I reject the bullshit associated with those. I won't go out of my way to chat girls up, I refuse to try to impress them or shower with attention. If a girl doesn't show interest in me, I don't show interest in her. As we all know, if a guy doesn't make all the effort nothing is going to happen. Being naturally quiet and reserved doesn't help neither, so here I am. On rare occasions when I do go out, I refuse to buy gifts or pay for everything. I see my time, money, opinions just as valuable as hers. I don't try to bed women the first chance I get, and if a woman tries to use it as some kind of 'reward' I back out because that insults my own sexual value. She needs to prove herself not to be crazy for me to sleep with her, because sticking dick in crazy is really asking for trouble. Although I am physically fit, relatively good looking and doing well financially, I haven't had action in years . And that's ok. It's either going to be on my terms or not at all. But I aslo want to be fair and give benefit of the doubt to women. If a sane one comes along, I am open to date her. No marrage or kids ofcourse. Anyways, I don't know if that makes me a MGTOW, incel,foreveralone or something in-between.