humans are human on one platform and NOT HUMAN on another platform

Can't wait to read what other excuses to come up with to hide from the truth - probably you'll just end up denying all the studies and their concordance entirely

[–]mgtowguynow 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey princess, do me a favor and fucking cry more.

Sure, women crave it, that much is obvious. Just like I crave a bitch with a big ass and nice tits. "Evolved instincts," as you said.

But hey, at least you're an honest parasite. Now fuck off with your appeal to nature.

[–]Brokemgtow 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mgtows dont blame women for these things, we share this knowledge with other men. We dont care what women do, but talk about what they do. Women are highly regarded as the loyal, caring, nurturing gender. Therefore, men must understand how women calculate whom they deem acceptable for a romatic relationship.

Another point, being born biologically "lucky" or so, requires no effort in the part of women. While being successful and disciplined takes years to master in the part of men, is this a journey a man is willing to endure just to have female validation? That is something men will have to decide.

[–]Happen_On_A_Ciggy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL!!.. wtf is she talking about??..LOL!!.. bitch just had a brain aneurysm.. lmao!... hold on bitch!!.. i ain't a doctor yet!! Lmao!

[–]CaptainStardust 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Actually, this is bullshit. Women care more about looks than men, and that is all they really care about. When a woman sees a good looking man, she feels that he is successful and confident just because he makes her tingle, it's not the other way around. How could it be if women decide whether or not they would sleep with someone in under a minute? You can't tell anything in that time, except for looks. If a guy without looks is successful and confident, women will be disgusted, which is why PUA is such a joke. Most men still don't understand this, but it is obvious.

[–]Kornstar04 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women can do what they want, I don't care. I laugh when things blow up in their face but I'm not there to help.

[–]Thinkpadoutlaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never walk them to the bathroom and wash their face after blowing up in their face

[–]Bikemarrow 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

MGTOWs dont "blame" them.

We choose not to be their Plan: B when those guys dump their wall-hitting asses for a younger model.

So are you on the other side of that wall?

[–]Knxguymgy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ill blame whoever i damn well.please, cunt

[–]lostapwbm 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Attractive girls/women crave men with power: Famous fighters, famous athletes, muscular strong men, CEOs & businessmen, famous musicians & singers, famous comedians, famous actors, bad boys, Firefighters & police officers.

Women are attracted to status. Bill Clinton never pulled bitches on his good looks. So far, so good.

Men/males typically crave women based on looks & beauty: Supermodels, playboy models, beautiful singers, porn stars, attractive weather girls, and attractive dancers.

Men are attracted to aesthetics. Going strong here.

That’s because power indicates testosterone levels and healthy development.

Huh?

Testosterone is an indicator of ambition, status-seeking, fertility/sperm count, and testicular health.

What?

You also had to generally have a healthy physical & mental development in order to attain any positions of power which suggests good genes and good gene health.

Ummmm....no. There are a lot of shot-callers in the business/political sphere who are not the most hearty physical specimens.

Just look at George Soros, the Dark Lord of the Sith. Or Bill Gates and his rather squishy-looking, low-T appearance.

Men with power also have higher access to resources such as money, food, & protection, & therefore have better provision ability than other guys.

Okay, you're swerving back into safe territory.

Estrogen is also a protective hormone that protects women’s reproductive system from stress and therefore leads to healthy fetal development of offspring. Pretty facial features also indicates sensitivity and skills to nurture infants.

Yeah...no, all of those DES babies (now adults) might disagree about the wonders of prenatal estrogen exposure.

These are evolved instincts.

Evo psych. It's like phrenology without the overt racism or skull measuring.

Stop blaming women for who they are attracted to or if they like a guy because of the money and security he provides.

AWALT is not about blame. I'm just acknowledging your argument in a more concise form: Women are generally pragmatic and amoral.

[–]yourmommysnightmare 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

you flunked out of MGTOW remedial studies, not even MGTOW 101 ... read the OKCupid and Tinder studies & realize how full of shit you are.

But you won't - your mind's completely closed

[–]byebyehillary 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Chase whomever you want. Just don't come crying to us when he breaks your heart. In fact, don't come to us at all. Our money and resources are OUR money and resources, not yours.

[–]587Boat 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you have a mistaken premise. I for one don't blame women for anything; I just want nothing to do with them.

Men and women clearly have different objectives, and as long as they cause me no harm I don't care what they want. Frankly I think many if not most of us here feel more or less the same way. We decry the way they behave, but our griping falls into the same category as rain on game day. We don't like being rained out, but there's nothing we can do about it so we shrug and find something else to do.

[–]Charles_Offdensen 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Women rate 80% of men as unattractive. They rate your avg guy as around a 1.5 out of 10 based solely on appearance. Men rate your avg woman as a 5 out of 10. Men are much more fair when they look at women. Women only find 20% of men as above a 5 where as men find 50% of women above 5.

[–]byers18901 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is this based on an actual study by chance? If so do you happen to have a link or at least the name of the study?

[–]illegal_toothpaste 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

so much awareness and indifference on this thread. good stuff.

[–]boilingpoint84 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't blame women although women seem to like to live in a world of perpetual childhood. Seriously though, women are attractive for what they're born with while men are attractive for what they finally achieve after years of long hard work... which one would you rather be?